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For a frontline Scots soldier the difference between life and death is only a whisker



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Published Date: 05 July 2008
PRIVATE David Poderis was lying flat on the roof of a small brick building when the jolt to his helmet came.

"I felt my head jarring, and the bracket that held my night-sight swung down in front of my face," says the 37-year-old Territorial Army soldier from Wishaw.

"I knew I had been hit but I thought it had ricocheted off."

But not until the following morning, when he staggered exhausted with the rest of the men of 5 Scots Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders D Company, through the gates of Musa Qala district centre, the small compound just outside the Helmand town of Musa Qala that was retaken from the Taleban by British and Afghan forces in December last year, did he realise how close to death he had been.

The bullet hadn't just ricocheted off, it had gone clean through his helmet, entering just above his forehead, ripping through the helmet's lining and exiting on the other side.

Pte Poderis was unscathed.

A few hours later, after a debrief, a shower and some much-needed sleep, he sits in D company's camp, the helmet in front of him, and talks calmly about what happened.

"It's a sobering thought how near it was," he says. "The lads have been telling me how lucky I was. I guess the Gods were on my side that day."

Then, in typical soldier fashion, he adds: "I'm just pleased we got the job done and dusted."

He says that when the shot came, he went on autopilot.

"My training just kicked in. You keep going because there's nothing else you can do."

Indeed, after a few moments, he returned fire, and stopped to consider the fatal implications of the shot only when he returned to base.

"I hope it won't affect how I feel about going out again," he says. "It can't really; you've just got to get on with the job."

The 48-hour patrol involved, says the company's sergeant-major, Alan Goodall, 33, from Helensburgh, the fiercest fighting the company has seen during the month they have been stationed here.

"I really thought we were going to get hit out there," he says, shaking his head in disbelief. "I couldn't believe there were no casualties."

Sergeant Kevin Ledwidge, 30, from Falkirk, who was also out on patrol with D Company, says: "The Taleban are fighting really professionally at the moment."

The patrol, whose object was to "disrupt the enemy" in the desert a few kilometres outside Musa Qala, had three separate contacts with the Taleban. In the first they came under sustained fire as the insurgents used mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and small arms.

After returning fire they moved on, taking over a small compound of houses.

That evening they were attacked again, and Apache helicopters were brought in. The Taleban fighters came back a third time, and were eventually pushed back. Radio surveillance suggested they had suffered casualties.

"There was a real sense of relief when we got back in," says Sergeant-Major Goodall. "We were all exhausted but relieved to be back in one piece."

The attack comes after the worst month of fatalities for coalition troops in Afghanistan since the conflict started in 2001, and suggests that although the Taleban recently appear to have undergone a change in strategy, using roadside bombs and suicide bombs, they are still engaging in more traditional fighting methods.

For Pte Poderis, a truck driver in civilian life who joined the TA 21 years ago, there is a question of whether fate intervened. He later phoned his parents to tell them what had happened and was gobsmacked when they told him other members of his TA battalion, currently on a mini tour of the Isle of Barra, had, on a whim, popped into the local church the previous day, told the minister one of their men was in Afghanistan and asked him to say a prayer for him.

Pte Poderis, who is unmarried, is on his second tour of Afghanistan, and was first deployed here in 2002.

"There are a lot of changes since I was last here," he says.

"I was in Kabul and people were very friendly then.

"Here, in some of the outlying villages in Helmand, they just stare at you. It's more hostile."

Miracle material that saves troops' lives

PRIVATE David Poderis's helmet will now be sent back to the UK for extensive military testing before being put on display at the TA centre in Dumbarton.

This particular incident proves the Kevlar helmet is effective, and specialist teams will want to know why.

The helmet acquired its name because the shell is made from 19 layers of Kevlar, a ballistic fabric treated with a phenolic resin system first commercially used in the early 1970s as a replacement for steel in racing tyres.

The fabric has been regarded as one of the most significant achievements in the development of body armour.

It was tested in four phases over several years. The programme included tests to see whether it could stop a lead bullet.

In the last phase of testing, the material was improved to ensure its final form was waterproof and sunlight-proof. It had been found to allow bullets through after exposure to rain and UV light.


The full article contains 895 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 05 July 2008 12:42 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 05/07/2008 06:43:00
It is a concern if rain and UV light cause a breakdown of the armour property of the helmet. I still have my Vietnam era yankee P@#$ pot steel helmet. I only wore a helmet and body armour once while on an escort with the Big Red One when I did feel like a target. We generally never wore it. It weighed a ton and was to hot. We did know it worked when needed. Kevlar is lighter but would be giving a false sense of securety if it breaks down as stated.
2

Gulfstream Flier,

Mid-Atlantic 05/07/2008 09:41:14
FYI - Emma, it pays to check your copy before sending the story. I believe you meant to use the word defective regarding the soldier's helmet. What a difference a "D" makes. Sadly many newspaper companies seem to have lost interest in proof-reading copy and just throw it out there.
3

cabrach loon,

inverness 05/07/2008 09:58:51
#3 wholly agree the helmet seems wholly defective and a real worry to anyone weating one!
4

Douglas,

Bathgate 05/07/2008 10:26:02
Where's the blog?
5

Pip10,

05/07/2008 11:19:34
I didn't think the helmets were actually designed to stop bullets, I always thought it was for shrapnel. The Kevlar helmets are 100 times better than the old steel ones we had up until the mid 90's which just wobbled on your head when you ran, gave you neck ache and you couldn't work on equipment wearing them. The Kevlar one's are pretty easy to wear whilst doing most jobs.
6

Gunn,

05/07/2008 11:56:47
This is reminiscent of the metal cigarette lighter/case in the pocket stories from WW1. I had a friend at school whose granddad had been a soldier WW1 and, being right handed, he always kept his cigarette case in his left breast pocket of his tunic. He took a hit and the case saved him. Apparently after the bullet strike he kept it in that pocket until the war was over! Early Tommy body armour!
7

JT,

05/07/2008 12:43:40
Instead of going shopping for their John Lewis goods, perhaps the MP's should go shopping for army equipment that will try and save our soilders lives wherever they are in the world!!!
8

Thistledhu,

05/07/2008 12:49:28
the helmets are mainly designed to give protection from shrapnel however i know of a freind who was saved from a snipers shot in northern Ireland by the same type of helmet.
its good to hear that the helmet prtected him it is even better to hear how he got on with his job and engaged the enemy WELL DONE

for years the TA were derided they are proveing there worth daily
9

Gulfstream Flier,

North Atlantic 05/07/2008 13:19:55
Incredibly many of the posts refer to the helmet actually protecting and saving the soldier....? Please read the story again and you will note that the bullet went straight through the helmet offering no protection at all!
The soldier survived only because the bullet missed his head when it tore through the helmet. The helmets are not in fact not supposed to be bullet-proof, one could only wish they were...
10

Guga II,

Rockall 05/07/2008 13:24:30
Obviously this helmet was defective. That being so, how many other Kevlar helmets issued to our troops are also defective?

It sounds like there is a manufacturing fault. If this is so, our part-time so-called minister, Browne, should get it fixed straight away; and in the meantime should source decent helmets from elsewhere, as a matter of priority.
11

Caora Dubh,

Eilean a' Cheò 05/07/2008 13:51:11
Amazing how all men consider themselves to be military experts! Not knowing the calibre of the round that pierced the helmet, not knowing the range from which it was fired, the angle at which it hit the helmet, whether the helmet slowed the round sufficiently to prevent serious injury, or the required specifications of such helmets, men jump to conclusions about whether the helmet was "effective" or "defective". Laugh girls, laugh! And celebrate the fact that another Scot hasn't died.
12

JimmyRibsh1te,

Livvie 05/07/2008 14:32:08
Given that he's from Wishaw he probably didn't need a helmet ;)

13

The Gorm,

canada 05/07/2008 14:55:24
Do you mean a"British" soldier who happens to be a scot. Grab that SNP.
14

pehman,

sussex 05/07/2008 16:21:28

11 Guga 11,

Nothing wrong with helmet, Kevlar wont stop staight shot, only a glancing one
15

Guga II,

Rockall 05/07/2008 16:40:05
#15 Peham.

Well we were told that they would stop any fully jacketed 7.62mm. Somebody must have been lying, or the helmets in question are defective.
16

Trade-wind,

USA 05/07/2008 20:09:08
I think many of you don't appreciate how dangerious it really is, and no armor of anykind will save you if your
number is up. Look at the armor that shielded the people in the towers on 9/11. You need to quit blaming someone for failure when everyone who makes helmets tries their damnedest to be sure no one wearing one dies. Also our governments do all they can to get the best equipment. I have never heard so much crying and complaining from Americans or Scots as during this time of conflict. These brave men go out to protect you bunch of whining sots. I'm not sure your worth saving.
17

Displaced Scot,

UK 05/07/2008 20:26:11
We in Canterbury are very proud of the Argyll's as they are based in the city. As a Scot I am especially proud of the service they are doing in Afghanistan. I only hope that the local pub landlords would be as welcoming, when they return home.
18

barbour,

the perfect city 05/07/2008 21:38:51
#16 Guga,
When you say "we"who is the "we"? are you inferring that you were told during induction training or are you another armchair expert whose only contact with service kit is during a visit to the surplus store for work clothes?
19

Stevie. G,

Las Vegas 06/07/2008 00:04:36
#17
You may have a point about the crying & complaining, but it's NOT ONLY THE SCOTTISH PEOPLE that are complaining, complaints from ALL over the world.
These men & women are out their fighting to keep you FREE, so why don't you let them do their job.
I take it you have served in the armed forces by your comment,so you should know how difficult a job they have out there.
ANY AMERICAN / SCOTTISH LIFE IS WORTH SAVING,IF THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR YOU AND ME,AND MILLIONS LIKE US.

20

David, whose Dad was a British Soldier. ,

Midlands 06/07/2008 01:00:19
I ask myself why are our men and women in Afganistan risking their lives. They offered no threat to us in the Uk,Iraq never worried me either, why are our service men and women there? My children will never join the British forces. So sorry for the parents of those who are there and sincerely hope they are home soon.
21

Reaver,

Lebanon, Oregon USA 06/07/2008 07:30:55
When I was in the Sand in 03, a buddy was shot in the head. Two rounds through the back of the cab of the truck he was driving, up into the Kevlar. There was a long bulge on the inside, and you can see the back end of both rounds. It saved his life, and the Battalion Commander wrote it off as a combat loss and presented it to him as a keepsake. They are only meant to stop schrapnel, but they work pretty damn well.
22

Lovepan,

England, UK 06/07/2008 12:22:10
Kevlar helmets are not designed to stop a direct bullet.

That a bullet should pass straight through the helmet leads me to believe that the soldier was perhaps wearing one of the lighter helmets, like those worn by the paras.

I'm just amazed that the bullet didn't ricochet downwards and into his head.

I wear a kevlar helmet almost daily, and in my opinion they are great pieces of kit.

23

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 06/07/2008 13:29:07
It would seem that Guga is a failed military expert and his assumptions and "expert knowledge" are occasionally laughable.

But he does try, dear old fellow.

I commend all the Scots soldiers and support personnel for their valiant efforts at trying to bring peace and sanity to that part of the world - and to all the other soldiers and sailors who risk their lives every day in that very dangerous "danger zone".

Our Canadian troops in Kandahar - The Princess Patricia Light Infantry from Quebec - have had about eight noble deaths from the Taleban monsters there and I sometimes wonder what the hell we are doing there.

Bring our troops hope and let them sort out their own quagmire of Islamic religious intolerance and stupidity. It is THEIR fight, not ours.

Even the majority of Americans don't want any more marines sent there but will George BABYBush listen?

No, he will not. He is too stoooopid.
24

sonofhamish,

edinburgh 06/07/2008 13:43:29
The problem here isn't Afghanistan, its Iraq. Iraq is an illegal and immoral war that distracted us from the real job that needed doing in Afghanistan. If you forget the oil in Iraq, Afghanistan is strategic problem of far more importance and ensuring stability there is essential.

Our boys put their lives on the line everyday and should be commended for their bravery. I am sure its likely that kit needs to be replaced and updated and perhaps we should be looking to increase some of military spending to cover that. I think there are some signifcant savings that can be had by reducing chav handouts for life, and maybe restricting income support if you dont work to 5 years lifetime max, or send them to Afghanistan :).
25

sonofhamish,

edinburgh 06/07/2008 13:43:29
The problem here isn't Afghanistan, its Iraq. Iraq is an illegal and immoral war that distracted us from the real job that needed doing in Afghanistan. If you forget the oil in Iraq, Afghanistan is strategic problem of far more importance and ensuring stability there is essential.

Our boys put their lives on the line everyday and should be commended for their bravery. I am sure its likely that kit needs to be replaced and updated and perhaps we should be looking to increase some of military spending to cover that. I think there are some signifcant savings that can be had by reducing chav handouts for life, and maybe restricting income support if you dont work to 5 years lifetime max, or send them to Afghanistan :).
26

Johnonymous,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 11:04:30
British Mk6 helmets are NOT made from kevlar, but rather a ballistic nylon. They are rated to stop only pistol rounds and fragments of metal, but the latest Mk6a might just save you from a higher velocity round, assuming it had lost much of its energy either through distance, richochet, or both.

The helmet neither failed, nor did it stop the bullet. Guga - get a clue please. Nowhere is it stated that the combat helmet will stop a 7.62 bullet - no current infantry helmet is capable of that.

 

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