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Published Date: 14 January 2009
SCOTTISH whisky may have to be distilled from French barley in the future as a result of EU laws banning at least 22 pesticides from fields across Europe, it has been claimed.
Controversial legislation passed in Brussels yesterday aims to reduce the amount of products deemed harmful to human health or the environment used on crops.

Supporters argue that the measures, which have been watered down in the past few months
to allow the continued use of pesticides for which there is no alternative for up to ten years, do not go far enough. But critics warn that they could cause crop yields to plummet and food prices to rocket.

Some say yields of potatoes, wheat and carrots, which rely on pesticides to ward off diseases associated with the UK's damp conditions, will suffer.

Struan Stevenson, a Tory MEP for Scotland, said he was "appalled by the decision" and claimed Scotland would have to import products from warmer countries that had less of a problem with disease.

"It will make wheat, oat and barley in Scotland uneconomical," he said. "We can look forward to whisky being distilled from barley imported from France."

He added that some of the chemicals being banned were commonly used in over-the-counter medicines, such as treatments for athlete's foot.

Hilary Benn, the Environment Secretary, demanded a full impact assessment of the proposed changes.

He said: "These regulations could hit agricultural production in the UK for no recognisable benefit to human health."

Products for protection of plants will be judged on the basis of "perceived hazard", rather than an assessment of risk.

Dr James Gilmour, former director of the Agricultural Advisory Service for Scotland, said this was "fundamentally illogical and wrong-headed".

He said: "If you applied these criteria to coffee, it would be banned throughout the EU, as would alcohol."

And Jim McLaren, president of NFU Scotland, said it was "ridiculous" that food could be imported from outside the EU with no control over what had been used to treat it.

However, the Soil Association backed the ban, and dismissed as "nonsense" the idea that production of entire crops, such as carrots, in the UK might cease.

Peter Melchett, the policy director, said organic farmers had proven crops could be grown with minimal use of pesticides.

Manfred Krautter, of Greenpeace, said the EU should have imposed an immediate ban, rather than a ten-year phase-out of the most toxic pesticides.

And a Liberal Democrat MEP, Chris Davies, said the measure would encourage manufacturers to develop safer alternatives, adding that it was time to stop treating the world "like a giant chemistry set".

The proposed changes, which would ban most crop-spraying and bring in strict conditions on pesticides used near water supplies, were overwhelmingly backed by 577 MEPs, easily exceeding the 393 threshold required to approve the measures.

However, ministers from the 27 member states must vote on whether to approve the draft laws, opposed by the UK government.

Hugh Raven: Three cheers for the creation of a safer environment

• Hugh Raven is the director of the Soil Association Scotland

CONGRATULATIONS to the European Parliament for upholding the public interest with its vote on pesticides. In the current economic climate, I sympathise with anyone worried about the viability of their business. But I find it hard to understand the recent over-reaction to these modest proposals.

The marginal reduction in the number of Europe's more dangerous pesticides is a small step in the right direction. Of that small number, most that in due course will go are known endocrine disrupters (ie they can upset human hormone systems); a smaller number are linked with cancer, cause cell mutations or are toxic to reproduction.

To its shame, the UK government is one of the few in the EU to oppose this small step. Perhaps it was taken in by suggestions that wheat yields could be cut by up to 60 per cent.

We should not be surprised at the extravagance of these claims. Steps towards safer food supplies have almost always been opposed by small but vociferous lobbies.

Over the years, many deadly poisons have been removed, accompanied by dire warnings about the consequences for food prices. Yet until recently, prices fell almost continuously for generations, and so far as I know no-one is claiming recent price increases are in any way related to limits on poisonous chemicals.

Don't expect this time to be any different. The crops in question will continue to be grown. Perhaps the production conditions will change – with more natural methods of husbandry that break the cycle of disease and pest attacks, resulting in a greater choice of more resistant varieties of crops.

Farming can thrive without these chemicals. Farmers have been producing healthy crops without them for years. Organic producers have been proving that season after season for at least the past 30 years.







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  • Last Updated: 14 January 2009 1:03 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Whisky
 
1

Shenachy,

South Queensferry 14/01/2009 01:11:19
Might be a wee bit of a 'scare' story here. Of course it would be ideal if all distilleries used Scottish grown barley but I am pretty certain that imported barley is nothing new to Scottish distilleries. Can any knowledgeable whisky 'expert' confirm this?
2

Ewan Randall,

14/01/2009 01:19:58
Dram those europeans, or then again don't use the pesticides, doesn't that make sense?
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 14/01/2009 02:19:14

AGAIN! Instead of standing-up, for ourselves,...

...."Scottish Whisky", will become a thing of the past, controlled by others, Like HBOS!!

While 'Salmond Sleeps', one is putting the, Polish Flag', on Edinburgh Castle, and our new national 'Drink' will be Vodka!!

Soo Much for the SNP!!!!

More the Likes "SNP" Stands for,...

"Simply.Not.Patriot"!!

4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 14/01/2009 02:23:36




Wake-Up!, Mr Salmond!, Do Something!!

For a Channge!


5

fair scunnered,

edinburgh 14/01/2009 04:37:45
its all very well blaming salmond,but soon scotland will not be able to grow wheat and barley,dueto global warming,wheat grows best here as its a colder climate than the south of england,reports on this have appeared over the years
yes as scots we should betelling the frogs leg munchers to hop it
where are the so called british meps ,dont here them shouting about it
the eec will have us eating our own hair as its very easy to grow and no pesticides needed,unless one has thrupny bits(nits)
anything to discredit this scots parli,this paper will print
why dont you all ask your mps why "its not in the public ,interest to know,why labour shifted the sea bounderies,from berwick to Carnoustie ,thus making that part of the north sea come,under english court",what underhand motives did blair/fib dems and scottish lazybour vote it through the parli,with only the snp complaining why was labour doing it
http://www.oilofscotland.org/scottish_politics.html#Scotlands_marine_boundries
6

!Ya basta!,

14/01/2009 04:52:43
More private sector whingeing.

Hmm, genuine threats to public health vs. industry profit. I choose public health.

So what if they have to import, if its safer and more natural then good.

The environment is also not just a utility for our benefit it has intrinsic value which we ignore at our own peril in the end. We also have a duty to protect not pollute it for future generations.

7

Scozzy,

14/01/2009 04:58:18
Congratulations to the EU for recognising the harm caused by these poisonous pesticides.

Conversely, shame on all Scots who support the use of these products which are used by lazy, ignorant and selfish farmers who are only interested in maximisimg profits at any cost.

It should also be remembered that the main proponents of pesticides is the GM industry which has a vested interest in their use.
8

Scozzy,

14/01/2009 05:04:03
I should also add that if whisky was marketed as an organic product its share of the world market would increase significantly leading to increased profits and a safer environment.
9

Rufus-T-Firefly,

14/01/2009 06:38:29
So where is the Snp spokesman or Snp MP TO complain about this?

Oh I forgot. They only clamber for the microphone when its a chance to pick a fight with Westminster. When its the EU, they are strangely quiet.
10

Ewan Randall,

14/01/2009 06:53:09
(#4) & (#5) – (Charles Linskaill) – Is Mr Salmond meant to stand up for ban pesticides?
Isn’t most of the Whisky industry owned by none Scottish concerns?
Vodka doesn’t leave a smell on your breath, could that be why it is so popular?
Who in their right mind would call a nationalist party not patriotic?
11

Donnie Murdo,

Western Isles 14/01/2009 07:51:31
Hud the bus. The distilleries only take a small percentage of malting barley from Scottish land. The majority actually comes from eastern Europe.

The economics of it is that our premium barely is worth more (was anyway until Leibour fecked our economy)as an export and given the strength of the pound in the past, it was economically more sensible to use cheaper but just as good imports within the EU.


This isn't a story, this is hack knee jerk reporting substantiated by hearsay and prejudice. The journo really needs to go visit a few of our distilleries to find out where the barely actually comes from and given we are one big family now ,importing good quality but cheap barely from Poland or Cheko is nothing to be ashamed of, we have been doing it for centuries.....

Ps, get this, lie-bour (one word) is now a banned word in this snoozepaper.
12

Grahamski,

Falkirk 14/01/2009 08:07:44
13
Perhaps the Scotsman is getting as tired of the nats propensity for childish name calling as the rest of us. Perhaps you could explain why it is only the cybernats who fail to raise themselves above the playground? There seems to be a bit of a traditon within nationalsim to think it's clever to call their opponents names. It's not, it merely highlights the infantile nature of nationalism.
Anyway, good on the Scotsman for taking as stand against this pathetic affectation.
13

Donnie Murdo,

Western Isles 14/01/2009 08:13:02
14

Um, this is an article about browing barley in Scotland. Sadly you have now turned it into a petty "it was the SNP what done did it" argument.

You have proved case in point the inability of the rit Nat Lyebour supporter to engage in something that may affect the Scottish economy more severely than Central Westminster.

Perhaps you would like to comment on the articlee? Or would you prefer to engage in a political slanging match?
14

Faux Cul,

14/01/2009 08:17:49
Nonsense story.

The Scotch Whisky Industry has been using malted barley, maize and wheat from wherever it was economic.

It used to import the maize from N America and I have used barley from France, Finland, England and Scotland.

It is all economics.

Anyway there is not enough available cereal of the right quality in Scotland to satisfy the whisky and beer industries needs.
15

Navvy,

on the France bypass 14/01/2009 08:23:39
No pesticides in France? Baloney. Why have we not yet learned how to play the EU game? The French argue a little, say yes and then go their own way. We stupid people argue for ever thus upsetting everyone and then are silly enough to actually enact AND enforce the agreement.

We are naive beyoud belief

We even by French Golden "Delicious" bland apples in place of our own delectable varieties
16

Navvy,

Moray 14/01/2009 08:24:12
The recent frosts should help the farmers and kill the bugs
17

Faux Cul,

14/01/2009 08:26:20
I must add that the comments from Charlie boy, Rufus Barfly and Ewan are all pathetic písh.

Know something what the story is about, engage brain, make pertinent comment.

Anything less is a waste of bandwidth; vacuous blubbering or troll vomit.
18

Liberal for life,

Dunblane 14/01/2009 08:31:03
It might make whisky a less hazardous mix of low residue toxic chemicals if the barley is lower in the same pesticide residues.

I suspect this will simply add to a greater demand from the farming industry for GM crops to grow - and that will open up an even bigger "can of worms". If Scotland wishes to become recognised as a place where more organically produced food is grown, including the livestock that feeds on the grass etc, then some serious thinking, planning, and choices will have to be made. I await that debate with interest.
19

paulr,

edinburgh 14/01/2009 08:32:07
here we go again, next it will be reintroducing eu legislation on bananas being too bent or apples being too red.
20

paulr,

edinburgh 14/01/2009 08:33:53
When are the british government going to accept the fact that the french and germans propose this type of legislation to benefit themselves because they have no intention of ever obeying it.
21

Donnie Murdo,

Western Isles 14/01/2009 08:42:43
Labour Blames SNP for EU Ruling on Pesticide Use

Grahamski Congratulates Labour for Blaming SNP

Labour Blames SNP for Wallaces Wrong Trousers
22

Selgovae,

14/01/2009 08:43:17
"He added that some of the chemicals being banned were commonly used in over-the-counter medicines, such as treatments for athlete's foot."

Right. And we all know there are no harmful effects of spreading Athlete's Foot cream on your toast.

23

Mallory,

Edinburgh 14/01/2009 08:53:06
Hadn't realised that pesticide residues were such an important ingredient of whisky. Shame on the EU for attacking our national tipple presumably to prop up brandy and vodka.
24

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14/01/2009 09:20:19
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Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 14/01/2009 09:26:45
#6 Scunnered. "soon scotland will not be able to grow wheat and barley,dueto global warming,wheat grows best here as its a colder climate "

I take it you are not from a farming background? Canadian, Australian and American wheat are the preferred high-gluten wheats (hard wheats) because they are grown in long, hot summers. Cold and damp kill cereal crops - which is why Ireland is largely dairy and horse country - they cannot grow wheat reliably except in the area around Cork.

Many of our wheat and barley crops receive FOURTEEN sprayings of fungicides, herbicides and pesticides in a single season. These are some of the deadliest chemicals ever created. Exposure to one widely used fungicide results in foetuses being born with no eyes. A woman recently received massive compensation because her baby was born with no eyes - after she walked beside a field for a few minutes when she was pregnant - while it was being sprayed.

If they make the poison-companies find safe alternatives - they will. The truth is that before 1945 - farmers got pretty good yields because there was an ecological balance in their fields. The aphids, caterpillars and thrips were eaten by ladybirds, partridges, bluetits, skylarks and so on. The modern pesticides kill all the insects, so there are no birds to keep them in check when the insects re-invade. It's called an arms war = but we will never beat Nature.
26

ddmc,

14/01/2009 10:05:49
is this a plot by monsanto to introduce GM barley etc ?
27

Jeeemy,

St Andrews 14/01/2009 10:15:41
fair scunnered, Edinburgh#
Friend, just think about this a little more, if you shift the legal boundary from Berwick on Tweed to Carnoustie, the area in question includes the Firth of Forth.
Now the Firth of Forth has been used by successive Westminster Governments as a dumping ground for munitions since before the First World War, this in the trench that runs east and west of the May Isle.
I now pose for you and others why would the Government do some unannounced test borings in that area then change the legal boundaries? I do not believe the answer is oil, in this case as the geological structure does not indicate oil bearing possibilities.
The answer I do believe is to be found in a commodity that the Government wishes to bury for the next 2,000 years.
28

Alan Reid,

NZ 14/01/2009 10:34:14
This is from a website concerning the funds needed to build the New Wembley, and how exactly it was paid for.
Of course the UK taxpayer, which means of course Scottish tax payers, shelled out for this.
And money was taken from the lottery.
How much money now is getting stolen from Scottish lottery projects to help pay for the Olmypics

So what do you say about this Rufus / W Smith / Smee/ Grahamski/ AM2 ???

A fair and just Union? I think not

Those who follow football in the UK will be well aware of the debacle which is the new Wembley Stadium. This is a stadium which was supposed to be rebuilt back in 2000 and finished in 2003 but instead work began in 2003 and was not finished until 2007. There is also the fact that the stadium was supposed to cost £240 million yet came in with a final figure of £790 million. So is new Wembley the pinnacle of technology for the UK football scene in the future or a large white elephant?

Legal and financial arguments
The original Wembley was supposed to have been closed in 2000 to let work commence on the new Wembley Stadium but due to legal wranglings, financial wars and a general confusion amongst those in charge the venture did not get off the ground until three years later in 2003. Even in 2003 the original estimated cost of £240 million had increased substantially and there were great concerns that the cost of the project was going to run out of control.

Work finally commences
In the second half of 2003 we saw the old Wembley demolished and work finally began on the new Wembley design which have been put together by architects HOK Sport and Foster and Partners with engineers Mott MacDonald and the overall project managed by Multiplex. Initially the venture was funded by Sport England, Wembley National Stadium Ltd, the Football Association, the Department for Culture Media and Sport and the London Development Agency. However, controversially the name of the Lottery Fund was added to the list of contributors

29

Alan Reid,

NZ 14/01/2009 10:34:45
2
Work finally commences
In the second half of 2003 we saw the old Wembley demolished and work finally began on the new Wembley design which have been put together by architects HOK Sport and Foster and Partners with engineers Mott MacDonald and the overall project managed by Multiplex. Initially the venture was funded by Sport England, Wembley National Stadium Ltd, the Football Association, the Department for Culture Media and Sport and the London Development Agency. However, controversially the name of the Lottery Fund was added to the list of contributors and more and more the project relied upon the lottery to cover much of the additional cost.

The timeline to completion
When the project was finally handed over to the Football Association on 9 March 2007 it was four years behind schedule and more than £500 million over the original cost estimate. Points of note include:-

Late 2003 old Wembley demolished
December 2003 first delay as constructors of the arch warned Multiplex of rising costs
2005 – 2006 Multiplex rumoured to be in financial trouble
March 2006 parts of the Wembley roof collapses causing evacuation of the project
March 2006 sewage system under Wembley is damaged due to ground movement
March 2006 developers confirm the project will be at least 12 months late
June 2006 new turf laid
October 2006 confirmation that new Wembley will open in early 2007
March 2007 new Wembley opened for local residents
May 2007 new Wembley Arena open for first FA Cup final

These are just a few of the main events along the way although they do not give the whole story of the debacle which is the new Wembley project. Between 2003 and 2007 the cost of the project went from £240 million to £790 million with the UK taxpayer expected to give more and more towards the cost. This increased input from the taxpayer came from government funding as well as a number of smash and grabs on the National Lottery Fund.

Not ONE Unionist (Rufus / W Smith / Smee/ Grahams
30

Alan Reid,

NZ 14/01/2009 10:35:41
3

Not ONE Unionist (Rufus / W Smith / Smee/ Grahamski/ AM2) have commented on this story, wonder why?
31

Mikey,

14/01/2009 10:53:10
Rufus the racist bemoans the fact that Salmond has not intervened in this.

Kinda shows just how much of racist imbeciles Rufus the racist and his alter egos are?
32

Miss H,

14/01/2009 10:55:52
How did they manage to make whisky before these pesticides were invented?
33

Alan Reid,

NZ 14/01/2009 11:01:17
Rufus and other Unionist f@ckwits, care to try and smear the SNP one this one?

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/politics/Holyrood-overturns-Russian-fish-trade.4872035.jp#comments
34

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 14/01/2009 11:03:58
#27

Then the SNFU should be promoting better pest control for scottish conditions whether organic or safer treatments. To keep the quality and reputation of home grown cereals.
35

New Town Resident,

14/01/2009 11:11:51
This is about a European parliament vote. Unlikely it will ever be imposed in the UK because the UK government will block it (hopefully).

European MEPs vote in political blocks, not national groups as they are paid to do that. Hence Scottish Labour MEPs voted in favour even though UK government is against. UK Tory MEPs voted against, but so did their block.

How did the Scottish SNP MEP vote? Does the SNP support the UK government position? Once again a Scotsman article fails to convey this sort of essential information.

#34. Well in 17000 everything was organic and Scotland was self suffcient in food once because there was no signicant trade. Seriously I think the whisky barley issue is overplayed for the reasons other posters have pointed out - the real problem will come in our very important potato and carrot crops. Scotland is self sufficient in both of these at present but is also an important supplier of these staple crops to the rest of the UK. Fife and the Border farmers have got into this excellent position because our damp soils are best for these crops but only if you can use pesticides. So the risk is its going to be like fishing all over again if the UK government doesn't hold the line. All those lovely bags of potatoes and carrots you see in Sainsburys and Waitrose emblazonned with the Saltire will disappear to be replaced with "organic" French and Spanish crops.
36

Ewan Oosami,

14/01/2009 12:09:12
I don't give a monkeys - can't stand the stuff myself
37

jtdx,

14/01/2009 12:12:54
Next thing you know you will be able to eat raw carrots without pealing them first, if these europeans get their way.
38

SkeptikScot,

14/01/2009 13:25:11
What terrible news, I need a whisky!
:-)
39

Rufus-T-Firefly,

14/01/2009 13:50:19
33 Mikey,14/01/2009 10:53:10
Rufus the racist bemoans the fact that Salmond has not intervened in this.
=========================================================
Mikey the Moron

Untrue, I never mentioned Salmond you imbecile.
40

BillC,

Amsterdam 14/01/2009 13:50:35
"James Gilmour, former director of the Agricultural Advisory Service for Scotland, said this was "fundamentally illogical and wrong-headed"."

He said: "If you applied these criteria to coffee, it would be banned throughout the EU, as would alcohol"."

I suspect that if coffee and alcohol were indiscriminately pumped into the atmosphere in nebulised form, they would be banned throughout the EU. However consumption of both products is still voluntary and generally taken internally.

I hope that "Dr." Gilmour is not a medical practitioner. I wouldn't want this "fundamentally illogical and wrong-headed" half-wit treating me or my family.
41

Rufus-T-Firefly,

14/01/2009 13:51:22
33 Mikey,14/01/2009 10:53:10
Kinda shows just how much of racist imbeciles Rufus the racist and his alter egos are?
=====================================================
Mikey the Moron

Try English next time.
42

Ewan Randall,

14/01/2009 13:53:30
(#19) – (Faux Cul) - Oooooo……ni….ce! Straight to…yes, no point. How do you manage to be so eloquent and still say nothing?

Wait a minute you don't. How do you manage that?
43

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 14/01/2009 14:18:16
#2 Mainly Denmark and Canada.

So what has this idiot got to gain by making such stupid scaremongering statements? For that matter, what has the Scotsman got to gain by publishing them?

The real story isn't about whisky, it's about the EU introducing unnecessary and costly regulations which the four UK agencies will enforce up to the hilt while continental farmers laugh all the way to the bank.

44

Morry,

Scotland 14/01/2009 17:34:18
Oh my gawd, no Scotch in the shop........better buy now before it all disappears,
C'mon Mr.Lochhead, get your finger out, prove your worth, forget the unions, listen to them that knows best and DO SOMETHING!

C'mon, you did IT for the fishermen, you saved the west coast fishing, you brought back the Russian imports / exports fishing,

Scotland's FARMERS NEED YOU!
45

Faux Cul,

14/01/2009 17:38:05
#44
Ewan Randall

You are sooo full of rhetoric about things you know not.

How do you manage that?
46

Robbie 2,

New Zealand 14/01/2009 18:40:11
2# Shenachy, South Queensferry 14/01/2009 01:11:19
“I am pretty certain that imported barley is nothing new to Scottish distilleries. Can any knowledgeable whisky 'expert' confirm this?”

I worked in a distillery laboratory in the early 1960’s. There was plenty of American maize (corn) used then and I remember the bags were often full of ‘imported’ weevils which would have gone into the mash.
47

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 14/01/2009 23:18:01
You aquire sense at a certain age, then you lose it. The last independent Caithness distiller thus called it a day. Before you get a knock on the door. There are no longer Scots-based companies making whisky or using local barley.

 

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