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Published Date: 21 July 2008
Fixed penalty fines halve but we remain hounded by dirt.


THE number of fines dished out for dog fouling has halved in the Capital, despite residents claiming it is tough to walk down some streets without stepping in it.

Environment leaders claim they are winning the war on dog dirt, with just 144 fixed penalty notices handed out in 2007-8, compared to 289 two years earlier.

But campaigners believe irresponsible owners have just become more cunning about where they allow pets to foul.

Joan Turner, chairwoman of Royston and Wardieburn Community Council, said: "We routinely carry out a survey of what people think is wrong with the area and it still comes up as number one.

"I've noticed a difference on the main roads, but when you get into the housing schemes it is as bad as ever. It is difficult to walk along the pavement in certain areas."

There are also concerns that people are wrapping dog dirt in a bag but discarding it on the ground rather than binning it.

Linda Tarbuck, chairwoman of Leith Links Residents Association, said: "More still needs to be done. What we now seem to be getting is little plastic bags left everywhere. Part of that may be down to the number of bins, I don't think there's enough.

"But some people are just lazy and I would like to see more enforcement action taken against them. Dog fouling is unacceptable and it is down to the owners to take responsibility."

A Keep Scotland Beautiful anti-dog fouling roadshow has just visited Edinburgh. A spokeswoman said: "There's a minority for whom enforcement action is still needed.

"Wrapping it up in a bag and then leaving the bag – that's just daft. That's why we have put out the message that it's not good enough just to bag it, you've got to bin it as well. We get too many stories of trees with bags hanging from them. It is the item of litter that bothers people the most."

However, she confirmed habits are changing and local authorities trying to eradicate dog dirt from our streets are winning the war.

The spokeswoman said: "On the whole people do realise they need to pick up their dog dirt. More and more people all over the country are going with a pooper scooper and picking up after pets."

Councillor Norman Work, the city's deputy health, social care and housing leader, said: "It is a positive step in the right direction to see the number of fines being issued on the decrease, as the message is obviously going through.

"The number of people clearing up after their dogs has grown significantly in the last few years thanks to education and a growing widespread awareness of the risks posed by not doing so. I would encourage residents and visitors to the city to keep up the good work and 'Grab it, bag it, bin it'."

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  • Last Updated: 21 July 2008 12:28 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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21/07/2008 11:54:34
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Sarcasm,

21/07/2008 12:13:28
"We routinely carry out a survey of what people think is wrong with the area and it still comes up as number one."

Number 2 surely.

3

I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 12:15:51
Heh-heh.

He said "number two".
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 12:16:34
My dog doesn't do number twos. He does number thirteens.
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LBBB,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 12:17:53
Where I stay in Caledonian Village in Dalry - the place is a dump with dog dirt almost daily. It really makes me furious. I'm just so sick of all these lazy dog owners not picking up after their pets. Dalry Road towards Haymarket is always filthy as well. Why do they let their dogs make a mess right in the MIDDLE of the pavement???
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Labradoodle,

cleaning my shoes 21/07/2008 12:25:53
Bothwell St just off Easter Road HAS to be the worst street for dog turds in Edinbugrh.
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Miss Pixie,

formerly of Dinleyhaughfoot Cottage, Roxburghshire 21/07/2008 12:33:39
Does the Queen "bag it and bin it"? Surely she must! Perhaps she would be willing to be part of this campaign, leading by example?
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The Judge,

21/07/2008 12:42:35
What a load of garbage, the wardens are handing out less fines because they've been in the job for a few years now and know all the dodges, they know when and where to hide from their supervisors. Owners aren't getting smarter, wardens are getting even lazier.

Privatise it out like the traffic wardens and we'll see less dog dirt on the streets and harder working wardens for less outlay.
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Ticcychick,

Morningside 21/07/2008 12:51:55
Balcarres Street's really bad at the mo :-(
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Sarcasm,

21/07/2008 12:52:09
5
That's clever.
The 3 must be particularly challenging.

Roman numerals would be most impressive.
11

Edge Living,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 12:58:56
Lazy wardens, nonsense, The Environmental Wardens in this city have a very difficult job.
They have nore than just dog fouling to deal with.
I do not think that it helps when people who know nothing about the jobs that people do make unconsidered comments like this.
12

Furious,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 13:06:41
Sorry no improvement.

Restalrig Drive & Craigentinny Road/Sleigh Drive.
Disgusting.

Mind you its difficult to see the dog poo as the pavements are almost all grass in some places.

Is that no the cooncils job as well??

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alex paterson,

edinburgh 21/07/2008 13:11:43
This includes Zorros Brother,mother,and the rest of the litter.
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Ron D,

Enybru 21/07/2008 13:13:49
The only dogs that should be allowed in the city are guide dogs.
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PARTSMAN,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 13:14:43
FOWLER TERRACE, OFF DUNDEE STREET SHOULD BE RE-NAMED,
FOULER TERRACE!!!DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

21/07/2008 13:15:05
Didn't I read that they could DNA test dog poo? Do that, go round the area testing dogs until the miscreant is identified, then charge them for the entire exercise. That will quickly discourage the behaviour.
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alex patersons English teacher,

21/07/2008 13:15:34
watch out for the litter alex, theres environmental wardens about.
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Tukhachevsky,

21/07/2008 13:23:23
LBBB (Number 6)

You are spot on! I stay in Dalry and it is a disgrace the amount of dog hibs lying around.

The sad thing is that the Environmental Wardens work 9-5 so if you walk a dog and let it poo outwith office hours you will getaway with it. Source? The Environmental Wardens who came to see me after I complained to my Councillor! Nothing has changed since, btw. Same old.

Personally, I think that the owners should be shot.
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Tukhachevsky,

21/07/2008 13:23:39
LBBB (Number 6)

You are spot on! I stay in Dalry and it is a disgrace the amount of dog hibs lying around.

The sad thing is that the Environmental Wardens work 9-5 so if you walk a dog and let it poo outwith office hours you will getaway with it. Source? The Environmental Wardens who came to see me after I complained to my Councillor! Nothing has changed since, btw. Same old.

Personally, I think that the owners should be shot.
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elayne,

21/07/2008 13:31:07
caledonian crescent area is like a minefield,so is some of south side,theres nothing more mining i can think of than satnding in dog keech and traipsing it through the house(yeah its happened)btw whatever happened to white dog keech???not seen one since about 1976
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 13:33:07
12.

Well, why does the poor number 2 get associated with faeces? Thirteen is supposedly an unlucky number, so it just seemed to make sense. In our house, "I've done a number two" makes no more sense than "I've done a number four". But if you hear someone say "I've done a number thirteen" then you reach for the loo brush.
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 13:40:12
This is just another excuse to raise money. Dog dirt is bio-degradeable and dissappears pretty damn quickly. It presents absolutely no risk.

If people don't like it, they should wake up and watch where they are going.
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elayne,

21/07/2008 13:42:54
#24,but dog poo carries all sorts of toxins,its stinky and its not nice to clean shoes which have been plastered in the stuff
24

My opinions count for more than yours,

because I'm special 21/07/2008 13:55:02
25

You're right, of course. Pay no attention to the ill-conceived thoughts of certain people on this thread.
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farepak customer,

21/07/2008 13:56:30
well i have phoned environental health about dog fouling where people let their dogs into a green fenced off area ,,wait till their dogs done the job and walk away without picking it up! 3 times i phoned them it was a waste of time though as they promised to send someone but nobody ever arrived! they could make a fortune in fines where i live!
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stuartyboy,

edinburgh 21/07/2008 13:57:11
It's high time dog licences were brought back,it
might stop those individuals that really couldn't
care about their animals or the mess they leave
behind from having a dog in the first place,more so
if it was a substantial amount they had to pay only
the true lovers of their animals would pay up.
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elayne,

21/07/2008 13:59:10
stange question but what happens to all the keech that IS picked up by wardens etc???and why are dog poo disposal boxes used as litter bins,cmon,thats minging,one slip of the hand etc,urgghhh
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Palermo,

21/07/2008 13:59:14
#20 and #21

You're doing it again
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Salvatori,

21/07/2008 13:59:59
24 - yeah that's right dog dirt presents no risk.

"Hey kids, anyone for a dog turd fight"?

No need to worry about the hookworm or toxioplasmosis, Alternative FH says it's perfectly safe.
30

Palermo,

21/07/2008 14:00:04
#20 and #21
You're doing it again

#20 That'll teach you for all those cheeky anti-Hibs comments

And it'll teach you too, #21...
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 14:19:36
29.

It gets reformed into contestants for ITV's "The X-Factor".
32

Gary_BSW,

21/07/2008 14:28:29
I blame the makers of chappy, they put so much cheap processed bile in there you know...
33

Marathon,

21/07/2008 14:28:47
Why not just give dogs ASBOs?

(Anti Stool Behavioural Orders)
34

elayne,

21/07/2008 14:38:08
#34 pedigree chum is much worse,so is that tripe stuff.leith links used to be awful for dogs mess,my sister once fell into a steaming pile of the stuff,only in those days(early 70s)there were no dog poo bags/bins,so owners just let the dog drop one wherever it wanted to,in these days owners have NO excuse
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21/07/2008 15:06:21
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 15:14:20
#25:

"...not nice to clean shoes which have been plastered in the stuff"

So watch where you are going and don't tread in it then. If it happens, tough. Deal with it. You are a big girl now!

#31:

Unless you decide to eat the stuff, this is not going to be a problem. Generally, you find that things which it is a bad idea to eat tend to smell quite horrible in order to put you off from doing so. They also tend to induce vomiting, should you be daft enough to try anyway.

I remember all the knee-jerking about this years ago. It is a fuss over nothing and it's about time everyone grew up and accepted that simple fact.
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bobwmac,

New Mexico/Stirlingshire 21/07/2008 15:22:42
"Wrapping it up in a bag and then leaving the bag – that's just daft" - maybe, but it's true, it happens. I came across this practice in our Scottish neighbourhood - neat parcels of poo sealed in plastic and left tied to bushes 50 yards from the bin.

Someone is not grasping the eh... concept.
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 15:29:55
40.

Don't give him any ideas, Mario.

"When I was young, we used to rub dog stool in our eyes all the time. One or two people got really sick but we all understood the risks yada yada yada"
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21/07/2008 15:42:22
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 15:42:46
Well, it's better than calling it "dog dirt", isn't it? "Dog faeces" any better? "Dog logs"? "Dog Mugabes"?
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21/07/2008 15:43:32
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21/07/2008 15:44:15
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 15:46:01
"Dog dirt". That's so-o-o-o Victorian.
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21/07/2008 15:48:36
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Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

21/07/2008 15:54:47
Another story we are prevented from commenting on concerns a child whose parents spent a lot of money on getting their child a Narnia domain name. The fact that the mother of the child writes for the Scotsman is not mentioned anywhere in the piece.
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 15:56:46
"Dog logs" has some mileage.

The other year, I heard someone referring to their poo-ing dog as being "at rest".
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21/07/2008 16:22:53
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joppa jock,

Huntingdon 21/07/2008 16:35:26
I still remember the days when I lived in Leith and the dog owners shoved their animals out of the tenement door first thing in the morning and let them run loose all day. It was a regular occurrence to find your shoes covered in the muck. Not nice at all!
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 16:36:06
"neat parcels of poo sealed in plastic and left tied to bushes 50 yards from the bin."

Which is why it is better, more natural and more hygenic to leave it uncovered on the grass without the protection from the elements that a plastic bag provides. That way, when it rains, it will get washed away. Problem solved.

Does anyone honestly think that a stinking, rancid bin full of neatly wrapped dog t**ds is more hygenic than simply letting nature take it's course? If so then you are completely mad.
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Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

21/07/2008 16:53:23
Common sense has never stood in the way of many of his opinions.
51

Salvatori,

21/07/2008 16:53:32
Well that's it then. I'm going to convert my bathroom to an extra bedroom and sh*t on the lawn from now on. It's biodegradable afterall.
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Salvatori,

21/07/2008 16:54:59
I'll also call the police and see if they are willing to come step into my garden to interview me in my honking jardin.
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Salvatori,

21/07/2008 16:56:29
And if they don't, then I'm calling the papers.
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I love to eat Sellotape,

21/07/2008 16:59:55
"My father used to feed the stuff to us. We didn't like it, and it made a few of us violently sick, but it was all part of growing up and no Trotsky-loving scum came around and started telling us what to do."
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Jean Smith,

21/07/2008 17:05:09
Dundee Street/Yeaman Place/Murdoch Terrace , all bad for people letting their dogs use the pavement. What is wrong with these people? I've seen some massive dog take a s--t right on the pavement that would have made a T-rex proud and the owner not even blink about it - it was disgusting!

Make the owner shoot their own dog on the spot as punishment.
56

Not a taxi lover.,

21/07/2008 17:49:37
Dogs shouldn't be allowed in cities. They should all be given a lead pill, problem solved.
Dog lover.
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21/07/2008 18:31:26
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Jed Smith,

Moscow 21/07/2008 18:43:23

it's the 21st century, can't they invent dogs that get all their nutrition from a pill the size of a pea?
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The Geniune Mario Antionette,

21/07/2008 19:06:03
ciggie smoking is a lot worser for people than any amount of animal poo
61

Jed Smith,

Moscow 21/07/2008 19:47:37

Bad things:

Trams
Turds
Tw@ts who cycle on the pavement

and Hamfatter
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Poetess50,

21/07/2008 20:30:14
#20 - I AGREE!!
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Drat,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 20:32:22
#38 The simple fact is that these ignorant barstewards think that any patch of green grass is open house for their macho dogs to sh*t on it, then walk away. If it was yards from your front door would you be so sympathetic?
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elayne,

21/07/2008 22:05:04
an auld man in my town once tried to pick up his alsations poo outside the post office,he wouldve been better using a soup ladle!!!but at least he tried,those who just walk away are pretty ignorant
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Julian.,

edinburgh 21/07/2008 23:20:09
#72,

Do you still get fined for trying...or are soup ladles as well as poo bags the order of the day now?
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Bertie The Bat,

Eric 22/07/2008 11:15:36
Dalmeny street in Leith is full of dog cr*p too!
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Mind you in saying that,all the streets in Leith are full of cr*p!
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 22/07/2008 12:24:08
Mario @ #56:

You are the one who doesn't have any common sense. You also pick up on the knee-jerk reaction that was going on in the late 80s as well.

A few dog t**ds lying on the grass are not a problem. Concentrating a load of neatly wrapped bits of it in a bin constitute a serious bio-hazard, but of course, no-one can see that nowadays can they?

It seems that in this pink and fluffy world, every effort is made to ensure that the brain-dead population can swan around, thinking about nothng but sweet, cuddly cartoon things, never concentrating on anything else and that they somehow have some god-given right to be safe and secure---no matter what the consequences of the daft legislation that seeks to provide this for them has on other areas of life.

So what if you tread in a dog t**d occasionally. No, it isn't pleasant but it can be dealt with. A few minutes with a stick and a running tap is all it takes---unless of course you are too stupid to realise that you have trodden in it and gleefully walk it all over your carpets. Even then, as quoted in the film "Christine", s**t wipes off.

The risk from disease and/or worms is miniscule and simply does not warrant all this fuss and the subsequent biohazard created by bins of the stuff.

People need to grow up get themselves out of this stupid pink and fluffy bubble that they like to exist in.
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Jed Smith,

Moscow 22/07/2008 12:47:10

#75 - if you like dogshit so much maybe you should go and live in the 1970s? It was all over the place - on the streets, in the park, and on television.
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Rv2!,

22/07/2008 14:16:26
Increase the dog-license to £500 and include a "tax disc" for the dogs collar. Any dog without a collar is removed, any unpaid dog, is removed. An instant tax which will support the cost of the patrols which cover this area. The tax will also reduce the amount of dogs kept by the less well off, and simply reduce the amount of dogs in our street. This tax disc could also be linked to the vets to ensure the welfare of animals is being kept up.


 

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