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Doctors get new guidelines on how to spot meningitis and cut deaths



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Published Date: 29 May 2008
DEATHS from meningitis and septicaemia could be reduced if the health service followed new guidance on the best standards of care, experts said yesterday.
About 160 cases of invasive meningococcal disease (IMD) are diagnosed in Scotland each year – down from 300 to 350 before the introduction of the meningitis C vaccine in the UK.

But doctors believe that the death rate – which stood last year at
6.4 per cent – could be cut further by making sure children and young people are diagnosed as quickly as possible and get fast and appropriate treatment.

They hope new pointers, from the Scottish Intercollegiate Guidelines Network – an NHS body tasked with improving care across the country – will create a uniform approach to diagnosing and treating IMD.

Doctors across Scotland will be expected to follow the guidance, which sets out a clear pathway, guiding doctors from first seeing children with possible symptoms of IMD to diagnosis and potentially to intensive care.

It also includes "safety netting" to ensure youngsters without a clear diagnosis are not sent away without further checks to see if symptoms get worse.

Dr David Simpson, from the Royal Hospital for Sick Children in Edinburgh, said that while some deaths from IMD were unavoidable, he did not believe the mortality rate was yet at its lowest possible level.

"In the most severe forms, it progresses at an astonishing rate. I think the mortality rate has improved, but I do not think it is at its minimum. I think we could reduce it further," he said.

Dr Simpson, who chaired the guideline development group, said a code was needed to make care uniform and iron out variations in practice across Scotland.

This would improve outcomes for patients and reduce the disabilities caused by meningitis and septicaemia: these can include hearing loss, kidney problems and sometimes amputations. "Early diagnosis and intervention is the key to ensuring successful treatment and a full recovery," Dr Simpson said.

"Although this guidance will not eradicate mortality, adherence will increase the likelihood of a positive outcome and we can hopefully begin to see a significant fall in the number of deaths and disabilities associated with this disease."

Dr Simpson said there was a need to emphasise the evidence about what was best practice.

This showed it was important for children with suspected IMD to be given antibiotics before being urgently referred to hospital for further treatment.

But in some cases, it may not be possible to make a diagnosis from the early symptoms – which include fever, headache and vomiting – because they are also symptoms of other problems, such as viral infections.

In these cases, the guidelines say it is vital that parents are made aware of the need to get emergency help if the symptoms get worse.

In cases where doctors believe it is unlikely, but still possible, that IMD will develop, the guidance says reassessments should be carried out at regular intervals. This "safety netting" is believed to be vital to stop diagnoses being missed and treatment delayed.

Anne Currie, from the Meningitis Trust, said: "These guidelines will not only help doctors but will also benefit parents, carers and anyone else involved in the diagnosis and management of the disease."

Survivor aims to spread the word

WHEN Eilidh Bannerman was just seven years old, her parents believed she would not survive after falling seriously ill with septicaemia.

The youngster was on holiday in Crieff with her family when she started feeling unwell, eventually developing a rash followed by organ failure.

At one point her heart stopped as doctors tried to reduce the effects of the disease on her body.

But now, aged 16, Eilidh is keen to help others struck with meningitis and septicaemia and raise awareness of the disease.

Her family from Hawick, including mother Arlene and father Rory, have since raised thousands of pounds for meningitis charities and the Sick Kids Hospital in Edinburgh.

"I just feel so lucky to be alive," Eilidh said yesterday.

"Other people with meningitis and septicaemia have not been so lucky."

Mrs Bannerman said Eilidh started feeling unwell at teatime and they called an out-of-hours GP. They were told to keep an eye on her and in the night took her to see the doctor, who thought it was a viral infection.

But when her symptoms got worse, the family returned to the GP again and she was immediately sent to hospital in Perth, where her heart stopped and she had to be resuscitated.

She was then taken by ambulance to the Sick Kids in Edinburgh, where she remained for almost a month.

Mrs Bannerman said for the first few days they did not know if Eilidh would survive.

"It was very frightening. We just could not believe it was happening to us.

"It is so important that parents know the symptoms of this disease. You know when your child is ill and it is vital that you get help as soon as possible."

Early symptoms of invasive meningococcal disease, which includes meningitis and septicaemia, include a rash, fever, headache, neck stiffness, mottled skin and cold hands and feet.



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  • Last Updated: 28 May 2008 10:03 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Meningitis
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 00:37:27
Its going to be of hardly any use if you cant see the Doctor in the first Place, or even Phone for Advice!

As It IS in this Day&Age.

Scenario:

Baby Child takes unwell at say 1650hours, sick, high temp, maybe a 'Funny Rash'!

Mother phones GP: "can I bring Baby to see Doctor I am Worried!"

GP Receptionist: "NO My Dear Doctor is seeing last Patient then going home for the day."

Worrying Mother: "But'''But Please I am Soo Worried!"

GP Receptionist! "Sorry Love, 'Rules Are Rules', bring Baby in tomorrow if you Worry"

Mother has NO car and NO means of transport!

2030hours, Baby Dies in Mothers Arms!!

And That is The Problem I hope that will be resolved,

"Meningitis" wont,,'Play Time' it is a Killer! in a very short Time!
2

HarderTruth,

29/05/2008 00:54:42
How about............... dial 999 you @@@rzz. Stop inventing total kaakaaa. If you're too thick to dial 999 then really you're too stupid to understand the first any instructions from a doctor.
3

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 01:14:25

HarderTruth @#2,

Soo maybe you are like that notorious guy in Edinburgh that had an £18,000 ward at the ERI made for him and him alone, because he attacked nurses,..

Followed by more madness and Dialed "999" for his,..

"Toothache"!!

Some of us wont dial "999" unless we know its an emergency, we all aint like you! (Thank God)

This Mother in the "scenario" may of felt stupid on dialing "999" for what may of only been a cold or flu, maybe she hoped things would improve! at the same time was worried!

Afterall the GP's Receptionist showed NO Concern!!,..

Leaving the Mother,,'feeling a mug' and 'Stupid'!

Why would she phone "999" to be told the same again,? would be her thoughts!

Soo go phone "999" for your sore finger!
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 01:17:10

OH & BTW I will find link to "Madman" NHS abuse "999"

And will show ya, incase ya missed what goes on!
5

HarderTruth,

29/05/2008 01:32:52
If the mother is more concerned about how she herself appears to the outside world, rather than putting the health of her child above self image then the child has no hope anyway.
6

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 01:43:41

D'oh ye 'dinny' Understand!

Mummy would of NOT Phoned GP in the first Place if she didney care a 'HOOT'!

Dinny argue with ME! ye canny WIN this time!

What Charles Say's is 101% correct!
7

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 01:53:56

Sorry folks, what should be a serious topic, but some don't understand and comment likewise. hence required info below!

http://news.scotsman.com/nhsdentistry/Hannibal-jumps-AE-queue-for.3356503.jp
8

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 01:59:50

And Next,..

http://news.scotsman.com/edinburghroyalinfirmary/NHS-bosses-bid-to-keep.2834496.jp
9

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 02:11:43

All this and a Baby Dies in their Mothers Arms Because Mummy cant access her Local NHS GP because of Rules, all that was 'needed' was a Doctor that Mummy believed was there to help her with her Baby, as a family GP was no longer available, even though she phoned in the GP's working hours,

How disgusting that 'Toothache' gets priority!
How disgusting that 'Picking up a Phone and giving advice, is less important than spending £18,000 on nonsense and NOT saving a Baby's Life!
10

Tatties ower the side,

Johannesburg 29/05/2008 05:37:37
Hmmm.... 7 posts out of 9 is the on-line equivalent of talking to yourself, Charles!!!!!
11

Boy Wonder,

29/05/2008 08:19:58
Didn't I warn you all about Charles?? I told you all constantly. And here is the result ...

94 year-old senile serial poster terrorises online readers of the Hootsmon!

He really should get back on to his meds, but his DYW has not been too well with the fertility treatment. Cut the old guy some slack ... or he might roll over you in his bath-chair!
12

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 29/05/2008 08:21:34
How can you go down from 300 to 350?? My eleven plus did me well then!!!!
13

S'me,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 08:28:29
What an embarrasing load of comments on a serious subject... can't bare to even add any rational contribution.
14

Dr JS,

Aberdeen 29/05/2008 21:15:11
Charles Linskaill, I really dont know what service you recieve in Edinburgh, but I can sure you tell you this laddy... Any mother with a sick child (or query re. a sick child) will get to talk to a triage doctor at my surgery. Your posts are so unrealistic I dont know whether to laugh or cry. There has been a massive campaign regarding parental education about the signs of meningitis.. hence the universally known tumbler test. Your example above would warrant only an emergency admission and anybody would know that.

How about this scenario

Baby Child takes unwell at say 1650hours, sick, high temp, maybe a 'Funny Rash'!

Mother phones GP: "can I bring Baby to see Doctor I am Worried!"

GP receptionist puts call through to on call duty doctor who advises mum to call 999, or as is the case in many of my patients , phones 999 himself on the patients behalf.

If you mess up as a medical professional something as obvious as the scenario you have posted, quite rightly you would be tried in a court of law, and more than likely never again allowed to practice medicine.



15

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 23:40:57
Dr JS, @#14,

Well either you talk in past times, as I know, help was at hand 'NO BOTHER' say 20years ago, but this is NOT the case now!

Further more! Do you think I post on medical subjects just for fun,?

NO Sir! for your information all I write is from life long experience's and all too many of the subjects I write about sadly come true or are true!

"MENINGITIS"!!

Do you think I am stupid,?

I am only all too Aware of this dreadful illness and its severity, try putting my name into Google followed by "MENINGITIS" and you will see I don't take this subject lightly!

Doctors working as GP's work from 9am-5pm or there abouts theses days, surgery closes at say 5.30pm and thats the (maybe help) gone.

"GP receptionist's" you know aswell as I do, they are there to in most cases "vet you" from seeing a GP in the first place.
16

Rindo,

30/05/2008 09:47:43
I thought stupid was perhaps a bit harsh, but then I read "Doctors working as GP's work from 9am-5pm or there abouts theses days, surgery closes at say 5.30pm and thats the (maybe help) gone."

Putting aside the fact that the parentheses don't quite make sense, you surely do not beleive just because you own GP is off duty there is no medical support available for his patients? There are out of hours GPs, a telephone advice line, 999 paramedics and A+E departments. Or do you suggest that one person should remain available 24/7?

 

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