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Comedy gang of four in cultural revolution



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Published Date: 20 March 2008
THE big four venues at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe are to team up to promote their own separate comedy event this August, The Scotsman has learned.
The new Edinburgh Comedy Festival will be jointly programmed by the Assembly, Pleasance, Underbelly and Gilded Balloon venues and will have its own brochure.

Fringe insiders say the move is the most significant "breakaway" in the history of the world's biggest arts festival.

Although all the shows in the new festival will still be featured in the Fringe programme and tickets for them will be available through the Fringe box office, sources say this year's move is being planned as a "precursor".

The four venues describe the joint programme and the creation of the new comedy festival as "marketing tools". However, it is understood they hope to land a string of big-name sponsors.

The Scotsman understands the moves have been bitterly opposed by the Fringe organisation, which fears the venues could pull out of the official programme and the Fringe box office as early as next year.

One source said: "There's no doubt that's what these venues have got in mind. These are the first steps. Having a joint programme is one thing, but promoting your shows as the Edinburgh Comedy Festival is something else completely. It's unfair on audiences and unfair on other venues."

One leading Fringe figure, who asked not to be named, said: "This is about setting up a festival within a festival and is potentially very divisive. Anybody who genuinely cares about comedy doesn't try and own it."

Jon Morgan, director of the Fringe, said: "The Edinburgh Comedy Festival is part of the broad mix of comedy, theatre, dance, musical theatre and music at the Fringe. I would encourage audiences to experience the incredible range of work across the whole Fringe."

The Pleasance director, Anthony Alderson, said the group was not yet in a position to announce its plans.

Tommy Sheppard, director of the Stand Comedy Club, said he had been approached by the group but declined to get involved. "It's very much a breakaway thing," he said. "It's a great shame they are taking such a divisive attitude. I know they're trying to form a cartel to lever more sponsorship."

He said he understood the venues were seeking £650,000 for a title sponsor.

A spokesman for C Venues, a leading group of venues, said: "We're aware the four biggest venues are planning a joint programme, but we had no idea they were talking about promoting a new comedy festival.

"We're in favour of any initiative that increases the advertising and promotion of events on the Fringe, but only on condition it is spread across all genres, and not just one art form."

The Fringe charges for each entry in the programme and takes a cut of all tickets it sells through its box office. This year's "breakaway" is expected to provide the first serious challenge for new Fringe director Jon Morgan, who only took on the job last June.

A spokesman for the four venues said an announcement would be made in the next couple of days.

A FEW FRINGE BENEFITS

THE Festival Fringe was set up in 1947, the year the Edinburgh International Festival was launched.

Six Scottish companies and two from England turned up in the city uninvited and decided to fend for themselves.

Last year's event saw more than 1.6 million tickets sold, generating over £10 million at the box office, smashing all previous Fringe records.

In comparison, the 1997 Fringe saw 776,000 tickets sold.

The Fringe organisation itself has just 13 full-time staff, but during the three-week extravaganza every August this jumps to around 120.

The 2007 Fringe featured 31,000 performances of 2,050 shows in 250 venues

An estimated 18,626 performers were on stage.

Theatre makes up about 31 per cent of the programme, with comedy roughly the same. Music is the next largest element, with 17 per cent.

The Assembly Rooms, the Gilded Balloon and the Pleasance have long been the three biggest venues on the Fringe, although the Underbelly has emerged on the scene in the last five years. Between them these four venues account for just under 50 per cent of all tickets.

Among the big-name comedians to cut their teeth on the Fringe have been Al Murray, Lee Evans, Dylan Moran, Steve Coogan and Frank Skinner.


The full article contains 742 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

20/03/2008 02:15:12
I think this is fair enough. These people stopped being the Fringe ages ago and are a commercial festival of their own. They need to keep out of the Fringe programme, and ideally shift the timing outside the Fringe timetable - even better, move out of Edinburgh.

That could revive the Fringe to what it was - a lot of theatre and plays and shows in which you might find rubbish and brilliance on the same day but you didn't go the big halls to find it.

To me, the Fringe used to be a day out where you saw a performance about Emily Dickinson at 10am, then a Futurist play, then something by Gay Sweatshop, then some chips, then some miners' wives' production of the Battle of Orgreave in a school classroom, then some more chips, then a play with the guy who used to play Dr Finlay on TV about a salesman in a disco, then off to see Russell Hunter in Stockbridge and back to Waverley for the last train home. We never crossed the portals of the Assembly Rooms.

Now it all seems to be comedians off the talk shows wanting tons of money to do the turn we've all seen before. Bring back the real Fringe and kick the comedians out.
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20/03/2008 03:42:25
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jdships,

20/03/2008 08:01:26
2 Fifi la Bonbon

Maybe I'm old fashioned, traditional or whatever but I agree with all you have written .
Especially this para !!!!!!!
"Now it all seems to be comedians off the talk shows wanting tons of money to do the turn we've all seen before. Bring back the real Fringe and kick the comedians out."
The Fringe comedian "circuit" has become boring
4

Morphis,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 09:05:21
Its about time that these "Give us yer money" parasites were booted out of Edinburgh. They have become mere commercial enterprises and have little care for the spirit of the Fringe Festival!
5

The BigYin,

20/03/2008 09:08:01
This is trying to destablise the Fringe whilst to cashing in on the punters who flock to Edinburgh for the event.

It is easy for the Council to boot Burdett-Coutts out as they should have done decades ago when he was in huge rent debt to the council as reported in these pages.

Burdett-Coutts is without doubt a chancer.
6

donald,

glasgow 20/03/2008 09:08:22
Fooks, Alexander, Baillie and Stephens?
7

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 09:17:21
Glad to see Tommy Sheppard retains his integrity in all this. Hijacking a festival developed over decades for own ends is not on.
8

Deighan,

20/03/2008 09:37:47
These guys are only doing what The Fringe should have done years ago and I'd guess they are striking before The Fringe gets its act together.
As Fringe insiders they realise that The Fringe belongs to everybody and that they (the gang of 4)can do what they like.
As a gang of 4 there will be much bluster but they won't be brave enough to create a real new event or to branch out properly on their own - they just want and need to ride The Fringe momentum and to pull in the shekels while they do because that is all it is about.
The Fringe is bigger than them and any money they finagle with this kind of underhand doubledealing will bring them no karma.
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20/03/2008 09:58:18
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Concernedview,

Marchmont 20/03/2008 10:27:02
Good to see Tommy Sheppard jumping on the bandwagon. It's alright for him to have the Glasgow Comedy festival with its Paramount and Magners sponsorship but it's not alright for Edinburgh. Double standards?
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AnnieLou,

London 20/03/2008 13:18:59
Tweedmouth and Morphis I couldn't agree more! I struggle to afford Fringe prices these days and its all to do with these bully venues hiking up prices and killing the heart of the Fringe . . .
12

Andrew Allan,

20/03/2008 18:26:18
The Edinburgh festival fringe has been the best of its kind for years and years, and now the film festival, the oldest of its kind,and the comedy section want to go on there own. Look at these events say in about ten years time, just two ordinary events, and an Edinburgh festival with its heart ripped out, with less and less people wanting to travel to it.
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Tom Cambeul,,

North 21/03/2008 01:42:49
I was caught, once, in the Freak festival. NEVER AGAIN!!!

 

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