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Britain's multi-billion-pound CCTV network 'an utter fiasco which has failed to cut crime'



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Published Date: 07 May 2008
BRITAIN'S network of CCTV cameras has been branded "an utter fiasco" for failing to cut crime, despite billions of pounds being spent on it.
Detective Chief Inspector Mick Neville, who is in charge of closed-circuit television for the Metropolitan Police Force, claimed only 3 per cent of the capital's street robberies are solved using security camera footage and criminals are not afraid o
f being caught on film.

The UK has the highest level of camera surveillance in the world, according to civil liberty groups and security experts, with an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras on buildings, shops, roads and stations.

Mr Neville told the Security Document World Conference in London: "CCTV was originally seen as a preventative measure. Billions of pounds has been spent on kit, but no thought has gone into how the police are going to use the images and how they will be used in court.

"It's been an utter fiasco."

His comments echo a government report last October which said most CCTV footage is not of high enough quality to help police identify offenders, with many cameras focused on enforcing bus lanes as well as stopping crime.

The report said anecdotal evidence suggests more than 80 per cent of CCTV images supplied to the police are not up to scratch.

Mr Neville, who is head of the Metropolitan police's division on visual images, identifications and detection, is now leading an initiative to increase conviction rates from CCTV.

He aims to set up a database of images to track down offenders and to put pictures of suspects in crimes such as muggings and rape on the internet.

Mr Neville said the work "has to be balanced against any Big Brother concerns, with safeguards".

Work is under way to ascertain whether software can be developed to perform automated searches for suspects on footage, while Mr Neville said officers needed more training on using CCTV, with many being put off because "it's hard work".

Last night, a spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said the force "does not consider that CCTV has failed".

He added: "CCTV is an important tool in protecting the public both as a deterrent and in the investigation of a wide range of crime, from minor offences to terrorism."

Assistant Chief Constable John Pollock, of the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland (Acpos), also gave his support for CCTV.

He said: "Acpos fully supports the use of CCTV and stresses its important role both in the prevention and detection of crime in protecting our communities.

"Recently reported comments of the effectiveness of CCTV paint a view not reflected by experience in Scotland, where police forces actively use evidence gathered by CCTV whenever possible."

A spokeswoman for the Scottish Government said it would continue to use the system in crime prevention.

She said: "This government is committed to making our communities safer by tackling crime and the fear of crime.

"Clearly, technology such as CCTV systems can have a role to play in helping to achieve this, and is a tool used by the police to investigate crime, gather intelligence about problem areas, monitor crowds and tackle antisocial behaviour.

"We are currently working on research to give better information on the coverage and use of CCTV in our communities."

The spokeswoman added that the government was working to put more than 1,000 additional police officers on the streets to tackle the drink, drugs and deprivation which are the underlying causes of crime.

The Scottish Government's CCTV review is due to be completed in July. It will examine how many cameras are in use and the system's effectiveness in deterrence, detection and evidence gathering.

SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM WITH WARTIME ROOTS

THOUGH considered a phenomenon of the modern age, the origins of CCTV cameras can be traced to the Second World War.

They were first developed to allow German engineers to observe the launch of V2 rockets.

In the UK, CCTV, though initially used for security by banks, was developed on a larger scale in response to IRA bombings. Trial programmes carried out by the government during the early 1990s led to the report "CCTV: Looking Out For You", which paved the way for the massive increase in the number of CCTV systems installed.

The proliferation of cameras has led to claims that public civil liberties are at risk. However, authorities claim they are an effective tool in fighting and deterring crime.



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  • Last Updated: 06 May 2008 9:55 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Guga II,

Rockall 07/05/2008 02:57:26
So, despite the New Labout Sleaze and Corruption Party turning us into one of the most spied upon societies in the world, it has done nothing to curb crime.

Of course, their proposed ID Card and database system will help bolster their attempt to spy on the general public, but, again, will do nothing to prevent crime.

It's time we got rid of these Stalinist, totalitarian control freaks that want to control every aspect of our lives.
2

A Better Way,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 05:09:52
The older I get, the more I realise how many Governments do the same thing as those that went before them.

When is Scotland going to get back to the basic commonsense place it used to be. Yes I know that we are going to be Independant, no doubt about that, but what I am talking about is when are we going to actually listen to proposals by vested interests, Liberals, Right and left winger nutters, and New Slavour hangers on before we slap them in the face and tell them to shut it.

No matter how people tend to say that things were a lot more simple then, well sorry it wasnt. When it comes down to it, we have created a monster, that we call good government. Well sorry I think we actually just created an industry that should be BIG Government.

When we are fully Independant and control our own country, we need to sit down and agree to keep government lean and mean. Government is merely there to enable the individual to be their best. It sounds like a simplification, but if we all do our best no matter what that level is, we cant go wrong.
3

GraniteCity,

07/05/2008 07:39:09
Surely 3 percent of street robberies being solved by CCTV is 3 percent better than a big fat zero. Ask the victims of this 3 percent, I'm sure they are grateful. However I do think CCTV is a bit of a red herring and how many 'live' crimes are actually prevented when security people monitoring see them happening. Get plenty more bobbies walking the streets so that when something is spotted as kicking off on CCTV then they are only a few streets away from responding.
Its always amazed me that they installed them the length of Union St in Aberdeen yet even in broad daylight some innocent person can be set upon by a pack of scum.
4

Proximaking,

Dundee 07/05/2008 07:39:42
Well I agree with "A Better Way" but I needn't think there is much to worry about, after independence we won't be able to afford to have people sitting about idle in their houses whether on an estate or in parliament allocating money they simply don't have due to the disaster that is the world financial system. The worst is over? Don't you believe it. The story here was about cameras in any case and cameras have one failing, they can't go back after the fact and follow someone back through pattern to see who stuck the knife in their back, or raped them, or stole a packet of crisps that disappeared from a shop counter. No to have such a technology we'd have to live in a conceptual reality as concepts aren't constrained by what we used to call "time" but do we really want to live in such a society where everyone is completely free, no police, no armies, and no lawyers? Remember you see this screen and can touch it only because of the concepts of electricity, light and spin, ...... you are already living this zero-dimensional conceptual reality that mimics 4-D. Want to know where Madeleine went? Then just look. Did you know the pattern equations for "matter" and "anti-matter" components are identical but with different signs just as the old way of looking at it they were identical by reversing the time components? Sounds like Nature isn't trapped in the here and now as we are at the moment, Nature already knows what could conceivably happen tomorrow though we will never know of course until we choose which option to follow but that doesn't stop us from seeing where we and Madeleine have already been. Our lives are as surfers on the wave of "the now" and when we die we fall from the surf-board but what if we could be picked up just after we fell off, just after we had finished choosing in that part of the game? Here the game could continue for you if we learn how to do it, the clues are all there if only you care to look. http://www.bloggernews.net/112924 http://www
5

Proximaking,

Dundee 07/05/2008 07:40:18
Our lives are as surfers on the wave of "the now" and when we die we fall from the surf-board but what if we could be picked up just after we fell off, just after we had finished choosing in that part of the game? Here the game could continue for you if we learn how to do it, the clues are all there if only you care to look. http://www.bloggernews.net/112924 http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm

All about cameras that can't be switched off, everything you have ever done or will ever do has been recorded, but when you look back judge only the one you are worthy to judge, ...... yourself. lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
6

Boy Wonder,

07/05/2008 09:21:42
Well who didn't see this coming??

The cameras apparently!!!
7

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 07/05/2008 11:44:19
8 Boy Wonder

Very droll. Thank you.
8

Ron S,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 12:22:20
"...Though considered a phenomenon of the modern age, the origins of CCTV cameras can be traced to the Second World War. They were first developed to allow German engineers to observe the launch of V2 rockets."

Rubbish, Craig Brown. Do your homework.

On 26th January 1926 in the loft rooms at 22 Frith Street, scientist John Logie Baird first demonstrated the first television machine. In the presence of the Royal Industrial Society, the Scot successfully transmitted moving pictures of his distinguished guests from one room to another.
9

ddmc,

07/05/2008 12:43:38
#10 that's where the 'closed circuit' part comes in, it uses a cable (normally coax) to transmit pictures between 2 points instead of chucking it out on the airwaves like telly.
10

Ron S,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 16:05:27
#10 ddmc
I thought that Baird's earliest experiments such as this were wired point to point, but maybe I'm wrong. Certainly Baird sent a "cable" television transmission 438 miles from London to Glasgow in 1927, using the telephone line. CCTV a lot earlier than WW2, which is my point. Incidentally, there are some 78 rpm disk recordings of the 30 line 'video' signal which look amazingly good. http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~nroberts/article30line.pdf
11

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 16:26:46
I wonder when they are going to wake up and realise that speed cameras don't save lives? In fact the do the opposite.

But of course, they make money, whereas CCTV cameras do not.
12

John Blackley,

Florida 07/05/2008 18:41:53
A government-inspired technology initiative that's "been an utter fiasco."? Shocked, I am! Shocked and horrified!

A big part of the problem is that the millions upon millions of CCTV's are not in any way part of a whole. When some Rodney decided to put up a camera in a town centre and bruted it about that doing so was a marvellous whiz "as it would keep those working-class chappies in their place", every other MP-wannabe in the land jumped on the bandwagon (possibly all-the-while telling the local rozzers how lucky they were to be getting such spiffing technology).

No thought given to the definition needed to be useful to the police. No thought given to how CCTV pictures would be used as evidence in court. No thought given to systems for image enhancement, storage and matching.

Still, I suppose I ought to be grateful that this is happening in Britain. Think how frightening such technology would be in the hands of a competent administration.
13

James Davies FVAG Ltd,

UK 08/05/2008 21:00:03
The comments made by Detective Chief Inspector Mike Neville will be echoed by officers through out the country.

Due to a lack of standards within the CCTV industry, Police officers are faced with huge difficulties in trying to retrieve footage from CCTV systems.

Police officers and the criminal justice system need to be provided with the information they desperately need to help easily and efficiently retrieve evidence. The Evidence Ready CCTV Standards Scheme will help arm officers with this vital information and help make CCTV the deterrent it should be.

James Davies

Forensic Video Analysis Group
http://www.evidenceready.com

 

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