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Britain tunes in to new tennis sweetheart



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Published Date: 07 July 2008
SHE was born in Australia, her parents are Australian, her early childhood was spent in Singapore and her coach is Dutch. But Britain is claiming her.
Laura Robson may be just 14, but her victory in the junior Wimbledon singles championship has sparked massive interest and expectation in a nation starved of tennis success.

Before the weekend the public may not have heard of "Miss L Robson" (as the Wimbledon scoreboard formally termed her) but she is no stranger to SW19, nor her family to the sporting world.

Born on 21 January, 1994 in Melbourne, Laura lived her first 18 months in Australia before moving to Singapore with her family, where her father Andrew, an oil executive, was posted for four years.

She picked up a tennis racket at the age of three for a knockabout with her brother Nicholas, now a 16-year-old professional swimmer, and sister Emily, now 23. By the time she reached London at the age of six and a half, her talent was already obvious, said her mother, Kathy, herself a former professional basketball player for Australia.

By the age of nine Laura had been snapped up by agents Octagon, though more than ten other agents were eagerly watching one of her Wimbledon matches last week.

She entered the tournament two weeks ago ranked 36th in the world, a career record of 48 wins and 14 losses behind her. Now she's said to be worth up to £5 million a year if she continues her winning ways.

But both mother and daughter insist their feet are firmly on the ground. Laura and her family live just five minutes from the All-England Club and she is home-schooled to allow her to train for up to five hours a day.

The 5ft 7in left-hander is preparing for her GCSEs, learning to play The Simpsons theme on her saxophone, riding horses and cooking.

Yesterday, the BBC revealed that one million more people watched the final of the junior singles than saw Venus defeat sister Serena in the main draw. Bookmakers William Hill slashed the odds on Laura winning the seniors title at Wimbledon by 2020, from 50/1 to 10/1.

The figures are indicative of the desire, perhaps desperation, to see a home champion. Not since Annabel Croft took the junior title at the age of 18 in 1984 has a Brit walked from SW19 with a singles trophy.

Virginia Wade, the last British woman to win the senior title at Wimbledon, in 1977, said: "The media want to latch on to someone who shows great promise but this whole thing is what upsets the applecart with the British players.

"She's only 14 and has won junior Wimbledon, but I can see people thinking that if she gets into the main draw next year she's going to win it."

Carl Maes, the head of the women's game at the Lawn Tennis Association, is one of Laura's guides in the sport, along with Dutch coach Martijn Bok and Neil Sears, the father of Andy Murray's girlfriend, Kim.

Mr Maes said the coverage of Laura's win had been "scary". He added: "We do need to manage the expectations, and although we are desperate for a new star and this player is exceptional, there are no guarantees that in two years' time she will still be exceptional."

Publicist Max Clifford said Laura had the potential to make £500,000 this year alone thanks to her win, but

added: "The most important thing is protection, protection, protection. Don't try to build her up as the next tennis genius. She has made a wonderful start, but that's all it is.

"She's put herself centre stage of one of the biggest commercial sports stages in the world: tennis. In terms of potential, it's very, very early. She has a lot of learning to do."

Murray's mum wants to build academy for young hopefuls

JUDY Murray, the mother of Britain's number one player Andy Murray, wants to build her own Scottish tennis academy to help talent-spot stars of the future.

She has identified a site in Stirling that will consist of 12 tennis courts, including four indoor hard courts, four red clay courts, which can be covered in winter, four outdoor hard courts, four mini tennis courts and an artificial grass multi-purpose area.

Ms Murray first suggested the centre a year ago, in a project with Andy's former coach, Leon Smith, to be sited in Bridge of Allan, near Stirling University. The university already is the base for the Scottish Institute of Sport and offers indoor and clay courts at its Gannochy Tennis Centre.

The new centre would ideally be open in summer 2010, said Mrs Murray yesterday, and would be a "top quality coaching environment".

She said: "There's no question we have talented kids. All we need is a facility and the right people to drive it. There is a real shortage of tennis training facilities in Scotland. We will offer our own coaching programme for all ages and abilities.

"We will try to create a club atmosphere to encourage players to fulfil their potential as well as attract some of the best coaches in the country."

The announcement emerged just days after an official launch of what will become the UK's largest indoor tennis facility, to be based in East Kilbride, along with other sports facilities including a nine-hole golf course, opening in March 2009.

The full article contains 917 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 06 July 2008 11:33 PM
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  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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07/07/2008 00:44:19
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Fanling,

Switzerland 07/07/2008 02:11:00
Another media bandwagon about to roll. Laura Robson is a bright-eyed, photogenic, sweet and confident youngster who happens to be pretty good at tennis.

Headlines like "new tennis sweetheart" are like candles in the wind. Message to all the media: let this child grow and develop in the normal way. If she proves to be an even better player in the years to come, good and well. And I wish her well. Stupid headlines do not a career make.
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Guga II,

Rockall 07/07/2008 05:34:57
Not content with trying to claim Scottish players as "British", now they're trying to claim Australians as well. What a bunch of losers.
4

Watson,

Irvine 07/07/2008 06:03:21
British????? Don't you mean English?
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EWB,

UK 07/07/2008 06:32:18
According to an article in today's "The Age" (a Melbourne newspaper), Laura Robson responded to an Australian reporter with the answer that she was British. She did acquire a British passport recently.

Anyway, in 2006 the Australian of the Year was a male Scots emigrant and in 2007 the Australian of the Year was a female English emigrant, so what goes round comes round.

Doubtless, #3 and #4 would claim English-born Lesley Riddoch and Hardeep Singh Kohli, who write for the Scotsman or Scotland on Sunday, as Scots, so what's their gripe?

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EWB,

UK 07/07/2008 08:03:10
Riddoch was born in England and brought up in Ulster. Kohli was born in Hounslow, near Heathrow Airport, and came to Scotland as a boy.

Never mind: Lloyd George was born in Manchester, spoke Welsh and was known as the Welsh Wizard.

In other words, if Laura Robson, who only spent the first 18 months of her life in Australia and came to London when she was six, chooses to call herself British, then she is British. She'll probably be a better role-model for British tennis than Andy Murray, whose brother has a nice personality.
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Bigwull,

edinburgh 07/07/2008 08:16:09
Gie the lassie a break.
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The Batboy,

07/07/2008 09:15:36
LAURA Robson?? My ears must be going. I kept hearing FLORA Robson on the box all day! What a lovely tribute to the late great actress I thought! Either that or the commentatators can't speak English clearly enough!
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 09:28:33
Have the English media no shame! Trying to lay claim to an Australian talent. The poor girl's parents are also to blame, giving away her birthright just for the lure of English gold!!

Pathetic!
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Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 07/07/2008 09:51:16
Usual racist, parochial, bigoted nationalists around.
The lass has lived in the UK for 12 + years; she has a British passport (as do any Scots who bother to go abroad), she speaks with an English accent, has had an English education and shows the good-manners, easy grace and good humour of a future ambassador for British sport.
The 'true-blood-obsessed' natzionalists should wake up and smell the coffee.

Oh and try to persuade Andy Murray that people admire great sportsmen like Nadal and Federer - who were both calm, friendly, diplomatic and sportsmen to their teeth roots in their after match speeches last night; as were the Williams sisters the other day. Murray's absurd petulance, posturing and baring of biceps was just an embarrassment to Britain; hopefully he will grow up, mature and go on to be the great player that he has the potential to be - another ambassador for British sport.
Sadly, the wee-Scotland, parochial bigots will go to their tartan-lined coffins without ever achieving enlightenment. That we are all, truly, 'Jock Tamson's bairns' and borders on maps are not 'real' borders.
The real borders are only in your mind.
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EWB,

UK 07/07/2008 09:55:18
Come off it, #10. I bet you cheer on the Scottish rugby team despite all the New Zealanders etc who play for it. That's equally pathetic.

Australia has been enticing East European athletes to their country for years and getting them to appear for Australia and win Olympic gold medals for their adopted country. It's nice to think that it's not a one-way street.

Laura Robson is still an Australian citizen, though, since Australia granted dual citizenship to its citizens in April 2002. That is why she could become British yet remain Australian. Before then, an Australian would lose their citizenship by adopting another.

Tell me, #10, are you such a purist that you would not allow those born in England of Scottish parents to play football for Scotland, e.g. Gary McAllister?
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 10:14:33
#12,

The key to what you say is "Scottish parents"! That's a perfectly reasonable qualification.

Unionists like #11 always have to bring politics into the argument! They're now so paranoid, they have to attack any reasonable observations with snide remarks and insults such as "natzionalist"!

btw #11, she hasn't lived in the UK for "12+ years"! Try reading up on the subject before you spout your normal bullsh!t!
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Phil the Flooter,

07/07/2008 10:30:29
What a load of rubbish, that some of the narrow minded, wee Scotland, parochial numpties jump on to any forum to simply have a pop at the English. Why are you so obsessed? Do you notice how weak and pathetic you look coming out with this tripe 'The English did this the English did that'

What the hell does it matter, the girl done good. But if 'The Scotsman' persists in allowing its forum to allow some cringing whingeing Scots to get their wee chips off their shoulders then if that makes them feel better inthemselves thats a good thing.

PATHETIC
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Queen D,

Glasgow 07/07/2008 11:00:14
She is a lovely wee girl who played fantastic tennis and I wish her all the best!
I'd still like to know if she persuaded Safin to take her to the Champions Ball!
Great wee tennis player with great taste in men for one so young!
I do hope the media do not spoil her, do not tout her as a future winner, she has a long way to got yet and it would be nice if they left her in peace to travel that road in the safety of her family and the team behind her.
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 11:09:36
Some of these nationalists are so embarassing, continually using any opportunity in any article (however unrelated)to go on about sportspeople being 'bought for English gold' and 'claimed' as English/British.

As other posters have pointed out, I'm sure most of them still support the Scottish rugby team (with New Zealand and Aussie players) and the Scottish football team (with players born and brought up in England who happen to have a Scottish grandparent - e.g. Nigel Quashie.

Get over it - every country does the same with sportspeople nowadays so stopping being so hypocritical - until Scotland stops doing it with its own sportspeople stop critising other countries.
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 11:12:58
#15

"I'd still like to know if she persuaded Safin to take her to the Champions Ball!
Great wee tennis player with great taste in men for one so young!"

No she didn't - he thanked her for the invite but turned it down. I would think he's a bit old for her anyway.
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M & S loyal,

Lochwinnoch 07/07/2008 11:38:26
She should take a lesson from Rafael Nadal who after defeating Roger Federer acknowledged that Federer was still No.1, but Miss Robson when asked what would happen if she draw Venus Williams in next years Wimbledon replied "I'll take her down". In your dreams.
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Geoff,

sa 07/07/2008 11:56:36
Aren't "Australians" in reality mostly of Brit descent? So she has in a sense come "Home". Remember what the old Aus warhorse Sir Robert Menzies(aye) said "Iam British to my bootstraps but Australian through and through!"
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Murrayfield PR Office, set the lines jangling,

07/07/2008 11:58:29
hey AJ from Fife, you seem to have chips on yer shoulders about everything - class, nationality, you name it AJ is bitter about it.

I bet underneath your bunnet you've got little weasily eyes, a wrinkled little hootsmon face and a mouth like a dog's b*mhole.
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 12:00:08
#18

"but Miss Robson when asked what would happen if she draw Venus Williams in next years Wimbledon replied "I'll take her down". In your dreams."

She was JOKING - have you never heard of someone having a sense of humour? Of course she doesn't really think she could beat Venus Williams - are you so humourless that you can't appreciate a teenage girl making a joke? I think its a good thing that a sportsperson can have a sense of humour and make a joke such as that rather than the usual boring soundbites 'she's a great player' 'I'm not up to her level yet' etc. etc.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 12:03:24
Hi Geoff,

In a census carried out in the 90s, only 52% of the Australian population are now of so-called 'British' descent, compared to 85% in 1960! That old colonial pull, is rapidly losing it's relevance. About time too! The Constitutional monarchy is only surviving by the skin of it's teeth and it'll be ditched for good within the next 20 years! After that, the Australian republic will have grown into a proper country.

Surely as a South African, you can see the merits in this?
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07/07/2008 12:06:32
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Scottie,

South Africa 07/07/2008 12:07:26
Far too many young sportsmen and women are ruined by the publicity they get at far too young an age, anyone remember Tracy Austin? She wasn't the only one ...
Good lucky to this young girl, I hope she does well.
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Geoff,

sa 07/07/2008 12:19:51
22 AJ Fife-Hi AJ- My comments were sort of tongue in cheek. I know Australia is, like Canada now multicultural with the English language being the most enduring glue remaining.Also the republicans would have won the Aus referendum had the camp not been split. I think though that the concept of nationality based on any kind of ethnicity/birth place is also something that is rapidly evolving. A glance at the French football team or British Olympic squad for eg illustrates this. We live in a very different world - the so called global village where old cultures are giving way to hybrid cultures. This of course leads us into politically sensitive territory where honest answers are needed to the questions that arise!
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 12:21:34
23. If the people of GB want to know why the union is having a hard time,look no further than our vilious friend AJ.
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 12:25:54
If Miss Robson has no complaints,then why are the scots on their high horse,get over it.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 12:31:00
Betty Mk1,

Thanks, I do try!

Geoff,

The world is indeed changing, but in sport it's the lure of filthy lucre, which looks like the reasoning behind most 'defections' - Zola Budd, Greg Rusedski, Peter Nicol, Laura Robson, Alan Lamb, Martin Johnson etc
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Geoff,

sa 07/07/2008 12:35:49
AJ Fife-I dont think u are old enough to remember when we used to boo the badies and shout "Look out-behind you!" when somebody wa about to hit The Lone Ranger from behind at the "Pictures" but when I was a kid in Durban in the sixties everybody clapped when the Queen came on the Movietone News and booed when Verwoerd appeared!!
Don't know why I told you that?!?
Oh Yes-different World-half the Aussies are non-Brit-imagine that(says he moustache bristling!!)
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Geoff,

sa 07/07/2008 12:41:29
Elizabeth the First-Morning Liz!
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Geoff,

sa 07/07/2008 12:42:53
AJ-Not to forget the perfidious Kevin Pieterson!
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 12:44:24
Almost Geoff, but I remember going to the theatre with my parents in Dundee around about 1969/70 and having to stand to a rendition of the God Save the Queen at the end!

It stuck in ma throat as a wee nipper then, and it sticks in ma throat now! :)
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 12:46:28
Geoff,

Grahame Hick too!

btw, was Pieterson known as a bit of a nutter in SA? He seems a bit 'left field'!?
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Displaced Scot,

UK 07/07/2008 12:50:59
If this girl was born in Australia of Australian parents, then she is Australian and will have an Australian passport. That is if her parents have not taken out British nationality. Again if she had a grandparent born in Britain she would have certain rights. Anyway as an Australian she is from the Anglosphere and has more rights to be in the UK, than any Tom Dick or Harry from the EU.
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Geoff,

sa 07/07/2008 12:52:02
AJ-definitely clashed with the establishment here-may have been the reason for his exclusion from the Proteas alth affirmative action may have played a part."Bit of a nutter.." THAT hairstyle said it all altho he seems to have grown up a little since!
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Liz,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 12:54:44
I do not see what the problem is here. It is suggested that she has a UK passport and entered Wimbledon with British listed as her nationality.

No one seems to complain when the Scotland Rugby or Football teams are filled with English/Irish/Australians/New Zealanders/Fijians with "Scottish Grannies" so why all the fuss about this?

Good luck to the lass, she will need it if she gets the typical treatment from the press.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 12:57:47
Geoff,

I like Pieterson's style and I'd love to see him as England captain on a fulltime basis!:)

It has to be said, he's a great player and without a doubt, he's a loss to South Africa! However, I'm sure he'll be able to feather his nest nicely as a player in England!
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Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 07/07/2008 13:05:52
It is good to see a young Aussie doing well so far from home. As she is now over there it is a fair chance she is of Brit descent somewhere in the family tree. Remember the ancesters of many who claim Irish descent crossed to UK to claim British citizenship before immigrating to Australia. They conveniently forgot it when they got here and started agitating for a republic. Our present system suits the majority but politicians have huge egos and always want to be king. Some are already queens. Our system costs far less. Why pay for a president when the UK can pay for a monarch on our behalf.
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Drum Major,

Brisbane, Australia 07/07/2008 13:06:30
Goodnight.
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Baldred Neo-Bisset,

07/07/2008 13:10:14
AJ at #23 - you don't need to wonder too much about which Edinburgh public school as there is only on 'public' school in the city. Fettes.
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Baldred Neo-Bisset,

07/07/2008 13:11:24
sorry - 'onE' public school.
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07/07/2008 13:15:15
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Mercian,

UK 07/07/2008 13:20:30
Nadal is made up with Wimbledon, considering the event to be the most special of grand slams; may be we could persuade him to change his nationality to British...
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 13:38:40
#42,

Come on now, so it's OK for me to be insulted, but when I hit back(with interest) it's a big no no!!!



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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 13:41:43
30.Good Afternoon Geoff.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 07/07/2008 13:42:33
Born in Australia to Australian parents = Australian. End of story. Good luck to her, she's obviously a great player. Re the references to Scotland playing NZ & Oz born rugby players, they qualified according to international rules through Scottish family. No comments about all the non-English players who play/played rugby for England? (and they didn't qualify through family).
Zola Budd anyone???
That being said, leave the English to their desperation, we can all look and laugh at a' that......
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07/07/2008 13:42:52
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 13:46:12
36. Well said Liz,if Miss Robson wants to be British,that is her choice,we are proud to have her.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 13:47:42
#47,

It wasn't meant to be well received, but it got the desired reaction - outrage!

Mr Murrayfield makes a generalisation about me, so I make a generalisation about him! What could be fairer than that!
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 13:49:18
#34 'Displaced Scot':

"Anyway as an Australian she is from the Anglosphere and has more rights to be in the UK, than any Tom Dick or Harry from the EU."

What a ridiculous comment. Do you realise there are thousands of Australians of Italian, Greek and Balkan heritage, as well as thousands more of asian background? (not to mention the aborigines).

Are you suggesting that Australians have more right to be in the UK than people from EU countries? You really need to get your facts right before you start making nonsensical semi-racist comments.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 13:49:36
Betty Mk1#48,

She'll always be known as an Australian! You just wait and see, especially if her career goes down the tubes!
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 13:51:50
44. You don't insult,you make it as personal as you can,with a little bile thrown in for good measure, you then turn the most awful sexual assault into some kind of perverse joke.
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 13:54:32
51. By you maybe,the rest of us are happy to have her,come what may.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 13:56:25
#52,

True, that is my preferred method of attack and it gets right up the hoity toitys noses! :)
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 13:57:56
#53,

In two weeks time, you'll have forgotten the girl's name!
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 13:59:12
# AJ Fife:

You continually criticise this girl for 'giving away her birthright for the lure of English gold' and yet you haven't answered what you think about the 'Scottish' rugby team fielding naturalised New Zealanders and Aussies, or the 'Scottish' football team fielding English players who happen to have a Scottish grandparent.

Are you going to boycott these teams until they only field 'pure blood' Scottish players or are you a hypocrit who criticises other countries' for doing something but then still supports Scottish sports teams when they do the same thing?
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Joanna,

Cambs, England 07/07/2008 14:04:31
At least AJ of Fife is working his own land, so to speak. The 'patriotic' Scot on here who makes me laugh the most is the Exasperated one that lives in Guildford.

Bought and sold for English gold indeed!! :D
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:12:06
Yeah1,

I didn't criticise the girl, I criticised the media and her parents!

As for the Scottish Rugby team, well they're nothing short of a disgrace, but at least it's a marginalised minority sport and doesn't really matter! ;)

It's only my opinion, but I reckon to qualify for any international team, you should have at least one parent who is from the country of your choice! It would end the controveries, such as the Tony Cascarino situation with the Republic of Ireland and the Aussie and NZ rejects who have played for Scotland!
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:13:04
Joanna,

Thanks for that, I appreciate your input! :)
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 14:13:36
Joanna. How can you defend such a nasty piece of work?
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Peter Baleares,

Palma 07/07/2008 14:15:27
Come on AJ, take a chill pill, you are fine with anyone of any nationality adopting the birthplace of parents, grand parents,ect...but if we English do it, you`re `dooks` are up and the old English punch bag gets the same old a battering, mate, the `chip` is getting bigger?

Looking on the bright side though, Vinnie Jones opted to play for Wales, Mark Lawrence for the Irish Republic, and Andy Murray for Scotland (and despite have an English Grandfather) check that out, Mad, !!! :)
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:21:04
Hi Peter,

It was an English granny!

Scotland's No1 now knows where his real suport is, and it aint Wimbledon or the English based press!

No chips on ma shooder pal, I'm as big an English nationalist as I am a Scottish nationalist! In fact, England has a rich and diverse culture and it should be encouraged.
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 14:21:11
#58

"It's only my opinion, but I reckon to qualify for any international team, you should have at least one parent who is from the country of your choice!"

So are you going to boycott the Scottish football team until they stop fielding players with a Scottish grandparent, or will you still support them, but continue to criticise other countries for doing the same?
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Joanna,

Cambs, England 07/07/2008 14:21:33
Elizabeth @ 60

Because of the reason that I stated, I have very little respect for someone who chooses to live and work in a country which they so obviously dislike, it seems hypocritical to me. On the other hand, even if AJ does dislike England (which I doubt) at least he doesn't live there.

As far as this young tennis player goes, she has chosen to play for Britain, perhaps people should respect her wishes.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:24:11
Peter,

The latest 'aquisition' by the English media is only English because she once had a fish supper in Southport!

She's an Australian and should always be considered an Australian!

btw, where do you buy those "chill pills"?
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 14:25:45
Joanna. As far as this young tennis player goes, she has chosen to play for Britain, perhaps people should respect her wishes.

That is the problem here,aj doesn't seen to agree,he seems to think she will "always be known as the aussie".
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Liz,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 14:28:13
#46
"Born in Australia to Australian parents = Australian"

Not if (for whatever reason) she has a British Passport. It appears to me that she is choosing to be "British" and presumably fulfills some critera to be able to.

I am sure things would be very different here if she was claiming Scottish citizenship on the basis of a Scottish grandparent - then some of you here would be getting the St Andrew bunting out and telling us all how great Scotland is at tennis compared to the English.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:28:42
Yeah1,

The rules are the rules and should be changed ASAP by FIFA, however, I'd never boycott the 'true' national side.

Most of the guys brought in on the Scottish granny ticket turn out to be duds anyway - Quasie, Sullivan etc!
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 14:29:17
AJ. Stop seeing everything in black and white,sometimes there are grey areas,this young lady wishes to play for GB,what is your problem with that?
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 14:32:19
67. Liz,you should run for first minister,then maybe we could all work together for a change!
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:37:41
Betty MK1#69,

What 14 year old knows their own mind? She's been directed by her parents, as the potential income in the UK is much greater than Australia. There are plenty examples of this behaviour in the past, but what makes this seem blatently cynical, is the tender age of young Laura Robson!

What is a shame, the girl won't now be able to enjoy the tremendous resources that young Australian athletes have at their disposal. Instead she'll be exposed to the shambolic so-called 'British' coaching system. That could leave the girl's potential unfulfilled!
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Alfie the OK,

England 07/07/2008 14:43:49
Weren't those Scots icons, Rod Stewart and Gordon Ramsey both born in London, England?

46 - Zola Budd ran for Britain, not England.

And how sad is it that our great leader, Gordon Brown (you know, Great Brit' number 1) has insisted on airlifting his heavily pregnant wife up to Edinburgh so she can give birth in a Scottish hospital for each of his 3 kids?
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 14:48:04
#71

"What 14 year old knows their own mind? She's been directed by her parents, as the potential income in the UK is much greater than Australia."

I'm assuming you personally know her parents, based on your 'insight' into their plans? If not perhaps you should refrain from commenting on something that you have no direct evidence of.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:48:53
#72,

Rod the Mod had Scottish parents = true nationalist

Gordon Ramsay, parents? who cares? = kiss ass unionist
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 14:51:36
#73,

Fair do's, I should have added - "more than likely"!

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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 14:55:31
72. We all know Brown is the biggest hypacrite this side of hadrians wall,the sad thing is his English wife said nothing. Stewart and Ramsay are as English as you can get ,but pretend to be scottish for their own ends.
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Liz,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 14:58:05
#70
Ha! great idea, but sadly I was born South of the Border and I am sure there are plenty in Scotland (or maybe just these comment boards) who would make sure that this meant I was excluded (regardless of my parentage).

#74 AJ I do object to your regular suggestions that anyone who is not hell for leather supportive of Independence is is some way not "Scottish".
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 14:58:28
74. Oh well that's ok then. He was born in England,hence he is a Englishman.
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Peter Baleares,

Palma 07/07/2008 15:02:42
AJ, I thought he had an English Grandfather who was really good at tennis, and most other sports, apparently??

Look away Now AJ as I am about to mug yer girl off :)

Hi Joanna, why are you always brown-nosing AJ ? unless you have `Ros`e tinted glasses on, you cannot fail to have noticed that we English are not his `cup of tea`, and more of his fellow Scots seem to be offended and embarrassed by his constant anti-English slant on even the most innocent remark.
Even allowing for a huge tongue in cheek his remarks are offensive, which is a shame as I quite liked him!
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 15:03:26
77. LOL, Brown was born in Scotland but England has to suffer him!
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 15:06:03
79. Ex lovers maybe.
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Yeah1,

07/07/2008 15:13:17
#77

"AJ I do object to your regular suggestions that anyone who is not hell for leather supportive of Independence is is some way not "Scottish"."

Yes its rather worrying for the SNP that they seem to attract these bigots who go on about 'pure blood' Scots and people not being Scottish if they vote for another other than the SNP.

These viewpoints have rather scary similarities to those of the nazis, and their pure blood 'Aryan' race, where people such as Jews and gypsies were 'non pure' despite having been born in Germany.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 15:20:36
Peter#79,

I still like you.

I'm certainly not anti-English, but I do like to attack the perceived English/Scottish establishment, any English international sports teams, Westminster and the English/Unionist media! And of course, the Royal Family(I know they're a 'British' institution)!;)


This stance runs into problems when pro-establishment and unionist Scots get a bit chippy, just like most of the above hostile posters! Then honest English posters get caught up in the mud slinging....which of course, can be fun!

English people, in my opinion, are the salt of the earth.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 15:23:59
#82,

See post #83. Being compared to a Nazi, says more about your paranoia than anything else!

I suppose desperate times call for desperate accusations! A trend all to common, especially after the disintegration of the unionist parties in Scotland!
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 15:27:52
83. Back tracking AJ,have the decent people on this thread caught you out,where are methalions and ayreshire scot when you need them.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 15:31:01
Betty MK1#86,

Not backtracking, but stating the truth! You won't find me attacking the great English public...ever! This thread is an example! Go on, read all the posts and report back...
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 15:37:07
#88,

Do you think that's my angle? Well it's not, like Mr Salmond, I've nothing but respect for the English people and their culture.

Unionist Scots have to be converted, not kicked out(as if that would happen!).

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 07/07/2008 15:42:18
Hello Peter @ 79

Brown nosing? That sounds revolting!! :D

I expect Spain is in 7th heaven after the fantastic win by Nadal yesterday, what a great player. Now wouldn't it be something if we could find out that he had an English granny in his background, then we could claim him as a British player :D

The point is that like it or not the only British player who has won anything decent for a long time is Laura. She has a UK passport and I'm sure her parents only have her interests at heart, it is her choice and theirs which country she chooses to represent. As she has lived in the UK since the age of 6 she considers this to be her home. Are people really saying that she has no right here?

I just hope that she is allowed to progress at her own pace and that the media leave her alone. I wonder how many potentially, promising players have been ruined by media pressure.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 15:46:09
Err, Joanna, Scotland's No1 won the US junior crown a few seasons back, in 2004 I think!! Probably a greater achievement don't you think, than the young Australian's triumph this year?

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 07/07/2008 15:50:38
Well it was 4 years ago AJ... thats a long time ago in tennis!! :)

Also, think that for most players Wimbledon is the one they really want to win. Certainly it means a lot to the likes of Federer and Nadal, you only had to watch yesterday's match to know that.

Altho' tucking a few other Grand Slams under their belt is no bad thing either.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 16:04:51
92&93,

I suspect the average American would rather win their own tournament than good old Wimbers! Plus the young Australian only lives 5 minutes from the All England Tennis and Croquet club (or whatever it's called):) So it's was like winning a local club tournament for her!

Scotland's No1, on the other hand, had to rough it in a run down New Jersey hotel, with the threat of muggings on every corner!

Highland Mighty#93, remember the lass is only fourteen, before you cross the line!
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Raymond Thomas Brooke,

leven England 07/07/2008 16:05:32
you all can claim who you like for what ever nationality you are. The girl says she is British that should be good enough for any one. I personnally am English and definitely NOT British
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morris,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 16:05:47
This sounds a bit like Zola Budd again.
The girl is Australian and will never be anything else.

Singapore has more claim than we have.
As a few have mentioned they claim she is British at the moment,but I expect her to become "English" every time she wins a trophy.
We frequently adopt Kiwis into our rugby team,and whilst I welcome them and gladly accept that New Zealand's reserves are better than our first choices,they do not stop being Kiwis.Apologies to Sean Lineen and Co. I can understand that we are unlikely to ever produce a world ranking female tennis player,and this is very difficult for some people in The UK to swallow.Andy Murray has already been semi rejected because he would not declare support for an England football team.Why should he? He considers himself to be a Scot and thats what he is.he also did not declare support for Italy or France or anybody else as far as I am aware.
How can you sing Rule Britannia when you don't rule anything anymore,and cannot win anything?
The answer is you stop being an embarrassment and claiming world domination when the reality is you couldn't beat a carpet!LIVE WITH IT!We are rubbish and we should at least accept it.In some things we excel and thats more than adequate.It reminds me of the World Series in the USA. How many nations actually play this sport seriously?I count USA and Canada and they don't include Canadian teams!For World Series read USA champs.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 16:12:39
Morris#96,

I hear what you're saying, but "World Series" was the name of a publication that sponsored the competition, when it was initially set up!

Apart from that, I really like your post.
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elizabeth the first ,

07/07/2008 16:13:56
91. You just can't bring yourself to say "BRITISH",both Andy and Laura are "BRITISH" fact,now go and have a wee lie down,this has been an awful shock to your system.
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morris,

Edinburgh 07/07/2008 16:28:40
88 Highland Mighty...,


The SNP has never excluded anyone from living and being welcome in Scotland.Party policy is one of inclusion.I have however witnessed numerous cheap remarks from village idiots regarding Scotland's claim to nationhood as somehow being lesser than the claim of the United Kingdom.Now there we have something far worse than the non existent racism of the SNP. Its called British imperialism!

Many English people help run branches of the SNP and some even sit in the Scottish parliament. They are members for God sake! If the SNP was as you describe I think these people(who unlike you are actually members and in a position to comment) would have noticed by now.
You play the same record again and again but nobody is listening anymore.
Scotland's claim is one backed by international procedures and agreements of which the UK is a signatory,
Whether Scotland remains in the UK depends upon the majority vote. We leave when its the declared democratic wish of the people,we stay when it is declared so also.There is nothing about the SNP which requires apology in any shape or form.

What you see is what you get.The only porkies I have heard all came from Unionists who acknowledge the strength of the independence claim when they have to,but still say the opposite when they can.If they cannot tell the truth to their own people,then there is no way they are fit to govern any body else!

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 07/07/2008 16:30:36
Maybe the average American player would rather win their local event AJ.

But the great American players like Sampras, McEnroe and Connors gloried in their Wimbledon wins. It is the pinnacle of Grand Slam tennis whether you like it or not.

If Laura has lived here since she was 6 and holds a British passport I don't see how Singapore has a claim to her. Anyway, its up to her and her parents not anyone else. They want her to be British so thats it, end of story or to keep on subject: Game, Set and Match.
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Joanna,

Cambs, England 07/07/2008 16:33:16
And the 100th point goes to Joanna.
Joanna leads 100 games to love, new balls please!
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morris,

edinburgh 07/07/2008 16:35:42
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I stand corrected AJ and gratefully acknowledge your obvious expertise here.
Im still trying to understand cricket of course!

I doubt that many others will be so gracious or tolerant of my views as you are!
Slainthe Mhath.
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AJ Fife,

07/07/2008 16:36:07
Betty Mark1,

Not so, I've often referred to people being "so-called British"!

Don't you think it's a shame that a country the size of England have to 'hijack' other nation's sports stars? Maybe you should vent your anger at all the English sporting institutions that seemingly, fail consistly, to bring on English talent!
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Joanna,

07/07/2008 16:37:37
"I doubt that many others will be so gracious or tolerant of my views as you are!
Slainthe Mhath."


But thats only because they happen t