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Published Date: 06 February 2008
Pupil indiscipline is still a real concern in classrooms, says Ronnie Smith
THE issue of pupil indiscipline remains a real concern for teachers in Scottish schools, as well as for parents and most pupils.

Of course, there has never been a time when the behaviour of pupils did not exercise the minds of teachers. But why d
oes the problem seem to be getting worse. Firstly, schools reflect changes in society and many of the children we teach have increasingly complex lives.

Secondly, the Scottish Government's policies of inclusion and the presumption of "mainstreaming" pupils with, for example, behavioural difficulties have presented new and difficult challenges.

The EIS believes teachers have the right to teach and that young people have the right to learn in a safe environment. It is the responsibility of the Scottish Government and local authorities to meet these rights.

Of course, it is always the more serious incidents that grab the attention of the media and the public. Any incident of violence in schools is unacceptable and must be treated with zero tolerance.

Any pupil who resorts to physical violence against any member of school staff should automatically forfeit their right to remain in that school.

Thankfully, however, most pupil indiscipline takes the form of persistent low level disruption. But dealing with this is exhausting for teachers and frustrating for other pupils. The people who lose out most are the other pupils in the class whose rights are ignored and whose learning is inevitably damaged.

Teachers are working hard to try to improve pupils' behaviour, but they cannot solve the problem on their own. Parents have a vital role to play. There must also be improved levels of support from the Scottish Government and from councils.

Teachers must be supported to carry out their responsibilities. There must be clear school behaviour policies which have been agreed with staff, with the involvement of parents.

There are no simple solutions to the problem of pupil indiscipline. Like so much in modern school life, success depends on a cohesive approach to the problem at all levels.

Teachers, parents and pupils must work together to improve discipline in schools, and firm yet fair discipline policies must be developed, backed up by effective sanctions, including the right to exclude pupils for persistent poor behaviour.

Political and financial support from the Scottish Parliament and local authorities is also absolutely vital. We cannot tackle the problem of indiscipline on the cheap – it will cost money to introduce smaller class sizes and specialist behaviour bases both within and outwith individual schools.

It is these principles that, combined with additional resources, will help make progress towards achieving better behaviour in schools.

Ronnie Smith is General Secretary of the Educational Institute of Scotland



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  • Last Updated: 06 February 2008 8:50 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Schools in Edinburgh
 
1

Crank Parent,

Livingston 06/02/2008 09:27:40
Putting 20 or 30 children in a classroom setting all day every day and then expecting them to get on with each other just because they are the same age is not a natural way to learn. Children have different interests, learn at their own pace and in their own way. A fixed curriculum can't accommodate the majority of children at school. As a result many become bored or bullied. Children learn more and are more motivated in small mixed age settings like at HOME :-)
2

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 06/02/2008 09:37:01
Bring back the belt.
3

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 06/02/2008 11:29:01
2 Urban Guerilla

A radical approach and entirely feasible in some hardcore cases but good luck on that because it is not PC and the kids will sue the teacher anyway - or their parents will.

I have real sympathy with the teachers who have to endure insults, taunting, physical assault, etc.

It's a war zone out there and those who do not want to learn but just go to school to cause mayhem should be placed in special schools where they are strictly supervised and no b*llsh*t is tolerated.

Perhaps a litte clandestine and undetected physical "correction" - don't leave any bruises or cuts or scrapes - would teach these feral youths to behave in a manner acceptable to civilised folk.

But I am dreaming in technicolour, aren't I?
4

Calum Crubag,

06/02/2008 13:15:37
Didnae work, still wouldn't.
5

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 06/02/2008 14:19:53
#4, it did work.
6

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 06/02/2008 22:06:37
#2
My school had the belt. It didn't work - the kids (football casuals) just thought it made them look tough to get a couple of straps from a male teacher. Otherwise the class clown would just do everything to make a female teacher look stupid. But they were always given the choice of detention or the strap anyway.

Kids were bored because either the teachers didn't make the effort to teach the entire course syllabus (having a timetable of the weeks in which each topic was going to be covered would have helped). Some lessons (History) simply consisted of spending the entire time copying everything off the blackboard.
7

me150,

07/02/2008 09:52:49
The belt did work. You will alweays have the ones that are real chancers and 'casuals' but if you look at schools today there is a much larger proportion of kids prepared to misbehave. If the belt was back it WOULD deter the majority. Of course that won't happen because of EU human rights.

Also, how exactly is there meant to be teamwork on this or even improved resources when education is under attack from budget cuts and job losses. Each and every teacher, nursey nurse, classroom assitant etc will be having concerns for their jobs. Eventually when jobs must go, just watch the bitching and scheming start as they ALL NEED to protect their own future, mortgage etc.

Teamork....NOT!!!!

Give education the budgets required to reach the standards it needs to. More teachers, more schools, smaller classes. After all where will we be in 10 or 20 years when we have an even more undereducated workforce than we do at present. Oh sorry....we are a nation of hotel workers and telesales people, we don't need educated.

Soon we will be allowing even more immigrants into the country because they will be the only ones educated to an acceptable level, and at the expense of our own as the universities will be full of foreigners, as if they weren't already, because overseas students pay their own way at uni. No money here to invest so we will simply allow more foregners in to pay for their education. They will in turn take all the educated jobs in the country when we should be educating our own for all of our futures.
8

Calum Crubag,

07/02/2008 12:56:21
Most of today's problems are caused by adults who suffered violence, including the belt at school. Is more violence the answer? Should we extend this principle to adults who don't obey rule?

Should 4x4 drivers who park on disabled spaces get 'lamped'?
Should smokers in public places get a 'kickin'. On ssecond thoughts, maybe it would deter these folk?
9

Calum Crubag,

07/02/2008 12:58:04
In fact, why not just let the Sauds run our schools and society? Adulters stoned to death like it says in our bible? Great!

 

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