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Published Date: 30 November 2008
Death toll rises to 195 as siege ends and 610 captives rescued


The end of 60 hours of sieges across the city was reached only for fears to rise that the massacre could spark a new wave of violence between nuclear-armed India and Pakistan.

Some officials in Islamabad have even warned that efforts to fight the Taliban on the border with Afghanistan may have to be curtailed if provoked by India.

Commandos and rescue personnel were still searching for bodies in the smouldering Taj Mahal Palace hotel after the final battle inside when protesters gathered outside shouting anti-Pakistan slogans.

Away from the baying mob, the only captured gunman, a member of a Pakistani terrorist organisation, was being interrogated. Other details of the terror gang's meticulously planned attacks became clear after it emerged they hijacked an Indian fishing trawler and arrived on shore in dinghies.

As the last of the trapped tourists stumbled from their hotels, the death toll climbed to 195, with 295 people wounded. Some 610 people have been rescued from hotels and a Jewish centre. Rescuers fear the number of deaths could climb well above 200 as bodies are found in the wrecked buildings of the city.

At the main city hospital morgue, relatives came, clutching one another in grief, to identify their dead. Funerals, among them ceremonies for two policemen and a lawyer, went on throughout the day.

Pakistan condemned the assault as a "barbaric act of terrorism" and denied any involvement by state agencies.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said he would take "the swiftest of action" on any terror groups within his country.

But there were signs of mounting public anger over the attacks – most of it directed against Pakistan – after Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh hinted that elements from its rival may have been involved. Evidence was last night growing that had arrived by sea from Karachi.

Sriprakash Jaiswal, India's minister of state for home affairs, said: "Investigation carried out so far has revealed the hand of Pakistan-based groups in the Mumbai attack."

Protesters at the Taj Mahal Palace hotel shouted: "Our soldiers came and Pakistan ran away," pumping their fists skyward.

Pakistan's Foreign Minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, urged calm despite the pressure on the two countries.

He said: "These are sensitive moments. The situation is serious, let us not fool ourselves… when the people in India feel this is 9/11 for India."

But a senior security official in Islamabad said Pakistan would divert troops to its border with India and away from the Afghan frontier if tensions erupt.

The next two days would prove crucial to relations, a second official said. "If something happens on that front, the war on terror won't be our priority," the senior security officer said. "We'll take out everything from the western border."

That will alarm Britain, the United States and other governments with troops in Afghanistan, as Pakistan has about 100,000 troops in the border areas, and the army is fighting Islamist militants in several tribal regions.

US President George Bush yesterday pledged full support to India, saying the killers "will not have the final word".

India and Pakistan have fought three wars since gaining independence in 1947 and went to the brink of a fourth after a December 2001 militant attack on India's parliament that India also linked to Pakistan.

According to the reports, the gunmen wanted to go down in history for an Indian 9/11, and were also inspired by the bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad in September, one of Pakistan's worst bomb attacks.

Their targets, which included a café, were frequented by executives and tourists. They knew the layout of the Taj Mahal Palace and Trident-Oberoi hotels they hit, had commando-style training, and even had food supplies, such as nuts and dry fruit, stuffed in their backpacks.

Prior to the attack, the militants had taken over an Indian fishing trawler. The captain's body was the only one found on the boat – he had been tied up and his throat cut.

The boat was found abandoned near the Mumbai shore with GPS equipment and a satellite phone on board. Police and intelligence agencies hope a log of calls will reveal their movements amid reports that one call was made to Pakistan.

The gunmen landed from the boat on rubber dinghies and the subsequent bloodbath started with an attack on the main railway station that killed nearly 50 people.

Scotland Yard has now joined the search for the terror mastermind behind the Mumbai massacres.

Agents from the FBI are also expected to co-ordinate efforts to piece together the sequence of events leading up to the bloody sieges.


The full article contains 796 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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1

Josiecamp,

San Francisco 30/11/2008 03:58:36
Agents form the FBI are also expected etc.. As an American I can only hope that this report is wrong.
Keep them away from anything to do with this investigation unless you want a real screw-up. Our FBI
uses a sledgehammer to crack a peanut.
2

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30/11/2008 05:11:15
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30/11/2008 06:21:45
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POSTMARK,-55,

China, 30/11/2008 06:28:53
Don't dig too deep, you may well find out that it is the CIA having something to do with all of this just to keep the war on terror alive.
The FBI also has no jurisdiction in India and will only be there to cover up what really happened, Waco, Texas being a fine example of that.
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POSTMARK,-55,

China, 30/11/2008 06:31:36
#3 Gilmartin,
You can't ban all travel to a certain country just because of a few nutcases running around in that country otherwise we'd have a travel ban on anywhere in the world.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 08:17:09
I don't understand why we're expected to take sides in what is obviously a civil conflict between one militant group and the Indian government. Our priority should be the safety of our citizens-anything else is none of our business.
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POSTMARK,-55,

China, 30/11/2008 09:22:44
#7 Newton_Invented_Gravity,
If what you're saying is true then why do you suppose they targeted foreigners?
I highly doubt that this is part of a civil war but rather another attack on foreigners so as to show the West what will continue to happen if the West keeps interfering with Middle Eastern affairs.
I still think that it could be due to CIA involvement trying to keep the West in fear and justify the West being involved in the first place.
The old 'divide and conquer' routine has always been part of the CIA agenda and people fall for it time and again, hence the collapse of the Soviet Union, but it is rebuilding as we speak.
9

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 30/11/2008 09:47:10
7 Your comment will make sense when we leave Iraq and Afghanistan, cease our unqualified support for Israel, and mind our own business. Until then, the actions of our government have ensured that we have ''taken sides'', and we will continue to be a target.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 10:40:59
#8 They're targetting foreigners because when they target native Indians, the rest of the world isn't interested. These people crave maximum publicity. By targetting rich foreigners in particular, they also strike a blow against the Indian governments economy.
It's often said that 'all politics is local'. This is true for this issue. Yes, there is an international dimension, and these people may have some gripes about the USA or whatever, but ultimately, they wouldn't be taking this action and laying down their lives if there wasn't something going on in their own country that was really aggravating them.
11

carrottop,

Dumfries 30/11/2008 10:44:26

4# I have always thought you a prize prat of the Scotsman site, now I dont have to even think anymore.

Gosh its always the Americans fault.
12

oder,

Some where in Africa 30/11/2008 11:09:53
there will be peace when we leave Afghanistan and Iraq?

delusional at best!

"cease our unqualified support for Israel, and mind our own business."

which amounts to support for Islamic hatred against Israel and giving free hand to extremists to destroy the only democratic country in the ME.and for all you sympathizers who insists things will be better, look at Sudan were the holy of hollies rule where there are no FBI,CIA,MI6,or western involvement of any kind
Christians have suffered genocide at the hands of the government there for years, and now its the turn of the people in Darfur (who are Muslim) yeah! Dar el Islam (Land of Peace) for evil to succeed good men like you would do nothing not even criticize such actions!
similar to the rest of the moderate Muslim world Sudan is not a problem even Darfur which is Muslim does not cause reaction from them!the only situation the unites Muslims is their hatred of Israel!
and a wise man would know never support hatred.
13

Observer. 1,

Glasgow 30/11/2008 11:28:11
12 Were you foaming at the mouth when you typed that ?

Israel a democratic country, your having a laugh. Ask the Palestinians.
14

POSTMARK,-55,

China, 30/11/2008 11:33:07
#12 oder,
It's highly unlikely that you will see peace anywhere for long, it's against human nature.
What needs to happen though is that each country looks after its own problems and quits interfering everywhere else. You need to remember that when Kuwait was illegally invaded by Iraq the whole world came to Kuwait'd defence but 13 years later when the Americans and the British illegally invaded Iraq nobody came to Iraq's defence in that way. So what we're seeing now is a fall-out from that by these al-Qaeda type groups, that and the fact that the Americans are assisting the Indian government with nuclear technology whilst banning everyone else in the area of gaining and using such technology. The Americans have a long history in interfering globally and the British have a history of interfering that goes back much longer than that. Right now they're reaping what they have sown and the fruits of that aren't very pretty.
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POSTMARK,-55,

China, 30/11/2008 11:44:45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Sudan

http://www.geeskaafrika.com/sudan_17may05.htm

http://www.ganashakti.com/old/2005/051024/world.htm

#12 oder,
Please take a look at these links and many more and see the CIA and American influence in Sudan.
Please do a little more investigation before you start telling us what you think rather than what you know.
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Scimitar1,

30/11/2008 11:45:05
Of all the dystopic "stans" in the world this one is surely the worst. The international community needs to direct itself against the biggest sponsor of terrorist not just here in the UK,but across the world.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 11:51:21
#16 Is that nuclear armed Pakistan we're talking about? Or were you thinking of another one?
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should have gone to specsavers,

Thurso 30/11/2008 14:29:18
#4: "CIA having something to do with all of this just to keep the war on terror alive"

Get real, the war on terror showed no signs of dying out and this incident will probably help the taleban as pakistan diverts troops from fighting the taleban to deal with the threat of indian reprisals. Why would the CIA help weaken the enemies of terrorists?
If India retaliates against pakistan rather than specific terrorist groups the terrorists would be rather pleased with themselves.
On the other hand if India and pakistan were to cooperate against terrorists the taleban would be kicking themselves. (Not likely, I admit, too much blood under the bridge for both countries)
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Lynne,

30/11/2008 16:17:45
I think that when they dig deep enough, there will be a thread that leads back to Iran.
The Ayatollah has just claimed to be a super regional power-hegemony. This has been their goal all along. They fund and train terrorist groups and are now asking other Arab states for their cooperation and to join them in the nuclear power endeavors.
They are no one's friends.. they want to destabelize the area, so that eventually they will achieve the caliphate with them as the head.
21

oder,

Somewhere in Africa 30/11/2008 21:21:05
Observer. 1,Glasgow

not to sure I could be told anything about democracy from Palestinians or Arabs generally since none of them are in or have any experience with it! that now brings us to your question?

"12Were you foaming at the mouth when you typed that?"

No! I wasn't! where you when you read it? sure sign your a sympathizer!


14 POSTMARK,-55,China,

thanks postmark! but your not really in a position to advise me on British history in India or anywhere else for that matter if you would like to debate the Battle of Abraham Heights in your native Canada I will happily debate with you! having spent 30 thirty years in Africa there is very little on Africa you could surprise me with, you remind me of the Americans in the sixties when they saw communists behind every bush
you see Americans behind every tree and bush that exists today.


19 Rapman
"I reckon so, however I thing it was vomiting"

"reckon so isn't" is a fact its a guess! that makes you wrong! however your reaction would indicate that you really don't have an opinion, like most of the Islamic world the mere mention Israel has them spitting and vomiting hatred, you converted yet?
22

scuirle,

Derry 30/11/2008 22:33:09
I agree with you #11 - You'd think that #4 (postmark) would throw in one or two nations once in a while to lend some credence to his accusations. His prejudice is SO blatant that anything he says is laughable.
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portnoi,

Wetaskiwin 01/12/2008 05:27:47
Another tragedy, one of many.India has my sympathy in their great losses. We in the western world have largely been spared, but for how long? Terrorism has been around for a long time, Ireland,Omar Khadaffi and Etc, so-called ethnic cleansing. Why do humans hate those they don't know? Why must we fight rather than understand and negotiate differences? As to atomic weapons, how many countries have a Candu reactor with a promise not to use it for atomic bombs-Canada is not blameless.
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Lynne 1,

PBD 12/03/2009 12:40:44
Always a tragedy wherever you go.

 

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