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There's nothing at all funny about depression



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Published Date: 11 February 2008
STAND–UP comics are often prey to depression. Take John Cleese, Stephen Fry, Paul Merton, Tony Hancock, Kenneth Williams and Spike Milligan as examples.
It does seem that being funny in public equates to being sad in private.

My daughter Ashley went round a bunch of local comics in Glasgow asking them about their lives and deduced that the majority of them have had disturbing childhoods or horrif
ic incidents in their lives that led them into standing up in public and telling jokes.

I myself have never shied away from talking about my difficult childhood and sexual abuse, though I have never suffered from depression.

I am very lucky. It takes a lot to get me feeling down. I tend to deal with an issue in my own way and get on with solving the problem. Not everyone is so fortunate.

Being free from mental health issues is a wonderful feeling, especially when I read an article about the amount of comics who have become suicidal due to the pressure they feel.

People deal with life very differently. From what I understand about depression it can strike anyone at any time. It must be really debilitating and make a person feel so helpless that they can delve deep into their own dark hell. Suicide can be the result.

Depression is on the increase in Britain and the statistics show that this mental illness is affecting more young people than ever before – and yet the government is trying to get some claimants with depression off Incapacity Benefit.

Mental health groups are fighting this policy. The government is making sly assumptions that some young people coming forward with the condition are feckless work-shy scroungers and intend to question them further, to determine who really should be at work.

Depression is indiscriminate. It affects all classes, ages and ethnic groups in the UK.

People who suffer from this condition are unable to work. Though their limbs are fine for lifting boxes and their legs can manage stairs, the very thought of having to deal with the world outside their door can stop them from getting out of bed. That is disabling when it comes to holding down a job.

Self-esteem is eroded and the very core of your soul is shaken when a depressive episode takes hold.

My mother suffered from depression and that affected our whole family and the people who lived around her. Families are often torn apart and marriages suffer terribly when this condition takes hold. I recall coming home from school and being scared of her frightening moods. I was terrified she would harm herself.

Sir Winston Churchill called his dark depression "the black dog", yet he managed to contribute to society in the darkest times of the 20th century while suffering from his awful illness. No-one called him a shirker, nor did they belittle his condition.

The government should be supporting young people who suffer from depression and other mentally disabling conditions. We have thousands of young men and women currently fighting in war zones and the high numbers of military personnel who report back home with various mental issues will need this country's attention, not its derision.

David Freud, great-grandson of Sigmund Freud, is an investment banker who has been hired by James Purnell, the new Work and Pensions Secretary, to shake down the current system.

This is the man who saved Euro Disney and his idea is to get big companies to create jobs for people currently claiming sickness benefit and he will use a "carrot and stick approach" by paying the company money for keeping people in a job for more than three years.

That carrot theory might have worked with Thumper in Disneyland, but enticing companies with cash to get sick people to work is a false economy. Just pump the cash into the NHS and let the private sector decide who they want to employ.

My opinion is this: the majority of people claiming Incapacity Benefit through depression are going to be vigorously examined. The result of this scrutiny will be that some people will be refused Incapacity Benefit and shunted into a lower benefit bracket to save the government cash or they will be forced to take jobs through Mr Freud's scheme.

There are barely enough secure jobs for able-bodied people let alone satisfactory work for those who are living with depression or any other mental illness.

Depression is a killer. Ask The Samaritans. Ask the homeless charities. Just don't ask Gordon Brown. To him and his equally depressing chums – it's a myth.

• www.janeygodley.co.uk

Don't beat yourselves up about Valentine's Day

"WHAT are we doing for Valentine's night?" husband asked me yesterday.

"Arguing, probably," I sniped back.

"Do I have to organise dinner and buy you flowers?"

"Is that what you usually do on Valentine's night?"

"No," he answered. "But I thought, because you are working a lot this year, I had to buy you stuff."

"Well, since you put it like that, how can I possibly refuse such lovely sentiments?" "I have an idea," he suggested. "Why don't we fight now? And then, on Thursday, we can be nice to each other. That way, I won't have to buy you stuff and we can watch a whole season of Star Trek together."

"I have a better plan," I replied. "Why don't we fight on Thursday night. That way, you go to bed and I get TV."

It's great being in love.

Happy Valentine's Day, when it comes.

Smeato can go-go with the best

MY GUEST at the Bafta Film Awards in London last night was our favourite Scottish Braveheart, John Smeaton.

Both of us stepped down the red carpet, though I was just hobbling in my high heels as usual, while Big John was striding smart in his dinner suit. Every year I panic about what to wear, so a mate suggested that I go in tartan. I was horrified. I am small and fat – can you imagine me in a kilt?

I would have looked like wee Jimmy Krankie next to tall John.

A nice dress and a decent hair-do was the most I could manage to look anywhere near presentable. John was the most wonderful attentive party partner.

And, by the way, he can really move on the dance floor.

A go on Strictly Come Dancing should be his next project.

Smeato can throw some great shapes as well as punches.







The full article contains 1090 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 10 February 2008 11:39 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Janey Godley
 
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Boy Wonder,

11/02/2008 00:35:31
This government, like the Tory one of 18 horrible years before it, has jumped on the weaker, less able to defend themselves, sick, old and disabled in an attempt to "shore up" their flagging financial policies by forcing them "back to work". Mental illness, debilitating conditions and infirmity are just "excuses" to MPs. Yet the vast majority of these people are on benefits and living close to the edge poverty on less than 10k a year.
Recently, a sick friend of mine got a letter saying he's get a raise in his benefits. The difference between old and new amounts, was £1.50 A WEEK. That's the price of a loaf of bread and a carton of milk. Meanwhile, the Leckie company have raised the amount he must pay by £8 a month. Wipes out the raise, doesn't it. Even with the "bargain prices" they promised him ... and still increases what he must pay. And he must pay a percentage of his Council Tax. He has an incurable condition and has had two strokes. He can't work because of crippling arthritis.
Meanwhile, the rich have got richer and pay less tax.

I suggest that this government has gone past its sell-by date ... and we vote neither Tory, Labour OR Libdems into power in Westminster at the next election. Not until they give iron-clad guarantees that they will stop targeting the poor, the sick and the mentally ill.
I would further suggest that the "cheats" they go on about ... are a damn sight less than they would have us believe.
If the mark of a civilisation is measured by how we care for those who cannot look after themselves ... we fail miserably!










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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 11/02/2008 00:56:41
It was quite surprising to see many of the men talk about this subject, in a related topic on here the other day, in-fact its still in the health pages.
Maybe it was my 'mad-rant' that opened up the subject, all well and good I say!
For over 5years I suffered the..'dark-days' of depression, what made it worse, was the stigma of being a man, and not being able to talk to anyone about it.
'You-know'.....
Men not meant to have feelings,!
Men meant to be strong all the time!
Men aren't men if they are ill!

Sometimes, even today, I think we are treated as objects, rather than real people with feelings, I am NOT sexist and maybe got it wrong, but apparently this is not the case for women.
I, (I think) was only lucky, to have met my DYW at the semi end of my depression, the reality is if I hadn't met her, I would not be writing this today, I think I would have been a..'once-was'!

The other problem with depression, is that it never truly leaves you, albeit, never the way it was, it kinda lingers, but you learn the signs and fight it off.
On a closing note for now...

"Don't beat yourselves up about Valentine's Day"
What a strange topic to put on the same page as this!
For one! this would make you feel terrible if alone with depression, and read about Valentine's Day!
A little 'thoughtless' I would say!
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DrP,

Canada 11/02/2008 03:28:17
Keep talking about it Charles. There is no stigma. Only the ignorant believe that depression is a sign of weakness. It's a chemical imbalance in the brain. There is a deficiency of serotonin, and depression is a disease in a similar way to diabetes which is a disease characterised by a lack of insulin or a resistance to the action of insulin.
The trouble is that I can't even describe what depression is like to someone who hasn't been there.
Is that what it's like for you?
4

Mist001,

Marseille 11/02/2008 05:32:50
As I posted the other night, I have depression too. DrP said I should go out for a walk. I can't even leave the house! I know fully that I should be able to go out, go for a walk, go to the shops. There's absolutely no rational explanation why I can't. But there is something.

My son was born in November and everything was alright up until around Christmas and I realised I wasn't feeling right. We looked at everything and I semi seriously, I said to my partner that maybe our roles have reversed. Women are supposed to have post natal depression, not men!

A quick Google put me straight on that. I had never, ever heard of men suffering post natal depression, but I have now.

One look at the NHS Direct site, I have every sympton listed.

So, I got the phone number of a PND group in Edinburgh and am trying to work with them to get through it. The irony is Edinburgh is where I live!!

Depression is a living nightmare.

Michael.
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eric,

Lothian 11/02/2008 08:14:02
2 You are bang on about men.Showing feelings is seen as weakness.
I have an older sister and she is a nurse,We are a close family,And have great laughs,But when mum was ill with cancer ,I moved in with mum to nurse her at home,My sister stays out of town,She always gave the impression she was strong pushy type knew everything about anything,But for 10weeks i was alone dealing with mum ,Bathing cleaning etc etc ,When mum died.
The women in family came into room and walked passed me to comfort each other .I felt like a face in the crowd,It hurt more than mums death itself,I pointed it out that i hurt too,She hasnt spoken to me in 2 years since,men do have it tougher,I dont hate my sister,I forgive her,
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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 11/02/2008 08:42:39
Michael.@#4,
I am so pleased for you to be in-touch with the PND group in Edinburgh, that's a positive move to start with.
I think half the battle with depression is to be able to get someone to listen to you and understand what you are saying, there are some good people out there Michael so keep it going.
You have crossed my mind many times over the weekend, after writing about your newborn son and partner and I wish you well in getting better.
PND.! Soo what.?? MEN DO SUFFER FROM PND!!
SO DONT FEEL ASHAMED.!
This is one problem we men have, we are NOT meant to have 'Feelings' (or so we are led to believe)
Let me assure everyone, we do have 'feelings' and do hurt!
On the subject of PND, its slightly like, how I feel about 'not being able to conceive' (wife and I) at the present time, its like TBB (the baby blues)
Don't laugh anyone, its now ten years for us, and many a time, while alone, I cry about it!
But I wont let myself get into those 'dark days' of depression, because my DYW (darling young wife)needs me for her feelings about our dilemma and being younger than I (I think) it would be unfair of me, for her to be expected to know all my feelings.

DrP,Canada,@ #3,
"The trouble is that I can't even describe what depression is like to someone who hasn't been there.
Is that what it's like for you?"
Yes DrP, that is 'bang-on' people say, 'do this' 'do that'
We whisper 'yeah' or 'nod our head', but either cant listen, or just don't think the other person understands fully, maybe its our fault for feeling we cant just 'open-up' and let it all out!
Again is this a 'Man-Thing'?
(God at times, I hate being a Man)
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Friend-at-large,

USA 11/02/2008 09:02:08
A suggestion for those with mild seasonal affective disorder (SAD): Buy a Verilux type lamp. They come in two strengths. If you buy the $100 (50 pounds) item rather than the $200 item, you can place a mirror next to it, doubling the light. There, I saved you money which you can now spend on a therapist.

Hugs.
8

eric,

Lothian 11/02/2008 09:10:35
She is talking to a woman no doubt.
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joppa jock,

Huntingdon 11/02/2008 10:04:13
I have two good friends who suffer from depression. Every time we meet they have a fund of jokes to tell and outwardly are the life and soul of any party. However, if either slip back on their medication they are immediately plunged into gloom, and can quickly find themselves in the phsyciatric ward until they have recovered. Depresssion is a dreadful disease that has nothing to do with being a follower of a losing team or being a bit hard up. It's one of the main causes of suicide and should never be under estimated.
10

Gdgy,

dndy 11/02/2008 16:05:37
So many times deprssion, perhaps latent, comes to the surface after the birth of a child. So it was with me...
I'm better now but it is still there - at least now I don't have to take the pills.
Too true about Men not talking about it!
When I returned to work certain "men" really did not want to hear that I had been off with depression but I tried to make sure that people knew without becoming one of those who are defined by their condition....
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Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 11/02/2008 19:23:04
I see this subject is getting,...'short-shift' in this paper.

 

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