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Petrol bomb pensioner shows old gang hatreds die hard



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Published Date: 07 January 2008
"THAT'S the oven finally cleaned out," Auntie Katie muttered as she wrapped up her yellow rubber gloves and made a pot of tea.
Katie is my mate Patsy's auntie, and is a typical wee Glasgow pensioner who loves helping others and baking scones for the community. Auntie Katie loves cleaning ovens and doing anything domestic.

"She is a dab hand at the oven-scouring; we should
hire her out," I joked to Patsy.

Auntie Katie giggled. She is always immaculately dressed in beige and white, her hair is always permed and neat and she wears a lovely scarf with a bright brooch. She doesn't drink or smoke and seems quite prim.

"You know Auntie Katie used to be a Norman Conk?" Patsy spoke. Auntie Katie nodded her head in agreement.

"What the hell is a Norman Conk?" I asked.

"Well," Patsy explained, "the Norman Conks were a street gang from Norman Street in the East End of Glasgow and they used to fight with the Bridgeton Billy Boys. Auntie Katie would throw petrol bombs at the Protestants when they came back from the Orange Walk. Don't you know your Glasgow gangland history?"

Auntie Katie added: "I once threw a hammer at one big bastard who battered a priest when I was about 15," and then she took a sip of her tea and broke a scone open to butter it.

I sat there aghast. This wee woman who dresses in anything mushroom-coloured, wears nice, flat shoes and goes around cleaning other people's ovens was a gang member. And to think people are worried about gangs recruiting young people today!

I realised that there must be hordes of Glasgow female pensioners all over the city who used to be girl gang members, sitting knitting and playing bingo, occasionally reminiscing about the good old days, when they went around slashing people and hitting folk with hammers.

"You married into the Calton, so you were one of the Tongs," Auntie Katie informed me as she rifled through her handbag for a clean hankie. "We never fought with the she-Tongs because they were mostly Catholic, but Billy Fullerton's Billy Boys were our arch enemies for years."

I started looking at the wee woman in a completely different light. She used to throw petrol bombs at people.

"What made you join the gang?" I asked.

"Well," she explained. "I was born a Catholic in Norman Street in Bridgeton and that's where most of the Protestants were really active in the sectarian fighting. They thought they owned the place, but we showed them."

What struck me was that she was still vehemently angry and still so proud to have been a Norman Conk that at any time she could even now go for a Billy Boy if the notion took her. That deep-rooted religious fervour was instilled so profoundly into her soul that it still had a hold on her.

She told me how they had a big green shamrock painted on the wall at Poplin Street, which marked the entry to the Norman Conks' Catholic territory.

I, too, had first-hand experience of the gang warfare mentality when I lived in the Calton area of Glasgow back in the late 1970s and early 1980s and ran a bar there. We had two gangs from the Barrowfield area, which is just behind Celtic Park, come into our pub, and they were called the Torch and the Spur.

You were fully expected to recognise opposing gang members to help avoid fights in the bar. I was 18 years old and terrified as they were all just young guys and girls. How was I supposed to tell one from the other? Turned out it was easier than I thought: if you heard war cries go up and a bottle being smashed, that was a signal.

The Torch and the Spur were not religious; they were territorial. Barrowfield was divided up into seven separate streets and it merely depended on where the council housed you as to what gang you fell into. Young men were murdered on the streets in the bloody battle between the Torch and the Spur. The only thing that finally bonded them was sharing heroin when it hit the streets in the early 1980s.

Gangs have been the fabric of inner-city society for hundreds of years; they are not a new phenomenon. If pensioners today are still calling allegiance to their old street warriors, then we have a long way to go to solve the problem.

Show proves Westerns are far from Deadwood

DEADWOOD is a fabulous Western series which I only just caught up with over the holidays on Sky 3.

I am totally in love with it. The language is wonderfully filthy: it sounds as rough as a drunken Saturday night in a pub doon the Barras.

Forget leather-chapped cowboys, women cooking round a campfire and evil, charging Indians. These are human stories.

Just watching Calamity Jane roaring drunk and swearing profusely without singing a chirpy ditty and breaking into a clippy-cloppy dance was so refreshing. And Ian McShane, with his grizzly face, paunchy stomach and wonderful presence, is compelling. The UK can export awesome actors to the US who steal scenes without being smooth, overly toned and plastically enhanced.

I am really into Westerns now. I recently watched a BAFTA preview of the forthcoming movie There Will Be Blood and was just stunned by Daniel Day-Lewis's performance as Daniel Plainview. It is surely worthy of an Oscar.

Am off to buy cowboy boots!

Steaming towards auld wumminhood

I have officially turned into a wee "Glesga wummin".

I was standing outside a café opposite the Tron Theatre in Glasgow, having a quick ciggie. An elderly woman was washing down the tiles on the doorway to her close with a mop. She was so friendly.

"The council came to fix the tiles but left a mess," she gasped as the cold air made mist of her hot, disinfected mop. "I am Molly – what's your name?"

"Janey," I said. "I used to go the steamie round here in Parnie Street."

She stopped mopping and leaned on the wall: "I loved that steamie as well. Do you remember the big steamie in the Calton before it shut?"

"Aye, I do. They used to have great sinks to scrub in as well." Then I stopped talking as I realised I sounded like Oor Maggie McShaggie – Glesga's oldest wummin!

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The full article contains 1092 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 07 January 2008 12:10 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Janey Godley
 
1

Boy Wonder,

07/01/2008 08:54:54
Am I reading the Hootsmon or the Daily Record here??
2

FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 07/01/2008 14:43:09
Strange how slashing and throwing petrol bombs at people identified as Protestants is described as 'deep rooted religious fervour'.

I always thought such activities were criminal offences.

3

Oor_Wullie,

ma_bucket 07/01/2008 15:06:38
"..Am I reading the Hootsmon or the Daily Record here.."

- naw, its The Broons (Nae Mean City Edition). Frae aboot 1952, right enuff.

Janey (yi cuddly auld jakey yi!) who did yi promise never tae sleep wae again in order tae get a spot spouting this stereotypical drivel? Awae, gies peace FFS.
4

TSynicto the core,

Bellshill. 07/01/2008 15:18:48
Aye.Glaswegians were hard in the twenties.Battles all ower the place.Remember the weapons? Cut throat razors, WW1 swords, bicycle chains, broken ginger bottles. And that was just the Primary 1 weans. But the Corporation turned a blind eye to the girl gang members as they were getting free training for jobs as tough as nails 'Come oan,get aff'conductresses on the Glasgae tram caurs.
Then there was the red biddie, the Buckie o'the twenties, brewed from a secret recipe by twa wee numpty brothers in an arch near Glasgow Central station. You could taste the paraffin and smell the meths but the third ingredient remained a mystery that they took with them wherever they finally went.
Aye,Glasgae was a hard place in they days.
5

Shamus,

Glasgow 08/01/2008 01:07:13
The Spur and Torch were confined to history about 1970. The polis were given powers to disperse them, bang them up and they did! I lived this, born an bread.The Calton and Bridgeton were actually one of the largest Catholic Diosese in Scotland. Auntie Katie and Patsie are imaginary. The silly fools were all fighting for something that did not exist including myself, while providing cheap labour and dying in the factories. The sad thing for the Calton and Bridgeton is that the monument to the Calton Weavers is lying wreaked on the ground in the cemetery in Abercromby St. Maybe the Scotsman will bring this to the attention of our historians. No point in telling the politicians!!
6

Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 08/01/2008 18:14:19
#2 Flub...... Good point! The fact was that the people on the receiving end of crazy granny's petrol bombs were not Protestants.They were scumbags,just as much scumbags as the so called Catholics who were throwing the petrol bombs.No self respecting Cathoilc or Protestant would have anything to do such low-life activity.I resent these hooligans and thugs being termed "Catholic or Protestant" they are simply scumbags, one and all.
7

Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 08/01/2008 18:14:20
#2 Flub...... Good point! The fact was that the people on the receiving end of crazy granny's petrol bombs were not Protestants.They were scumbags,just as much scumbags as the so called Catholics who were throwing the petrol bombs.No self respecting Cathoilc or Protestant would have anything to do such low-life activity.I resent these hooligans and thugs being termed "Catholic or Protestant" they are simply scumbags, one and all.
8

Hunky Dorey,

Glasgow 08/01/2008 18:15:40
Sorry for the repeat performace! H.D.
9

Hunky Dorey,

08/01/2008 18:18:45
There I go again,it should have been ,performance. It is obviously the after shock of the new year!
10

Happyhibee1956,

Southampton 09/01/2008 02:28:08
Actually, I thought the piece was quite interesting.

It reminded me of my youth in the late sixties and early seventies when I lived in easter road and was brought up there.

I remember the gangs from china town ( East Thomas st. etc, before they pulled it down and sent all the nutters to that new housing estate at Niddrie Mains ).

Although they were nothing like what is being described in the report above, but I still remember worrying about going past the tiffin restaurant after 10 at night at the top of easter road.
11

wayne bijlyeerheid,

10/01/2008 10:54:42
So it's OK throwing petrol bombs at Protestants?
What were they doing? oh aye allegedly coming back from the Orange Walk, RCs always "know" where Protestants have been, clearly breaking some law there, one that some slopeheaded Senga can justify throwing a bomb at you for.
Different laws for the celtc minded of course.
"Auntie Katie", who must be about 100years old if she exists, would not be what most people would class as a "typical wee Glasgow pensioner", not with a hooligan career that stretched from the 1920's, the heyday of the sectarian thugs known as the "Norman Conks", to the 1960's when the "Tongs" were formed.
Obviously not a typical wee Protestant pensioner anyway.
12

Figgy,

Glasgow 10/01/2008 11:07:41
and here was me thinking the RC wasn't a bigot.When you dig deep enough eh?
13

wayne bijlyeerheid,

10/01/2008 11:13:52
#12
Going by this article it seems to be so commonplace and everyday an attitude among sections of them that they don't consider it bigotry.
Mind you you only have to look at posts on Rangers' threads by the celt minded to see examples anytime day or night.
14

Dukie,

Glasgow, England 10/01/2008 11:40:02
Looks like todays batch of religious zealots got it through the 'titty' then.

A very sad day when an alleged prim old lady can boast of carrying out what amounts to a terrorist attack on citizens of her own city.

A very sad day indeed.
15

Figgy,

Glasgow 10/01/2008 12:03:15
#13
very true
#14 Dukie
she will claim it was an act of war to try and justify it
16

Willhelm Anderson,

10/01/2008 12:44:12
Och they are only Proddies.

In Today's modern Scotland, the majority population are there to be abused and ridiculed.

Didn't you all know it was only Prods who could be bigots? I'm sure this old trout wouldn't mind if one of her family had a molotov cocktail flung through their window.

But hey! tHat would be bigoty and thuggery against a minority.
17

Rupert Rigsby,

The Grange 10/01/2008 13:20:16
No doubt throwing petrol bombs at Protestants attending a legal and legitimate rally would be excused as a "political" act. ? The "author" of this artcle almost seems proud of this rancid and bigoted old nedette. Hope the old rhat dies very soon and in agony from cancer.
18

wayne bijlyeerheid,

10/01/2008 13:56:18
Quote >she was still vehemently angry and still so proud to have been a Norman Conk that at any time she could even now go for a Billy Boy if the notion took her. That deep-rooted religious fervour was instilled so profoundly into her soul that it still had a hold on her.<
Being a member of a bigoted catholic gang is a result of "deep-rooted religious fervour". Needless to say if it was a Protestant gang it would be a result of bigotry.
Sounds like a bitter old hag to me.

 

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