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Conservatives set to retain control after Iran poll



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Published Date: 16 March 2008
IRANIAN election results yesterday showed conservatives on course to keep their grip on parliament, but some were expected to join reformists in flaying President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's handling of the economy.
Conservatives took 120 seats in the 290-member assembly against 46 for reformists, according to partial unofficial results. The interior ministry, which supervised Friday's election, has said it might take another day or two to announce a fina
l tally.

Many reformists, trying to capitalise on public discontent over inflation, were disqualified from standing, but they expect Ahmadinejad to undergo sharper scrutiny, even in a parliament dominated by their conservative rivals.

"The president will face more challenges with the next parliament than he did with the current one," said Mohammad Ali Abtahi, a close ally of reformist former president Mohammad Khatami.

Abdollah Nasseri, spokesman for the reformist coalition, said it had won 34 seats outright in results that excluded Tehran. Reformists, not all of them members of the coalition, were assured of another 15 seats in run-off votes, he said. "We gained victory in an unequal election," Nasseri said, adding that 70% of seats had been "predetermined" for conservatives.

Interior minister Mostafa Pourmohammadi said more than 71% of seats counted had gone to "principlists" – a term conservatives use to describe their loyalty to the ideals of the Islamic Republic. Reformists had taken about 29%. Pourmohammadi did not say how many seats had been decided.

The United Front, the larger and more pro-government of the two main conservative candidate lists, confusingly includes critics as well as backers of Ahmadinejad.

Reformists and some conservatives have accused Ahmadinejad of fuelling inflation, now at 19%, by lavishly spending Iran's windfall oil revenues on subsidies, loans and handouts.

Pro-reform politicians have also rebuked Ahmadinejad for vitriolic speeches that have kept Iran on a collision course with the United Nations over Tehran's disputed nuclear plans. Some conservatives, such as former nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, who won a seat in Qom, a centre of Shi'ite learning south of Tehran, have also queried the president's style.

However, Ahmadinejad has won public backing from Iran's top authority, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has explicitly endorsed his handling of the nuclear row.

The interior minister put turnout at roughly 60% of the Islamic Republic's 44 million eligible voters. The United States, Iran's harshest western critic, said the vetting process for candidates meant the outcome of voting in the world's fourth largest oil-producing country was "cooked".



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  • Last Updated: 15 March 2008 11:23 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Iran
 
1

Siroos,

UK 16/03/2008 04:04:56
This is Mullah-Cracy in action. Pre - select the Candidates and tell - or force - the masses to vote for them !!
The masses are told that, it is their religious duty ( ??**%% ) to vote.
There is no such a thing as Pro Reformist Mullah. The only good Mullah is a dead one.
These are Cat and Mouse games played by the tyrants who soon will be armed with the Nukes too.
Deal with them NOW or LATER. Choice is YOURS. Do not forgets that, the stakes will be much higher later.
2

American,

16/03/2008 13:13:17
#1-siroos-"The only good Mullah is a dead one"--how true!!
3

britsout,

camelon 16/03/2008 18:19:17
sing when youre winning , amerikkka is falling ,your power is waning . when you say stupid stuff like the only good mullah .....etc , i just smirk at your desperation . the world has far more to worry about from the amerikkkan monster than historically pacific iran who have never in recent times invaded ANY OTHER COUNTRY . unlike the amerikkkans who have been at the very heart of the worlds troubles since before WW II
4

Foulkes Off the CyberNat,

Edinburgh 16/03/2008 19:02:26
Shock and horror Iran is a democracy!!! the US cannae invade it now in order to introduce democracy and free the Iranians from themselves they will have to think up a whole new excuse like WMDs for example.

1 Herr Siroos

Your getting this election confused with the election process in Florida.
5

57Nomad,

california 17/03/2008 01:44:43
#3 bo

bo said:

", i just smirk"

And I am sure that is a welcome change from the normal goggle-eyed, snot nosed, dribble chin expression you have on your face in your non-smirking moments.
6

Siroos,

UK 17/03/2008 02:57:04
#-3 , Brits Out; What are YOU on about? This is NOT about America. Go and spew your constant nonesense about America some where else.
If you are man enough, go and join Hammas and get ready to embrace your promised 72 Virgins.
7

Siroos,

UK 17/03/2008 03:07:09
#-4, F Off the C !! You sound like a bully.
I suggest you look up the definition of the bully.
It looks like that, you do not know much of the history of Iran.
I once had a Dog which, barked at ANY passer-by. I had it put down. It was a damn nuisance.
8

britsout,

camelon 17/03/2008 12:53:03
nonuts i'm grinning as i type this reply . you are so unable to puncture my anti zionist bubble . go sharpen your pin . long live the anti amerikkkan forces where ever they are found
9

Siroos,

UK 18/03/2008 14:48:10
#- Brits Out; You have become the " Joker " of the pack, if not a brain washed idiot. In another words, a Terrorist by supporting their idealogy.
10

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18/03/2008 16:11:34
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11

Imelda,

18/03/2008 16:41:34
10
brainless

You said "do you have another mother tounge ?"
What kind of language is this???????? Do you mean - mother tongue? Look like your first language is not English, maybe Arabic.
12

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19/03/2008 01:27:42
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13

Imelda,

19/03/2008 02:09:02
12
brainless

Hee Haw, now you said you are a sultan! I knew I was right from the beginning that you're a Muslim.
14

Siroos,

UK 19/03/2008 05:13:20
# - 13 , Imelda, I am Persian by birth and therefore, I have lived both sides of Dictatorship / Democracy. I need not explain which I prefer. I guess you can work it out for yourself.
People like " britsout " who incidently have severe mental shortcomings would rather promote Dictatorships rather than behave like civilised human beings and promote mutual respect. You know the type. Ruffians, Terrorists .....
He is best ignored. He may even change his ID eventually, AGAIN!!
15

Imelda,

19/03/2008 08:57:55
14
Siroos

Yes, I read somewhere from the other thread that you said you’re an Iranian and you had to flee Iran due to your political beliefs. I knew political prisoners in Iran are not given fair trial, are tortured and intimidated. I bet you are now very happy in UK where there’s freedom of speech and expression.
Heck, this britsOut aka brainLess is an idiot and yes, I understand he has severe mental shortcomings. He even wishes for an Islamic Republic in Israel and a country to be ruled by old mad Mullahs! He is blind to the truth due to his strong dislike for the Jews and Americans.
16

Imelda,

19/03/2008 16:54:19
14
Siroos

News flash
Could you believe this? I just came to know that britsfree (first ID) aka britsout (second ID) is now britsgrave (third ID)!!!!!!! Very true in your last line - "He may even change his ID eventually, AGAIN!!" See #51 and #53.

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/-Iraq-five-years-on.3891312.jp
17

Siroos,

UK 20/03/2008 05:13:16
#-16 , Imelda; It is NOT too difficult to anticipate the " Next Move " of his type. Fortunately ( and ) unfortunately, most Democractic societies also allow his type to have a voice. However, believe me, he will not last two minutes if he had to live under a Dictatorship. He would be used too much to shouting off his gob!!
18

Imelda,

20/03/2008 08:22:35
17
Siroos

Yeah, I also don't think he would survive long living under a Dictatorship or in countries run by old mad Mullahs and extreme religious bigots if he thinks there's such thing as recognition of human rights, freedom of speech and expression there. Right now he can freely shout and make much noises but that's because he stays in a Western society. So we call him an idiot!
19

Imelda,

20/03/2008 08:27:18
If you go over to the other recent threads, you can see this blathering idiot has been posting gibberish blah, blah, blah here and there. Only talk big but no actions!
20

Siroos,

UK 21/03/2008 06:01:03
#- Imelda; Unfortunately, idiots -like him - whom do not poses a strong mind but do boast a big mouth are the ones usually recruited by the jihadist camp.
These ARE the ones who eventually become the real threat as they can be brain-washed easily.
The Western societies are perfect breading grounds for them.
The only way to control them is to watch them 24/7.
21

Siroos,

UK 21/03/2008 06:06:00
Today is the FIRST day of Spring and traditionally it is also the start of Persians New Year.

Happy New Year to all Iranians. I hope one day soon you get back your country, your traditions and culture and more so your good reputation from the tyrant Mullahs and their cronies.
To your FREEDOM..............
22

Imelda,

21/03/2008 08:32:56
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU, Siroos.

And hopefully one day the people of Iran will liberate their country from religious fanatics and topple the tyrant Mullahs.

23

Imelda,

21/03/2008 08:43:00
I am surprised britsfree/britsout/britsgrave is not posting in Scotsman forum yesterday. Could it be that he has been banned again after using a new ID "britsgrave"? You see, many of his (as britsgrave) posts were removed!!
One thing for sure is that, he does not like anything that is American, Jew and British. Look at his recent post which has been removed already from the thread:

___________________________________________________________________
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/-Iraq-five-years-on.3891312.jp
53 britsgrave, camelon 19/03/2008 15:28:12

how dare you include britfree in your british empire trash post from nantwich . britfree despises the brits,amerikkkans and zionists. and wishes all apologists of those evil entities a sticky end
24

Siroos,

UK 22/03/2008 06:28:54
#- 22, 23, Imelda
Many thanks pal for the greetings.
Amen.

Yes I have noticed it too. However, in the melting pot of UK, those who try to work against the good of the nation should be deleted and not just their posts removed. I do not mean killed off. Please do not get me wrong. They should be sent away and have their rights as a British citizen removed. Even if they are British to begin with. This will remove the agitators from this land. I am sure some country will have them.
In Rome, do as the Romans do comes to my mind. This is unfinished. It must continue like this.... or else pack your bags and leave.
It may sound odd coming from a foreigner to have such extreme views, but I made this country my home and must treat it like my home and will defend it alike.
25

Siroos,

UK 22/03/2008 06:38:39
#-23, Imelda;
I do not think for one minute that, britfree is a British person. If by any chance he is one, he is a disgrace. He is a mistake, a second, a reject !!
A lot of brave people have died to bring freedoms for others. Abusing these freedoms is unforgivable in my opinion.
take a look at www.iranvajahan.net for some unbiased info please.
26

Imelda,

22/03/2008 09:01:12
24, 25
Siroos,

Like you, I also have some doubt that britsfree is a British. I have said so more than once in the other threads. His command of English is poor. You write good English and people who do not know your identity may have thought you come from an English speaking country. britsfree could be an immigrant or someone coming to Britain to further his studies or working there.

Maybe he got involved with a female British citizen. By getting marriage, he could have easily earned himself a PR status to stay there. Definitely, he is not a British. Since he has admitted he despises Americans, British and Jews, funny that he still wants to stay in Scotland (Camelon). Anyway I would not be surprised if he is not in Scotland but somewhere else.

I do not consider your views extreme. Frankly speaking, I share the same opinion with you regarding those troublemakers. They just take things for granted. Yeah, I agree they should be sent away and their rights as British citizens removed after all they are not grateful with the freedom bestowed on them. That will save the peace loving people the anxiety of becoming victim of terrorist attacks.

If such group of active and passive religious extremists are removed, we would not have heard anything like 7 July 2005 London Underground train bombing including attacked on a double decker-bus where 52 commuters died together with the four suicide bombers. Then also the Glasgow International Airport terror attack on 30 June 2007 but fortunately, no one was killed.

So you see it is better to get rid of these useless people or as you called them agitators than have them roam around freely in Britain.

britfree is not posting yesterday either. I just wish he stops posting. He only creates problems here and offering nothing good for a solution to peace.

27

Siroos,

UK 22/03/2008 19:58:09
#- 26, Imelda;
I found his posts amusing and at the same time informative - on what goes on in an empty room, his skull !!
At the same time his posts were offensive and disturbing to many I am sure.
There are many other ways and means by which one can adopt citizenship here. The door was left ajar for too long.
I once had the chance to ask the opinion of an MP. He said; The introduction of new genes is considered beneficial for the UK stock. I replied; Sir, I was not talking about cattle, if the new stock as you put it do not integrate we could have profound long term problems. He did not comment any more. That was more than 10 years ago. From the point of science, yes I buy this, but in reality it has been hard to accomplish.
Have a nice Easter pal. The useful idiots are being watched - to the dismay of some politicians.
28

Imelda,

23/03/2008 06:43:57
27
Siroos

Yes, I also find britsfree's posts offensive and disturbing at times, especially if he keeps spewing out lies and more lies. Most probably, to stir up and incite hatred in this forum like what terrorist apologists and supporters of religious extremists do here.

The problems is, they like creating stories and conspiracy theories to aggravate and exaggerate a situation. They refuse to believe facts even if you supply credible source/links to support your claims. I think most posters do not take britsfree's posts seriously. As what you said, his posts are amusing.

You told me that there are many ways/means of obtaining citizenship there. I couldn't think of a better way to adopt British citizenship other than finding a British citizen to marry. But I reckon it will be easier seeking asylum in UK if the applicant is a political ex-prisoner who has been cruelly treated and tortured in prison before. Are you staying in Scotland or England?

I studied in England for a year and I'd found the weather too cold, very lonely too. Going there for a holiday is OK but not for long term unless I'm a millionaire. Some White Britons are friendly while some others racist.

If I have a chance, I would also like applying other country's citizenship (additional) but I won't let go of my national passport. My country, Singapore is a nice place to stay. It's like a small island but watch out, very modern with many high skyscrapers, plenty of foreign tourists and expatriates. Believe me, it's a shopping paradise.
29

Siroos,

UK 23/03/2008 23:07:25
#- 28, Imelda,
If you do not mind, I can not disclose my location. You never know who is watching.
The problems in the UK society stem from the lack of integration. Both types are guilty of this. The immigrants and the Britons alike. Some towns and or neighbourhoods have become exclusive to one. It is not good at all.
Racism is not rife in the UK, however, xenophobia is!!
I guess with cheaper air travel - in time - xenophobia will be reduced. I must also admit that, the colonial thinking also plays a part, but those guilty of this should read the history of GB and realise what sacrifices were made specially during WW2 by their subjects. We must give credit where it is due. However, there is always a minority who spoil it for the rest.
Yes I know about Singapore. Where Eastern and Western cultures have bonded and not collided.
britfree is a sick leaf on a beautiful Tree.
There will be a State of Palestine one day and Palestine will prosper in Peace with Israel. Isrealis have alot to offer them. The picture as we see it today is due to the instinct of self preservation and keeping their identity alive. The Jews as a whole have had it very rough over the centuries. They work hard and are subject to the envy of many.
30

Imelda,

24/03/2008 03:12:00
29
Siroos

I understand you couldn’t disclose your location since this is a public forum. Yep, it’s true there’s a lack of integration in the UK multi-racial society. I think it has a lot to do with the skin colour and different culture. One gets better deals and respect if he is a White and speaking with British accent. I also notice the Muslims there like keeping to themselves with their own group of people rather than trying to mix around more with the White Britons and non-Muslims. Don’t you think so?

Yes, there will be a state of Palestine one day. The Israelis are trying their best making an effort to secure peace with the Palestinians and making some sacrifice for the sake of peace. The problem is, many Palestinians are taking thing for granted and do not want to make any sacrifice. They demand all the lands be theirs rather than to share or just to live side by side with the Jews. A lot of them are very interested in jihad to accomplish this goal. We also hear of them preaching martyrdom which has somewhat encouraged them to go for jihad instead of negotiation for a peaceful solution. I learnt a lot from the other posters about the Palestinian conflict.

britsfree is amongst one of them who thinks this way. You are right, the Jews work very hard and have now managed to develop their land to build their own nation into a prosperous one. So they have become the subject of envy, their enemies who only want to destroy them.

31

Siroos,

UK 24/03/2008 11:33:49
#- 30, Imelda; There has been a large influx of Polish people into the UK. They are hard workers and WHITE. I have heard from many of them who have become subjected to degrading treatment. I truly believe that, the root of the problem is xenophobia.
After the WW2, the immigrants had a major contribution to rebuilding this country, but some choose to ignor this fact.
I guess you may know that, the national dish of the UK is now Curry. The greater picture of the average Britons is changing rapidly, however, the attitudes must also change to allow easier integration. This is for both sides.
As a whole, Iranians mix and mingle where ever they end up. We do not wear pyjama like clothes in the streets. I do not mean to be nasty by saying this. It is a fact. The Britons find it very offensive.
Skin colour relates to those who still have fantasies of their shameful colonial past while they spend lots of money abroad to get a tan. This will also pass.
To seek War - or even Jihad - rather than talking in order to resolve a dispute, is an animal instinct. However, it is intertwined in the Islamic religion as a duty. How they can call it the religion of Peace is beyond my comprehension. Maybe, because it is a Cult and thus at odds with the modern world and democratic values.
32

Imelda,

24/03/2008 13:17:10
31
Siroos

I have no idea the national dish of UK is now curry! As what I know, the Indians, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis like eating curry (their main speciality) but never realize the White Britons now fancy curry as you said. I was surprised! I am sure the Indians, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis in UK still put on their own traditional clothes or as you called it pyjamas, the same as in my place. So it is not difficult to recognize which group they belong and from where. However I couldn’t distinguish an Iranian but if he has a facial feature like that of a Middle East people and beard, I would just consider him an Arab.

I’m glad we share similar opinion toward the so called “religion of Peace”; definitely it is at odd with the modern world and democratic values especially their treatment of women. The cult preaches violence against infidels. Many Persians are Muslims as in most Middle East countries. So sometimes I do wonder whether you’re a Muslim or not?

I don’t know that the White Polish people are not treated well but also, I believe it has something to do with their poor command of English and because the locals knew they are foreigners. It was more than ten years ago the last time I was in England. At that time, it was also difficult to get a part-time job if one could not speak English with a British accent. Then also your skin colour was a problem. That’s why I didn’t mix so well with the White Britons. And I did meet some of them who were unhelpful, racist and anti-colour. Of course I had some happy moments there but actually, very lonely too and the weather cold! I’m glad you are happy staying in UK.
33

Siroos,

UK 24/03/2008 22:45:04
#-32, Imelda; PLEASE !! Do not mistake a Persian for an Arab or vice versa. Persians have not forgiven the Arab invaders whom nearly destroyed the Persian civilisation. They killed, raped and plundered in the name of Islam.
At the time of invasion, Persians were Zoroastrians. They believed in God. But if one is not a Moslem, then, one is an infidel. What is the fate of an infidel? Either one converts to Islam or one dies.
I am not posting anything to please anyone. My posts are basically due to my readings, observations, and life experiences. I guess the same is true for anyone who decides to have an unbiased approach.
It is very sad that, you had such experiences here. But I think, happiness is a state of mind and we can control our emotions if we try.
I a Moslem? NO! I married a British woman in the house of God. A Church. As a child I was told that, I was a Moslem though. But you are really nothing unless you truly understand what you believe in and put your beliefs into practise. As I understand it, religions were brought in for us to guide us through our lives and to help us to be better human beings. Love thy neighbour sort of speak. Which followers actually stick to their religious teachings, is out in the open. Not many by MY observations.
You mentioned the weather here. It has become a lot warmer in recent years. This climate change is not really a bad thing. Maybe we could grow Oranges and Rice here soon. Joke.
Most Britons after a holiday abroad always talk about the friendly reception there. Maybe they should learn that, no one out there is going to eat them. They should chill out.
34

Imelda,

25/03/2008 03:42:53
33
Siroos

I do not know anything about Zoroastrianism and that Persians were Zoroastrians. So I have the terms google and look out for Wikipedia encyclopedia. I understand now with what you meant. Sadly to say, the Muslim Arab invaders had changed the state of affairs in Iran through their conquest of your country centuries ago, including the primary religion of Persian people. Majority of Persians have therefore become Muslims due to force conversion by these Arab invaders in the past. If not for the conquest, the Persians could have kept their religion and would have been much better off today than following this “religion of Peace”. So I was correct to say from the beginning that Islam preaches violence against infidels. It’s either you convert to Islam or die!

Oh yes, I knew Persians are not Arabs but because they also come from the Middle East, most are Muslims and grow beard, looking quite alike with those from Arab countries, I would somehow refer them as Arabs, just to be simple. Many people do mistaken Iranians for Arabs because both of them happen to share similar views and with same political beliefs on anything related to issues concerning the American, British and Israeli policies, also partly because both Iranians and Arabs are believers of the same cult/religion. I think most Westerners still treat Iranians as Arabs. I only come to know Iranians are Persians just over a year ago.

Oop, I never realize you married in a Church and your wife a British woman. At first I thought you’re a Moslem like most Iranians are. I’m happy to hear you are not a believer of the “religion of Peace”. You know, people who are Moslems usually have conflicting political views and in disagreement with me. Since you are not a Moslem and married a British woman, I can imagine you can easily integrate and mingle very well into the British society. Mind you, there was a White British man who was interested in me while I was in England. But I lacked
35

Imelda,

25/03/2008 03:43:44
But I lacked confidence to work up a commitment with a foreigner to carry on with the relationship, maybe also because I didn’t plan to make England my home. If I had developed some love for him, I might be a British citizen today. I did say I was very lonely but it was because I missed my home and family in Singapore. The cold weather had also aggravated the situation.

36

Siroos,

UK 25/03/2008 09:20:44
#- Imelda; Sorry it looks like we are side tracking from some important issues. I would like to assure you that, only a small minority of Iranians grow a beard.
There is also a major rebellion in Iran - the youth mostly - against Islam in general.
People in Iran want freedom and want to be treated as humans. Iran is a very rich country but it's natural resources are being sold to fund international terrorism. This is not how Persians are. We are peace loving people, but the country is being ruled by a bunch of crooks who claim to have a mandate from God himself to rule. They live like Kings in total luxury while their cronies share the crumbs of the table.
If the world today ignores this real threat, then there will be a real tragedy to deal with later on.
The Mullah MUST be pacified.
37

Imelda,

25/03/2008 11:48:38
36
Siroos

I’m happy to learn something good coming out of today Iranian youth. I have no idea there’s a major rebellion against Islam in Iran. Obviously the old Mullahs are the greatest obstacle to freedom of speech and human rights. They are taking an advantage by making use of religion to control ordinary people. I believe religion and politic should not come together.

I do know Iran is a very rich country due to oil but sad to hear as you said the money has been used to fund international terrorism and also extremism. While US is trying to tackle the real threat coming from the religious leaders in Iran and to combat terrorism, you can see mostly European posters (terrorist apologists) in this Scotsman forum condemning the American of interference, giving the simple excuses such as Iran has never invaded a country in the past and that, Iran is never a threat to world peace. These posters just hate whatever Americans did and always refer Americans as the terrorists.
38

Siroos,

UK 25/03/2008 12:22:22
#- 37, Imelda; Yes it is true. The Americans saved Europe at least twice before, WW1 & WW2. It looks likes they may take the burden of WW3 on their own shoulders while the EU offerd a token Army as in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I am not a war monger but obviously self preservation is above all ethics.
39

Imelda,

25/03/2008 12:49:58
38
Siroos

Yep, I also believe the Americans will have to shoulder the burden of WW3 on their own but I suppose they can also depend on Israel to help a bit to bolster security, intelligence and support for war against terrorism.

Siroos, it has been a pleasure exchanging posts with you until now. I also get to learn something about your country. I hope one day the people of Iran will get back their country from the tyrant Mullahs.

Cheers
40

Siroos,

UK 26/03/2008 01:02:46
#- 39,
Cheers Imelda.
41

Imelda,

26/03/2008 01:55:11
40
Siroos

GOOD LUCK

 

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