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Bush and Sarkozy take joint stand as Iran rejects deal



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Published Date: 15 June 2008
GEORGE Bush and Nicolas Sarkozy yesterday told Tehran to stop enriching uranium and scolded Damascus for backing terrorism that destabilises the Middle East.
The US president, standing with his French counterpart at a news conference in Paris, said he was disappointed that Iranian leaders had yesterday rejected "out of hand" a package of incentives offered as long as it halted its uranium enrichment
programme.

He said an Iran with a nuclear weapon would threaten world peace. Sarkozy chimed in, saying it would be "totally unacceptable". The French leader said the only solution was a "faultless, seamless" regime of sanctions against Iran.

Assessments vary widely, but it is presumed Tehran will have enough fissile material for a weapon within a few years.

A US intelligence report in December said Iran once had an active warhead programme, but shelved it in 2003. But the administration argues that the continuing enrichment means the military programme could be restarted at any time.

Bush also issued a warning to the Syrian president, Bashar Assad, saying the Syrians should stop working with Iran to destabilise the Middle East.

"My message would be 'Stop fooling around with the Iranians and stop harbouring terrorists'," Bush said.

In a statement issued by the French presidential palace, the US and France sought to dispel signs that they have diverging thoughts on Syria.

They called on Syria and Lebanon to establish quickly full diplomatic relations – a signal that the countries hope Damascus will reduce its interference in domestic Lebanese affairs.

Bush said Syria should serve as a constructive force in the Middle East to help advance a Palestinian state and make it clear to the Islamic militant group Hamas that "their terror should stop for the sake of peace". Sarkozy warned Syria against standing with Iran on the nuclear standoff and other issues.

The French president said he and Bush agreed about the need to guarantee Lebanon's independence.

Sarkozy sought to play down a growing controversy about an invitation extended to Assad – among other Arab leaders – to France's Bastille Day military parade next month, and plans to include Syria in a new Union for the Mediterranean that Sarkozy has championed.

European Union diplomat Javier Solana presented a modified package of economic, technological and political incentives to Iranian leaders yesterday on behalf of the US, Germany, Britain, France, Russia and China. Iran immediately rejected the deal because it requires suspending uranium enrichment.

"I'm disappointed that the leaders rejected this generous offer out of hand," Bush said. "It's an indication to the Iranian people that their leadership is willing to isolate them further. Our view is we want the Iranian people to flourish and to benefit."

Bush's national security adviser, Stephen Hadley, said last week that such a rejection would trigger the international community to "get much more aggressive" about enforcing the United Nations' penalties and taking other steps to squeeze Iran's vast international business and banking relationships.

Bush thanked France for agreeing to send at least 700 more troops to Afghanistan. He also brushed off criticism that a long-term security deal between the US and Iraq was faltering. "If I were a betting man, we'll reach an agreement with the Iraqis," Bush said.

His upbeat assessment came as prime minister Nouri al-Maliki declared that talks with the US were deadlocked. Sunni and Shiite preachers have spoken out against enabling American troops to remain in Iraq after the end of the year.



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1

Harry "Dingy" Reid,

Las Vegas 15/06/2008 00:09:52
Another article terrorist appeasers like Linus and Guga won't like reading.
2

Biker,

Ayr 15/06/2008 00:36:41
Silly remark Harry. The biggest terrorist of them all is Dubya.
3

Edmond's comment,

Canada 15/06/2008 00:51:27
#2 Biker

You also apply to #1's comment. Good news for Bush must really upset you. You would probly rather see headlines like "100 Americans killed in Irag today"

4

Harry "Dingy" Reid,

Las Vegas 15/06/2008 02:22:39
#2 Biker

Actually the worst terrorists are the lame brains like you that help the enemy each day by not seeing the big picture and undermining the troops and our leaders. You have no idea the damage you deaths you cause but that is your right.
5

American,

15/06/2008 02:34:20
#4-harry-How true! Maybe biker is part of an organization like the ACLU--like the ones who want to release those at club gitmo. They get released, then go back to kill our soldiers and our allied soldiers.
6

Guga II,

Rockall 15/06/2008 03:57:37
How come the war criminal Bush, and that fop Sarkozy are not demanding that Israel stop enriching unranium, and get rid of their stock of 3-400 nuclear weapons?

Unlike Israel and America, Iran has never invaded anyone, or attacked anyone other than in self-defence.

If there is anyone responsible for destabilising the Middle East it is the war criminal Bush, with his illegal war and occupation of Iraq, and giving the Israelis $30 billion for more weapons.

I also see that the rednecks have crawled out from under their stones.

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15/06/2008 04:31:45
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15/06/2008 04:33:19
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Guga II,

Rockall 15/06/2008 04:59:21
#5 & #6.

The only idiots around are you rednecks that support the kidnapping, murder, tortue and beatings of people.

Have you ever wondered why America is so universally detested these days? maybe it is something to do with your idiot, war criminal president, and idiot rednecks like yourself who want to out-Nazi the Nazis.

Get your mother to explain things to you.
10

Guga II,

Rockall 15/06/2008 05:01:04
Sorry, the above should be #7 & #8.

Incidentally, if you supply me with an e-mail address, I'll send you the "Yearly Update on Rednecks".
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American,

15/06/2008 05:45:26
#9-guga- "rednecks that support the kidnapping, murder, tortue and beatings of people"--I had no idea muslims were rednecks!!
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Linus,

at arm's length 15/06/2008 05:53:41
Seems to me it wasn't so long ago that all of the Americans were calling for boycotts to the French, for refusing to join the illegal invasion and illegal war in Iraq. They were even trying to rename French fries, for they were so upset with the French. What happened? Oh I know. The French voted in some playboy, who amongst other things, is kissing up to the Bush Administration. Isn't it ironic how the Bush Gang can go around condemning one nation after another, while they are the biggest terrorists on the block. Their stock-pile of WMD makes everybody else's look like toys, and in the meantime they keep beefing up Israel's military, Taiwan's military, and who knows what else they're up to? They're strategically situated in Europe, to keep an eye on the Russians, and claim that they are there to keep an eye on rogue nations. Well, the US is the biggest and worst rogue nation, and they are the ones that can not be trusted, with anything they say or do, especially with that mentally challenged village idiot they have for a president.
13

Guga II,

Rockall 15/06/2008 08:25:45
#11 Septic.

Your little joke is pathetic. You are well aware that it is your country that has been doing all the kidnapping, murder, torture and beatings, on a grand scale.

At least your Supreme Court is trying to make your war criminal president get back into line; though he will, no doubt, manage to sleaze his way around their latest ruling on Guantanamo Bay.
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Linus,

at arm's length 15/06/2008 08:45:01
#1 Harry "Dingy" Reid,
So why is it that you appease your president and Administration, when they are in fact the biggest terrorists on the list? Yes, that includes your very own CIA,you know that organisation that likes to torture suspects, with the approval of your lame-brain president. Your very own FBI, another Federal terrorist group, who is only slightly better than the CIA, only some would argue that, and say that the FBI is worse. Then take a look at your IRS, now there's an organisation that screws all of you citizens over, and make you pay taxes on your taxes, and kindly jail you if you fail to oblige. You seem to have bragging rights alright, bragging rights that you're the biggest idiot for supporting Bush and his terrorist Administration and all your Federal crooked organisations.
15

Biker,

Ayr 15/06/2008 09:14:29
Guga and Linus. Thanks for the support in the face of the stupidity above. Yes indeed the redneck brigade have landed with the usual tripe about helping the free world.
Alex, Chicago. If you think that Bush et all went into Iraq for anything else but the oil then you are sadly deluded. It also of course did no harm to Haliburton shares and the bank balances of Cheyney and the rest of the fools .
Guantanamo bay is an anathema in this day and age (in fact any day and age). To hols people for up to 5 years without charge or trial is wrong. To them torture them for information to charge them with is criminal. Any fool knows that torture is the least effective way of gaining accurate information and the most effective way of radicalising people.
Then to tell the world that the subjects of your attention will be subject to militery courts is a blatant breach of their human rights. Hardly the approach of a so called civilised society, especially after invading their country. Oh and by the way, I include the UK in this rant just so as I cannot be accused of anti- Americanism.
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Linus,

at arm's length 15/06/2008 10:17:25
#15 Biker,
You're more than welcome for the support, we're speaking out on the obvious, and we're dealing with some extremists here, extremists that support a war criminal that they voted in, that criminal going by the name of George W. Bush. They support terrorism when conducted by their own country, for they justify it by saying that they are doing it to protect themselves, well if that was the case, they would stay in the US and fight terrorism from there, and not invade another country under the guise of fighting terrorism. Suddenly the French are their friends again, for their leader has no backbone and is bowing down to Bush. I can see Germany going down that same path real soon, but I hope that I'm wrong on that assumption.
If we were true terrorist appeasers, we would be backing the US, but since we are not backing the US, they resort to calling us something that they themselves are.
18

Silence of the Yams,

15/06/2008 11:26:37
I hope Dubya gives the Mullahs a bunker busting going away present before November. Obama certainly can't be trusted to act firmly.
19

Linus,

at arm's length 15/06/2008 11:55:19
#18 Silence of the Yams,
Take a little hint of your own name and keep the silence, nobody is interested in your war mongering, you're just proving to everybody that you are a true terrorist.
20

Silence of the Yams,

15/06/2008 12:10:53
Anus, the forced removal of illegal nuclear facilities when all diplomacy has failed is not terrorism you cretinous pond life! You and fellow loons would be happy to see a nuclear arms race unfold in the Islamic world, I wouldn't. Therefore, the sooner Bush blows these facilities away the better for all concerend. And if on the way back they save one precision guided bomb for whatever slumland address you and your fellow loony Islamo fascists lovers call home, I wouldn't object!

Now, I suggest you get back to your Quran and leave this board in peace from your campaign of global Islamofascist appeasment
21

yockel,

15/06/2008 12:26:45
#3 "good news for Bush," what are you smoking, did you read the article? He is "betting" on an agreement with the Iraqis. Successful invasion man!
22

Linus,

at arm's length 15/06/2008 12:39:56
#20 Silence of the Lambs,
All that tough talk of yours can't be backed up by you, for you are a coward, by suggesting to just bomb anybody and anything that is against you. The more you open your mouth, the more you prove what a true terrorist you are, and in your opinion only two nations should have WMD, your beloved Israel and your other beloved USA. It's just a matter of time before one turns against the other, and you'll be left scrambling as who to kiss up to. Either way you choose, you lose, for they are both supporters of terrorism, and the rest of the world isn't going to stand by idly for much longer.
23

Ballindarroch,

Highlands 15/06/2008 14:48:47
#18 Silence of the Yams

Obama will hand over the keys to whoever gives the US a dirty look.
24

Linus,

at arm's length 15/06/2008 14:58:16
#23 Ballindarroch,
What are you babbling about now?
25

steve's here,

i had to look it up 15/06/2008 15:17:41
People stereotyped as rednecks are largely descendants of the Irish, Ulster-Scots and Lowland Scots immigrants who traveled to North America from Northern Ireland and Scotland in the late 17th and 18th centuries, although some of them are descended from people of Germanic and other stock. The Ulster-Scots had historically settled the major part of Ulster province in Northern Ireland, after previous migration from the Scottish Lowlands and Border Country. These pioneering people and their descendants are known in North America as the Scots-Irish. (The 18th century influx of Highland Scots into the Carolinas also contributed to the bloodlines.)[2][3]

The "Celtic Thesis" of Forrest McDonald and Grady McWhiney holds that they were basically Celtic (as opposed to Anglo-Saxon), and that all Celtic groups (Irish, Scottish, Welsh and others) were warlike herdsmen, in contrast to the peaceful farmers who predominated in England. U.S. Senator James H. Webb of Virginia uses this thesis in his book Born Fighting to suggest that the character traits of the Irish and Scots — loyalty to kin, mistrust of governmental authority, and military readiness
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steve's here,

i should have added 15/06/2008 15:19:27
the comment i posted #25 was from Wikapedia
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Linus,

at arm's length 15/06/2008 15:28:41
#25 steve's here,
I'm not exactly sure where you are going with this, but it pretty interesting anyways, and does throw some light on as to why we see the arrogance displayed by some of the Americans, especially that of a certain George W. Bush, who himself is a coward, but has no problem sending anyone off to war to fight his dirty fights for him. At least his father fought, to what extent nobody will ever know for sure, but Junior has managed to avoid any confrontation himself, being able to find enough volunteers to do the work for him. Thanks for this entertaining bit of info. though steve, things like these are eye openers.
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steve's here,

back here 15/06/2008 17:51:31
i did not really know the meaning of redneck, but i keep seeing it here in the posts. i guess the term became derogatory over time. i don't want to see another country with nukes, and the ones that have them should take steps to rid themselves of them. Let’s see the EU and the US join together to rid the world of these weapons. Till then they will all look like hypocrites.
29

Harry "Dingy" Reid,

Las Vegas 15/06/2008 18:06:06
28 steve's here

Calling people Rednecks was Linus' failed attempt to insult people he is loosing a debate with.
30

Cerberus,

Hades 15/06/2008 19:04:27
Sarkozy has just shot himself in the foot with that.

Aligning yourself with the world's most hated terrorist and war criminal is a bad political move in France just now.

Iran has every right to enrich uranium and the US and United Kingdom have gone against the NPT but without sanction (US nuclear weapons in foreign lands and the British recent purchase of the new Trident). The NPT inspection team are only complaining about some details regarding "intent of use" from the 1980s (in effect, at war with the US) and, if you bother to read the original reports from the team's website, you will discover that they see no evidence of weapon making. Something the media seems reluctant to report.

The quote "Bush also issued a warning to the Syrian president, Bashar Assad, saying the Syrians should stop working with Iran to destabilise the Middle East." is simply sublime in its complete disregard for historical fact and for the cognitive skills of his audience around the world.

It's the US, UK, Israel (and France to a lesser degree) that have deliberately destabilised the Mid-East. They have divided communities, imposed brutal dictators, forcefully stamped out any fledgling democratic forms, created wars, supplied weapons to all sides, yet Mr.Bush accuses Syria and Iran of destabilising the Mid East.

It's comments like that that make the US a laughing stock around the world. Let's hope Obama gets into power in the US and rectifies this. One also hopes that he instigates a revamp of US education policy on the teaching of history so that the fine people of the US can begin to understand why most of the world hates their current & past governments' foreign activities and is bewildered by the lack of historical knowledge and the Hitleresque patriotism that blinkers them to the rather obvious and easily discovered truth: The US is the world's biggest terrorist state.

Sarkozy is another Tony Blair and will soon be voted, as Tony was in Britain, the least popula
31

American,

15/06/2008 19:04:33
#13-guga--"all the kidnapping, murder, torture and beatings, on a grand scale"--HHmm, I recall a video taping of the beheading of nick berg. I recall reading and hearing of many jihadists homicide bombers, and beheaded bodies found in various places in iraq. I recall reading about a 12-13 year old jihadists beheading an adult. BTW-why is it some at club gitmo are afraid to go home to their own countries because they're afraid they'll be tortured. Me thinks you're not only an American and jew hater, but also 2 faced!

Would you like to take control of the prisoners at club gitmo. If so, we will hold you responsible for the ones that go back on the battlefield to try and kill not only our soldiers---but YOUR soldiers too. Your soldiers lives (and other allied soldiers lives) are at stake here.

Shameful of you and your ilks to rather give enemy combatants more of a chance to return to the battlefield to try to kill YOUR soldiers. NEWSFLASH-many released have been caught or killed on the battlefield. You & your ilks are probably the type who would spit on your countries soldiers! Shameful to think your countries soldiers would do anything to defend people like you.
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Cerberus,

Hades 15/06/2008 19:06:17
continued

Sarkozy is another Tony Blair and will soon be voted, as Tony was in Britain, the least popular man in France.

A dumb move by him. Nice wife though.





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American,

15/06/2008 19:07:31
#23-Ballin-how true!!!!


#24-linus-It's complicated. you wouldnt understand.
34

American,

15/06/2008 19:08:03
#24-linus-maybe your mullah can explain #23 to you.
35

Cerberus,

Hades 15/06/2008 19:14:53
Guga

Think of Dad's Army's Jones' line, "They don't like it up 'em sir, they don't like it up 'em!"

Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler?------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxzkP0-iUUM
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Biker,

Ayr 15/06/2008 19:48:55
American. Sorry mate most of your post was incorrecet. Most of the people in "gitmo?" (what a cute name) are there as a result of random kidnapping by US and UK forces. Also due to being "soldout" for cash by opposition forces. This does not bode at all well for the war against terror.
Torturing innocent people only radicalises them even more, and the assumption by their home country is that as they have been absent for so long they must be colluding with the US/UK. This is what makes them afraid to return home.
Consider this if you will. How many people would have been beheaded by now (by the "jihadists") if the US/UK invasion had not taken place? I'm prepared to bet..... none.
37

American,

15/06/2008 22:41:11
#36-biker-Was this guy kidnapped?
Mosul bomber Abdullah Salim Ali al-Ajmi, a Kuwaiti who spent three years at Guantánamo Bay before being released in 2005. He was acquited at his trial.

Story about 2 detainees who would rather go back to gitmo because no torture there. Note where they were picked up and one was charged with terrorist ties.
And of course most prisoners are going to say they've been tortured. It helps feed the anti-American feelings. Is it true, Im sure in some instances, like khaleed shiek mohammad. To believe all accusations is like believing OJ is innocent.
I dont really like using any site that mentions the UN or the HRW. Why are there no critics of other countries that torture? Like I've said before, let the prisoners be interrogated in those countries.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,504237,00.html
38

right of center,

Chicago 16/06/2008 01:34:34
37 American

Still trying to reason with terrorist apologists? They have tunnel vision and won’t admit the good work that is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. Good news means they were wrong….
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57Nomad,

16/06/2008 03:23:07
#6 guga

"I also see that the rednecks have crawled out from under their stones."

I see the pencil-neck terrorist admirers have crawled out from under their Rockall.
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57Nomad,

california 16/06/2008 03:31:58
#12 Minus

This:

"especially with that mentally challenged village idiot they have for a president."

was written by the genius how insists that Roman Catholics crucified Jesus. He also stated that "nobody knows what happened 2000 years ago." Sweet. Apparently the names Suetonius, Cassius Dio, Josephus, et al are unknown to this savant.
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American,

16/06/2008 03:43:50
#38-roc-You're right about the tunnel vision. Just dont understand how they would want to take a chance by releasing these prisoner if some are known to have been released and then went on to purposely kill soldiers and "purposely" kill innocent people. There's got to be some reason why people end up in gitmo. Their own countries dont want them back---that alone should say something about them.
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Biker,

Ayr 16/06/2008 20:13:04
American. It is fair to say that holding a person for years without charge is very poor and against the Geneva convention, with the US is a signatory. I suppose you will now claim that no torture takes place a "gitmo". Scemantics my friend as the prisoners are flown around the world to friendly nations with less concience for the purpose. This is fact as many of the flights land for refuling near to my home.
many of the prisoners released from Guantanamo have suffered in this fasion and it does the image of the US no favours.
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mike - across the pond,

biker.... 16/06/2008 20:24:45
1. do you understand what it takes to be "covered" by the "geneva convention"? or are you just running your rot?

2. do you understand that even if they WERE covered, there is precisely NOTHING in the "geneva convention" that requires a "speedy trial"....
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Polly Ann,

17/06/2008 01:10:56
44 mike - across the pond

Biker is on the same anti-American team with the same ilk as Finnking and Djookers the Troll.

 

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