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Thousands of tickets for Hogmanay in capital unsold



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Published Date: 09 January 2008
THOUSANDS of tickets and passes for this year's Hogmanay celebrations in Edinburgh were left unsold, organisers admitted yesterday.
Around 5,500 of the £20-a-head "party packs", which guaranteed entry to the flagship event, were not bought, despite having been on sale for almost three months.

Officials have also admitted that a major ceilidh event in East Princes Street Ga
rdens, costing £37.50, was just over half full.

It is understood that the easy availability of regular tickets for the street party – costing £5 – significantly reduced demand.

The news has again cast doubt on the popularity of the event, which has been damaged by poor weather, funding problems and the withdrawal of a leading sponsor.

In recent years, tickets for the street party typically sold out by October. But this year, the general allocation of 57,500 tickets was not taken up until 27 December. The Hogmanay party packs are usually the only way of securing a last-minute ticket for the street party.

Last year, just 500 packs were unsold, while similar packages have been snapped up well in advance in previous years.

Although the council and the police have insisted that the crowds in the party arena were only marginally short of the event's 100,000-strong capacity, poor ticket sales are expected to leave the council with a major financial headache.

The majority of passes for the street party were free when the Hogmanay celebrations were made all-ticket in 1997. An administration charge of £2.50 was introduced in 2004-5 in the wake of the first cancellation of the event, and the fee was increased to £5 last year. Only a late surge in demand – partly triggered by the announcement that the X Factor winner Leon Jackson was to appear – ensured they were all sold.

The council has revealed just 12,000 of the party packs were sold out of a possible 17,500, while just 3,000 of the 5,500 tickets for the ceilidh in the Gardens event were sold.

The Scotsman understands there was also a poor take-up of free tickets traditionally offered to local residents, hotels and other businesses inside the street-party arena.

Outwith the arena, tickets for the gala Hogmanay ball at the Assembly Rooms, which in previous years were snapped up within a few hours, were not sold out until just before Christmas. Just 230 of the 450 tickets for a new indoor party at the Queen's Hall were sold, despite the cost being cut from £60 to £45 due to poor sales. Slow ticket sales will be a key factor in a review of the event the council is to carry out over the next few months.

The council has to find £750,000 in its next budget to fill a gap created by the Scottish Government's decision to scrap dedicated funding for festivals through a "cities growth fund", while the event is currently lacking a headline sponsor.

One senior council source said "there was no question" ticket demand was down this year. However, Steve Cardownie, deputy leader of Edinburgh city council, said: "We're thrilled with the turnout this year and any suggestions that the party is over for Edinburgh's Hogmanay are unfounded."

Simon Williams, head of the Edinburgh Principal Hotels Association, said: "Bookings were well down on previous years and I noticed that a lot of hotels were still advertising availability on the day.

"There were a variety of factors, including the cancellation the previous year, the economic downturn and a trend in people wanting to book trips later, but it would be a mistake to consider scaling anything back."



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  • Last Updated: 08 January 2008 10:34 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hogmanay
 
1

Will567,

in my living room 09/01/2008 00:14:29
Cancel the *@"**"^ thing for good and give us all a break! Who cares about it anyway
2

Rabster,

09/01/2008 00:54:07
#1 what a miserable attitude. how about you just stay in your living room and allow the rest of us to get on with making Edinburgh and Scotland a thriving successful fun place to live and to visit. The Hogmanay celebrations in Edinburgh are world-famous and it's in all of our interests to do everything possible to keep it that way.
3

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta 09/01/2008 00:55:06
1
Will567,
in my living room 09/01/2008 00:14:29
Cancel the *@"**"^ thing for good and give us all a break! Who cares about it anyway

Hey Dude , what's a living room ? Like who lives in a living room ?

Like is a bedroom room a living room ? Like when you sleep are U dead or living.

Like whats a living room dude.
GC
4

Barnett Formula Admin,

09/01/2008 01:40:50
#2 rabster
Less than 4000 you tube hits does not make a world famous event ;-)


Youtube views of New Year's Eve Edinburgh and London

Edinburgh 3,615 views

London 198,387
5

Navvy,

09/01/2008 02:11:25
Agreed agreed Cancel the event and save Edinburgh's overtaxed citizens yet more trouble. Let people celebrate Hogmanay in the traditional neighbourhood way
6

williamx,

canada 09/01/2008 03:13:40
A living room is something you don't have in the one holer you rent in Watts, LA where you live. Seat get sore sometimes?
7

Pilrig,

Livingston 09/01/2008 06:19:04
The Princes St celebrations are aboot as Scottish as galatic cannibal (living rooms are what posh people call 'lounges', dude), get back to the auld bells at the Tron, as it was before flash harry Irvine got involved.
8

calum,

09/01/2008 06:30:25
Major surgery needed to deal with the event. Begin by cutting out the cancer that is Irvine and his cosy cabal of chums and chumettes and get someone in who can return the Winter Festivals to a "unique" and truly Scottish occasion rather than the same old tired formula that had lost its appeal long ago. Also, let's have an oganiser who has a Plan "B".
9

Dave from Barra ©,

Western Isles 09/01/2008 07:48:22
It amazes me that people should have to pay for something that we (the Scots) made famous in the first place. Hogmanay is the epitome of all things Scottish yet we are asked to pay a hefty price to stand in a garden and listen to a band or 2.
10

ianmcg,

Pretoria 09/01/2008 07:51:40
Having attended in 98/99 I vowed never to go again I don't need to see thousands of drunken under 30's or pay for the "priveledge" I spent the bells in Ryrie's at Haymarket and a Grand time was had by all - saw some fireworks too! It's disgraceful that somebody wants to organise what originally was a spontaneous celebration. Looks like the public have voted with their feet!
11

dba,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 07:54:19
This story REALLY proves the simple (and legal)requirement for the organisers, the council and the Scottish Executive to produced full and audited accounts by Easter to show EXACTLY and in DETAIL the costs incurred by the Council (ALL the costs from EVERY department), the Police, the Heaith Board any form of expenditure involved in the actual night including the costs of paid 'organisers' and the fireworks AND the 'festival' that accompanied it) the cost of restoring the serious annual damage to East Princes Street Gardens and also the income from tickets, events, merchandising, donations,stall rents, sponsorhip... and who received them.

THEN AND ONLY THEN should the FULL council be able to discuss, debate and decide as to the REAL value for money of the event.

I would also respectfully suggest that the costs include a gag for Deputy Leader Cardownie...or. alternatively he be required to refrain from making any form of comments containing financial commitments without full discussion and debate by the FULL council. It really does seem as he is the Cultural Czar , Deputy Leader and has financial control of a Council that has been honest and admitted SERIOUS financial problems....and is being fored to slash many initiatives that ACTUALLY DO benefit the citizens of the city as opposed to those wih highly vested interests.
12

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 08:38:24
Quote 'THOUSANDS of tickets and passes for this year's Hogmanay celebrations in Edinburgh were left unsold, organisers admitted yesterday.'

'The council has revealed just 12,000 of the party packs were sold out of a possible 17,500, while just 3,000 of the 5,500 tickets for the ceilidh in the Gardens event were sold.'

'The Scotsman understands there was also a poor take-up of free tickets traditionally offered to local residents, hotels and other businesses inside the street-party arena.'

Yet Steve Cardownie says "We're thrilled with the turnout this year and any suggestions that the party is over for Edinburgh's Hogmanay are unfounded."

Stevie boy, you must enjoy a cheap thrill. Let's get rid of all this expensive corporate package rubbish and revert back to the early 1990s format for the party. People just turned up and had a good time, until the coucil decided it could make a profit from the event.


13

KTCB41,

09/01/2008 09:02:06
I hope this event keeps going as long as possible.

Edinburgh Council say's it has funding problems. This event and its utility in relation to it's cost to the Council Tax and majority of Business Rates payers would suggest that they must have plenty of spare money.

The facts seem to be that the majority of local people and local businesses don't get any benefit from this at all.
14

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 09:08:49
So, despite the best efforts at spin by Irvine and the rest of his cosy cabal of hucksters, shysters and charlattans to talk up this whole tawdry gallimaufry of an 'event', the truth comes out just over a week later. Even the mug-punter 18-30 tourist market has limits. I'm with #'s 8, 11 & 12 - lets have a very strong light into a dirty, festering corner, followed by some strong disinfectant in the form of an investigation by the Audit Commission and maybe even the Police - but independent of L & B.
15

Noods,

09/01/2008 09:13:32
"Only a late surge in demand – partly triggered by the announcement that the X Factor winner Leon Jackson was to appear – ensured they were all sold."

Whit a laugh, I needed that this morning. I think it was more to do with the strong rumour circulating that Noel Gallagher was to appear onstage with Kasabian. I know that's why a big group of my mates bought tickets at the last minute. Leon who?
16

Sheep Worrier,

Far far away 09/01/2008 09:16:58
I went once, hung around for half an hour and then buggered off to a house party.

I have met 1 person who actually went to it this year, and he's underaged and from Fife. Sounds to me that the locals have already decided to turn their back to this event. Give it back to the epeople and stop turning everything into a profit-making enterprise.
17

Bingowings,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 09:22:08
Why does this ridiculous negativity continue? The street party is a great event and is enjoyed by tens of thousands of people - all of whom spend money and boost Edinburgh's economy. A small percentage of tickets not selling is not an issue. The money brought into hotels, bars and businesses in the city IS.
18

Guthrie,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 09:27:49
The point is that people from Edinburgh are bored with the organised thing in the city centre. Plus the tourists don't seem too impressed either.

I hardly think that 5,500 unsold out of 17,500 is a "small percentage".
19

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 09:32:16
#17. People will still spend money. It can continue to be marketed for tourism but I think tourists are dissapointed at what they receive around Princes Street.

I think people are saying we should keep all else that makes Edinburgh Hogmanay except the final Street Party. Spread the stages from Princes Street to Holyrood Park, Inverleith Park, one in Princes St, and other venues plus put on a major concert earlier in Meadowbank etc and be a much better balanced programme, particularly for Edinburgh Residents who fund the fireworks.
20

stmonan,

London 09/01/2008 09:37:17
Seems to me the whole thing is run for the benefit of health and safety inspectors and hirers of crash barriers and the like rather than the punters. No wonder people stay away.

There is also a completely misplaced focus on tourists rather than locals when, in fact, visiting Scotland at New Year must be totally rubbish. Imagine it - one evening of over-organised 'fun' climbing over drunks in the city centre followed by 2 days wondering what the hell to do when everything's shut and you've paid £250/night for a mediocre hotel room you end up stuck in till 2nd January.
21

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 09:42:26
#17 - Some of this 'ridiculous negativity' comes from those of us who've worked on the inside of what's become an a monumental rip-off and a gravy train for a small clique; happy to keep spinning the myth that it 'generates (untold) millions for Embra's economy'. If that's the case, why does it continue to need public subsidy?
22

Dr Egg,

Old Edinburgh 09/01/2008 09:51:19
Can we have the Tron back please? We'll bring our own fireworks and booze.
23

Barnett Formula Admin,

09/01/2008 10:15:30
What about scottish "world famous" "iconic" banknotes?

Scottish Conservative MEP Struan Stevenson has accused the SNP Government of 'out-and-out hypocrisy' in the wake of Finance Minister John Swinney’s promise to write to Chancellor Alistair Darling demanding that Scottish banknotes be given equal status to English notes in England.

Speaking from Brussels, Struan said:

"The SNP’s demands seem completely ridiculous when you consider their real political agenda, which would take an independent Scotland into the Eurozone where Scottish banknotes would be banned.

"Alex Salmond used to work for a bank so he should know that the European Central Bank (ECB) produced a report way back in 1999 - the Report on the Legal Protection of Banknotes in the European Union Member States - which outlaws the issuance of banknotes by non-NCBs (National Central Banks, such as the three Scottish and four Northern Ireland banks) within the Eurozone.

"The SNP claims that distinctive banknotes issued by the three Scottish banks would be protected in the brave new world of the Euro, but the 1999 report makes it abundantly clear that no such deviation from the norm would be tolerated. The report claims that if the practice is allowed to continue it would provide the Scottish banks with some sort of commercial advantage over other banks through the ability to 'advertise their services through their banknotes'. They also claim that the different designs on Scottish Euro-notes would 'give rise to confusion in the general public' and would lead to 'distortions in monetary income calculations'.

"The SNP demands are no more than out-and-out hypocrisy, a charade aimed once again at opening up divisions between Scotland and England. While the SNP government maintains the pretext of trying to immortalise Scotland's unique banknotes, they are fully aware of the fact that independence would sound their death knell."


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24

Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 09/01/2008 10:27:50
Edinburgh's New Year used to be entirely a community event where thousands of Edinburgh FAMILIES would walk to Princes Street and meet many, many people they knew from all over town. It was free, it cost nothing and there were a few thousand pounds worth of fireworks. It was a lovely event, there was very little drink evident and children were often free to walk the street with their folks.

The entire event was hijacked by Pete Irvine's company as a money-making vehicle for him and his business cronies, in collusion with the Coooncil. It was then globally marketed to the back-packer and jet-set trade as a 'come to Edinburgh and get rat-arsed' for New Year. Result, Princes Street is now full of pissed Aussies and yanks. The Edinburgh -people largely stay at home - since they have been forced off their own streets by the invasion of global tourism.

Well done Edinburgh Council - what an achievement.
25

yolanda,

09/01/2008 10:54:51
I noticed that lots of these tickets were left unsold on eBay, some at ridiculous prices. Good to see that the touts didn't get the chance to rip the punters off this year.
26

Dancer,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 11:03:52
I fondly remember the Tron. It was a great laugh. After words there was always a party to go to. I have on many occasions woke up in my house after the Tron and found visitors that had tagged along for the party. No one seemed to know who invited them but they had a great time and were most welcome. The street party needs a break till the organisers can find a large sponsor. How about Richey Branson and his Virgins. We need some in Edinburgh at New Year.
27

Gothic Rose,

09/01/2008 11:19:06
26# Theres no going back Dancer.
28

PaulB,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 13:11:15
I think the main problem seems to be that the basic format has now been the same for several years - skating rink, big wheel, German market, street party. About time there was a re-think of plans for next year, as people are obviously bored with the same formula every year. Scale things down, let local people have more involvement, and stop barricading off the entire city centre every year - it's out city too you know!
29

roadstohell,

Embra 09/01/2008 13:39:51
Aye get rid o Irvine and his shower o chancers,gie Hogmanay back tae the fowk o Edinburgh. It is the ordinary fowk o Embra that are excluded fae their ain toon. So that a few fowk an businesses can mak a wheen o siller, nane o which really benefits ordinary fowk. Let Irvine & co pay for a venue o their ain,preferably far oot o toon, an gie Hogmanay back to the people.
Far tae lang hae we had tae put up wi chancers makin money oot o this event,and then getting the fowk o Embra tae pay furrit, are we a' mugs or whit ???
30

Dante's world looked rosier,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 13:40:25
#14 mince
#24 get over it

...and the combined rest give it a break. Deep down your probably all too old, miserable and bored in your works to be bumping your gums so much on this.
31

Gothic Rose,

09/01/2008 13:53:34
30# Beatrice says, Show a bit respect.!!!
32

Bingowings,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 14:53:16
#18 - it is 5,500 out of 100,000 - slightly different and yes, a small percentage.
33

Guthrie,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 16:42:10
Bingowings- I have no doubt that more £5 tickets could have been sold, but since I recall the year they got around 400,000 people into the area, following many years of growth, I suspect that the lack of sales of the more expensive tickets shows the current setup is past its best, and does not attract people.
34

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 16:52:19
I blame the over-zealous organisation of events like these. People are getting fed up with the party-pooping mentality of this council. No this, no that, no the other.

For instance, what if I'd turned up there with my own (substantial) beer supply and my silver tankard to drink it out of? Would I have been left in peace to drink it? Probably not. But that is what I would have wanted to do and it wouldn't have been a problem a few years ago.

As for the karaoke contest winner... they must really have been scraping the bottom of the barrel there.

Anyway, what is the difference between a "party pack" ticket and an ordinary one? the article doesn't explain.
35

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 09/01/2008 17:56:47
Well what's changed since the last street party? Well we have a new council administration - an SNP/libdem council. Well guess what - the latest street party was a complete failure. Fortunately I could see through their election manifesto lies and avoided them like the plague on polling day. Any clown who voted for these idiots have only themselves to blame for a Hogmanay party that was ruined by this inept council. Roll on the next election so we can get these wasters out!
36

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