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Published Date: 03 September 2008
The Scotsman continues its weekly Fanzone feature, where supporters of all 12 SPL teams give their views on the state of their clubs.
ABERDEEN

AFTER the magic of taking three points from our final visit to Love Street, and the 'Sone Delight' of transfer deadline day, it is a bit of an anticlimax to have an international break.

Still, it gives us time to refle
ct on the team's recovery from the worst start to a position three points off the top of the SPL. This is thanks to a 100 per cent away record that is a huge turnaround from last season, when we had worse form on the road than Richard Hammond.

And Willie Miller and Jimmy Calderwood proved again that they are the sorcerers of deadline day. While our message-board was distracted with thoughts of potential car-crash signings Gow or Riordan, the crafty gaffers conspired to pull Aluko from the hat.

This even trumps the previous transfer window trickery that brought in Stevie Crawford and Lee Miller, and if Sone finds top form he could be the first box-office player Pittodrie has seen since Moroccan magician Hicham Zerouali.

Craig Stewart
www.aberdeen-mad.co.uk


CELTIC

SUNDAY saw a few surprising and some not-so-surprising incidents.

The surprise was Artur Boruc uncharacteristically miss-kicking and throwing the ball away. At least three of those goals were preventable and even Mendes' strike should have been closed down if we hadn't persisted in backing away from our opponents.

The not-so-surprising was the battering ram technique and flying elbows of Cousin, the guy who previously hospitalised McManus. While the referee apparently called most incidents fairly, why did it take so long to spot the elbows? He sent Caldwell to the sidelines for treatment after one incident so must have been aware of what happened.

Other unsurprising categories were the persistent and disgusting songs of the visiting support, who then had the audacity to be offended by Artur waving a digit in their direction, poor souls. It was a hard lesson but if we learn from it, we will still go on and clinch four in a row.

Tommy Dornan
www.celticsupporterassoc.co.uk


DUNDEE UNITED

MOST Arabs were left with a distinct feeling of 'deja blue' after Saturday's home defeat to Kilmarnock. Having proved to be something of a bogey team for United over the past few seasons, Killie once again came to Tannadice and performed a smash and grab raid to take the points.

After an early volley from Garry Kenneth rattled the crossbar, we dominated the first half of a fairly dour encounter but Kilmarnock took their only real chance of the half clinically – something they repeated in the second half to go two up. For a season that promised so much, we now find ourselves with a disappointing two points from a possible 12 with a tricky visit to Easter Road next up. It's time for the players to start living up to pre-season expectations and start putting points on the board.

Finally, United fans were deeply saddened by the tragic death this week of former Tannadice and Motherwell stalwart Jamie Dolan. Condolences to his family and friends.

Hamish Mackintosh
www.dundeeunited-mad.co.uk

FALKIRK


LOSING a fourth league game on the trot was not what Bairns fans were expecting, and a general air of gloom has descended. However, as many of our injury ravaged-side return to fitness I refuse to give up on the hope that we are still more than capable of turning things around.

Saturday saw us once again lose the type of goals that we just did not concede in the past two seasons despite a great display from our Under 21 Austrian keeper Robert Olejnik who is growing in stature week by week.

Up front young Mark Stewart again proved he could be our next great find with an exquisite and deft finish to put the Bairns ahead. Elsewhere Kevin McBride is beginning to show the kind of grit and enterprise he lacked when he joined last season, and Jackie McNamara is oozing class, while John Stewart is working his butt off to prove worthy of his place.

It'll be tough next time out visiting an ever-improving Jambos side, but remember what they say about Falkirk – expect the unexpected!

Brian Guthrie
www.bairnstrust.com

HAMILTON ACCIES


TRANSFER activity saw the signing of French midfielder Stephen Ettien from Lyon, American midfielder Mike Vidiera from Duke University, and young Ipswich defender Chris Casement on loan.

Accies' best bit of business was conducted on deadline day itself with the capture of former Ross County defender Martin Canning from Hibs, a player we almost signed last season when he left Gretna.

It beggars belief that Hibs have let a solid and reliable defender like Canning go, to then replace him with Sol Bamba, who should have been given a league winners' medal from Accies last season such was his contribution to our campaign every time we played Dunfermline!

Less positively, Accies have dismissed assistant manager John McCormack after only a couple of months in the job, leaving Billy Reid searching for his fifth assistant manager in just over three years at the club.

Hopefully the rumours are true and ex Accies favourite Andy Millen is on his way to New Douglas Park.

Mark Falconer
www.setbb.com/acciesworld

HEARTS


EVEN the most optimistic of Hearts fans could have struggled at the beginning of the season to envisage the impressive start we have made under Csaba Laszlo.

Apart from the League Cup exit at the hands of Airdrie, the first month of the campaign has come as a breath of fresh air for a support who had become accustomed over the past three years or so to our club being in a state of turmoil.

To be just a point off the top of the table after four games is incredible, and while not quite as heady as the George Burley days, this is easily the most buoyant period we have had since May 2006.

The only negative is that we didn't manage to bring in a couple of strikers before the transfer deadline, as the lack of firepower is clearly undermining the impressive style of football Laszlo is trying to encourage.

For now we will have to pin our hopes on Mike Tullberg solving our attacking woes, but any such concerns will soon subside if Laszlo can keep us on the victory trail.

Frank Walker
www.jamboskickback.co.uk

HIBERNIAN


FORGET the defeat to Motherwell, forget the fact we only have four points from 12, and forget all the doom and gloom hanging over the message-boards like a dark cloud for the past week.

Yes, the speculation is finally over, Derek Riordan landed back at Easter Road this week, ending the Parkhead prison sentence imposed on him by the very irritating Gordon Strachan.

The joy which greeted the arrival of Deeks has certainly lifted the spirits of Hibs fans everywhere, and when added to the laughter generated by Hearts' pathetic attempt to sign him, it's almost made us forget last week's defeat. Throw in a raw but promising Sol Bamba along with the departure of Zibbi, Kerr and Canning, and it looks like Mixu now has his desired squad, so it's over to him to settle on a team capable of stringing some results together.

It would be churlish not to credit the board for backing Mixu with the cash for these signings, so hopefully Hibs can now concentrate and get the job done on the park.

Eddie Henderson
www.hibs.net

INVERNESS CT


WELL, what a group of youngsters we have coming through at ICT now. Jamie Duff, Iain Vigurs and Gary Wood have been the stars of the week in the Highlands. All helped to dump Arbroath from the CIS Cup in midweek (Vigurs scoring the decisive penalty), and they performed brilliantly, along with the rest of the team, to secure three points at Falkirk.

Club captain Grant Munro is still missing with injury, and may find it hard to regain his place in the team, as will Russell Duncan. The back four including Duff held firm, Vigurs linked well in the midfield, while Adam Rooney is starting to show just what he is capable of by creating chances for Wood – and vice versa.

Craig Brewster is finally showing his tactical acumen, bringing on experience in the latter stages with some key substitutions that, without question, won us the match.

A job well done this week by the management and players. If we continue like this, we could well be top six come season close. Superb!

Rob 'Gringo Jnr' Wilson
www.caleythistleonline.com

KILMARNOCK


WELL, for 24 hours we got to rib the Old Firm fans in Ayrshire about us being top of the league. While the Killie foot soldiers travelled to Dundee with no small amount of trepidation, the players had no such worries and put in another fine shift.

We are now officially the only team in the UK yet to concede a goal… and that's with a makeshift defence!

Kudos to big Fright (Frazer Wright] who was once again not to be beaten in the air.

We really seem to be gelling as a team now and the players are growing with confidence in every game. It was great to see even the players on the bench celebrating the win at Tannadice, which just goes to show how strong the team spirit is.

The strength and guile of our new midfield has been the difference as they support the front line and help out in defence and the league table shows that it is paying dividends already.

I know there will be tough times ahead, but our next game against Rangers can't come soon enough!

Barry Richmond
www.killiefc.com

MOTHERWELL


MOTHERWELL have now made a public response to the charge imposed by Rangers and Celtic.

Last season the Glasgow pair made five visits to Fir Park. Assuming they sold 8,000 tickets for each game and then withheld a five per cent administration fee to cover their costs, they could have taken around £40,000 from our income. If they pulled off the same trick with the rest of the provincial teams then they could easily collect £400,000.

It's a great money-making scheme, for sure. Their greed and self righteous pomposity knows no bounds. The response from Fir Park is to add £1 to the gate price for visiting fans of the Old Firm. What else could they do? We can only hope that the anger of their fans is directed at the financial directors at Parkhead and Ibrox.

The correct long-term reply from the other ten should be taken at the next SPL annual general meeting when they should propose a motion which would outlaw such a charge.

John Wilson
www.firparkcorner.com

RANGERS


MOST of us needed surgery to remove the smiles after Rangers battered their generous hosts on Sunday, and struggled to recall the last time we'd scored four times at Celtic Park.

Credit to Walter Smith for having the courage to play 4-4-2 and pairing Cousin up front alongside Miller, a gamble which paid off hugely.

In Pedro Mendes we have a new hero, a fulcrum oozing class and composure, and special mention to Steve Davis for his best showing yet in a blue jersey. That result should provide the springboard for the players and management to repay the Rangers support in the best possible way after letting us down with the Kaunas fiasco. The Rangers support out-sang seven times their number and backed their team magnificently.

A final thank you to Artur Boruc for his passable impression of a polo mint. Boruc proved once again by his infantile gestures that both he and his club are poor losers as well as ungracious winners.

Stephen Smith
www.theRST.co.uk

ST MIRREN


IT SEEMS our goal spree against Dumbarton in the League Cup was a false dawn. Against Aberdeen on Saturday it was back to normal with no goals and no points for our efforts.

Quite how we managed to come away with nothing is anyone's guess. We dominated the first half and should have scored twice, only for Billy Mehmet to miss two golden chances. With his confidence high after his cup hat-trick you'd have expected him to bury them – instead we paid the penalty for his wastefulness. Aside from the cup win it's been a poor start to the season. One goal and one point is not a good return after four games and is even worse than our start when we were relegated back in 2000/01.

Things have to change. We need to be more clinical and stop making costly mistakes at the back. We have a decent squad, but the way things are going at the moment there's a real danger we could find ourselves playing First Division football in our first season at our new ground.

Stuart Gillespie
www.saintmirren-mad.co.uk




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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

03/09/2008 00:14:19
Hearts attempt to sign Riorden was no more "pathetic" than the attempts by Leeds and Burnley. Classic Hibee chip on shoulder stuff there from Mr Henderson. No other clubs were willing to pay the fee required to prise him away from a club that didn't rate him (plus the crazy huge sell-on clause, which has made signing him very much a non-investment - most un-Hibs like).

And no-one else was willing to risk a lot of money on someone who could go for free at the end of the season. What's funnier is Hibs fans criticising Hearts for going for loanees, including Riorden, when the reason it's taken so long for them to get Riorden is that Hibs tried desperately, desperately to get him on loan. Good signing for Hibs, but are 15 or 20 goals worth unsettling other players and decimating the wage structure...

Good business for Celtic - worked the system very well by leaking Hearts interest and panicking Petrie into action. Not sure about the fauxhawk though - so last season - looks like Beavis or is it the other one?
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Wee Pal Joe,

03/09/2008 00:20:14
The most unsurprising thing is the sour grapes from the Celtic fan. The nonsense about Cousin, for example. He was harshly sent off, especially the first booking - ex-Celts Jim Duffy, John Hartson and Murdo McLeod have said so. The referee (who generally had a good game) seemed to cave in to the constant nagging of the likes of Caldwell and Brown.
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jerrymanders,

03/09/2008 00:31:00
#2

What about Cousin's elbow on Caldwell's eye socket? No replays at all and yet every conceivable angle for all other incidents. Rfc deserved to win but that is nowhere near the drubbing being reported in some papers. Your 3-0 win last season was a much better victory than this one.
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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 00:42:47
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It's just that they thought their club was going right down the swanny 2 weeks ago that they have lost all sense of proportion .

Actually there is , amongst some quarters of the laptoployalists, some measure of reluctant recognition that actually they were a bit lucky.

Any time Artur was asked to make a save, it went in the net...twas a freak but their delirium suits us.
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Wee Pal Joe,

03/09/2008 00:44:51
"What about Cousin's elbow on Caldwell's eye socket? No replays at all and yet every conceivable angle for all other incidents." (#5)

Do you reckon Irish broadcasters Setanta are conspiring against Celtic?

Caldwell injured himself trying vainly to rough up Cousin.
6

jerrymanders,

03/09/2008 00:48:30
#7

In no way could Coosarse be compared to Sutton and Hartson. BTW they got sent off too.
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Wee Pal Joe,

03/09/2008 00:53:21
"actually they were a bit lucky" (#6)

Hilarious stuff. Rather than living in a state of denial you should take a good look at your team. A goalie who is overweight and has various self-control issues. A defence who were run ragged. A midfield who were played off the park.
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kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 03/09/2008 00:57:23
Diappointing to note from the Celtic correspondent that the behaviour of the Rangers support is still at gutter level.

How long will it take for the authorities to either dock them 50 league points or preferably, ban them completely for a few years.

They are a disgrace and bring shame to us all.
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jerrymanders,

03/09/2008 01:00:07
#10

Er, that was actually your point I was addressing.
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jerrymanders,

03/09/2008 01:14:44
#14

Loser? You'll know the feeling.

TIAT
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Daillyman,

03/09/2008 01:15:14
5 jerrymanders

Winning at Parkhead 4-2 in my opinion was tougher to do than the 3-0 last season. Celtic give them their due,, are very tough to beat at home in big matches.

6 Helter

No delirium at all, the better team won on the day, and most unbiased football fans who watched the match would agree.

Long way to go in the league, but RFC have improved their squad, can Celtic say the same with the CL matches around the corner.
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jerrymanders,

03/09/2008 01:18:48
#16

You are on a high right now. Just like last season during your UEFA run. However, once the CL kicks in your players may just lack that spark because they know that they are not competing at the highest level. CIS or CL? It is going to be a long season.
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Daillyman,

03/09/2008 01:24:00
17 jerrymanders

As thing stand at the moment the only thing we have to play for is the league title.

Sure I would have preferred to be in Europe but these things happen in football, I am sure you remember Artmedia.

As it stands at the moment you have 6 CL matches to look forward and the money that comes with it. That my friend is the only thing that is guaranteed.
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Harlem Tam,

03/09/2008 01:26:10
I thought the behaviour of McCoist and McDowall on Sunday was absolutely shocking after the Cousin red card. The camera showed an apoplectic McCoist, his face purple with rage and the veins sticking out of his head and his neck (if he had a neck that is) and cursing like a trooper. McDowall was screaming in the face of the 4th official. Why do managers and coaches insist on bullying the 4th official at times like this? What do they expect HIM to do? - run on and reverse the decision?

Anyway, McCoist won't be at Rangers come christmas if he carries on like that while carrying such a large amount of fat. He'll be in a box six feet under.

Take it easy Ally, and how about joining the players in some weight training?
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Daillyman,

03/09/2008 01:27:23
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Hey Tam good job in setting up the mini league.
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kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 03/09/2008 01:40:18
Just thinking again about the Rangers support brought to mind my experiences over many seasons supporting Hearts home and away. I used to particularly enjoy the away games and the friendly banter you had with opposition supporters before, during and after the games.

All except Ibrox!!!

Visiting there, I was in a permanent state of apprehension and was always glad to get back out of the city. This was in sharp contrast to Celtic Park, Firhill, Shawfield and Cathkin.

The support at Ibrox (in the main), was so far down the evolutionary scale that it was truly frightening.

Sounds like nothings' changed.
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Daillyman,

03/09/2008 01:43:50
Helter

I have seen 3/4 of the tic matches this season, I missed the Falkirk match. Can you honestly say that you're team is playing good football.

Do you not think that a couple of quality signings qould have helped you going into the CL?

I know Sammi and Maloney were resigned, but with the amount of money the tic have (as we are often told)spending a few more quid on player is the least 60k supporters at every home match deserve.
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Daillyman,

03/09/2008 01:52:53
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Very tough to get a football answer from Helter.

Now if its sermons you want to read, he is the man.

BTO must say the sectarian chanting should be stopped.

Excuse my small sermon
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Harlem Tam,

03/09/2008 02:35:03
Rangers fans sang vile songs about . . .

The late great Jock Stein.

The Irish potato famine.

Catholics.

Irish.

Poles.

The Pope.

Not a word from the laptop loyal.

Boruc raises one finger in response to the vile chants and is now all over the papers and being threatened with sanctions.

That is why Scotland is known as a parochial, insular, sectarian and bigoted little backwater. The @rsehole of Europe.
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james 1st,

hamilton nz 03/09/2008 05:00:20
i see the celtic man complains about cousin, but no mention of venegoor, who i understand was sent of for kicking at an opponent, seems like celtic players are not all little angels after all.
i happened to be in a pub at the barras for the previous celtic rangers game as we were on holiday, i didnt make the mistake of saying i wanted rangers to win, and i can tell you that the celtic supporters there were worse than animals, the language and sectartian hatred stunned me as i came to nz as a kid in 1961, so any cetltic commentator who goes on about sectarian songs at the park i suggest that you get celtics house in order before you open your mouth.
if you feel that you are a neutral go along to the barras pubs next time celtic play rangers, go in and listen, but dont say that you are not a celtic supporter or the animals present will likely kill you, they would be a disgrace to any club
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Harlem Tam,

03/09/2008 06:33:02
It really does speak volumes about how far Celtic have been ahead of Rangers this century, that a Rangers victory at Celtic Park is greeted by the media as well as all Gers fans as a complete and utter shock.
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Harlem Tam,

03/09/2008 06:59:13
BTO - Any early skirmish has been lost and won, but the war is yet to be won and lost.
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

UK 03/09/2008 07:49:39
Typical sour grapes from the bad losers.
Rangers ran all over you.
How come Caldwell didn't complain?
It's a mans game and if your big pooves can't handle it they should take up ballet.
Borat has already....
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

UK 03/09/2008 07:52:12
#44 I don't think getting 3 points was the major shock, more the manner of the victory.
They ran amok, had more shots on target, the same off and MORE corners.
I can't remember the last time Rangers so utterly dominated celtic at the piggery.
That was the shock.
The fact that Sir Wattie out tactic-ed strachan again was no surprise.
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The Equaliser,

03/09/2008 08:14:29
12 Kiwidoug

It is so easy to criticise Rangers fans for their vocals and it seems there is open season on them perhaps with some justification.

Worryingly, fans of other clubs don't seem to receive the same level of criticism for their songs. When Celtic FC play Irish rebel songs over the tannoy pre kick off such as Let the People Sing without comment then we wonder what is going on.

At the end of the day Celtic too have their nasty bigots just ask Nacho Novo. The difference is that Celtic and their followers are in denial of their complicity in the whole horrible situation.
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victorian of gorgie ,

03/09/2008 08:16:44
typical of that hobo muppet to make a reference to hearts in his hibs fanzone piece, he can't avoid making some reference to hearts. even when they sign their prodigal son there's an underlying obsession with hearts just bursting to get out.

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Wee Pal Joe,

03/09/2008 08:23:07
I wonder when was the last time kiwidoug was at Ibrox (if indeed he's ever been)? Ibrox is a very peaceful place except for Old Firm games when things get heated on both sides. I've heard more complaints from Hearts fans about Parkhead in recent times. Then again, the Hearts support has its own unsavoury element.
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victorian of gorgie ,

03/09/2008 08:25:01
so rioters fans are still indulging in the same old - same old eh? no surprise. it's even less of a surprise that there was no mention of it in the popular media sources, given that there's an under-the-table agreement in place to hush these types of thing up.

nothing will result from the sfa, these parasites want a quiet life, why would they put themselves through the hassle of going after hard targets like old firm supporters behaviour when they have easy targets like romanov to pursue?

sectarianism, scotland's shame. the powers that be who tolerate it, scotland's shame.

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THE GHANA MAN,

ghana 03/09/2008 08:43:31
Some good comments today. Keep it up lads. I thoroughly enjoy the banter.I must say that on the day the Gers were a far better team. They were far more hungry for the result than Celtic.
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The Equaliser,

03/09/2008 08:57:45
42 James

This is the other side of the coin that is never reported. So why all the righteous indignation from the Bhoys and their media cronies? Its the jolly craic, thats why.
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Jambo-ree,

03/09/2008 09:40:09
#57 - said he casually ignoring the fact that over 50% of all football related arrests in Scotland last year involved supporters of Glasgow Rangers FC.

Anyway, you missed a word out of your post - it should have read "My views on Hearts fans have been clearly stated on this site TOO many times."
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Jambo-ree,

03/09/2008 09:44:59
#61 - And I told it. 50% - shameful.
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victorian of gorgie ,

03/09/2008 09:49:02
#63, i thought you would have been proud of that record. somehow it would prove that rioters have more fans than hearts, or something along those lines.

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DGSEVILLE2,

Northants 03/09/2008 09:51:51
Expansion strategy and cost savings.

What is the ABS strategy, the expectation is for growth but how? New markets/customers or sell more to existing customer base. There is no strong evidence of the former, and anyway what is the incentive to get new business in anyway rather than simply churn existing customers?



Some Celtic players had shockers on Sunday, the goal keeper was at fault for two of the goals and terrible marking for the other two.

The Gers deserved there win because they made the most of the chances they were given which is fair enough.

Having looked at the Pat Nevin analysis you can see why Cousin was sent off as well as VOH.

As for Celtic being in melt-down you must be joking! One good display does not win you the league, your squad is not stronger thqan last season (Hutton, Cousin, and Cuellar), while we will have a full season with Robson, Maloney is a good player and will deliver, and McDoanld will be back after injury, Boruc is unlikely to play so badly again, and Naka still proved he is the best dead ball player in Scotland. McGeady and Brown though have to step up to the mark but we know they can, and WGS may have to think again whether Mark Wilson has what it takes.

Yes Gers fans enjoy your victory, I'm still enjoying the fact that the Celts did so well in OF matches at the end of last season, we won the League, and we will be playing in the Champs League!
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celtc r atrocious,

sydney 03/09/2008 09:57:51
just loved the
edu edu
edu edu edu
song
but no doubt that will be seen as sectarian / racist
by the shons of satan
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Jambo-ree,

03/09/2008 09:57:54
#63 Not in the least made up - it was reported in the news section of this very newspaper just a couple of weeks ago. Truth hurts, eh?

#64 Yeah, usual line is we're bigger than anyone else in everything. Wouldn't argue with that on this point.
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Jambo-ree,

03/09/2008 10:09:54
#63 - For your edification:

"British Transport Police release details of all football related arrests over the last year:

"Fans from seven SPL clubs were arrested: Rangers, Dundee United, Motherwell, Celtic, Hearts, Aberdeen and Hibernian, as well as fans from Cowdenbeath, Hamilton Academicals, Dundee, the Highland League's,
Clachnacuddin, and supporters of Chelsea, Manchester United, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Two Chelsea fans were arrested for possession of drugs, Manchester United appear on the list as one of their fans was arrested for Breach of the Peace at Motherwell Railway Station. The Cowdenbeath fan was
arrested for Indecent Assault, perhaps the most serious incident during the season.

Celtic, Motherwell, and Hearts each had four fans arrested during the season, Aberdeen and Hibs had three. Dundee United were the second highest offenders with six arrests, while an incredible 30 Rangers fans
were arrested, almost half of the season's total for all clubs. These figures do not include those arrested at the Manchester riot in May, which British Transport Police refer to in their press release"
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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 10:14:19
"..while an incredible 30 Rangers fans were arrested, almost half of the season's total for all clubs.
These figures do not include those arrested at the Manchester riot in May..."

British Transport Police.

Scotland's Shame. Keeping up the longstanding traditions of racism, sectarianism and thuggery.
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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 10:25:01
Didn't UEFA tell Gordon Nice that if the sfa didn't start penalising Scotland's Shame for racist and sectarian behaviour by their fans, UEFA would intervene ?

Didn't that prompt Gordon Nice & Co to issue an admonition to rearrangerz for racist and sectarian singing at Inverness ?

Didn't Gordon Nice & Co then spend months trying to find some pretext to get Celtic into the dock in order to 'balance the books' ?

Having failed to make anything stick, haven't Gordon Nice & Co. decided to revert to their decades old 'non intervention strategy ?

Haven't Gordon Nice & Co. shown themselves to be averse to the implementation of UEFA's instructions ?

After the filth of Scottish society went into overdrive on Sunday, and the absence of any criticism or even acknowledgement of that by Gordon Nice & Co. , hasn't the point been reached when UEFA should say 'YOU'VE HAD YOUR CHANCE. YOU HAVE NOT FOLLOWED OUR INSTRUCTIONS. YOU HAVE TAKEN NO EFFECTIVE ACTION TO PENALISE THE BEHAVIOUR OF SCOTLAND'S SHAME. WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO INTERVENE ?

Send your comments to info@uefa.com
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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 10:34:30
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They are probably too busy investigating the umpteenth sectarian assault on Neil Lennon by Scotland's Shame elements at the moment....as soon as they get to the bottom of that, they can look into an address being posted on a website.
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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 10:39:26
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That really puts the Manchester riots to shame.
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Survivor Of Riots,

03/09/2008 10:42:15
Neil Lennon may be poised to quit his job.

Artur Boruc suffers 90 minutes of sectarian abuse every time he plays ReaRangers and everyone of Irish Catholic descent is encouraged to go home by the hoardes of Raging Ranger Syndrome Sufferers.

Nothing said, nothing done:

"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me."

Well done Scotlands media, well done the SFA,well done the players union.



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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 10:44:59
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You mean a remarkable job of making you look stupid.
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Wee Pal Joe,

03/09/2008 10:46:01
Supposed figures on arrests from British Transport Police actually come from a Celtic fans' website.
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Survivor Of Riots,

03/09/2008 10:47:16
83 - that type of factual info is unlikely to ever be published in Scotlands Nazi Supporting Media
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Invisible,

03/09/2008 10:47:55
#71 Personally, I was most impressed that Setanta were able to edit all of the sectarian singing out of their live transmission, and replace it with tamer songs and general crowd noise. It's almost as if there was no sectarian singing at all...
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03/09/2008 10:48:24
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SOR

If you feel that Gordon Nice & Co are wilfully closing their ears to Scotland's Shame and thus wilfully failing to implement UEFA's instructions, you should consider drawing your concerns to the attention of UEFA .

info@uefa.com
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Survivor Of Riots,

03/09/2008 10:52:35
73 - Doesn't merit a reply...if you can't see what is happening in our country then more fool you.

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03/09/2008 10:52:49
UEFA will not intervene proactively.

They will only take an interest if the situation is brought to their attention.

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alloa 03/09/2008 10:56:59
the year 2008,and still talking about superstitious pseudo religion,my whit a cauld wee country scotland is.
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rorie,

alloa 03/09/2008 11:06:24
and now, will the congregation please stand and join together to sing hymn number 1690, "the sash kevin barry wore".
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03/09/2008 11:08:15
97 - just don't have any public demonstration of your (or your families) faith in the process.

See no evil, hear no evil.
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:14:16
come on now boys, get it together, if gerry and big ian can sup fae the same bowl, so can we.
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Jambo-ree,

03/09/2008 11:15:12
No wonder most OF threads get closed down. What a load of bigoted sectarian cr*p and what good reflection of life in Weegieland.
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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 11:15:35
Glad to see that Neil Lennon has found the inner strength to lodge his umpteenth complaint complaint of sectarian assault in Scotland.

The police have confirmed that they now regard it as a sectarian assault.

CCTV images of Ashton Lane at the time of the attack are now being studied and enquiries are continuing as police seek to identify the two sectarian cowards who attacked Lennon from behind by striking him on the head with a weapon.

After Lennon fell to the ground, the cowardly thugs kicked him unconscious, and potentially life-saving first aid was administered by an as yet unidentified member of the public.

I hope these cowards are traced. They will spend the next few years of their lives in Barlinnie in mixed company....some will want to shake their hand whilst others will want to cut it off.
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gothenburg1983,

03/09/2008 11:15:41
Isn't there a website solely dedicated to old firm "fans"? I'm sick of reading their posts - Nothing about football most of them.

Moderator of these boards - Please remove this vermin from your site. It only makes your newspaper look worse.

Good start to the season for the Dons apart from opening day. Two decent away wins and a deserved draw against Rangers.
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rorie,

alloa 03/09/2008 11:22:23
hello gothenburg 1983,welcome to these boards,will you please turn your watch back to 1690.
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gothenburg1983,

03/09/2008 11:25:40
i did see the game. Deserved draw. Second half was pretty even.
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:28:13
wee chesney's learning to talk wi' a geordie accent.
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:29:28
109, would that be edgar allen poe you are talking about?
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:31:39
109, and i have not mentioned rangers.
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:33:16
nineinro, i take it you are a celtic fan, since they were the first to do nineinro.
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:34:08
nineinro, and i have not mentioned the pope.
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gothenburg1983,

03/09/2008 11:35:23
yes. that's correct.
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:40:51
kevin barry was a medical student that i read about in a history book!
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:50:40
and we all know what happened on the first of july 1690,don't we?
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Jambo-ree,

03/09/2008 11:50:58
#125 Interesting little musical twist that the words to Kevin Barry fit exactly into the tune of The Sash.
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Jambo-ree,

03/09/2008 11:51:35
#127 - The Edinburgh Trades started?
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alloa 03/09/2008 11:59:24
129, 130. baith wrang.
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

UK 03/09/2008 12:05:48
I think SDM must have been reading all the celtic dim-wits slagging him off (aye right) thus prompting him to out-spend the bheggars YET AGAIN!
If only they had kept their mouths shut instead of reminding him of his duty..." for every fiver celtic spend...."
He spent millions on Velicka, Lafferty and left them on the bench.
It was only celtic they were playing after all...!
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

UK 03/09/2008 12:07:28
Paddy McCourt...
Samarse....
Who else did Liewell splash the cash on?
I hate it when Rangers are skint and can only spend 15 million.
Oh to bring back the good old days...
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dundy 03/09/2008 12:11:31
UNited were rotten against Killie...but Killie had two chances and scored them and we missed 3-4 good chances and looked inept at breaking down a not fantastic defence....it could be a long season at Tannadice...
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Survivor Of Riots,

03/09/2008 12:27:16
136 - Well done Stev0.

You may be the scvm of society, but at least you have the baws to say exactly what the ReaRangers fanz meant with their disgusting banner.
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Invisible,

03/09/2008 12:27:58
#136 Stev0 - I'm sure he won't, as he was a fine man. You, on the other hand...
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Chas Niceass,

03/09/2008 12:39:32
#127 Hibs won a cup? Might as well have been, no Focker remembers anyway.
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Helter Skelter,

03/09/2008 12:45:29
It wasn't so long ago that every little laptoployalist worth his bowl of winalot was lambasting Celtic fans for singing a derogatory