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Doctors back mix of private and NHS treatment



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Published Date: 10 July 2008
PATIENTS should be allowed to buy drugs unavailable on the health service without having their free NHS treatment taken away from them, doctors said yesterday.
In an emotionally charged debate, delegates at the British Medical Association (BMA) conference in Edinburgh said they agreed in principle with co-payments – topping up NHS care with additional private treatments.

But they stopped short of immedia
tely demanding that UK governments bring co-payments into the NHS, instead calling for a Royal Commission to review the implications.

It comes after a growing number of patients have seen their NHS care removed because they want to buy extra drugs that could extend their lives.

NHS rules state that during a single course of treatment, patients cannot be cared for by the NHS and pay for part of their treatment privately. This results in patients paying privately for all their care, including scans and blood tests.

The Westminster government is conducting a review of co-payments to decide whether they should be allowed on the NHS, while the Scottish Government has also said it is looking into the issue. Last week the head of the BMA in Scotland, Peter Terry, told The Scotsman he believed that not allowing co-payments on the NHS was "inhumane".

There was fierce debate yesterday among doctors about whether co- payments should be permitted or whether it would lead to a two-tier NHS. Dr Stephen Austin, from the BMA's consultants committee, asked doctors to imagine sitting in front of a patient for whom other treatments had failed, but a drug not available on the NHS might help extend their life.

He said the difficulty lay in telling them that if they chose to pay for the treatment themselves, they would have to pay for all their NHS care.

Dr Austin said not allowing co- payments widened the gap between rich and poor.

Gordon Matthews, a surgeon from Buckinghamshire, said he was speaking in favour of co-payments as a doctor but also as the husband of "a most cherished wife" with advanced colon cancer. He said a tax-funded system could not provide limitless funds for very expensive drugs, so it "must be acceptable" to allow people to pay for treatment.

But many doctors said co-payments would be a move away from the founding principles of the NHS, with treatment based solely on need.

Dr Jacky Davis, a consultant radiologist, of London, said drug companies would "put pressure on vulnerable patients" if co-payments came in. She said: "If we vote for co-payments, we will be voting for NHS charges."

Dr Kevin O'Kane, of London, described the motion on co-payments as "a nail in the lid of the NHS coffin".



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  • Last Updated: 09 July 2008 9:48 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Health of the NHS
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 00:33:29

ABSOLUTE RIDICULOUS STUPIDITY!!

"Whys that wise One?"

'Charles will tell you WHY!

"Please, Please Do, Wise One!"

Purchase your "Drugs" over the internet, for a less lot Money!

And Dont tell your Doctors Anything! get your,,..

'Free Treatment' at the same time!

Problem Solved!

"Thankyou Wise One, one day I will think like you"

'Of-Course' you will! Charles Knows these things!

2

Christine MacLeod,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 06:54:25
What an idiot. Take privately purchased drugs and not tell your doctor?
Have you never heard of drug interactions and incompatibility? Your suggestion Charles, is like playing drug Russian Roulette.
And how would it be if 2 patients in adjacent beds were getting different treatment: one who can afford it, one who can't?
3

Phil C,

10/07/2008 08:12:19
#1 Charles - ABSOLUTE RIDICULOUS STUPIDITY!!

If you can't trust your doctor in deciding treatment you don't deserve to get well. If they can't trust you, then you should be struck off their list for wasting their precious time. Have you not heard that many drugs available online are bogus anyway?
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 08:20:22

Christine ~2,

Not as "Idiotic" as you think!

'Of-Course' you don't purchase, 'any old drugs' you get the same ones from Russia, Poland or South America at a fraction of the cost over here, the NHS are exploited over here by the Drug Companies, hence they cost Fortunes.

.......................

"And how would it be if 2 patients in adjacent beds were getting different treatment: one who can afford it, one who can't"

Soo what? one gets well, one does not!

and if Doctor Asks, just say,....

"How can this be Doctor"?......(simple!)

Its the only resolve, until it gets sorted out, unless one wants to die, that is.
5

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 08:29:16
Phil C ~3,

Believe in your Gods all you want, did you not read the article,?

"drugs that could extend their lives."

Maybe you would not want your life extended, then that's your choice,

Better the 'something' than nothing atall!

...............

If one See's one 'Knocked down by a Bus' are you the type that would say,..

"Leave them, nothing I can do", because you not a Doctor?

Or would you 'TRY' to 'HELP' before the Medics get there in say, an hours time.? (remote area)

Your Choice, between life and Death, your Choice!
6

Andrah,

Embrugh 10/07/2008 09:57:19
The success of the pharmaceutical and health care industries in producing innovative products and services (which are inevitably expensive) has caused a serious dilemma for a publicly funded health service serving an increasingly ageing population. It seems crass not to allow people to purchase these. As an example, some years ago when my son was sitting critical school examinations, and suffering badly from hay fever, I tried to get his doctor to prescibe a new "miracle" product that had become available. He was happy to provide "chalk" and other useless products on the NHS but refused to consider this new one due to its cost. Consequently I got a GP friend to write me a private prescription and paid £35 for a small bottle of the stuff. What a bargain, in that it worked wonders for my son and his exams. As a society we have this expectation that drugs must be cheap or free. On the other hand many would not bat an eyelid spending £35 on a nice meal or a night on the bevvy.
7

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 10/07/2008 12:11:18
Charles Linskaill

I would not put my complete trust in drugs that can be purchased over the internet. Many of them are bogus and could harm or even kill you or your DYW. You have to be very, VERY coareful about anything bought on the internet unless the goods are from and internationally reputable firm.

There ARE other ways of getting medications not covered by your NHS that may save peoples" lives but you would have to do your own research to find the sources.
8

ddmc,

10/07/2008 20:07:35
why can we use private healthcare for operations, consultations, diagnostic work etc but unable to buy drug treatments ?
9

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11/07/2008 05:01:30
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