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Thousands join call for abortion limit cut



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Published Date: 21 May 2008
TENS of thousands of people have signed a petition to call for a cut in the time-limit for abortion.
Hours ahead of the crunch vote, a 60,000-strong petition was handed in to 10 Downing Street by a woman whose mother rejected doctors' advice to abort her.

Antoinette Okoiye, 17, from Chingford, east London, is now an A-level student hoping to go
on to read English at university, as well as a carer for her mother, Clothilda, who is wheelchair-bound because of childhood polio.

She said her narrow escape from termination convinced her of the need for a total ban on abortion.

"My mum contracted polio when she was one year old and, because of that, when she became pregnant with me the doctors in the hospital in north London advised her to have an abortion," said Ms Okoiye.

"I am just happy my mum said 'No', otherwise I wouldn't be here," she added. "I think abortion should be abolished, full stop."

However, supporters of the existing law also signalled their determination to fight the attempted changes from the pro-life and religious lobbies, with 93 MPs signing a cross-party Commons motion stating the current limit was "scientifically and ethically justified".

Signatories included the former Lib Dem leader Sir Menzies Campbell, former foreign secretary Margaret Beckett and Frank Dobson, the former health secretary.

Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, who also backs the status quo, said: "The medical evidence has not changed, and that is why I will support the 24 weeks. I respect all the views that people have on this matter. That is why there is a free vote."





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  • Last Updated: 20 May 2008 9:29 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 00:31:56

We know so much more now about, 'Baby in the Womb' than we ever could imagine since the last abortion act, and still have allot to learn.

One thing for sure, at 24weeks your "Baby" IS a PERSON!

If the limit is not reduced with a clause for,..

*'Under very special circumstances'*

You may aswell let the Mother go 'full term', give birth and ask,..

Do you still want your 'Baby' She/He has only, 'one eye', will we let 'Baby' just Die,?

A 'Baby' developed at about 12weeks, after this it is a case mainly of, Grow, Grow, Grow,

At about 18-20 weeks Mummy feels 'Baby' kicking and moving around and now used to the new like in her Womb.

The 'Baby' can here the 'dulcet tones' of their Mum and most new evidence shows your 'Baby' can feel pain!

In my view if you want to live in the 'Dark Ages' of 40years ago and turn a 'blind eye' to what we all know about a 'Baby' at 20-24weeks,

You may aswell bring back some of the atrocities we used to carry out, (your a witch get burnt at stake).

My next page is for true info.

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 00:41:43
12weeks,
Your baby is now fully formed but needs the next six months to fully mature. Your baby is roughly the size of a plum and is starting to move his or her fingers. You still cannot feel your baby moving because she is so tiny. Your baby's eyes are completely formed and now move round to the front of the face. The bones are growing, although they are still soft cartilage at this stage. The placenta now takes over as your baby's life-support system. It will filter oxygen and nutrients into the foetus from the mother's bloodstream via the umbilical cord.

18weeks,
Your baby can pull complex facial expressions such as yawn and pull faces and can even frown. Your baby's bones are forming rapidly, adults have around 212 bones but foetuses have more as they fuse together later in life. Your baby will be able to grasp his or her hands, touch the cord, and suck his or her fingers and thumb. Fingers, arms and legs can all be flexed.

21weeks,
Your baby now weighs half the weight of a tin of beans. Talk to your baby, as he or she will hear your muffled voice. Your baby can swallow amniotic fluids, some experts believe this gives the growing baby some essential nutrients. Your baby is steadily gaining fat in order to keep warm.

24weeks,
At 24 weeks your baby becomes legally viable and if your baby was born now she would have a reasonable chance of survival outside your womb in an intensive care unit.

Your baby will now be able to kick and may well have a sleep and wake cycle you can notice. She may get hiccups brought on by her primitive chest movements, which she makes to practice her breathing techniques. Your baby will now measure more than the width of a magazine.
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Son of Loki,

The Dark Side 21/05/2008 07:18:36
When I was 17 I jokingly said to my mum, couldn't you have had me in 1964 instead of '65, then I could go out to the pub without borrowing my brother's ID. She told me that if she had known sooner then yours truly wouldn't be writing this post!

I spent several years in therapy because of my parents. Whenever I hear the abortion debate I turn to the most wonderful piece of scripture. Psalm 139:13-17

A friend is getting an abortion, not for any health reasons or a danger to the baby. They are getting an abortion because having a baby right now is inconvenient to their lifestyle.

The moment conception takes place God sees you as a living being.

Stay alive people, it's the only way to live

Loki Jnr
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 08:25:18
Son of Loki @#6,

Lets Not hide the Psalm,


| Psalm 139 |
13. For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
14. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. [1]
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15. My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16. Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them.

17. How precious to me are your thoughts, O God!
How vast is the sum of them!
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911 was an inside job.,

21/05/2008 09:01:38
I think people who demand 'choice' for women are forgetting that they had the choice to keep their knickers on before they got themselves pregnant. These evil wiches are selfish, and they shouldn't be allowed to murder their unborn babies.

It's a sign of the times that the state s encouraging this sort of evil. Destruction will surely come upon these people.
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911 was an inside job.,

21/05/2008 09:03:01
BTW, pro-abortion women are dirty little Jezebels.
10

Boy Wonder,

21/05/2008 10:39:30
Another article ruined by crazed pro-lifers!
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Charles Linskaill,

21days away from our possible Dream come True! 21/05/2008 12:06:09

Boy Wonder!
'Less off it' :D

Ill give you "crazed" alright!
12

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 12:08:46
Well, the loonies certainly got their come-uppance today, didn't they?

Go away and do something useful for a change. Stop tryihg to meddle in other people's lives by dabbling in a subject you know nothing about.
13

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 21/05/2008 12:12:37
"BTW, pro-abortion women are dirty little Jezebels."

I think you just won everyone over to your side! Well done!
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 13:30:41
#13:

That comment is typical of the mis-informed lunatics that supported this bill.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 14:33:32
#14,. Agree and a strange Reverend at that.
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BrianHill,

Edinburgh 21/05/2008 17:21:53
I have never been comfortable with abortion. I haven't met a woman yet who doesn't have any regrets about her abortion.

In theory it's billed as 'the woman's choice' but from what I've observed, father's and boyfriends seem to play a much bigger role in the decision process.

Certainly if abortion must happen it should be no longer than 20 weeks at most, personally I would prefer 12, 16 at most.

What baffles me is that there are tens of thousands of childless couples who want to adopt a baby and here we are killing off tens of thousands of babies (200,000 in 2006 alone).

Hello??? Would give life to the baby for adoption purposes be too simple a solution?

Meanwhile we have this crazy, totally over the top 'keep the child safe at all costs' nonsense which is smothering children and leading to the worse behaved generation of indolents in history and I have no doubt most of it is a psychological quid pro quo.....yes we kill them off when it doesn't suit our purposes to have them but hey, look, we love them so much we barely let them out into the sunlight....all for their own safety of course.

 

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