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Guns seized at city store



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Published Date: 16 February 2008
REPLICA guns have been seized by police in a raid on one of the city's biggest tartan gift shops.
The imitation pistols and rifle were taken from the Gold Brothers' store on South Bridge, which sells a range of replica weapons alongside tartan souvenirs.

The fake guns confiscated are believed to include a replica Lee Enfield Rifle – a weapon used by the British Army until the 1960s – and two imitation Colt Peacemaker pistols, which were originally made during the 1890s.

Galab Singh, the shop's owner, said police had visited as a part of a "routine inspection" but declined to comment further.

A Lothian and Borders Police spokeswoman confirmed "a quantity of replica weapons" had been recovered from the store on Wednesday afternoon and said inquiries were ongoing.

The manufacture, import and sale of realistic imitation firearms is illegal under the Violent Crime Reduction Act, introduced in 2006. The maximum penalty for carrying a replica gun in public is 12 months in prison.

Neil Wallworth, a former employee of the Gold Brothers, said he had tipped off police after becoming concerned that the sale of the replicas was illegal.

"To all intents and purposes, people would think these are real guns," he said. "People on the street wouldn't know they are replicas. They could be used in a crime and the public wouldn't know the difference."

The 38-year-old, who worked as manager at the company's Lawnmarket store until two weeks ago, claimed the guns were put on sale at 107 South Bridge after he threw them out of the Royal Mile shop.

The Singh Gold family, who trade as the Gold Brothers, have a chain of gift shops in the city. The family is one of Edinburgh's most spectacular business success stories, having built a multi-million-pound empire since setting up a market stall in East Fortune, East Lothian, in the 1970s.

Today, they own a number of stores in and around the Royal Mile. Their other business interests include an indoor market in Kirkcaldy and a property rental business in the Capital.

Known as "the kings of tartan tat", last month, the Gold Brothers began selling kilts for £19.99 in an attempt to undercut supermarket chain Lidl, who stocked kilts in the run-up to Burns night.

Police forces across the UK have reported a growth in the number of imitation weapons being converted and used to kill and maim.

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill has called for firearms legislation to be devolved to Scottish ministers after it emerged that firearms casualties north of the Border rose by a quarter last year.

The number of attempted murders using guns is almost three times that of a decade ago. Police chiefs in Edinburgh have warned they fear someone will eventually be killed as a result of people brandishing realistic looking imitation weapons in public, as they are almost impossible for police marksmen to tell apart from genuine weapons.


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  • Last Updated: 16 February 2008 1:44 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Gun crime
 
1

Russell,

linkhills 16/02/2008 11:33:45
I agree
2

Russell,

linkhills 16/02/2008 11:34:19
take off their kilts too
3

Russell,

linkhills 16/02/2008 11:35:01
and from liddles their german
4

Russell,

linkhills 16/02/2008 11:36:41
you want a real kilt then pay the price and keep our industry home grown
5

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 16/02/2008 12:21:53
THese shopowners are immoral and dangerous. CLOSE DOWN THE SHOP! It sells tacky tartans and now replica guns, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

Some people will do anything to make a fast buck/pound.

Have they now shame? I sincerely do not think so.

BOYCOTT THEIR SHOP and PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS!!!
6

Rv3!,

Edinburgh 16/02/2008 12:26:47
I was just about to go get me some 9mm stock as my sporran is getting low again. Must learn to aim better.
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Snoop Dogg,

westside Edinburgh 16/02/2008 12:52:36
I used to have a shop in Edinburgh and i remember a time when just about every shop in the royal mile had sold replica guns in it including mine.

its not the fault of the retailer selling the guns,its the people that buy the guns if they use them wrongly its there parents fault for bringing them up like that send them to prison.

In-fact send the people selling drink and fags to jail cause there doing a worse job.
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Londonroadguy,

nearby 16/02/2008 13:44:32
#12,Couldn't agree with you more but unfortunately I think your post will be removed.
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Snoop Dogg,

16/02/2008 13:47:03
i think the SOCK OF EDINBURGH needs to be put in a mental institute u need to take a chill pill and stop being a racist and get a life u stupid idiot.
14

Alberto.,

16/02/2008 13:52:48
"The manufacture, import and sale of realistic imitation firearms is illegal under the Violent Crime Reduction Act, introduced in 2006. The maximum penalty for carrying a replica gun in public is 12 months in prison."

So will he / they be 'awarded' a prison sentence in accord with the quoted Law - or shall we see an 'Alexander' situation applied to it (to save someones face!) as she committed an illegal act, and admitted so - but managed to be in favour with 'some' friends in her Political Club (presumably 'a man who knows a man etc.,,)and that was that -job done, carry on Wendy!!
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L,

Edinburgh 16/02/2008 13:57:38
It certainly is a cracking picture
17

Jachscall,

16/02/2008 13:58:40
Couple of points:
No shop should be allowed to sell Replica guns/swords,especially to anyone under 21.If this shop has broke the law then throw the book.
Also, it may be sour grapes by an ex employee but i've seen loads of shops selling similiar,what are the feds doing about it???
18

Alberto.,

16/02/2008 14:06:13
I cannot help feeling that an 'Alexander' will not be applied in this case!

The situation looks very clear and 'ripe' for a hefty fine (perhaps they may go wild and award also a slap (Hard mind you!) on the wrist! A twofold advantage here to boost the authorities accounts - much more satisfying these days, after all 'breaking the law is fairly commonplace and quite acceptable nowadays - politicians are doing it all the time, so what the hell, collect when you can!
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 16/02/2008 14:39:34
Their real crime is tartan tat. Never seem to get banned from playing far too loud music, council seems to accept it though???
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alien vs predator,

never never land 16/02/2008 15:24:01
DAMN THIS GUY IS UGLY HE LOOKS LIKE A F**KED UP MR BLOBBY ANYONE AGREE??????????? ANYWAY LEAVE THIS CASE TO THE COURTS IF IT EVEN GOES THAT FAR AND AS FOR THESE KILTS FOR £20 THERE GREAT IV GOT 2 WORE THEM TO THE RUGBY ITS A REAL CHIK MAGNET TRY IT FOLKS MAY NOT WORK WITH PEOPLE LIKE NEIL WORMWORTH ONLY GOD CAN HELP U MA PAL
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 16/02/2008 16:08:29
it's unbelievable that there's a fuss about a few toy guns.

This looks for all the world like the reaction of superstitious tribes to demonic objects.

It's time we grew up.
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little scottish angel,

one scotland many coultures 16/02/2008 16:10:01
#25 well said
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Jim A,

16/02/2008 16:36:05
Is the sale of these replica deactivated guns only illegal in Scotland? Reason I ask is if you follow the link I've posted, it sells replica and deactivated guns just click on guns for sale you'll see deactivated guns.
http://www.guntrader.co.uk/
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Exiled Leither,

16/02/2008 16:39:46
I went to school with one of their Daughters, Have to say that these comments are shocking! If evry one from Leith was like them then perhaps leith wouldn't be sutch a sh*t hole that is now having to reinvent itself as a metrosexual paradise. An industrius family who have done well for themselves and should be congratulated for that. selling toy guns? hardly crime of the century is it. Toy guns are harmless and I know I for one would prefer to be robbed with a toy gun than a real one or a knife! Nazi police that should be jailed and all you racists as well...
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Tony from Tile-it-all,

UK 16/02/2008 16:41:59
I am a collector of replica guns.I Bought a replica rifle from one of the Gold Brothers stores It came with a certificate proving that it has been deactivated. Selling deactivated guns is legal whats the big problem?
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AndrewS,

Edinburgh 16/02/2008 16:44:35
How are you meant to play cowboys and indians without Colt 45, and do a commando raid ?
29

I'mallymax,

orwellian nightmare; pigs and toys. 16/02/2008 16:44:51
Yeh, the cops in scotland are too much now.How is it they are allowed to go around scotland shooting the feck out pigs, (oxymoron), but the citizens of scotland are charged with having toys?

The police in scotland need audited for operation, finance, and service; after all they are supposed to be our public service institution, not a personal crown office force for angiolini to rip the pi** out of scotland.
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Tony from Tile-it-all,

UK 16/02/2008 16:57:12
and he does look like blobby u hit the neil on the neil head lol
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 16/02/2008 16:58:49
29/30 - it's called ethics and the age we live it. I must presume you don't care!

What are the council afraid of with these Gold Brothers? It seems they have their own rules! All the tat etc they bring to the city and con tourists we can do without. Surely the council can do something now.

It shows its all money money money with them and not a care in the world for anybody or anything else.
32

I'mallymax,

Orwellian nightmare; testimony fixing. 16/02/2008 17:02:35
"advocate-depute John Beckett, QC, said though he had just turned 15, a transcript of the interview showed Mitchell had been able to stand up for himself. "Indeed, he mocked, ridiculed and insulted officers," he said.

Mr Beckett can't seriously believe this!

And another thing, the cops are expert at plying loaded statements from anybody, nevermind a kid.

Mr Beckett, don't you have nightmares of doing the devil's work?



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Tony from Tile-it-all,

UK 16/02/2008 17:03:14
#33 do u have proof they con people???? or do the gold brothers have a spell on the tourists which make them buy tat havent u ever thought maybe they want these souviners.
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 16/02/2008 17:07:13
Don't be silly with your spells etc. I've spoken to numerous tourists who had bought items thinking from the sales talk that they were scottish produce only to find a little label saying the opposite!

Think of would they sell anything made in scotland? I don't think so
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Tony from Tile-it-all,

UK 16/02/2008 17:25:39
why chat sh*t u silly c*nt call trading standards or have the gold brothers payed them of too. uv spoken to tourists aye i know there shops well i think uv got it in for these sucessful guys.
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Iain's,

16/02/2008 17:56:05

Oh dear , here they go again.

Fact. Nobody has ever been shot by a replica gun.

Also it is not illegal to carry a gun in public. I have even seen Prince Charles do it. And he had evil GUN DOGS at his heel!


However, the police have a right to kill anyone brandishing a replica gun in order to commit a crime.

p.s. I was given a real Lee-Enfield to play with at school. Thank God the police in those days did not panic at the sight of children armed with real guns in the school playground. If they had, Columbine would have looked like a Sunday school picnic!
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Iain's,

16/02/2008 18:00:48

pps. I also saw a wee girl dancing with two evil replica swords at a highland games. The useless police did nothing!
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 16/02/2008 18:11:01
# your commentsay more about you than anything else. I'm sorry you appear uneducated and are rude in your comments.

One thing is certain truth has to be told and it doesn't matter how successful you are if you break the law then you are in the wrong.

Perhaps you are another who appear to do as you like instead of obeying the law!

Before swearing again look in the mirror but perhaps you don't know better.
39

Happyhibee1956,

16/02/2008 18:30:49
#13

Presume that you are working for the gold brothers or a complete tw@t.
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 16/02/2008 18:40:10
41 comment refers to #37!

42 - I suspect that are some of the so called gold brothers on here otherwise we would not see these comments.
41

RTL,

Edinburgh 16/02/2008 19:07:13
"Neil Wallworth, a former employee of the Gold Brothers, said he had tipped off police"

This say's it all, a spiteful and nasty ex employee out to get revenge and cause as much damage as possible to the employers that paid him the wages that put food on his table.

I do not know the Gold bros, but I will certainly remember Neil Wallworth,former employee of the Gold Brothers, if he ever applies to my company for a job
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Edinburgh's Leith All Stars,

Edinburgh 16/02/2008 20:04:09
Don't close the shop down, people will get a hold of these replicas anyway. The internet is full of real let alone replica firearms. I disagree with the calls for the shop to be closed, they should just take the firearms away and have the owners fined. Mr Singh is a very nice man aswell who i have met many times.
43

valleyjim,

The Anchor Bar 16/02/2008 20:17:17
#44 Can't help but agree.His pic seems to say it all. A very nasty piece of work if ever I saw one. Messrs Gold Bros. was good enough to keep this moron in employment. I think he will find it difficult to secure another post with his loyalty record.
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 16/02/2008 20:51:49
45 and 46 - totally disagree with you.
# I would suggest Mr Singh knew exactly he was breaking the law and perhaps thought he was above it. The city wont collapse without his businesses!.

#44 how you can say such comments I fail to see, except that you must be looking in the mirror and talking of yourself.

he is to be admired for telling the truth and he will have no problem securing work. Fear or reprisals must stop alot of others doing the same thing!
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COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 16/02/2008 23:34:23
MR.SINGH SHOULD BE SINGING JAIL HOUSE BLUES BUT IBET HE DONT BECAUSE HE IS A NEW CITIZEN OR DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE LAW DONT SPEAK ENGLISH ITS RACISM THE LIST GOES ON AND ON
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Andy Duncan.,

17/02/2008 00:09:26
# 48 I think you are having some trouble with the language yourself.
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Edinburgh's Leith All Stars,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 00:33:51
#48. I mean this in the nicest way possible: F*uck off!

1. He has commited no crime
2. I would easily say he is as scottish as anyone i see on the sreets.
3. He speaks perfect english. Just because his name is Singh doesn't mean he can't speak english.
4. Its not racist to send people with non-uk names to jail.

You my dear boy are a pillock
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nell from falkirk,

17/02/2008 08:55:22
The standard of comment on these forums has been gradually declining for some time, but most of these posts hit rock bottom.

Anyone reading this thread could be forgiven for thinking that the ability to express a coherent point of view in grammatically correct, properly spelled English, without the use of profanity, blasphemy, or expletives is no longer to be found amongst "Scotsman" readers.

Scotland has a minimum of eleven years of compulsory education - so how have we come to this pass?
49

Jenny MacArthur,

17/02/2008 09:29:54
What this really shows is the business ethics of the unscrupulous rip-off merchants who run these places. Anyone who shops there is a mug.
50

Allan(handofgod137),

17/02/2008 12:20:18
If the neds get hold of them, then they'll have toy guns. Judging by the way gun crime has risen, despite the fact that the handgun ban was going to stop it all together, if the neds want real guns they'll have no trouble getting hold of them.
51

"Scotty",

Usa 17/02/2008 18:09:28
The quality of their "goods" is horrendous - - tacky, tacky, tacky. The poor tourists who buy the stuff.
52

is it me?,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 21:14:52
#51
Well said nell.

Who are these people ?

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Waspy100,

17/02/2008 23:37:03
when we were in Casablanca a few years ago on our travels the shop had a sign "postcards 50p each three for a pound" so we bought some postcards and had a brouse. The back wall was covered in guns on display. Replicas I asked? no real thing was the reply if you want one we can ship it no problem
I left with the postcards
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Julian,

EDINBURGH 18/02/2008 00:25:43
#50 Edinburgh's Leith All Stars,

Normally I would say the comments you made were over the top but, said against that nutter, I would have to say this is an exception and they are justified.

#47 Jingsitsme,

"he is to be admired for telling the truth"

Just a pity he hadn't done so when he worked for the place.
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Julian,

EDINBURGH 18/02/2008 00:27:36
#50,

The sad thing is that you have probably excited the guy with your response. He gets off on p!ssing us all off:-(
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rigel,

18/02/2008 02:16:47
hi volks.
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Julian,

EDINBURGH 18/02/2008 03:27:50
Rigel,

From what I could understand of your rantings (and it wasn't much), you sound like a very troubled individual.
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Ron D,

Edinburgh 18/02/2008 09:40:34
Given that you now have to be 18 to buy a water pistol this sort of nonsense looks great on the police "gun crime" statistics - much easier than tackling real crime.
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Ellen,

Edinburgh 18/02/2008 10:06:10
"Toy guns found in toy shop" just wouldn't have the same impact.
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 18/02/2008 11:55:27
well lets just hope the gold brothers are prosecuted and dealt with. We in the business world don't need those types with no ethics.

There shop is tat and it would look more at home at East Fortune on a market stall instead of ripping of anybody who buys anything in it.

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Tony from Tile-it-all,

UK 18/02/2008 12:27:13
jingsitsme i think u should go to east fortune and work hard maybe one day i might drive fancy cars lamborghinis ferraris and bentleys and rolls royces like the gold brothers
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helo wooly ba-ding,

gunchester 19/02/2008 14:28:40
most entertaining. if not a little hypacritical
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Mince, tatties and guns.,

Edinburgh 24/02/2008 23:24:19
The manufacture, import and sale of realistic imitation firearms is illegal under the Violent Crime Reduction Act, introduced in 2006. The maximum penalty for carrying a replica gun in public is 12 months in prison.

^^ Utter, utter, w*nk. You can buy a replica as long as you are 1; A member of a re-enactment group, 2; A certified film, television or museum official, or 3; an airsoft skirmisher. You can buy any replica without the aforementioned requirements as long as said replica is of a design dating before 1870.

It's just another excuse to sieze replica weapons that could be otherwise enjoyed by us law abiding collectors.

The gun fearing wussies need to get rid of illegaly owned real guns instead of toys. NUFF SAID!!

 

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