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$265,000 spent on treating mall killer



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Published Date: 08 December 2007
STATE authorities spent $265,000 (£131,000) attempting to treat Robert Hawkins, the teenage gunman who killed eight people in a shooting rampage at a department store in Nebraska on Wednesday.
Hawkins spent four years in treatment centres, care homes and foster care after threatening to kill his stepmother in 2002.

Finally, in August 2006, social workers, the courts and his father agreed it was time for Robert Hawkins to be released -
nine months before he turned 19 and would have been required to leave anyway.

On Thursday, while some of those who knew Hawkins called the massacre at the busy Omaha mall unexpected, not everyone was surprised.

"He should have gotten help, but I think he needed someone to help him and needed someone to be there when in the past he's said he wanted to kill himself," said Karissa Fox, who said she knew Hawkins through a friend. "Someone should have listened to him."

Todd Landry, the state director of children and family services, said court records do not show precisely why Hawkins was released. But he said if Hawkins should not have been set free, someone would have raised a red flag.

"It is my opinion, it was not a failure of the system to provide appropriate services," Mr Landry said. "If that was an issue, any of the participants in the case would have brought that forward."

After reviewing surveillance tape, a suicide note and Hawkins' last conversations with those close to him, police said they do not know - and may never know - exactly why Hawkins went to the Von Maur store at Westroads Mall and shot more than a dozen people.

But he clearly planned ahead, walking through the store, exiting, then returning a few minutes later with a gun concealed in a rolled-up sweatshirt he was carrying, authorities said.

Debora Maruca-Kovac, a woman who with her husband took Hawkins into their home because he had no other place to live, told the Omaha World-Herald that the night before the shooting, Hawkins and her sons showed her a semi-automatic rifle. She said she thought the gun looked too old to work.

Police believe Hawkins was using that AK-47 when he stormed out a third-floor lift at the store and started shooting.

Police said they have found no connections between the 19-year-old and the six employees and two shoppers he killed.

"The shooting victims were randomly selected," as was the location of the shooting, Omaha Police Chief, Thomas Warren said.

Acquaintances said that Hawkins was a drug user and that he had a history of depression. In 2005 and 2006, according to court records, he underwent psychiatric evaluations, the reasons for which Mr Landry would not disclose, citing privacy rules.

In May 2002, he was sent to a treatment centre in Missouri after threatening his stepmother. Four months later, a Nebraska court decided Hawkins' problems were serious enough that he should be under state supervision and made him a ward of the state.

He went through a series of institutions in Nebraska as he progressed through the system: months at a treatment centre and group home in Omaha in 2003; time in a foster care programme and treatment centre in 2004 and 2005; then a felony drug-possession charge later in 2005. Mr Landry said court records do not identify the drug.

The drug charge was eventually dropped, but he was jailed in 2006 for not performing community service as required.

On 21 August, 2006, he was released from state custody.

Under state law, Mr Landry said, wards are released when all sides - parents, courts, social workers - agree it is time for them to go. Once Hawkins was set free, he was on his own. He was not released into anyone's custody. "When our role is ended, we try to step out," said Chris Peterson, director of the state Department of Health and Human Services.

About an hour before the shootings, Hawkins called Maruca-Kovac and told her he had written a suicide note, Maruca-Kovac said. In the note, Hawkins wrote that he was "sorry for everything" and would not be a burden on his family anymore. More ominously, he wrote: "Now I'll be famous."

Mrs Maruca-Kovac said on CBS network's The Early Show, "I was fearful that he was going to try to commit suicide, but I had no idea that he would involve so many other families."

The shoppers killed were Gary Scharf, 48, of Lincoln, and John McDonald, 65, of Council Bluffs, Iowa. The employees killed were Angie Schuster, 36; Maggie Webb, 24; Janet Jorgensen, 66; Diane Trent, 53; Gary Joy, 56; and Beverly Flynn, 47, all of Omaha.

GUN CONTROL OFF AGENDA


ONCE again there has been a mass shooting in the United States. Once again there is no national outcry from any party for gun control.

The right to bear arms is fiercely defended as a constitutional right by large numbers of collectors, hunters and advocates of home security, cherished the way civil libertarians champion the right to free speech.

Yet the issue is controversial enough to draw in the US supreme court, which said last month it would review an appeals court ruling that struck down a 31-year-old ban on the private possession of handguns in Washington DC.

"Although people who favour increased gun control in the United States are a substantial majority, those who oppose it are far more intense in their opposition and far more likely to vote on the basis of that issue alone," said Bill Galston, senior fellow at the Washington-based Brookings Institution.

'I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE A BURDEN'


ROBERT Hawkins scrawled: "Just think tho I'm gonna be ******* famous," before he went on a shopping mall shooting spree, killing eight people and then himself.

His three-page message, released by police yesterday, reflected love for his friends and family and hatred for his random victims.

"I know everyone will remember me as some sort of monster but please understand that I just don't want to be a burden on the ones that I care for my entire life," he wrote. "I just want to take a few pieces of **** with me."

Hawkins left the note on Wednesday at the house where he lived, before he went to the Westroads Mall and opened fire in the Von Maur store.

The first page of the note was for his friends: "I love all of you so much and I don't want anyone to miss me just think about how much better you are off without me to support."

In the second page, addressed to his family, he wrote: "I've just snapped I can't take this meaningless existence anymore I've been a constant disappointment and that trend would have only continued."

He added "I love you mommy. I love you dad", and expressed love for several other people.

The third page was his will: "I'm giving my car back to my mom and my friends can have whatever else I leave behind."



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  • Last Updated: 07 December 2007 11:56 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Gun crime
 
1

Catie,

London 08/12/2007 02:07:24

Just another Coward with a Gun supported by the National Right to Annihilate (www.nra.org) and the Guns Owned Party.

2

Scullion,

Canada 08/12/2007 02:40:25

When Americans enter Canada they are asked if they have any firearms; when Canadians enter America they are asked if they have any fruit/veg.
The U.S. is a great country in many respects but the powerful lunatics in the NRA that froth at the mouth when assault rifles or handguns (an assault rifle-what do you expect to do with that?) ensure that this appalling episode will happen time and again.
Psychopaths are everywhere, we certainly have them in Canada (the anniversary of the Montreal massacre is coming up), but it is the public indifference in America to this slaughter that is the most terrifying part of this and like tragedies.

3

ShawnL,

California, USA 08/12/2007 02:45:56

The comments about gun control are absurd. First, the vast majority of Americans support the civil right to own firearms. Second, the number of Americans killed by firearms is relatively small compared to other forms of death, such as traffic accidents or alcohol induced causes. In fact, the number of deaths related to alcohol is about 100 times the number of deaths related to guns. Why don't the same people who want to prohibit gun ownership want to prohibit alcohol consumption? Instead, they are willing to sacrifice a few hundred thousand lives (in the United States) each year just so they can have a beer. These are the real fanatics.

4

Free american,

US 08/12/2007 02:56:43

Blaming a gun for killing is like blaming the spoon for making Rosie FAT. Get a grip, the tool is not the problem, it's the motive. This kid's life was wreck. Stop looking for the quick fix.

5

chriskh,

USA 08/12/2007 03:01:32

Catie, Yes, yes, yes, you go girl.
But don't forget the Coward with a Car supported by Insurance Companies and those Car Manufacturers. Drive one of those malevolent things into an airport terminal? Banish that evil vehicle, and all the rest of them from the road - FOREVER. And the driver? A useful tool of that instrument of destruction. Kill the car! Kill the car!

6

AlexS,

BFE Illinois 08/12/2007 03:08:50

Euro Peons and its colonies, stop talking about the NRA and keep your focus on the IRA. Europe constantly creates a mess of the world and everyone is forced to clean it up...Africa, the Mideast, S.E. Asia, S. America and on and on. You come in, colonize, rape and pillage...then leave the land bare for the natives to scratch out a living. The U.S. has been and will be the hitman for you, and we come packing...so STFU, stand behind us and put some of those euros (we don't take dollars) in the back pocket while you stand there while I protect you with my GUN...Don't compare a poor deranged kid(s) to grown, sane, adults who enjoy fine weaponry. If the citizens of Omaha were allowed to carry, they could have stopped the guy. To be completely honest, most people in this country have weapons to defend ourselves from our own government, because they listen to european bankers.

7

Smokr,

Amurika 08/12/2007 03:18:45

Yes, I spelled it the way I wanted to. This kid should never have had access to a firearm of any sort, let alone an automatic rifle. What was he doing with it? If he had been in psych counseling, he shouldn't, BY LAW, have even a bb or pellet gun. Who gave a disturbed teen an AK-47??? That person should be in jail as an accomplice! Further, if every person in that mall had a personal firearm, the kid would have gotten one or two shots off before being nailed by a legal firearm owner, therefore saving several lives.
Don't ban guns, ban people from giving lunatics guns. And anyone who does, goes to jail for the crimes committed with that gun.

8

Scullion,

Canada 08/12/2007 03:20:26

#3,4,5,6
When is the next meeting of the Michigan Militia?

9

Still Free for now,

Florida 08/12/2007 03:30:02

Maybe if some of the employees or shoppers had been carrying, he could have been stopped. Unfortunately, the mall was a "gun-free zone" (ie. a barrell full of ducks). Isn't it funny how these things tend to happen where guns are prohibited? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315563,00.html

10

georgeo,

Canada 08/12/2007 03:43:20

I find it rather sturbing that ht media do not get down to the bottom of this gun carnage coming from more often than enough disturbed young individuals who have been subjected to such diseases rhat do not exist namely A,d,h,d, etc , all a hoax according to neurologists and qualified medical experts who do not but the message being pushed by drug reps going from Dr dor to Dr door pushing prescribed drugs ,
The tragedy at Westroads Mall is just a tip of the iceberg about to be unleished upon the unsuspecting people at large reason very simple giving children prescribed psychiatric drugs is a disaster in the making , some 5 million children are being drugged to the hilt according to statistic , ask anyone that can read ask to see monograph of the drugs this young lad was subjected to throughout his chidhood and teens , Ask a capable qualified Pathologist to examin tissue in brain outcome would depermine that this young man has more deposit of metabolic toxicity ,it is possible his cytochromes P450 were under attack from toxicity , toxicity could well be expected to be sever folds higher than Big Pharma claims in the soft sell game ,
Many children are unfortunately being drugged to the hilt why would this be is it because all Medical individuals are free agents , being paid on prescription volume , like samesman selling insurance good as last sale mentality , so the medical insustry is geared to sell sell sell
Children in Norht America are being used a commodity for billing either goverment or insurance ,,
Outcome ,,,carnage, suicidal tendencies as outlined in monographs TARGETS usually the most vulnerable in society are targeted namely single moms with children and elderly Manufacturing Madness with Cruel Compassion

11

masterblaster,

Northern Hemisphere 08/12/2007 05:59:04

Hey there #9, "Still free for now"

Pretty slick response you've got there, it almost sounds like you got it from a media source ...

Actually it's not "funny" that "these things" happen at all, regardless of where they occur.

What's sad is that this never would've have happened at all if these weapons were prohibited.

Let me put it this way .... by your logic, if everyone was armed, there would be no gun violence at all. By my logic, if no one was armed there would be absolutely no gun violence.

You can argue the difficulty in banning these weapons from a predisposed populace to defeat my argument, but it is still clear that without guns, no one can be shot. I mean guns don't kill people right, it's people with guns who kill people ....

I'm sorry if I try to suppose and describe your real desire in this tragedy inaccurately, but I suspect you and many of your like-minded brethren dream of the day when you may be in a mall, or a school, or an airport, or a park, with your smith & wesson, and you can be the hero, and you can show all those bad guys what happens when real americans stand up.

Oh #9, if you had only been there, legally with your 9, you could have blown his head off. But instead a bunch of whining liberals just let it happen, and you don't have a tear to shed for them now.

Why does common sense have to be politicized and why don't politics have any common sense?

To end gun violence today we have to start with the guns.

12

George F,

08/12/2007 06:25:45

#6 AlexS, Mideast, S.E. Asia, S. America, your having a laugh, right? The Mideast, not exactly doing a great job there mate. S.E. Asia, as I recall your guys left that a certain country there in a shambles for the Commies to take over and lets not even get started on South America mate.

You come in, colonize, rape and pillage...then leave the land bare for the natives to scratch out a living.

Yep I'm sure the folks on the reservations know exactly what you mean.

13

keystone,

wisconsin USA 08/12/2007 14:07:55

Let everyone remember, that guns DO NOT kill people, but maniacs with guns do kill people. And from this instance the world AGAIN has proof of the ongoing collapse of what was once a decent society, American society. This collapse is happening due to society pandering to every perverted instinct that the PC mad crowd foists on society, such as gay marriage, no respect for human life, VIOLENT video games, no rights to religious expression, allowing the country to be INVADED by immigrants, both legal, and ILLEGAL, corp. titans STEALING BILLIONS, while the middle class is being destroyed, and on and on and on. The world has a front row seat to view the US being SACRIFICIED and DESTROYED at the altar of PCness. And act two may well be this PC mad country becoming totally balkanized.

14

BMCG,

08/12/2007 14:50:03

#14 – if you are tired please have a rest. Your analogy to prohibition is accurate in one dimension – addiction. Guns are far different from knives. The disturbed felon in this case would not have been able to afflict the same amount tragedy with a knife. Please do not insult our intelligence.

15

Still Free for now,

Florida 08/12/2007 14:56:57

#11:

1) Not trying to hide my "media source"; the link is there

2) Not funny - haha, but funny - peculiar. I guess I wrongly assumed those reading here have at least a high school level reading comprehension.

3) You say: "What's sad is that this never would've have happened at all if these weapons were prohibited." THAT is funny - haha.

16

Bien E. Bien,

08/12/2007 15:11:31

To those who would argue: that if the perpetrator did not have access to a gun, then this tragedy would not have happened. I say: absolutely.

To those who would take that opposite view: that if everybody else in the vicinity was also armed, then this would tragedy would not have happened. I say: not likely. You'd would just get a few more rounds fired off and a few more people caught in the crossfire.

17

Joey Pica,

Astride a Small High Horse 08/12/2007 15:41:48

Of the last 9 USA presidents only two have been shot and only one has actually died.

18

Joaquin Softly,

Georgia, USA 08/12/2007 16:25:47

For most people in most places in the U.S. the self protective nature of an armed populace allows for an existence free of the fear of crime or intimidation. The exceptions are bloody and highly publicized.

One of the things I treasure the most about where I live: I do not have any fear of crime, and I never carry a weapon. I do not even lock my car doors at night. Of the 50 homes in my neighborhood, I would guess that 20 contain firearms.

My sister lives in France; she reports a retreat behind iron bars every night, and hopes that the bars are not stolen by morning. The Europeans anticipate and even accept that they will be the victims of crime.

We do not tolerate that here.

19

tomi,

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 08/12/2007 16:37:47

It sounds simple, ban all guns and there will be no gun violence. Britain did that, has it stopped all gun violence there? NO!! People with criminal intent now use knives. would banning all knives help? No!

Prisons have the strictest control of weapons and of objects that could be used as a weapon, but even in that environment persons who are determined to injure or kill another do so.

Almost every object can be used to harm someone, even a feather pillow can be used to suffocate. Should we then ban everything?
Or, to elimate the human element,we could just have every person in the world living permanenly in padded cells wearing strait-jackets?

We know that it is not the gun that causes violence, just as the knife does not in Britain either. How do we know that? Here in the United States there are millions of guns, Yes! millions of them! Freely acessable to millions of people, yet these millions of guns do not go out onto the streets and shoot people.
Just like that sharp knife in your cutlery drawer has not gone out and stabbed someone.

The common element in all these kinds of attacks, Omaha, Virginia Tech, Collumbine etc. is the disturbed person who does them, these are not normal people, because normal people do not do these kind of things. It is not that normal people are incapable of doing, or at times "hate the world" and would like to "just kill them all", But they don't!
In most cases, these perpetrators have shown many signs of mental disturbance beforehand, depression, suicidal thoughts, previous act of violence, cruely etc. Some seek help, some don't, some have even been in the social care system, but not enough was done to help the person and prevent their urges and the execution of them.
Although their actions are wrong and should be wholeheartedly condemned, and they should be punished to the full extent of the law, it is a tragedy that these people do not get the help that they need

20

cowan,

08/12/2007 17:37:47

AlexS, 6,
I usually find your countrymen generous and open minded, you seem to be different.

Look into history and you will see that the US has a history of backing the wrong side and inflicting damage on a massive scale. The US supported Saddam Hussein then dumped him, they supported Bin Laden then hunt him. You should have supported Castro to have more influence over Latin America, you should have suppoerted Ho Chi Mihn of North Vietnam when he asked for help after WW2 in setting up his country. That would have been a better long term investment against the Chinese. Did you know that the constitution of North Vietnem is almost the same as the US one?

Some day soon the Arabs will be asking for payment for oil in Euros or the Chinese, who own your country, will refuse to accept greenbacks. Watch out then.

Your Administration's foreign policy is dictated by two small countries, Israel and Tiawan. Who is the fool?

Check your own Constitution and amendments ref the right to bear arms, it is a debeatable issue but then we can't take the toys away from the boys, or girls.

From a distance we cannot understand why two cities like Seattle and Vancouver have such a huge difference in gun crime. Only 3 hours apart, same coast, same people, same number of guns, same TV, same passion for hunting, presumably the same incidence of mental health and drug problems. One is in the US, one is in Canada - could that be the difference?

In every war the US fought in there was one rule worth noting - don't stand in front of a Yank with a gun - and that was from your allies.

Could you 'have stopped the guy' if private citizens were 'allowed to carry'. How many innocents would have been slaughtered?

And a final word on the IRA. They were financed by Americans, dollars killed innocent people. Get up to date with current affairs and you will see that they are now part of a ligitimate government.

21

The USA Patriot,

The united States of America 08/12/2007 18:21:52

To all, just to clarify, the shooter did not have an automatic weapon, it was a semiauto.

To #22 As I recall The USA backed GB during the great WW. Would GB still exist if the USA not got involved supported the right side? I also recall that the Southeast Asia confilict that you speak of was first supported by the French and others before the USA was ever involved. Maybe you shoould get your facts straight.

The constitution and the toys for the boys and girls you speak of, It is because of the British the constitution exist and gives us that right. And by the way, boys an girls can not own them, It is men and ladies. We do have age requirements.

As far as checking the constitution, English scholars, experts, have reviewed the language of how the US Constitution was wriiten and confirmed that it is the right of the people to bear arms. Not only is it in the US Constitution but also in almost every States Constitution.

In reference to being able to stop the guy, Whille CCW Permit holders and license holders are not Police officers, in the years that they have existed, and the States that they exist in, the crime rate is lower. There has also not been cases where shootouts have happened and innocent bystanders killed or injured. Ther have been cases where a License holder or Permit holder have stopped similar incidents.

If WWII were to happen today as it did before, would GB and it's citizens be better able to defend theirselfs? I guess the stick and stone would not help much against firearms.

You appear to be Anti American and against ownership of firearms, everyone has an opinion and in our great country we are entitles to it. My question to you is how are you going to protect yourself when the bad guy comes for you or a family member? Call the police, yes, they will get there, probably 5, 10, or 15 minutes after you are dead or injured. If another country wants to invade you, are you going throw rocks at them and put up sig

22

Tricia,

08/12/2007 18:38:28

Being an anti-gun nut and strong opponent of the NRA, I'll probably need a flack jacket for the following comment. Why should an unstable person who needed so much help and who threatened to kill his stepmother be eligible to purchase a gun? Think how many fewer guns would be on the street if people had to pass a mental fitness test to carry one. Even some of the posters on this sight would be excluded. Oh happy day!

23

cowan,

08/12/2007 19:08:35

24,
I am not anti American and have many good friends there. Until I read the comments about this newspaper article I had never seen so much bully- boy-gung-ho in print.

Your knowledge of the Vietnam war needs polishing, about the incident in the gulf on Tonkin, fabricated so that the US could justify subsequent actions.


'girls and boys' is a turn of phrase, we lack the sensitivity to be so politically correct.

We can all quote statistics, can all pass opinion because our great countries entitles us to do so but the truth is that our countries, through our governments, tell us what they want us to hear and manipulate the media so that entertainment becomes news and the truth is hidden away.

'when the bad guy comes for you' is a fear as old as the world, when people lived in the mouths of caves and feared the monster who lived in the depths of the cave 0- the boogie man. The humans feared a monster who could pounce on them at any time and God was invented to account for the good times, the bad times and to keep the population under control.

Having an automatic weapon or a semiautomatic weapon makes no difference. Of course you have the right to bear arms and the right to have learned people explain to you that the Constitution allowed for that but you must accept that Europe is allowed to look on and wonder why this is allowed to go on without any government intervention.

Remember too that we may pay nearly $10 a gallon for our gas - but we got healthcare and remarkably little of that is used in treating gunshot wounds.

24

BMCG,

09/12/2007 01:10:12

22 - sorry to report no holes exist- my points stands as made - your ego and ignorance seem to preclude your ability to comprehend.

25

Big Tex from Arkansas,

09/12/2007 01:23:31

Why did this idiot have an AK47?

The AK108 is a far better gun and he could have taken out most of the center with a couple of large clips.

26

Lloyd,

Music City, USA 09/12/2007 04:45:01

#25, Tricia:

This person did NOT purchase the gun used. He took it from a relative.

There is a long list of people who are not able to purchase guns. No doubt, this one's name is on that list. It contains names of felons, mental patients, and others deemed by medical and legal authorities to no longer have the right to own a firearm. Every gun store is required to compare the ID of a potential purchaser against this list before a gun can leave the store -- and it's a three-day wait between initiation of the transaction and its conclusion.

27

Stratty,

14/12/2007 01:12:29
He was just ANOTHER poor kid on prescribed mind altering drugs that can cause homicidal and suicidal ideation. 1. http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3994022&page=1 and 2. http://www.ksfy.com/news/12237446.html . Not surprisingly, the mainstream US media are trying not to draw attention to it.
28

Stratty,

14/12/2007 01:16:01
ZOLOFT homicidal ideation. Pfizer kicked someone off their clinical trials on day 11 because he became homicidal and suicidal, but on their 'official report' failed to mention it. See http://www.ssri-uksupport.com/PfizerZoloft1983.pdf
29

Stratty,

14/12/2007 01:18:49
While I'm commenting I might as well include this: http://www.ssri-uksupport.com/SchoolHomicidesOnPrescription.pdf and this: http://www.ssri-uksupport.com/homicidesSSRISandADHDmedications.pdf

 

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