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Published Date: 26 October 2008
By Eddie Barnes
THE organisers of the Barcelona Olympics are to be recruited to help deliver Glasgow's Commonwealth Games, under plans to be unveiled by SNP ministers next month.

Ministers are preparing a visit to the city where they are expected to sign a deal under which the expertise of those behind the 1992 Games will be borrowed. The team will also be asked to develop ideas on how to create a legacy for Glasgow's ga
mes, due to be held in 2014.

However, sports industry sources have raised eyebrows at the move, claiming ministers have singled out Catalonian partners to emphasise both their nationalist aspirations.

It is understood little or no contact has been made with successful organisers of the last Commonwealth Games, in Melbourne. Nevertheless, the Barcelona games were widely held to be a huge success, offering a platform to the area, but also leaving a lasting impact on the city.

Organisers of the Glasgow games hope that a similar ripple effect will be felt across Scotland before and after the games here.

A Government spokesman said: "There is an existing protocol of cooperation between us and with Catalonia, and the Scottish Government values the relationships that we have with our friends and neighbours in Europe."

He added: "We are looking at arrangements for a visit to Catalonia towards the end of the year. Studying the experience of the fantastic 1992 Barcelona Olympics in terms of the legacy benefits, as we prepare our own legacy plans for Glasgow 2014, is one area of common interest that we will certainly wish to discuss with the Catalan authorities."







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1

madabbot,

far away 26/10/2008 00:27:00
What about help for the people in Glenrothe why nothing about that race taking place in the new town.
2

Matt there,

Somewhere 26/10/2008 03:05:42
"sports industry sources"

WHAT "sports industry sources"?

Your drunken mate who used to jog to work doesn't count!

Nor does a Labour Party stooge.
3

Rufus T. Firefly,

26/10/2008 05:36:26
So the Snp cant even organise a Commonwealth games, without running cap in hand to somebody.

What a joke of a party it is.
4

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 07:08:38

However, sports industry sources have raised eyebrows at the move, claiming ministers have singled out Catalonian partners to emphasise both their nationalist aspirations.

It is understood little or no contact has been made with successful organisers of the last Commonwealth Games, in Melbourne.

Emm Isnt Austrailia an Independent country then? and didnt they aspire suceesfully to become independent from the UK?
5

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 07:10:16
4

Hasnt the UK government no run cap in hand to the private sector? the lottery? and Scotland in order to hold the Olympics in London?
6

Mikey,

26/10/2008 07:30:46
Parcel, ignore the clown from Freedonia. He has nothing to say and if you ignore him, he becomes a laugh as he gets more desperate for a reply!
7

Grahamski,

Falkirk 26/10/2008 07:40:29
This SNP administration has previous for meeting odd and unsavoury people for advice. In January of this year Linda Fabiani met with Mohammed Sawalha from IslamExpo to discuss next year's Scottish 'Islamic' event.

Mr Sawalha is a former military commander of Hamas whose murderous terrorist campaigns have killed countless innocent people.

Our UK government withdrew support from the parcel of Muslim Brotherhood rogues involed in IslamExpo when it became apparent that they were anti-semitic, fundamentalist bigots.

Why did the SNP meet with them and then give them almost half a million pounds of OUR money?
8

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 07:45:44
9

More than half the worlds leaders can be classified as terrorists. And more than one terrorist has found his way into 10 Downing street on one pretext or other.
9

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 07:51:53
8

He will only change to another logon.
10

We are responsible for ourselves.,

26/10/2008 08:17:14
Can you imagine the dry humping from the dependence junkies if the Scottish Government had sent a fact finding team to the other side of the world to research the lessons of Melbourne?

Barcelona's regeneration as a result of the 1992 Olympics is the nearest and best example of turning what was a rather squalid, impoverished area into a vibrant community with sympathetic development.
11

W Smith,

Middle East 26/10/2008 08:28:41
#9 Grahamski

GOOD POST!

The provo SNP can't support the Scottish lads serving in Afghanistan as they claim, falsely, its an "illegal" war.

Nothing that Hamas gets up to is "illegal" then, eh Salmond?
12

Ross,

Athens 26/10/2008 08:33:49
I think it is a shame that no basketball will played in Glasgow for the Commonwealth games especially when you see some of the other sports played.
13

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 08:44:32
13

Has anybody produced any evidence yet that Osama Bin Laden was ever in Afganistan? and wasnt it the Americans who first introduced Al Queada into Afganistan? whats the basis for the legallity of the Afgan invasion again? apart from it being Israelli foreign policy?
14

Roy,

26/10/2008 08:45:25
"However, sports industry sources have raised eyebrows at the move, claiming ministers have singled out Catalonian partners to emphasise both their nationalist aspirations."

And the Labour Party awarded the design of the Scottish Parliament to...?
15

scottish person,

Paisley 26/10/2008 08:47:47
Rufus t, Why dont you just f##k off and try and read a few papers before sounding off against the SNP. You are as boring as that other unionist pr##k bring them on'
16

Jeeemy,

St Andrews 26/10/2008 08:48:08
I read the headline and thought there might be a story here!
Read the article and thought there’s no story here!
Read the name on the by-line and thought more and more, what did we do to deserve this type of rubbish from the writer of this article?
17

tommy M,

scotland 26/10/2008 08:48:12
12 couldn't agree with you more. They would have been criticised for wasting money going to the other end of the world...talking of sporting matters, just how much is the London olympics costing the Scots? And how much money is Scotland NOT getting for the commonwealth games?
18

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 08:53:13
13

Hey Smith what was the legal basis for the invasion of Afganistan?
19

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 08:56:24
13

Yoo hoo Smithy care to back up one of your vile racist rants for a change with some evidence?
20

donald,

glasgow 26/10/2008 09:00:16
Who sold the energy contracts to Sunny Spain and water to France,etc
21

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 09:03:04
22

As oppossed to giving them to the English for nothing?
22

All Politicians are the same,

Athens 26/10/2008 09:08:26
#20

UNSCR 1386
23

Steve,

Glenrothes 26/10/2008 09:13:03
So erm let me get this straight, the sneaky underhand SNP have started talking to people in the latest axis of evil state, Catalonia!!
This is surely a blatant attempt to further their evil plan of independence and world domination!!

They should have gone to that peace loving democracy China instead, a country which crushes such indulgent aspirations of freedom.

This must be the worst piece of trumped up bitter anti-SNP propaganda ever written. It's almost funny!!
24

Publius,

Girvan 26/10/2008 09:16:39
No mention of Manchester's very successful Commonwealth Games in 2002, which led to a lot of regeneration in the east part of the city. The SNP could go to Manchester to see - the Manchester games were Commonwealth games, they were a lot more recent than Barcelona, Manchester a lot closer than Barcelona. But the SNP would never admit that an English city could run a successful games. Nationalist prejudice against the English is starting to cost Scotland a lot.
25

Steve,

Glenrothes 26/10/2008 09:17:33
13 wrong again, the SNP said the Iraq war was illegal.
Thousands of innocent people massacred by Geodrie Bush and your LABOUR government. Weapons of mass distruction my behind.
26

Rufus T. Firefly,

26/10/2008 09:34:12
#27 You can be sure that if the SNP say the war is illegal, then the opposite will be true.

I would put my faith in the Attorney General well ahead of El Gordo Salmond.
27

Rufus T. Firefly,

26/10/2008 09:36:37
#28 The case for Independence is dead.

It would be like turkeys voting for Christmas.

Scotland is now economically bankrupt.
28

Steve,

Glenrothes 26/10/2008 09:37:00
So the war in Iraq was for what reason exactly, please enlighten us all.
29

Steve,

Glenrothes 26/10/2008 09:40:19
30, the UK is not only morally bankrupt, but is plummetting into recession with the £ worth about 3 chocolate buttons. Well done Gordon Broon. Claims credit for the good years, (on tick) and blames everyone else when it all goes pear shaped. What a mighty leader he is. Cant even face the voters in Glenrothes without vetting them first. Coward!
30

Steve,

Glenrothes 26/10/2008 09:47:21
Funny how nobody in the Labour Party batted an eyelid when Enrico Mirales FROM CATALONIA was chosen to design the Scottish Parliament. Our own parliament, designed by Johnny Foreigner, eh?
Surely they could have chosen someone from dear old England. (Or even Scotland!, shock horror!)
This is an obvious sign of the blatant anti-English sentiment rife in the Labour Party, is it not?

Labour, more faces than the toon clock.
31

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 09:50:13
24

Ah and that was based on the attack of the twin towers by a group of Saudi arabian citizens and an Algerian? supposedly working for an organisation started up by financed by and trained by the CIA?
Isnt it true that the UN resolution was solely based on information supplied by the US government the same sources of information they failed to get a UN resolution to invade Iraq?
32

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 09:52:32
26

I do believe the Spanish olympics was far more successful and much better organised than the Manchester commonwealth games wouldnt you agree?
Why settle for bronze when you can have gold?
33

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 09:54:02
30

Your going to look an even bigger tool than you do now when we become independent.
34

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 09:56:49
24

I dont see anything in the resolution which authorises military invasion do you?
35

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 10:05:58
38

You just made all that up didnt you?
36

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 10:17:27
40

Remind me again of how many English players play for Man U these days?
37

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 10:18:03
41

How about the last time they had a successful English manager?
38

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 10:32:11
40

I remember Celtic used tae cuff Man U regularly when it had more English players I wonder if thats coincidence?
39

arc of insolvency,

26/10/2008 10:39:21
And why aren't the SNP asking Manchester? Held only six years ago opposed to 16, more cost effective so no need for jollies across to Barcelona and Manchester was widely regarded as the stimulus for the wider regeneration of Manchester. Oh I forgot Manchester doesn't fit in with their nationalist agenda....What a pathetic excuse of a party. Imagine not even asking Melbourne either does the SNP not appreciate running the games will have changed since 1992? The SNP willing to put their Nationalist agenda ahead of Scotland's interest.
40

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 10:41:49
44

Like I said its a case of going for Gold as opposed to settling for bronze.
41

arc of insolvency,

26/10/2008 10:42:39
#17 some quality reasoning from you!!!!Please change your name from "Scottish person" its embaressing.
42

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 11:00:58
47

Your best premier league sides only survive in the premier league because of their expensive foreign players if any of them where all English they would soon be at the bottom fighting off relegation.
43

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 11:02:17
47

A fair amount of English players for a successful English team you mean?
44

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 11:03:31
47

Before the best English teams could afford the best from abroad they bought the best in Scotland and acheived their best successes as a result.
45

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 11:04:20
47

The most successful players in the English leagues read like a who,s who of Scottish and Irish football.
46

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 11:09:19
47

England doing well at international level?????????????
How many managers have you been through in the last 10 years?
47

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 11:21:58
53

Yes it must be the hardest thing in the world to get folk to blog on a blogging forum.
I congratulate you on your only lifetime acheivement.
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suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 11:35:15
55

What does it matter what the plan is it will only be reported as a propaganda spin.
You will only get the Liebour filtered version from the media anyway.
49

eric,

26/10/2008 11:46:33
Manchester may have been a great looking games on tv,but you look around city of mchster stadium.the jobs and homes promised never arrived.
50

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26/10/2008 12:53:03
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beeree,

26/10/2008 14:02:48
Is Glasgow the right place for a multi-cultural event. Last January I saw black-shirted fascists parading the streets with impunity.

Better take the Games anywhere except Glasgow.
52

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 14:10:38
59

Are you sure you werent at a Liebour party conference?
53

Rufus T. Firefly,

26/10/2008 14:48:46
#59 Glasgow is the right place for the games.

The competitors will feel right at home, as everybody there already walks about in shell suits and most of them cant speak English.
54

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 15:03:37
61

Are you no getting the commonwealth and Olympic game venues mixed up?
55

beeree,

26/10/2008 15:14:20
#60 Might have been - they were supporting the IRA.
56

Rufus T. Firefly,

26/10/2008 15:21:18
#62 Yes I mean the Olympics as well.

But only the part of it that will happen in Glasgow.
57

Nikostratos,

26/10/2008 16:50:32
Labour move back ahead in Scotland
October 26th, 2008

YouGov has a new poll of Scottish voting intentions in the Sunday Times. The full voting intentions, with changes from YouGov’s last Scottish poll in September are:

In a Westminster General election CON 20%(+3), LAB 38%(+6), LDEM 11%(-2), SNP 29%(-5)
58

suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 17:40:49
65

YouGov have repeated their poll of 60 Lab/Con marginal seats for Channel 4 (I wrote about the previous survey here). Labour’s share of the vote in these seats has increased by 6 points since the previous poll in early September, while the Conservatives are down 2 points. Whereas the previous YouGov marginal poll translated into a Conservative majority of about 150, this one would equate to a Tory majority of 54.

This is a broadly similar pattern to that which we’ve seen in national polls since the conference season: Labour up around 6 points from the mid-twenties to 30 or so; the Conservatives down a couple of points into the low-40s. The marginal seats seem to have reacted to the banking crisis in pretty much the same way as the country as a whole.

There are some other interesting findings in the poll:

YouGov asked who people thought would make the better Prime Minister “right now IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ECONOMIC CRISIS” (YouGov’s emphasis!) and found a solid lead for Gordon Brown: 41% to David Cameron’s 27%. However, they then asked who they felt would make the better Prime Minister after the next election and the position reversed, Cameron led Brown by 36% to 26%. While this is a pattern I expected in reality, I’m rather surprised to find it as coming out so explicitly in questioning: people want Brown now, but Cameron once the immediate crisis has passed.

Despite getting credit for his handling of the crisis, it really doesn’t appear to be helping Brown that much in electoral terms. For example, 58% of people said Brown had “shown read leadership in tackling the banking crisis…” but the majority of those people still went on to say ” …but does not deserve to be re-elected Prime Minister at the next election”. Overall 27% thought he had shown real leadership and deserved to be re-elected, 31% thought he had shown real leadership, but didn’t deserve re-election. 27% thought he failed to show any real leadership anyway.
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suchaparcelofrogues,

Scotland 26/10/2008 17:41:51
65

The yougov poll was limited to 60 Labour/Tory held marginal seats. Talk about ensuring the result before its published. So obviously some of these seats where ENGLISH SEATS and they publish the SNP as -5.
Phuq me sideways can this party get any lower?
This has Mandalson written all over it.
60

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 26/10/2008 17:53:40
So who has a problem with a European country going to another European country for advice?

Where does all this cloak and dagger paranoia stem from?
61

Nikostratos,

26/10/2008 18:16:48
Spain - Constitution


Article 8 [Armed Forces]

(1) The Armed Forces, constituting the Land Army, the Navy and the Air Force, have as their mission the guarantee of the sovereignty and independence of Spain, the defense of its territorial integrity and the constitutional order.
(2) An organic law will regulate the bases of the military organization in conformity with the principles of the present Constitution.
62

danbob,

26/10/2008 22:35:03
Why ask the Catalans. A word with the locals at the Dog and gun would have been enough since all they are is tiddly wink games. London will show you how it's done in 2012.
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john z,

edinburgh 26/10/2008 23:44:17
I think it is great that our Scottish Government have decided to make best use of local European skills in running the commonwealth games.
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john z,

edinburgh 26/10/2008 23:46:34
The London 2012 bid team also consulted the good folks of Barcelona for advice. It's not just an SNP thing. It's actually because the Barcelona Olympics were extremely successful.

 

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