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Published Date: 24 March 2009
TRUSTEES of the Castle of Mey, the Queen Mother's former Scottish home, are at the centre of a row after insisting only religious marriages will be permitted on the property, pulling up the drawbridge to civil ceremonies or gay partnerships.
Management thought they could earn extra funds during the quiet winter months by promoting the late Queen Mother's beloved castle as "Scotland's latest romantic wedding venue".

But the move has led to gay groups alleging discrimination and insisting the venue should be open to all.

Under the plans, couples seeking a religious wedding can apply to have it in the surroundings of the castle, in Caithness.

An advert on the castle's website, posted last Friday, said: "Brides and grooms who are looking for a romantic wedding venue with a difference can now hold their special ceremony in the visitor centre at the Castle and Gardens of Mey between October and April. Marriage services will be conducted by a minister or priest with seating for up to 60 guests."

The decision to restrict the use of the castle, initially, to couples seeking a religious wedding was made by the board of trustees. Yet the president of the trust is Prince Charles, whose second marriage, to Camilla Parker Bowles, was a civil marriage.

Yesterday, the gay rights group Outrage called the decision not to hold civil ceremonies "ridiculous" given the Queen Mother's association with gay people. A number of her staff were gay.

Christina Stokes, communications officer at Stonewall Scotland, said: "It is illegal for a venue to allow weddings and yet turn away couples who want a civil partnership. If you open your premises to the public, it must mean all of the public."

Under Scottish law, a marriage can take place at the castle if performed by a religious figure who already holds a licence.

However, if a couple wished to have a civil marriage at the castle, the trustees would have to apply for a licence from their local council. The trustees have decided not to do so, initially. But the castle need not apply for any licence for a gay civil partnership as the couple themselves have to do so.

Last night, James Murray, the castle's managing director, explained the trustees' decision. He said: "They took the decision that if people want to get married here that would be absolutely fine, but they would like them to have a religious ceremony.

"They did not want civil ceremonies here and therefore there was no need to apply for a civil licence. That was as far as the discussion went. They did not get into the discussion of gay partnerships."

Asked about claims of discrimination, he said: "I think the trust is perfectly entitled to say that if you want to get married here that is wonderful, but we would like it to be a religious ceremony. I don't think it is discrimination, no."

When asked if a gay couple wanting a civil partnership at the castle would be refused, Mr Murray said: "No – the answer would be that I would have to put it to the trustees. The question has not been asked or discussed."

Viscount Thurso, the Liberal Democrat MP, who is on the board of trustees, insisted the question of gay or civil partnerships had not come up and that the board was keen to start the wedding business off small and then eventually to expand.

He said: "I can categorically state that we have never, ever discussed the issue of gay or civil partnerships and, if we had, I would have said precisely what I said to you, which is I'm utterly relaxed about it in principle."

The castle's press spokeswoman later e-mailed The Scotsman, explaining: "We will look at every application we receive and if it fits in with our availability, we will approve it. As a matter of policy, the trust does not discriminate as to creed, colour, gender or sexual orientation."




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  • Last Updated: 23 March 2009 11:49 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Gay and Lesbian issues
 
1

RufusT-Firefly,

23/03/2009 22:49:45
This is disastrous news for 20th Century Boy.

He was hoping to get married to Wardog there this Summer.

What a bummer.
2

S'me,

Edinburgh 24/03/2009 00:39:02
More unsubtle discrimination.
3

tomi,

24/03/2009 01:07:34
The trustees are quite right to set the rules for this private property.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 24/03/2009 01:19:21

tomi ~6,

Agreed!, It is called,..."Moral Standards",

God Help us all, when we loose them all!


5

donald,

glasgow 24/03/2009 05:27:04
Labour support and English Queen, merrit or not.
6

Phillip,

24/03/2009 05:36:36
What an over-reaction. They decided to test the waters and start small by only doing religious ceremonies. If that goes well, then they can deal with all the extra paperwork to do Civil Marriages and Gay Marriages.

This is about as descriminatory as a small coffee shop announcing that it has decided to start selling food as well, but that initially they will only be selling pastries and cold sandwiches.

I'm gay and I can see that this isn't about descrimination. It's about starting a new venture and taking the time to do it right.
7

calum,

24/03/2009 06:23:46
"....after insisting only religious marriages will be permitted on the property, pulling up the drawbridge to civil ceremonies or gay partnerships."
So before the gay lobby start crying foul, this is about not permitting non-religious ceremonies, gay doesn't come into it. Unless, of course, churches or faiths start to recognise gay partnerships.
8

RufusT-Firefly,

24/03/2009 07:06:06
20th Century Boy, if your wedding does not go ahead what will you do about the honeymoon?

It would be a shame for you to waste your 2 weeks in Mykonos.
9

Louis Catorze,

24/03/2009 07:45:27
Seems to me that it's a case of pro-religion rather than anti gay.

But then that wouldn't make as good a headline now, would it
10

Orpheum,

Port Coquitlam, BC 24/03/2009 08:11:10
#7 Charles, Moral Standards! You have obviously lost any you may once have held by insinuating that Gay Couples are immoral. Do you still believe in burning people at the stake?
11

whatsyourname,

24/03/2009 08:28:27
Whats new ! the royal family blood line have always been gay, and incest...
12

fife runner,

24/03/2009 08:33:19
#13 people are still entitled to believe the homosexual act is unnatural. it is called free speech. no amount of bullying by the gay lobby, which holds too much power for its minority view will stop that.
13

Canada,

Canada 24/03/2009 09:05:39
All major world religions condemn same sex relations. We view it as morality and common sense that same sex relationships are not God's will and we have a right to express these views and act on our beliefs and outlaw same sex realtionships in our religious ceremonies. Of course the gay lobby react with accusations of homophobia and discrimination and we're all supposed to cave in to their demands. The use of these two well worn cliches are wearing a bit thin, but I guess it's about all they've got to justify their evil practises and perverse logic.
14

Helen,

24/03/2009 09:12:37
There are some churches which carry out blessing ceremonies for same sex couples who currently have to have a civil partnership rather than a religious ceremony. Unfortunately homophobic bigots like Canada #16 would rather all LGBT people were discriminated against and treated like outsiders. "We're all supposed to cave into their demands"....equality shouldn't have to be a demand, it should be a basic human right. As a practising Christian, I believe that a loving, monogamous relationship is pleasing in the eyes of God, and such relationships should be blessed and affirmed wherever the couple wants this to happen.
15

Joe90,

24/03/2009 09:28:56
Wufus. This is more important than the Caltongate fiasco? Eh? The onionists need your views there...
16

Canada,

Canada 24/03/2009 09:29:31
#17 You lose all credibility with your name calling homophobic bigot comment. You don't sound like much of a practising Christian when you have to invoke personal insults rather than stick to the subject matter. And it's not really a matter of what you believe, but what is ordained by Almighty God and He calls same sex relations an abomination. Some wishy washy liberal churches think they know better than God does and with no theological understanding alter God's Word to their own agenda and bias. This is the beginning of heresy.
17

NittonLover,

Newtongrange 24/03/2009 09:34:07
#2- What, has God told you has he/she?

Just love the Christan lobby, claiming words written by MEN are the words of God.




18

NittonLover,

Newtongrange 24/03/2009 09:34:32
That should be #20 not 2.
19

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 24/03/2009 09:43:36
I have no problem with gay folk and have known many in my life, but I can't stand folk that try and use their sexuality/race/religion to claim cases of discrimination.

#17 Helen

Gay activists don't look for "equality" they look for "special privileges".
What they (and all other groups who use the "discrimination" banner whenever they can't get their own way) have to realise is that in life you can't actually GET everything you wish for.
As for your God Bothering statement "I believe that a loving, monogamous relationship is pleasing in the eyes of God". Please let me know why you believe this ? Did God tell you ? Did "He" come to you in a vision ?

Oh dear !! Please excuse me... I'm being presumptuous and assuming that God is a man when He could actually be a woman. Don't want to be upsetting the feminists now do we ?

You religious zealots are just as bad as the Gay activists trying to force your opinions on everyone else !!!

20

ExpatNL,

glasgow 24/03/2009 09:45:27

"The castle's press spokeswoman later e-mailed The Scotsman, explaining: "We will look at every application we receive and if it fits in with our availability, we will approve it. As a matter of policy, the trust does not discriminate as to creed, colour, gender or sexual orientation.""

Though discriminating against athiests or mixed couples is policy.
21

Brodric,

24/03/2009 09:47:08
No 20 Canada - you are the reprehensible one sic "Of course the gay lobby react with accusations of homophobia and discrimination and we're all supposed to cave in to their demands. The use of these two well worn cliches are wearing a bit thin, but I guess it's about all they've got to justify their evil practises and perverse logic".

You say that all credibility is lost for Helen (17) when she calls you a 'homophobic bigot' - but you are so self-satisfied that you fail to notice that you use in-credible language to condemn gay people; see above in the part of the quote I copied; the words "react" "cave in" "well worn cliches" "justify" but worst of all "evil practises" and "perverse logic".

What are you afraid of? Might you self-flagellate because of "strange unnatural feelings" you may be having?
22

It's me!,

24/03/2009 09:56:07
When is the majority going to stand up to these minority groups who believe they can rule through political correctness?
23

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 24/03/2009 09:59:49
"It is illegal for a venue to allow weddings and yet turn away couples who want a civil partnership."

I don't think any churches hold purely civil wedding ceremonies. Surely, if the trustees wish to restrict their business to Christian weddings, they should be able to do so. I note that there is no mention of weddings for Jews, Moslems or other faiths.

However, I am enjoying the mental image of "a minister or priest with seating for up to 60 guests"!


24

ExpatNL,

glasgow 24/03/2009 10:00:18
#27 It's me

What majority?
25

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24/03/2009 10:02:55
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Brodric,

24/03/2009 10:07:37
I wholly support equality and a non-discriminatory stance. However, this flies in the face of free speech and belief. And then there is the whole politically correct stuff which stifles a great deal of the creativity and uniqueness of individuals.

I wonder if it is not possible for different places for different people, without rancour, but I fear not.

But what I fear more is the kind of MORAL comments that come out of the ignorance of people like Canada - and Charles Linksaill (of all people), who I have to say has shocked me by introducing the idea of morality into this argument.

Morality is a man-made idea - it is not something objective. It is related to the actions of man within the prescribed authority of the society in which man lives. And because of this, the idea of morality has changed over the centuries. But even where we have ideas of what is morally right, for example, telling lies is wrong, there are always other examples which conflict with this idea. As an example, if during WW2 you were hiding a Jewish family in your cellar and the SS came and asked if you knew the whereabouts of that family. Morally you shouldn't lie, but ethically, to tell the truth would result in the harm of that family. What do you do?

So morality should be kept out of this argument. I could add a few words to Charles about how ideas, once considered unethical, have changed but I would never want to hurt him on that.

Canada if you want to add more blitherings, please remember before penning a word that Jesus said to the crowd who wanted to stone an IMMORAL woman for adultery; that he without sin should cast the first stone. Sensible crowd, no-one did.


27

Canada,

Canada 24/03/2009 10:09:23
#25 Your logic is rambling. Get to the point man. I do not condemn gay people. They indulge in a practise which is sinful, just like adultery, drunkeness, stealing, violence. This is called sin and it is something I'm fairly good at myself. The call of Christ is to repent, turn away form behviours that inherrantly hurt us. Have we forgotten how the AIDS epidemic started. Does common logic not suggest this act is against nature. Try and keep a pure mind and it's amazing how good you will feel.
28

RufusT-Firefly,

24/03/2009 10:12:48
18 The Spook in Leith,How much is it for Sky TV 24/03/2009 09:20:12
Rufus is gay and i would like to read his views on this thanks !!!
=====================================================

Spook, even if I was you would still have no chance.

I have seen your pictures on your blog and you look like a neanderthal.

You make the Elephant Man look like George Clooney.
29

Canada,

Canada 24/03/2009 10:19:09
#31 Yes Jesus forgave the woman of sin. His parting words were, "Go and sin no more." He did not say, just carry on as before. It was a call to repent. Your argument would carry more weight if you exercised some brevity and had somebody teach you some manners.
30

Brodric,

24/03/2009 10:22:46
Canada - I can almost see your rabid frothing at the mouth. What rambling? Just because I don't believe the same things as you do doesn't make me illogical or rambling.

Firstly, what tells you I am a man? An assumption like all your others.

As for not condemning gay people - TOSH! By calling them sinful, you most certainly do; by blaming them for the AIDS epidemic, you most certainly do. And it shows your ignorance - and I am not about to waste my precious time in going down that route.

And the suggestion that I don't have a pure mind is insulting. Evidently yours is putrid - full of darkness and fear. The awful end of religious belief.

I pity you.
31

Faux Cul,

24/03/2009 10:23:58
Gordon and Mandy?
32

Faux Cul,

24/03/2009 10:26:04
16
Canada,
Canada 24/03/2009 09:05:39

Stuff your God
33

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24/03/2009 10:26:14
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Filosofo,

Kirkcaldy 24/03/2009 10:30:20
#31 - Charles Linksaill is an idiot
35

Canada,

Canada 24/03/2009 10:41:58
Dear Brodic. Please settle down and take your medication. You are flinging out accusations left, right and centre and you are way off the mark. Stay on topic, don't get off on things that aren't there, and try to debate in a civilised fashion. Did no one ever teach you manners? You have added nothing to the debate. Just poured out scorn and filth in your silly childish rants which come no where near describing me. When one has nothing to say in debate that is when one dishes out on his opponent. You have lost the plot dear Brodic. Goodnight.
36

Brodric,

24/03/2009 10:46:45
Canada - Oh good, does that mean you are leaving.
37

Steve Foley,

Home Counties 24/03/2009 10:52:21
Quite Right! The late Queen Mother was I believe a religious lady who held Christian Values to be dear to her and who treasured her own marriage to the the late King George VI and of course her family life. I would feel that she would have wanted any Marriage conducted in her Scottish home to be of a Religious nature.

There are plenty of other picturesque venues in Bonnie Scotland where marriages both Religious and Civil can be performed, perhaps Viscount Thurso would be happy to permit them in his ancestral home?
38

Observer,,

Glasgow 24/03/2009 11:13:58
42 You are of course joking. The Queen Mother was ''matriarch'' to one of the most dysfunctional families in the land. If they personify ''Christian Values'' then no wonder the Churches are empty. If you want a religious ceremoney - go to a Church. This isn't a Church. Therfore if one set of happy couples can marry here, then all kinds of happy couples should be able to do that. To pick and choose who can access that facility is discrimination, what other word is there ?
39

Brodric,

24/03/2009 11:27:02
43 Observer. Well put.
40

Lianachan,

Highlands 24/03/2009 11:50:47
Amusingly, there is of course absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Jesus actually existed, let alone was possessed of super-powers.
41

Tris,

24/03/2009 11:53:18
As it's all about making money... what isn't..... I'm sure they will soon wake up to the fact that there's loads of the stuff to be made out of gay couples, and they will undoubtedly change their greedy little minds.
42

blackley,

Edinburgh 24/03/2009 11:58:59
The Castle of May has seen a lot of old queens over the years. I dare say a few more won't make any difference.
43

Tartan Viking,

24/03/2009 12:09:46
Maybe they could use the back door entrance?
44

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 24/03/2009 12:12:25
For goodness' sakes the trustees only want a bit of good taste and decorum and for the place not be sullied by dodgy "marriages"! Standards MUST be maintained!
45

Calum Crubag,

24/03/2009 12:37:58
#42 - Steve Foley. So if the Queen Mum was so religious and followed the bible then she would have wished her grandson Chas and his wife Di to be 'stoned to death at the city gates' for the crime of adultery?

Caithness is getting a bit of a backward reputation - No gays, no Gaels... who next? Is Caithness Scotland's 'deep North'?
46

Pocket Dictionary,

24/03/2009 12:55:48
#15 I presume by your comment on "the homosexual act" you are referring to bottom sex. Not every Gay man wants to or particpates in bottom sex. Your comment exposes your ignorance of the subject. (Bottom used because the Scotsman's censorship rejects the use of the anotomical name)

I do believe this is a non-story hyped up by the media for salacious reasons.
47

Mark Insch,

24/03/2009 12:59:16
Been involved in a same sex relationship for over 20 years now - keep suggesting to the wife we try spicing things up but no.... always just the same sex!! ;-)
48

ExpatNL,

glasgow 24/03/2009 13:03:37
#42 Steve Foley

There's a perfectly good water fountain around the corner for the non-whites.
49

Scottie,

South Africa 24/03/2009 13:27:21
I think Canada must be not from Canada actually, it's a fairly liberal country.

And anyway, nature itself has 'homosexual' animals and, in fact, some creatures can change their sex. Also the laws of The Almighty that he refers to are more man-made than anything else.
50

El Franko,

24/03/2009 13:32:13
Once anyone gets the taste of being part of a 'victim group', with all the benefits that brings from our media and politicians, they become addicted and then of course exceedingly precious, always on the qui vive for more offence to fuel the fire. I think we need something like a 'Victims Anonymous' where such people can help one another get back into society as a person rather than as a spokesman for 'community X'.
51

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24/03/2009 13:33:03
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Scottie,

South Africa 24/03/2009 13:33:22
And it's daft to imagine that the late Queen Mother would have any objections to her Castle holding 'gay marriages', she had numerous gay staff, and royalty has had enough scandals over the years to ensure they don't point fingers at anyone else! And, Canada, that goes right back to Henry VIII ...
53

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 24/03/2009 13:40:24
they came in droves upon hearing about the gay gordons
left feeling let down when it was pointed out it was a dance
54

sam the god,

24/03/2009 13:42:39
at least the fight back has started aginst the PC brigade if they do not want them in the castle that is up to them. if the BNP wanted to hold a meeting in the castle would the PC brigade be up in arms to make sure they got access no i do not thinks so but surely that would be discrimination.
55

Salvatori,

24/03/2009 13:46:53
13 - "Do you still believe in burning people at the stake?"

More like burning people at the cake in this particular instance.
56

Lianachan,

Highlands 24/03/2009 14:08:36
#56 One of the funniest things I've read for ages - thanks for that. I especially enjoyed the "Wake up England" bit at the end.
57

TARTAN TEDDY BEAR,

PAISLEY 24/03/2009 14:18:53


Stand up the moral majority.

THE MORAL MAJORITY STAND UP
58

Salvatori,

24/03/2009 14:19:48
I went skiing in the Sodomites recently. Great off-piste to boot.
59

TARTAN TEDDY BEAR,

PAISLEY 24/03/2009 14:19:58

Burning at the stake now there,s a novel idea
60

Salvatori,

24/03/2009 14:24:00
After all that skiing, I tell you, I was vehemently weary just like #56.
61

Geoff,

sa 24/03/2009 14:31:07
61 Lianachan-yes must agree-John Slushers piece at 56 is priceless :) :)

I am heterosexual but have no prejudice against homosexuals. Surely Homosexuals, as with all earths creatures, are created by the same loving and forgiving God as created the likes of you and I John Slusher? Why can you not just view them as different?
62

Joanna,

Cambs, England 24/03/2009 14:32:55
56 John M. Slusser II, "Wake up England, who once evangelised the world!"

This chap obviously got an A+ for Religious Studies and Medieval History and an E- for Geography.

The Castle of Mey is a long, long way from England and is none of our business really.

Although as its not a church I can't see what the problem is with carrying out all sorts of civil partnerships there. The Royal Family have, after all, not exactly stuck to the 'thou shalt no commit adultery' clause in a man/woman partnership.

Its a bit late in the day for them to start becoming all holier than thou.
63

Lianachan,

Highlands 24/03/2009 14:45:20
#66 Indeed. It's extremely ironic that few can hate as vehemently (heh) as a suitably motivated Christian.
64

Geoff,

sa 24/03/2009 14:46:11
I try to respect the views of others but am constantly amazed at how some religiose people-be they Christian or Muslim or whatever,are so intolerant of the views of others,so certain that they and their philosophy alone has a monopoly on the truth,and how therefore by implication, we who do not subscribe to their beliefs,are deluded or sinful or destined for eternal hellfire! Perhaps Canada and John Slusser should be humble enough to admit that they might not be the only ones privy to "God's" grace. Perhaps Aetheists who try to live good lives are just as likely-perhaps more so, to access the kingdom of 'heaven'?
65

Geoff,

sa 24/03/2009 14:49:23
67 Joanna Cambs-Hi stranger-how are you? Good post!!
66

Joanna,

Cambs, England 24/03/2009 15:00:22
Hello there Geoff :))

Your post at #69 is right on the money. Most of the organised religions are all about control, through fears and threats of what awaits us in the afterlife if we don't conform and behave ourselves according to their dogmatic blueprint.

The irony of it is that the more extreme religious posters on here quote extracts from the Bible that suit them and fit their agenda. Their wrathful and vengeful God that rules by fear. No thanks.
67

Duncan in Edinburgh,

24/03/2009 15:16:50
A general comment: you realise, I hope, that the reason this headline starts with "Gay" rather than "Civil" is purely to attract comments and therefore page views. The story is here to whip up homophobia and the defence of homophobia. So here we are again; lovely day for it.

#10 Calum, plenty of churches already recognise gay partnerships. But churches are prevented by Scots law from participation in a civil partnership ceremony. Mixed sex couples can choose a religious or non-religious ceremony; same-sex couples can only choose a non-religious ceremony. That's because of the law, not the churches.

There is a campaign at http://www.equalmarriage.org.uk/ to equalise marriage laws in Scotland and permit both mixed sex and same sex couple to choose either religious or non-religious ceremonies.
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steve52,

Kinfauns 24/03/2009 16:41:43
No doubt a certain Green MSP will be raising this in the Scottish Parliament.

Normally that Rupert the fly does not know what he is talking about.......he sure has this topic well researched!!!!
70

Calum Crubag,

24/03/2009 16:42:08
#56 - excellent post. Now stone to death any other devaints including hetereos who enjoy a 'hand shandy' a bit of 'gamming' or 'mufff diving'. And can we assume that you've never fallen foul of Old Testament morality? Never talked to or touched a woman during her period of "monthly uncleanliness"??!

More proof that religion and the bible are irrelevant to modern life.
71

Calum Crubag,

24/03/2009 16:42:28
Was the film 'Deliverance' filmed in Caithness?
72

Munguin,

24/03/2009 17:00:19
#56 I really enjoyed your post, I do hope it's for real and not a joke. Do you really exist? if you do I am glad I live a long way from Nantwich. That wake up England bit that's priceless, I really hope England heard you but doubt they would be able to read it in the Scotsman.
73

nuada mor,

Hamilton 24/03/2009 17:10:30
me me me me me..... I I I want this that and anything else that i fancy. When will these spoiled brats in the 'gay' movement grow up and realize the the world dont give a damn how, or with whom they achieve an orgasm. Just SHUT UP and get out of my face, I sick and tired of your infantile rantings !!!
74

Munguin,

24/03/2009 17:28:59
#32 If dunkeness is sinful then you have come to the right place in the Castle of Mey, the queen mother then will be down in hell with all the gay people, as we all know she was not a great fan of sobriety.
75

RLuggie,

24/03/2009 18:01:34
Duncan, 72

There is nothing so unfair as the equal treatment of unequals.

By definition - a man CANNOT marry a man.

He can chuck his tadger up the other fella's hairy shoitepoipe....but they CANNOT get married.
76

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

24/03/2009 18:27:01
If there was a god do you seriously think this entity would spend time fretting over humans being capable of falling in love with the same sex? I can just see it now

"Oh no my toys are broken! Thats it! I'm not playing any more!!!"
77

Phil the Flooter,

24/03/2009 18:30:45
81 RLuggie

Superbly put
LOL
78

RLuggie,

24/03/2009 18:35:49
Thank you, Phil, 83.

My views re girl\girl homosexuality are less clear - I think I might need to watch more video footage to decide.
79

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

24/03/2009 19:08:54
Stop chatting yourself up... your right hand (I am of course, assuming that you are right handed) will storm off in a huff at the rejection...and re your comment at 81 it aint exactly fair..any man..can do the same to his lady wife's (hairy or not) and still get married..
80

Andrew,

24/03/2009 19:16:38
So it's no gay-day away-days at Mey, any day!!!!
Plenty other venues for those who want such a "hitch"!
81

RLuggie,

24/03/2009 19:25:51
Canker, 85

Oh, it aint about fairness!

whether a fella uses a girl's shoitepipe or not, a man CANNOT marry a man.

That's just fact....whether the queers like it or not!!!
82

RLuggie,

24/03/2009 19:28:14
85: did you think it was a b@nker that I'm a w@nker, C@nker?
83

Eve,

Scotland 24/03/2009 19:49:54
Heres the most important part of the artcle, it prove that the headline to this artcle is written to make us jump to conclusions. It's nothing to do with sexal ornitaion, it's about licences which are no dought costly. It's also clear that hetrosexal couple who want a no-relgious wedding would be allowed to wed their either.

"Under Scottish law, a marriage can take place at the castle if performed by a religious figure who already holds a licence.

However, if a couple wished to have a civil marriage at the castle, the trustees would have to apply for a licence from their local council. The trustees have decided not to do so, initially. But the castle need not apply for any licence for a gay civil partnership as the couple themselves have to do so."

84

Scimitar1,

24/03/2009 20:09:34
Sanity prevails, poofters need to be kept away from our historic buildings and public institutions.
85

Tris,

24/03/2009 21:13:39
#56. John.

Oh thank you. I can't remember when I enjoyed a post so much. I'm still wiping away the tears of mirth from my eyes.

I am delighted to know that you have absolutely no problem sharing the Gospel with people either here or in person, and am excited by the love and tolerance that clearly is the hallmark of your Christ's teachings... Please feel free to share that love as ofgten as you can.

Oh, and by the way, The Scotsman goes out in Scotland, so there is probably pretty little point using its pages to exhort the Engish to do anything much.
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Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

24/03/2009 21:15:37
90...fall on your sword you buffoon.....

88..och who knows mibbe ye pat puppies and gie waens the odd sweetie now and then...
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Moothy Dung,

Beijing 24/03/2009 22:43:18
A big hello to all my lovely western friends out there in cyber land - tonight Moothy Dung brings you exotic and tantalising recipe from the country that specialises in many delicacies...particularly for man who experiences problems in the whang department - nothing to be ashamed of and Dung's recipes sure to put the pep back in your pecker - not stupid superstition - not possible with Chinese mass mindset - no, scientifically proven to be better than viagra..so, are yoo ready?

INGREDIENTS

Giant black dug dong
Soy sauce
1 mushroom

Method

Marinate black dug dong overnight in soy sauce - throw away mushroom and replace with Monosodium Glutomate liberally douse dong with that - et voila - swallow dug dong whole until eyes water and cheeks bulge - no cheating no chewing! No need for Viagra now!

Join me tomorrow night for another recipe from the little red book (amended)
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Moothy Dung,

24/03/2009 22:45:17
Friday night buffet night - Karaoke and Dung's dancing girls - eat all the whang you can swallow - BYOB! Only five whole British pounds

Uncle Moothy Dung says

"Try whang hotpot and stay up all night!"
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white raven,

Washington 25/03/2009 00:12:38
I don't know much about Scottish law, but surely there is an MCC in Scotland?
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Dunnie,

Canada 25/03/2009 00:15:38

What a non-story.

It is a private property therefore owners are perfectly within their rights.

BTW - just because some of the Queen Mum's staff were gay does not necessarily mean she approved of their lifestyle nor would she agree to their "union" within the wall of her ancestral home.

Anyway, anybody who would contemplate having their wedding ceremony held in such dank and dark surroundings is automatically suspect - mentally - not sexually.
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Orpheum,

Port Coquitlam, BC 25/03/2009 02:16:11
To Canada, Charles et al who frown on the Gay population, it is not your opinion that is being challenged, it is the method by which it's expressed. It appears to border on bigotry! I do not challenge the opinion of true Christians or of any other sect or religion but I do interact in debating their philosophy, healthy debate with intelligent people. I believe in everything that is good, like peace and love, and Gay partership is based on love and I'm sure that they have God's blessing in marriage or partership. We must assume that God has read a few good books over the years since he first introduced his naive edicts and hopefully he has learned a thing or two and he is welcome to attend with my friends and students to discuss his reasons for giving so many people misguiding information. Come on God, show the people that you are part of the twenty first century!
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Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 25/03/2009 04:35:54
#99 Orpheum

You are just as "Oot yur tree" as Helen at #17 and all the other religious zealots who are posting on here.

"I'm sure that they have God's blessing". Really ?
"We must assume that God has read a few good books". Really ?
"Come on God, show the people that you are part of the twenty first century". Really ?

You are a Grade A "Space Cadet" if you believe ANYTHING that you have typed !!
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Orpheum,

Port Coquitlam, BC 25/03/2009 16:28:36
#100 Angoos; I also stated that I discuss philosophical matters with intelligent people and students. Sorry, I should have said mature students. Any Library or educational facility can assist you in understanding the logic of satire.
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Josiecamp,

San Francisco 25/03/2009 22:12:53
#99 Orpheum..an excellent representation of logic! Surely readers who have liberal insight to all matters theological must concur that God is a name that existed in letters and in mythology long, long before the first century AD and I commend you for the satirical implication you have advanced. Unfortunately,
subscribers like #100 ANGOOS from BAKU are unable to align themselves to your level of scholarship and it may be that your dissertation is beyond the average comprehension of the majority of the Scotsman's readers. Too bad!
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TCWCANADA,

OTTAWA CANADA 09/11/2009 08:24:39
Horrible Cankers

Hellllooooo! I have been away travelling extensively.

I am VERY surprised at the apparent homophobia of Charles Linskaill.

I had thought better of him.

Perhaps he is having one of his periodic episodes of insantity.

I extend kind greeting to you, Horrible Cankers.

 

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