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Published Date: 11 March 2009
IT IS Scotland's most famous never-ending task, but painting the Forth Bridge is to be completed sooner than expected, The Scotsman has learned.
Painters are now due to finish coating the structure in just two years' time – a year ahead of schedule.

They are applying special paint which should last for up to 30 years – and enable the enduring myth that the bridge is ceaselessly painted from end to end to be finally laid to rest.

Network Rail, which owns the 119-year-old crossing, said better-than-expected progress had brought forward the completion date to 2011.

The news comes a year after the rail firm increased spending on the project from £13 million to £18.5 million a year to accelerate the end of the work by a year to 2012. It started in 2002.

A 200-strong team is applying a triple layer of new "glass flake epoxy" paint, which is similar to that used in the offshore oil industry.

It creates a chemical bond to provide a virtually impenetrable layer to protect the bridge's steelwork from the weather.

A spokesman for Network Rail said: "2011 is now the preferred date and things are moving towards completing the job then. We have been gradually moving ahead of schedule since the project started in 2002. We have got more work completed than originally forecast, because we are no longer going through a learning process."

The spokesman said while most of the bridge would not need repainting for decades, the most exposed areas were likely to need touch-ups more regularly.

The news was welcomed by the official passenger watchdog, which said it could help boost rail improvements elsewhere.

Robert Samson, the Scotland manager for Passenger Focus, said: "It will be good news if Network Rail is able to complete work ahead of schedule and can turn its attention to other matters that will benefit the passenger railway."

A spokesman for the firm said: "Network Rail and contractors Balfour Beatty have established a strong working partnership, which is delivering on-going efficiencies as the work on the Forth Bridge proceeds.

"We are doing all we can to complete the project ahead of schedule, but there are a number of external factors, particularly weather, which can still affect our estimated completion date."

An earlier repainting scheme should have been completed in 2001, but was abandoned early because of problems. Only about £500,000 a year was spent on painting, with new coats applied on top of existing paint in areas where it was needed, which lasted up to ten years.

The most exposed, weather-beaten sections of the bridge were painted most often. A team of painters were employed almost continually, but rail cutbacks in the late 1970s and 1980s meant the process was interrupted.

Network Rail said there would be no disruption to trains during the remaining work.



CROSSING TO STAR IN TV SHOW

FIONA Bruce, the host of the Antiques Roadshow, is to film part of the BBC show from the top of the Forth Bridge this month.

The sequence will form part of a programme being recorded at nearby Hopetoun House on 25 March.

Viewers attending the event at the mansion near South Queensferry are being encouraged to bring along memorabilia from the bridge, which will celebrate its 120th birthday next year.

The Hopetoun House edition is expected to be broadcast in September or October, while another will be recorded at Abbotsford House, Sir Walter Scott's former home near Melrose, on 2 July.

The programme often attracts 7.5 million viewers.

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  • Last Updated: 10 March 2009 9:23 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Forth Bridges
 
1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 00:15:12

Some maintenance job, and it all starts again when finished.
I can't remember the date the Forth Bridge opened, but I think it was 1963, not a very good time for new constructions as in technologies such as being used in the high rise flats appearing all over the place, and made for far less traffic than ever imagined using the bridge today.
All very scary if you think about it, when crossing it, as it might one day,...'Just Fall Down'! :(

Go as fast as you can across it, bearing this in mind. :)

2

Solo Lobo,

11/03/2009 00:56:27
#1. I believe you are confused between the Forth Bridge, construction of which began in 1883 and was formally completed on 4 March 1890, and The Forth Road Bridge opened on 4th September 1964. Sadly a mistake which is made by far too many people these days.

Can't find any records of high rise flats being built in the 1880's either.

3

SkeptikScot,

11/03/2009 01:11:46
Somehow I think the phrase "painting the Forth Bridge" will continue for many a year to come. Too good an expression to lose!
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 01:14:13

Solo Lobo ~2,

OK! Yes My error for not reading correctly, as in glimpsing over article, I will try not to do this again.

The Rail Bridge, will last forever, unlike the Road Bridge, that I was talking about.

Sorry and 'a-slap-in-the-hand' was well deserved! :(

5

Huistean baxter,

ontario. 11/03/2009 04:31:40
Amazing. Forth rail bridge i suppose was designed and
built by British people and is now 119 years old. The Forth road bridge was designed and built by what company?, is 45 years old and really falling apart.
Same thing on the trams in Edinburgh. If a British company had got the job of installing the tram lines the job would be well on it's way by now.
6

WeAreDeRosa,

11/03/2009 07:03:21
#5 The Forth Road Bridge was designed and built by

Freeman Fox & Partners
Mott, Hay and Anderson

A.C.B. Bridge & Company
Cleveland Bridge & Engineering Co. Ltd.
Dorman, Long and Co. Ltd.
John Howard and Co. Ltd.
Sir William Arrol & Co.

All British?

The bridge isn't falling apart - not even really.

I was unaware that the trams were also 45 years old and also falling apart.

Re the trams - a British company DID get the job of installing the tram lines - they are called TIE Ltd.

They have been proven to be inept.
7

Southsea,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 08:08:42
If this paint is supposed to last 30 years based on its use on oil rigs than somebody better tear their eyes from the power point presentation and have a look at the real condition of oil rigs. There is an awful lot of rust visible on them. In offshore safety training you are warned that if trying to escape down stairways to the sea not to trust the lower steel work (steps, handrails), either may collapse with your weight due to severe corrosion being present.

Still, if the power point presentation says it’s wonderful paint that lasts 30 years why should reality be allowed to confuse matters.
Big bonuses all around no doubt.
8

left4dead,

Earth 11/03/2009 08:14:14
Not that The Scotsman is behind the times or anything on this one but: http://thejaggythistle.blogspot.com/
9

voltaire's janny,

11/03/2009 08:21:33
I think the Forth Bridge could pay for its own painting if developed as a tourist walk like Sydney Harbour Bridge. You could have the one h_ump tour or two. (hootsmon doesn't like camels it seems)

A visitor centre where the painters' portakabin village is now, a free bevvy voucher for the Hawes Inn and no weather cancellations. Ever. Up to eight in a group, 15 mins departures, 50 quid a go, 12 hours a day, 365 a year, 7 million pounds, 2 million profits, 30 year annuity, next paint job paid for! Maybe next time we could paint it yellow.

With German anti-minesweeper cable pass technology, each visitor is attached to a wire loop and cannot fall. Come on "Visit Scotland" - a tourist coup awaits.
10

Scottie,

South Africa 11/03/2009 08:31:55
:) I remember, many many years ago, learning in Junior School about this bridge being continually and continually painted - what interesting fact will replace that now?
11

James, Edinburgh,

11/03/2009 08:44:58
#2 Solo Lobo, Re:high Rise! What about the City Chambers - ten storeys high - built late 1890's? Alternatively, go down the West Bow and have a look at the buildings at the north west side. Look up. They go right up to Johnston Terrace - and all this without tubular scaffolding and jib cranes.
12

Grumpy,

11/03/2009 08:49:28
Any chance of getting the Forth Bridge Project Manager a job in charge of the Edinburgh Tram Works. Maybe he's the person we need to get the trams back on track. (And I'd give all the Forth Bridge workers a job on the tram works too, since they will work in any weather just to get the job done.
13

Buspass,

Edinburgh 11/03/2009 08:53:55
#1 and #4.
Yes Charles, just like the rest of your posts on this paper.
14

Anonym,

11/03/2009 09:00:06
I was also told that story a long time ago, but I didn't believe it because I couldn't see anybody at work painting the bridge!

Point is, it's not an 'interesting fact'. It's a daft urban myth (see third paragraph above).

The version I was told was particularly daft. Supposedley, they start at one end (nobody knows which end) and by the time they get to the other side (nobody knows which end is the other side) it is time to start all over again!
15

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11/03/2009 09:01:43
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Mark Insch,

11/03/2009 09:02:47
#9 - voltaire's janny

Some great ideas there! To add to them, you could market the "Richard Hannay Experience" where a train stops half way over and all the passengers have to get out and find their own way off the bridge.
17

Anonym,

11/03/2009 09:10:09
I do like #9 voltaire's janny's suggestion, but I think the tourist numbers would take a dive once stories started to circulate about how utterly cold, windy, and bloody terrifying the whole experience was.
18

noswod,

Honestas 11/03/2009 09:18:22
Forth Rail Bridge 120 years old - still going strong. Forth Road bridge 42 years old fa'ing doon.
19

ecosseman,

FACTS NOT PROPAGANDA 11/03/2009 09:30:59
JUST SPRAY THE BRIDGE WITH WD40.

ROLL ON THE ELECTION!
20

Stewart_in_Oz,

Alexandra Hills 11/03/2009 09:57:15
#6
It would be worth checking the wires in the cables that have rusted and broken and see if they were up to spec.
Anyone who has seen the BBC series about Seven Wonders of the Industrial World would know that for the building of the Brooklyn Bridge the suppliers of the cables 'slipped in' substandard cable wires and had to be monitored to try and exclude this. If I remember correctly, finding that the Brooklyn Bridge had broken wires in the spun cables prompted the examination of the cables of the Forth Road Bridge when the defective strands were discovered.
#19.
It would be bound to cause a slick from overspray and spray drift. Could you imagine the 'Greenies' reaction to that?
21

Weel Kent Jambo,

11/03/2009 10:24:55
True story - The daughter of a friend of mine in Kent came up to Edinburgh Uni and when her parents visited proudly told them she had discovered folk up here had a pet name for the bridge and that it was called George. Transpired she'd hear people talking about George IV Bridge.....
22

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 11/03/2009 10:34:38
paint the road bridge in this paint as well,might improve its lifespan by 30 years
23

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 11/03/2009 10:36:00
#21 roflmfao what a divvy,sure she wasnt irish as they get blamed for such idiocy
24

ARP,

Scotland 11/03/2009 10:42:16
Much of the main structure is hollow. Do they paint inside as well? Or is the rust still at work on the inside?
25

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 11/03/2009 10:47:17
#8 thanks for the jt link this was on it and its really funny if not pc
http://www.funnyplace.org/stream.php?id=7647
26

Class On Grass,

inside a leg 11/03/2009 11:46:49
24, ARP,
I never thought of the insides of the legs before...
Seepage would allow sea spray in, for sure.
I hope this has been covered by the engineers -
Any info on this 6, DeRosa? (or any other engineers,)
27

Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 11/03/2009 15:39:53
"The Forth Bridge is being coated with special paint that should last 30 years". Well, that'll be them painting it all again within 24 months.
28

The new waspy,

11/03/2009 16:34:54
#21
We all fall for it some time or another.
When I was in Gibralter on my travel I said "wonder what that island over there is mother"
Its Africa dad.DUH
29

eamon,

11/03/2009 17:33:11
#24

The inside of the hollow sections was coated with a lead based paint then sealed off preventing air circulation, because to enable steel to rust it needs oxygen. The oxy still within the leg would quickly be used up in an initial light rusting, but after that no corosion at all.
30

Mikko,

Drumnadrochit 11/03/2009 18:08:52
#29 Oh yes, that's why the coated box sections in cars don't corrode through either. NOT!
31

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11/03/2009 18:52:10
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11/03/2009 18:57:11
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Caora Dubh,

Croit sheasgair 11/03/2009 19:20:35
#2, Solo Lobo: My Dorling Kindersley Eyewitness Guide to Italy, ISBN 0-7513-0105-1, has a picture on p451 of a 5-storey block of flats built in Ostia Antica at the mouth of the Tiber in the 2nd century AD. The caption starts: "Much of Ostia's population lived in blocks of flats, such as this building...". The external architecture looks a lot better than the blocks put up in the 1960s and 70s, but it looks as if there is little to distinguish it internally from those monstrosities.
34

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11/03/2009 20:46:29
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Stewart_in_Oz,

Alexandra Hills 12/03/2009 07:37:25
#29
If the oxygen in the legs was combined and caused slight rusting, I imagine that would have caused a vacuum. Rust occupies less volume than Oxygen gas. Therefore the Hollow Pipes are now in a state of partial vacuum? Or if they were only sealed at the top then the bottoms would have sucked in moisture through the concrete and there would be water inside? Either situation does not sound good.
36

Stewart_in_Oz,

Alexandra Hills 12/03/2009 07:39:45
#34
He is definitely not in Australia otherwise he would not be able to get his opinions in the paper so quickly and be near the top. I get my copy considerably later than him.
37

Scottie,

South Africa 12/03/2009 09:30:58
34 & 36, there is someone by that surname (which I'd never heard before) currently living in Edinburgh. (Not that's definitive of course lol)
38

WeAreDeRosa,

12/03/2009 14:45:21
#26 - Engineer! LOL - a mere musician with a passing interest in Forth and Edinburgh related matters.
39

WeAreDeRosa,

12/03/2009 14:47:01
#20 The only wires I would be interested in checking for rust would be the strings on my guitar!
40

Ewan Oosami,

12/03/2009 19:29:55
Glass flake technology? nothing new here...that's what Hammerite is, the difference here is the epoxy part so it should be better than Hammerite. I don't know why they didn't seal all hollow sections too and fill them with an inert gas.

 

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