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Crackdown on Forth Road Bridge lorries ignoring high wind dangers



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Published Date: 16 April 2008
AN action group has been set up to tackle lorries ignoring high-wind warnings on the Forth Road Bridge.
Drivers are facing delays of up to two hours on approaches to the crossing during periods of high-wind, as police deal with lorries ignoring warnings not to cross.

Bridge operator FETA is powerless to stop high-sided vehicles crossing since the to
ll booths were demolished.

The bridgemaster has drafted in the help of police after dozens of lorries tried to ignore warnings not to cross in poor weather in recent months.

When the wind warnings are in place, two patrol cars park on the northbound plaza with officers flagging down any lorries and sending them to the Kincardine Bridge. A similar operation is put in place on the Fife side.

However, delays of between one and two hours are being experienced on the A90, M9 spur and A904 during the rush hour, according to FETA.

Bridge bosses have now convened a group of transport, council and police officials to look at ways of stopping lorries ignoring the warnings and preventing delays.

This includes a review of all roadside communications and closer working with the haulage industry.

Police chiefs today revealed they had been called to the bridge five times in recent months, with officers in place for up to nine hours.

Chief Inspector Sandy Allan, of the Lothian and Borders road policing unit, said: "Those who have ignored the signs are not only delaying themselves but also causing problems for other drivers.

"We have to implement a plan to redirect vehicles that have, for whatever reason, ignored the signs, and that takes a commitment from our resources."

SNP councillor and FETA board member Norman Work said: "The roads seizing up has a real impact on everyone in the town, and I am surprised that something wasn't sussed out before the toll booths were taken away.

"We need to look at a way of stopping the lorries before they even get to the bridge."

A spokesman for FETA said: "Strong wind restrictions are clearly displayed on signs on the approaches to the bridge.

"It is the individual driver's responsibility to take heed of these and divert via an alternative route."

The number of closures on the bridge caused by high winds hit a six-year high in 2006-07.

The 44-year-old bridge was shut to high-sided vehicles for nearly 11 days. In January, the crossing was completely closed for several hours after sections of an overhead painting platform broke off in strong winds.

Three weeks later a lorry was blown over just before the morning rush hour, closing three of the four lanes.

Then last month, the bridge was closed for much of the day when a lorry was overturned by a 68 mph gust of wind.

• New electronic signs are to be installed on the bridge.

Bridge bosses have ruled that the existing signs – which warn of local hazards, lane closures, high winds and speed limits – are no longer fit for purpose.

Work on the bridge is scheduled to get under way in June and be completed by October.





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  • Last Updated: 16 April 2008 12:00 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Forth Bridges , Transport
 
1

Mystic Swordsman,

on the job 16/04/2008 12:05:46
How were Southbound high sided vehicles prevented from crossing before the tolls were removed?

2

Heretic_,

16/04/2008 12:12:32
It's a bit rich of an SNP councillor to say something should have been sussed out before the tolls were removed - wasn't it his party that decided removing the tolls was the most urgent priority in Scotland following the election?
3

allknowing,

16/04/2008 12:13:49
This is nothing new!!!

There is no law governign this, hence why they do this!

In the past, trucks southbound always went over when it was windy. I even called feta to tell them this, but was told there was nothing they could do!! I then asked what if a car owner went over when the bridge was totally colsed off, and agin, the reply was, nothing we can do!!

Its quite simple folks, if trucks blow over and cause you to be late, file a small claim in the local court, and ask for money due to loss of earnings etc. Its the only way they will learn. If you also did this with idiots who drive into the back of people and cuase mayhem on the bypass and queesferry st, people might start paying attention!
4

Heretic_,

16/04/2008 12:15:49
#1 - Fife Police have always diverted high sided vehicles coming south, and the queues are never as bad in that direction.

I think Lothian & Borders Police aare still on something of a learning curve.
5

Some guy,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 12:29:57
I can't belive the ignorance of some of these idiots that try to cross. Coming south the other day, it was getting mentioned constantly on the radio and there was numerous signs for miles before the bridge telling everything other than cars they cant cross the bridge. I get to the bridge and have to wait while something like 10 or 15 vehicles are turned round.
6

Freddy,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 13:23:54
'How were Southbound high sided vehicles prevented from crossing before the tolls were removed?' - exactly, there were no tolls to stop them so why blame the removal of tolls, that would only affect northbound traffic. Anyone tried checking to see if the recent accidents were due to north or south bound lorries?

7

Xena - Warrior Princess,

16/04/2008 14:22:54
If the lorry drivers are getting plenty of warning not to cross due to the weather - fine them.
8

Scotish Exile,

16/04/2008 14:52:46
If they attepmt to cross, fine them and take their licenses off them and confiscate the lorries, that will stop them, simple really.
9

Local Lass,

South Queensferry 16/04/2008 14:55:07
I work in Edinburgh and stay in South Queensferry - should normally be a 30 minute journey (tops) yet I'm having to spend hours every week sitting in bleeding queues of traffic for all these hordes of people heading back home to Fife who think that it's a good idea to take a "shortcut" through the Ferry and hold up residents from getting to their homes at a decent time. I gave up the other week when the queues were back to the Hawes Inn and abandoned my car (which I car share with other Ferry folk) and we all walked the final mile to our homes. Ridiculous.....
10

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16/04/2008 15:17:43
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11

Jehovah,

16/04/2008 15:47:20
#9 I sympathise - it's never been clear to me where exactly these people think they are taking a short cut to.

It strikes me that the bridge authority has been put between a rock and a hard place - either tighten restrictions, and cause more delays while lorries are turned away, or relax restrictions and cause more delays due to overturned lorries!
12

Incandescent,

16/04/2008 16:02:50
#9 and #11. I commented on these rat-runners sometimes choking the entire town in this thread the other day:

http://news.scotsman.com/topstories/Town-gets-on-road-to.3981313.jp#2717689

We can no doubt expect to be treated to the "wisdom" of D Napier on this subject too at some point.
13

valleyjim,

driving to fife via the ferry. 16/04/2008 16:47:07
#9. My car is road taxed, insured and mot tested at great expense. If I decide to drive through south queensferry then that is my prerogative. Perhaps you should consider public transport. This will also keep you fit and trim.
14

ChrisEH26,

Penicuik 16/04/2008 16:47:10
If truck drivers attempt to cross the bridge when they have been told not to then why don't they just confiscate the truck and its contents. I am sure hauliers would soon take a great deal more care if that happened a few times. Surely the police must realise that it could also be an ideal terror target as all you need is two trucks each way and the bridge is out of action for hours.
15

spunkycaveman,

The Kindgom 16/04/2008 16:58:07
I find the managment at the bridge a joke. If any other managemnt team performed as badly as they do the would be as Sir Alan Sugar puts it FIRED. Their incompatence leads to delays on a weekly basis. I recall recently arriving at the bridge to find the entire north bound carrageway close, the only reason I could see was that a worker was at the far north end turning a sign around. Another time it was closed and they had one van sitting in the carrageway, unreal.
16

Incandescent,

16/04/2008 17:04:36
#13. I agree entirely with your right in principle. However, it makes no sense to do so in order to avoid congestion on the bridge approach. The additional traffic generated from the West and East simply creates a vicious cycle of frustration, leading people to force their way onto the Echline roundabout in an attempt to rejoin the fife-bound queue and leading to even worse tailbacks through SQ than the "proper" northbound queue. If people would stay on the main route, there would be less interruption to the main flow and everyone would get home earlier.
17

spunkycaveman,

The Kingdom 16/04/2008 17:07:57
... and whilst I remember why are they putting a bus lane in at the north end? The bridgemaster (cool name) stated that whilst this work was being carried out the bus stop would be relocated to the big layby at the north end. Why not relocate it there full stop, saving money and ending the delays at the weekend.
18

Duncan in Edinburgh,

16/04/2008 17:24:04
There appear to be a few names missing from this debate. Weren't there a significant number of posters who told me before the tolls were removed that there would be no congestion? Is this congestion not real congestion then?
19

Brian M,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 17:39:51
#18 and others

It only takes more than 2 cars coming through S Queensferry in opposite directions to cause congestion (even on a quiet Sunday morning) not the the scrapping of bridge tolls
20

me150,

16/04/2008 17:39:57
Remedy....

Bring back the tolls.

Get rid of the objection vote minority party who claim to be running the country.
21

Incandescent,

16/04/2008 17:59:57
#18 Duncan

Nothing to do with the absence of the tolls - it's the absurdly drawn-out works to remove them, the record number of wind-related partial closures and needless bus-lane works causing the problems and, as mentioned the "snake-eating-it's-own-tail" phenomenon that is rat-running through SQ village, Dalment and SQ upper town. The concept is so simple but folk just don't seem to get it - wish there was even a basic facility on this board to draw and save a diagram!
22

Mike H,

Livingston 16/04/2008 18:14:01
If any truck drivers ignore the signs they should just pull them over into a dedicated waiting area on either side and not allow them to move until the bridge conditions are normal again, for theirs and others safety.

I imagine very few truck drivers would want to take the risk of crossing with that sanction in place.
23

Klaus Dubois,

Edinburgh 16/04/2008 19:29:17
#9, 11, 12

I have a great deal of sympathy. The clowns at FETA have, so far, taken 3 months to demolish a few booths & remove a canopy. I don't mind how long they take, but take great exception to them creating traffic chaos & misery, not to mention huge amounts of pollution while miles of cars move at < 1mph.

#13 you're really missing the point.
24

tracy and scott,

south queensferry 16/04/2008 20:14:57
* 13 totally missing the point. by all means tax, insure and top fuel up and pay to maintain your car, drive where you will.
traffic in SQ can be at a total stand still for up to 3hrs when there are high winds people cant get in or out of the place stopping those using public transport from getting to edinburgh or getting back from edinburgh or anywhere, no one can go to tesco/scotmid or get back from school meetings are disrupted crossing the road is a nightmare as people decide to drive on the wrong side of the road to avoid traffic and hold ups. Oh it is great fun . and all because some inconsiderate drivers choose to ignore the safety signs on the approach to the bridge.
25

john z,

edinburgh 16/04/2008 22:41:59
Getting rid of the tolls was a damm god thing done by the new SNP government.

The problem of dim truck drivers ignoring restrictions is another issue. It;s up to FETA to do what they are paid huge wadges of tax payers money to do, get it sorted. Instead of whining.
26

Saoghal Beag,

16/04/2008 23:11:43
pull the trucks over hold them there and make them wait till the wind abaits. if they have ignored the signs and are determined to cross the forth road bridge then so be it they will have to bide their time.

Local Lass there is a really good cycle route from teh town center to S queensferry. when i staid in tollcross and worked on the west of the city i knew the cycle route was a guaranteed 20 mins regrdless of traffic.
27

supersh,

South Queensferry 18/04/2008 12:17:05
Just ban high-sided vehicles from the bridge altogether...

 

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