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Published Date:
06 November 2007
A WIDOW had her windows smashed by a mob of 30 youths after they let off a barrage of 500 fireworks outside her front door.
The gang set off the rockets in the stairwell of Mandy Gray's block in Willowbrae last night - just one of hundreds of incidents recorded on the busiest ever Bonfire Night for Edinburgh's firefighters.

Mrs Gray - who lost her 47-year-old husband Frank to terminal cancer three weeks ago - began video taping the youths and they responded by pelting her windows with stones, smashing four of them.

The 41-year-old said the teenagers, thought to be between 13 and 19-years-old, were laughing and filming what they were doing on their mobile phones.

It is the third year in a row that Mrs Gray's block in Meadowfield Drive - which she shares with three pensioners - has been targeted.

The full-time carer said she had pleaded with local youths two weeks ago to leave her alone this year because she was still grieving for her late husband.

Operators at the fire and rescue service's control room in Tollcross received 826 calls from 6pm last night, well up on last year's record total of 770.

In one incident, a firework was deliberately put through the window of a flat in Murieston Place, Dalry, causing a small fire in a bathroom.

Stray fireworks also sparked a blaze on Arthur's Seat near the Crags which fire crews were still damping down this afternoon.

In Leith, a children's playpark in Madeira Street was set alight, while one resident reported a gang of teenagers throwing fireworks at his house on Prince Regent Street, and at passing pensioners, just before 8pm last night.

Today, a shaken Mrs Gray told the Evening News she was alone in the house - which she shares with her son Christopher, 24 - at the time of last night's attack.

"It was absolutely terrifying, it sounded like World War Three when the bangers were going off in the stairwell and it is not fair because there are only four of us in the block and my neighbours are all pensioners.

"I probably shouldn't have gone to the window with the camera but why should we have to put up with this?

"I heard them shouting 'Pan her windows in' and they started throwing stones at the windows, stones from my garden, I think.

"About a fortnight ago, I actually saw one of the group and asked them to leave us alone this year because I had lost my husband, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference."

Neighbour Jack Kelly, 75, who has lived in the block for six years, said the residents have regularly been a target on Bonfire Night.

He said: "I actually thought we had got away with it this year because it had been pretty quiet, but then there was this almighty bang and I knew what it was.

"It was just horrendous, incredibly frightening but it is something we have grown to expect every year now - it is very sad.

"My front door has been damaged by the fireworks so I'll need to get the insurance to look at that. I also saw that trees up the road had been set on fire."

The incident took place around 9.30pm last night and police today said around 30 youths were reportedly involved.

A Lothian and Borders spokesman said: "We are keen to speak to anyone who saw this group in the Willowbrae area last night. This could have resulted in serious injury."

The full article contains 598 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 06 November 2007 2:37 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

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06/11/2007 14:46:11
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2

AlanW,

edinburgh 06/11/2007 14:50:10

#1 What does this story have to do with Halloween?

3

foz,

Pluto 06/11/2007 14:51:12

1# Its not, Its Guy Fawkes night. Anyway, why should that poor woman or anyone put up with that? Acceptable is it?

4

Hula,

06/11/2007 14:59:19

Hope the video evidence is sound and they do these scrotes.

5

JML,

06/11/2007 15:04:42

If any of these little sh*tes are caught, they'll get a rap on the knuckles and off they'll go.

My condolences, Mrs Gray, on the loss of your husband. No-one should have to put up with that kind of behaviour, but especially not while grieving.
I really am sorry.

6

Hamish B,

Edinburgh 06/11/2007 15:05:06

ONE THING IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ABOUT FIREWORKS AND THAT IS THAT THEY SHOULD BE BANNED FROM PUBLIC USE AS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BUY THEM UNLESS YOU ARE AN IDIOT LOOKING TO INJURE SOMEONE SEVERELY. EITHER THAT OR ONE MUST OBTAIN A LICENCE OF SOME SORT AS THIS IS JUST GETTING OUT OF HAND

7

Who Am I To Say,

06/11/2007 15:07:28

We go through this scenario year after year but the message still does not get across - BAN THE SALE OF THESE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC - ORGANISED DISPLAYS ONLY. The thing is, there's little profit in that and it's all about profit nowadays.

8

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06/11/2007 15:10:01
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9

The Judge,

06/11/2007 15:15:46

#4 The police won't even look at the video, they don't have to, they know who it was but are powerless to do anything about it.

10

Märiö Antoinette,

06/11/2007 15:32:14

When will we learn ? These are EXPLOSIVES. Stop giving them to kids ! Stop selling them !

11

Markle,

By the Fort, Leith 06/11/2007 15:38:22

Why are the police/youth action team not making their presence felt on nights like these, especially in problem/flashpoint areas like last night?? I witnessed the inferno at the Madeira Street 'playpark' - not as nice as it sounds and actually in the confines of the Fort Estate - last night, and we could have done with some patrolling police. But as usual there were none to be seen. They know there's likely to be trouble, so why don't they get sent out?? Because there are not enough of them or because they are too frightened for their own safety?

12

Comerscroft,

06/11/2007 15:41:14

### 11 ###

On the contrary.

Give the little buggers even more powerful fireworks in the hope that they WILL blow themselves up.

I, for one, will not mourn.

13

JML,

06/11/2007 15:48:20

#13 - so what happens if one of the little buggers blows themselves up right beside one of your kids/partner/sister/etc

Fireworks should be left to the professionals. Apart from anything else it's antisocial and unfair on animals.

I had to bring one of my pets to a Veterinary Hospital last night and there were a shower of gits in the garden next door to the surgery letting off fireworks right beside where sick animals are being cared for. The surgery had complained but they can't force them to stop!

14

Justy,

Abbeyhill 06/11/2007 15:57:48

Why on earth are Scots celebrating Nevember 5 anyway? It has nothing to do with this country.
My sympathies go out to Mrs Gray.
Justy.

15

wattie>x 1,

06/11/2007 16:05:25

Sad reflection of a UK divided society slowly but surely tottering towards calamity and possible anarchy.
The present state of lawlessness and seemingly lack of care and thought for others, if allowed to continue much longer in Brown's UK, now more divided than ever before, since the Thatcher days augers nothing other than disaster.
Locally last week where I live; we had a man aged fifty years attacking an elderly man 93 years old, in an argument over a parking space when shopping. The old fellow sadly died later that afternoon. This sort of behavior typifies the real UK we are now living in and not that off Brown's pious New Labour Socialists who pretend doesn't exist. They don't have to live in environments such as this; as their politburo and handpicked stooge MPs with their families are well protected and isolated far from such sorry incidents.

16

Jackmeister,

06/11/2007 16:16:41

Why doesn't the Evening News do something useful and back a campaign to ban the sale of firewords to the public? I for one would be happy to support this.

17

dig dig dig,

06/11/2007 16:22:51

Why do we still sell these things what is the point
of it, All the misery so that the morons can wreak havoc on the rest of us. Ban them from sale.

18

Northfieldhearts,

06/11/2007 16:27:56

Enough is Enough. Ban them now. Wee neds plus fireworks can only mean torment and distress to locals.

19

Al Kiholick,

06/11/2007 16:29:37

Yeah you're right #18 (Rulesbutnotrulers) "The ignorance the Scots have of their own history" can be summed up by your own post....

"Guy Fawkes is nothing to do with Scotland at all"...

...except that the king he wanted to blow up was Scottish (James VI- 3 years after the Union of the Crowns) and as has also been quoted Fawkes stated that he "wanted to blow the Scots back to Scotland".

Do tell us more about the ignorance of Scots to thier own history.

20

Isabel,

06/11/2007 16:31:40

I'm with those who want to ban the sale of fireworks to general public. Fireworks are getting into the hands of too many irresponsible and downright evil people. there should only be properly organised, licenced displays. It does seem a pity that the more responsible members of the public would not be able to buy fireworks but we have to think about the safety of people and animals.

Any SMP or MP who is for banning the sale of fireworks and bringing back law and order will get my vote.

21

JFW,

New Town 06/11/2007 16:38:39

in fairness to the Police - there aren't enough of them (and they aren't paid enough) to deal with the mayhem at this time of the year, or even a regular Saturday night for that matter. Besides, they're so tied up with bureaucracy that they can't get their job done, and, as many people know, most of these neds are juveniles, and nothing can be done with them until they actually seriously injure or kill someone, otherwise they're back out on the street within hours. It's a pointless exercise for the Police to pick them until someone decides to change the laws to allow these little fcukers to be punished in a way that'll make them sit up and pay attention.

22

JG,

Fife 06/11/2007 16:42:00

Banning fireworks is only one part of this. The wee neds concerned deliberately smashed this woman's window with stones. In the unlikely event that they are caught, they should have to pay for the damage - if they are too young, get the parents to pay. And keep on doing that until the people who spawned these little gets finally realise that IT'S THEIR FAULT!!!

23

Markle,

By the Fort, Leith 06/11/2007 16:52:11

JG - your sentiments are beautifully optimistic and totally naive. Kids round where I am do far worse and never have to pay. They know they can do whatever they like because they will never be punished. Our authorities are impotent.

24

Voice of reason,

06/11/2007 16:55:30

Sounds like Hibs fans to me .

25

BusOff,

06/11/2007 17:07:19

Its no good just putting all these responses in the Evening News OnLine - we need to organise a protest outside the Scottish Parliament Building and another at the Council Offices to make them aware of our call to STOP THE SALE OF THESE 'BOMBS' TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
I enjoy ORGANISED FIREWORKS and its a once a year treat for all - The thugs have got to be stopped from causing mayhem every year.

GET LEGISLATION IN PLACE NOW READY FOR NEXT YEAR!!!!

26

Mike H,

06/11/2007 17:24:16

I just cannot get my head round this, MI5 are closely watching anything to do with bomb making on the net and elsewhere yet retailers are allowed to sell explosives over the counter to anyone at this time of the year. How long until someone is killed by the ignorance of these @rseholes. Ban the sale of these fireworks now and only allow licensed, safe displays. I agree with #27

GET LEGISLATION IN PLACE NOW.

27

Ian Ross,

Edinburgh 06/11/2007 17:33:41

Why do we celebrate an 'act of terrorism' ? Because that is what it is ! I had to have the TV on loud last night to try and drown out the noise of them and to pacify my dog. And don't say keep your pets indoors. Dogs' hearing is infinitely better than a human's, so what is only a nuisance to us is like an atom bomb going off to them. The amount of indiscriminate letting off of fireworks is out of order, and it lasts for weeks. Today's fireworks are too powerful to be on sale to the public, so ban it. I am no killjoy, but enough is enough - esp at 3 am in the morning.

28

freakykat,

le burgh o edin 06/11/2007 18:32:14

i love fireworks and every year go out with my friends to set some off. we find a decent spot at arthurs seat, check the way the wind is blowing and have ourselves some fun.......its not the shops selling them or the fireworks themselves i blame but the government, our educational establishments and the parents for not setting good examples and teaching us the difference between right and wrong.......im in my mid twenties and alot of the 'youths' i was out with last night would never dream of doing such attrocities to people.......neds and scum who do or refuse to know better should not have to spoil the fun for the more mature and careful people out there........long live our freedom to do what we like- unfortunatly i doubt that will continue because of poorly educated individuals intent on causing havok.

29

Conan the Librarian™,

06/11/2007 18:37:39
30

ConcernedParent,

06/11/2007 18:41:47

I see the "BAN EVERYTHING!!".."STOP SELLING THEM" brigade are out in force once again.

fireworks are harmless & fun in the hands of most people. because most people are sane and considerate.. A few MORONS should not be allowed to spoil it for everyone else. what we need to do is lock up the complete tossers who use them as weapons and put them through ppl's letterboxes.

of course, that would be stepping on their "human rights", wouldn't it?

the country is screwed!!!!

31

Jebediah,

Edinburgh 06/11/2007 18:55:09

The only reason these little s**ts get away with this behaviour is because this country has become too P.C and liberal. sure at that age everyone has caused mischief in some way but this goes way beyond that. Its easy to say ban fireworks and i do agree that they should BUT they have been on sale since time memorial, with only rare incidents like this happening. Its only in the last 10 years have we seen these behaviour problems escalate with higher degrees of violence. The main problem is that these thugs KNOW that nobody can stop them so they are becoming more violent to see what they can get away with... and if we do anything its US that gets done for it , why? cause we are easier to deal with than these idiots - give the police more powers to stop them

32

GrahamH,

06/11/2007 18:56:46

#1. Your cycle ride must have taken 5 days if you think it's a story about halloween.

Cyclists do get home quicker, riding on pavements, crashing red lights, using pedestrian crossings.... Many don't have your intelligence which is worrying.

33

Politically Incorrect Thank You Very Much,

Galway, Ireland 06/11/2007 19:02:01

What I can't understand is why, when I was a teenager (late 1980's), this sort of behaviour would have been punished but now the culprits seem to have free reign to do as they please.

For Gods sake, they even film it and put it on the world wide intraweb for all to see and still nothing happens.

Serious question, I'm not stupid, but I cannot fathom out why we appear to allow this to happen? Is it a case of second generation junkies with no parental control and why on earth do these half wits find it fun in the first place?

34

JG,

Fife 06/11/2007 19:07:56

#25 Markle
I appreciate it won't ever happen because people never take responsibility for their actions - even breeding! If one of these little sh!ts belonged to you, then it would be YOUR fault it behaved badly. The Police are often rendered impotent because stupid parents years ago protested that their little darlings got a boot up the @rse from the local bobby. Now it's the wee neds who run the streets after dark, secure in the knowledge they'll get away with everything.

35

wheatfield all stars,

feels like beirut! 06/11/2007 19:18:57

when are people in this country going to stop talking and start taking action against these little fcuking neds and arseholes who know they can get away with anything?bring back the birch;that will sort them out.or start to implement the"broken windows "policy like in new york.its now time to stop talking and start doing,otherwise could the last person to leave please switch off the lites

36

Helen,

06/11/2007 19:24:21

Let's hope they are caught, and let's hope they are properly punished. They could start by going round to this lady's house and apologising, then cleaning up the mess they have made and paying for the damage....with their parents in tow. They should also be banned from purchasing fireworks....ever, and receive a hefty fine plus maximum hours of community service. When these little neds realise that crime doesn't pay then they won't commit crime. Until then unfortunately....

37

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06/11/2007 20:14:34
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38

ROXY ROOLS,

edinburgh 06/11/2007 20:58:14

The noise last night was unbearable. I would ban them immediately except for official displays. This city is geting worse each day.. the police either have no power to keep youths in control or choose to do nothing about it.

A couple of years ago, I lost my mobile phone..whoever found it made some nasty calls and the police came to my work and in front of colleagues threatened to lift me!
Any respect I had for them, evaporated that day.
How could they not get to that woman's street and get rid of that mob..nearest police stations are Portobelo and Leith...NOT Portsmouth and Leeds

39

is it me?,

Edinburgh 06/11/2007 21:04:10

41 Wini
I don't know which part of England you're in , but you're one of the lucky ones.
Read any "local" paper for most cities in the UK and you'll see that feral brats are a national problem. This can't be laid at the door of the Police to deal with. Most cities have an ongoing level of serious crime, without them having to deal with the upsurge in malicious behaviour by underclass neds "celebrating".
Where are the parents?
See Wattie's post at #16.

40

Bob 2,

06/11/2007 21:14:59

how you cant you get a policeman when you need one.

Seen the same down our way, called the police one night, Local kids were vandalisng the lights in the local park, 2 hours later they turned up........

But surprisingly (NOT) they are always available to cover "firework" displays & galas.

Comment No9...No doubt if when you phoned, if you'd said I've hit one of the "youths", the police would have appeared quicker than you are reading this.

Fireworks should be sold a few days before Bonfire Night, not weeks.

Then you get the neighbours who think nothing of setting these things off in residential areas, terrifing Pets.....Despite many of the local community organised displays...Free off Charge..why do they need to keep up with Jones

41

Isabel,

06/11/2007 21:19:11

Wini #36 & #41

Unfortunately, we don't do sensible in Scotland. Maybe we should have your police up here.

Some time ago, I wrote to either my local councillor or MP - I can't remember which - but it was a complete waste of time. It would appear that those who have the power to stop all the out-of-control behaviour couldn't care less.

42

Mystified,

East Lothian 06/11/2007 21:57:52

Sooner there is a total public ban on the sale of fireworks the better. Fed up with the neds around our area setting them off for about a fortnight before 5th November every year - what's the point?

I really feel for Mrs Gray and I hope they nail the little *******s.

43

techpunk,

06/11/2007 22:53:42

does anyone know about the carbon footprints of fireworks?

woooooohhhh!

bet its "big"

44

Eve,

Caithness. 06/11/2007 22:58:42

Below the statue of Justice, an inscription carved in stone reinforces this message: Defend the children of the poor and punish the wrongdoer. Today it is the total opposite. Forget the children of the poor and Protect the wrongdoer. So easy for the wicked to reoffend and not be brought to book.
Mrs. Gray do not let yourself be disheartened, let your spirit shine. My condolences on the loss of your husband.

45

is it me?,

Edinburgh 06/11/2007 23:36:59

#44 Wini
I think you missed my point, but never mind.
What I was trying to say was that these incidents happen in the suburbs of most major cities in the UK and are not peculiar to Edinburgh. Police activity cannot be expected to expand and contract to be in loco parentis when they have a constant level of urban crime to cope with.
I too live in a "safe area " of a major city and am only concerned that it should continue to be so.
Why is it that I can't read your posts without imagining a Mrs Doubtfire accent dearie ?

46

COLINTON.MAINS,

canada 06/11/2007 23:57:40

edinburgh.you.are.sick.city.now

47

COLINTON.MAINS,

canada 07/11/2007 00:25:27

mrs,gray.god.bless.you

48

Jayess,

Marchmont 07/11/2007 01:57:36

We won’t allow air passengers to carry liquids onto planes, for fear these may be ingredients to make an explosive. We search people for knives, nail files, belt buckles, and anything else that could be used as a weapon -
But we will allow anyone over 18 to buy and detonate any amount of inflammable explosive devices in public spaces, on certain days of celebration.

We deplore ill-treatment of children, elderly people, mentally incapacitated and invalid persons, house-hold pets and other animals -
But we will allow selfish fun-seeking retards to drive them to distraction, and in some cases to death, by terrifying them with a series of explosions; usually at night when the weakest (humans and animals) are at their lowest ebb.

What kind of society are we allowing to develop in this country? I won't be here in another 20 years, but God help those of you who are, and remember you just stood by and watched it all happen.

49

chain,

07/11/2007 02:34:59

gorgie tony - possibly the most stupid thing ive ever read on here - congratulations.

they threw stones too, lets ban them, BAN THE STONES!. knives? - ban them. ban it all. spoons and forks too - BAN THEM,!

50

wee linda,

Broxburn 07/11/2007 07:38:16

I agree that there should be a ban on fireworks except for public displays. First if all though the public should have a vote on this as this affects everyone in Scotland as its happening more and more. I dont understand why the Councils dont do anything about it as it must be costing a fortune for the clear ups alone never mind the injuries that people and animals (real animals not yobs!!) recieve.

51

Biker,

Ayr 07/11/2007 11:31:29

Chain Perhaps not as silly as your post. Dont forget that fireworks are explosives. How stupid do you have to be to not realise that kids + explosives = carnage. It's time to ban these explosives except for organised displays, the ned problem is quite another thing.
Wini, if only it was as easy as moving to another area. Many people (old people for example) dont have the financial flexibility to just up sticks and move, much like the lady in the picture. Tighter controls on kids and their parents is what is required.

52

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/11/2007 12:03:09

#7:

Hamish,

Fireworks should NOT be banned from sale at all. Why should millions of law-abiding people be denied their enjoyment because of the actions of a few idiots?

There is already a law against kids buying fireworks. Enforce it. There is already a law against setting fireworks off in a public place. Enforce it. There is already a law against causing a disturbance. Enforce it. There is already a law against throwing stones through people's windows. Enforce it.

WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE LAWS!!!

Gorgie Tony may have a point... I personally think that the police force has been cut in favour of speed cameras and "wardens". However, if wardens are given what formerly used to be the job of the police, where were they in this case? Or maybe it's not considered safe for them to go out at night...

53

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 08/11/2007 10:39:17

The law needs to be much harder on these neds/nedettes.

What is obvious from this report is that these criminals have no fear of the law to a very frightening extent.

They were being filmed by this lady using her video camera, they saw this and decided to react violently. It just goes to show that they were prepared to carry out this attack knowing that the police would be involved and could use the video to identify them, obviously they knew fullwell that little, if anything would be done - our legal system is surely shamefully poor and is failing to protect the public when this kind of attitude prevails amongst a proportion of our 'youngsters'.

Make them and their families pay for any damage and give the perpetrators a dose of the birch which needs to restored for crimes of violence and extreme anti-social behaviour such as this.

This poor lady has been through a very hard and sad time. I am sure all posters and readers will join me in expressing sympathy.


 

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