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Published Date: 19 May 2007
WENDY Alexander made a return to frontline politics yesterday as Jack McConnell, the Labour leader, appointed her shadow finance minister.
Ms Alexander's return to the front bench at Holyrood was part of a wide-ranging reshuffle after Labour's failure to hold on to power at Holyrood.

Her appointment - to shadow John Swinney as minister for finance and sustainable growth - gives Ms A
lexander a high-profile role which will leave her well placed to stand for the party leadership.

As cabinet secretary for finance and sustainable growth, Mr Swinney has a vast range of responsibilities.

Many Labour MSPs believe that Mr McConnell, who led the party to second place in the Scottish elections, will choose to resign as leader or be forced out before the next Holyrood elections.

Ms Alexander, who pulled out of standing against Mr McConnell for the leadership after Henry McLeish had to resign, stayed on as a minister but eventually left the cabinet in 2002.

Last night, MSPs were speculating that Mr McConnell had brought her back into frontline politics to limit her ability to be a backbench focus for discontent with his leadership.

However, others said that they thought that Mr McConnell had no choice in that he needed Ms Alexander's abilities to ensure that Mr Swinney's super-ministry faces proper scrutiny.

In other changes announced yesterday, former parliamentary business minister, and another candidate for the leadership, Margaret Curran is promoted to shadow justice minister.

Her previous role in charge of parliamentary business has been taken by Cathy Jamieson. This means the deputy leader will also sit on the parliamentary bureau which decides the order of legislation, a key role in a minority government.

The third leadership contender Andy Kerr retains the health brief and Hugh Henry remains in education.

Iain Gray, the former minister who lost his Holyrood seat in 2003 but returned as MSP for East Lothian last month, is shadow enterprise minister.

The only departure is Tom McCabe, who steps down from finance to be Labour's nominee for a place on the Scottish Parliament Corporate Body - the group that runs Holyrood.

It is understood that Mr McCabe was offered a senior post by Mr McConnell but did not wish to continue in a frontline role.

Junior posts have meant promotion for a number of members. Pauline McNeill will shadow the children's minister, Paul Martin the community safety minister and Ken MacIntosh the schools minister.

Announcing his new line-up, Mr McConnell said: "While we disagree strongly with Alex Salmond's decision to create a guddle of cabinet responsibilities, Labour will form an effective opposition by shadowing each minister directly.

"I am particularly pleased to welcome Wendy Alexander and Iain Gray back to frontline politics, and to promote Pauline McNeill, Ken MacIntosh and Paul Martin, who will use their parliamentary skills to very good effect in holding the new government accountable."

He described the new front bench team as "able, experienced and committed to building a better Scotland".

"We will oppose Nationalist plans which would damage Scotland, but we will also seek to work with the new government, and others, where we can agree measures which will build up Scotland," he said.

He went on: "Tom McCabe served Scotland well in his ministerial duties and I will always be very grateful for the dedication and good judgment he showed.

"This new, divided parliament will need strong, experienced people to manage the institution and I am delighted Tom wishes to serve in the Corporate Body."

Meanwhile, the Scottish Conservatives also announced their front bench with a couple of re-shuffles.

Derek Brownlee, at 32 one of the youngest MSPs, is the finance spokesman while Murdo Fraser has taken on the education brief. Mary Scanlon has taken health and Bill Aitken has justice and John Scott has rural affairs.

Like all the parties, the Conservatives have chosen a hard hitter to sit in the Parliamentary Bureau - David McLetchie.

The Liberal Democrats are due to announce their shadow cabinet next week.

Success built on politically independent frame of mind
IT IS a phrase which has become common currency amongst Scotland's political journalists and commentators.

If you see a colleague clutching a sheaf of papers covered in graphs and looking puzzled, it's a fair bet they have been "Wendy-ied".

The Wendy in question is Alexander, newly restored to a senior role in the ranks of a Scottish Labour group at Holyrood which is slowly adjusting to the unfamiliar position of being the opposition.

Ms Alexander is, unquestionably, one of the brightest MSPs at Holyrood, probably the brightest, and her formidable intellectual ability will be deployed in holding John Swinney and his 'super-ministry' to account.

Her qualifications testify to that ability. She graduated with MA(Hons) from Glasgow University an MA(Econ) from Warwick University and an MBA from the prestigious INSEAD institution in France.

But there is more to Wendy Alexander than brains. Politics runs in the family. Brother Douglas is Transport Secretary and Scottish Secretary too. When she was young she was a researcher for the Scottish Labour party. When she was very young she worked for George Galloway, though she does not boast about that now.

Wendy and Douglas are children of the manse, raised with Presbyterian values, dinner table debate and that particular kind of Kirk egalitarianism that valued intellectualism and hard work - a background she shares with her mentor Gordon Brown.

If Donald Dewar was the father of the nation, Ms Alexander might be said to be the daughter who took forward his political inheritance.

She was one of Mr Dewar's special advisers in the Scottish Office and became an MSP and one of his cabinet ministers in 1999.

But Ms Alexander has always denied being from one of the two great factions in the modern UK Labour party, once saying: "I'm not anyone's girl - certainly not Gordon Brown's girl."



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1

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/05/2007 00:02:44

Welcome back Wendy, and Iain Gray too. Jack's night of the long knives is finally overcome. Looking forward to hearing you both take the case to Parliament.

2

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 00:03:15

If she utters the phrase "Smart Successful Scotland" ever again I swear I'll buy a gun.

She is certainly not bright. Her approach to economics is based entirely on theory rather than any real practical knowledge or understanding of what makes an economy tick.

Just like Gordon Brown is she as good as she makes herself out to be Scotland would have had double digit growth for the past ten years. Instead though our competitiveness and our productivity have been going backwards.

She's a complete and utter waste of space and has contributed nothing but noise to the economy of Scotland.

3

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19/05/2007 00:34:12
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Not Brian Taylor,

nottherecord.blogspot.com 19/05/2007 00:41:45

Wendy is just another Labour hack, who when seen in comparison to her comrades on the McConnell benches suddenly appears to be another Keynes. A Cornetto would seem intelligent next to some of these twonks.

But she gets her write ups from her pals in the press, and we are supposed to hail the gub for the intellectual colossus she is apparently is.

She wouldnae last two weeks in the real world.

5

blueguru,

USA 19/05/2007 00:53:18

#3 Wendy turned into a toad some time ago!

6

Peter Cherbi,

Edinburgh 19/05/2007 01:03:37

This all sounds like Douglas Alexander's night of the long knives instead .. a slightly fiddled election, his sister ends up as Labour Leader (probably) ...what next ?

7

Sean K,

Edinburgh 19/05/2007 01:42:45

When will the Scotsman stop referring to Donald Dewar as "the father of the nation" ?

He fought consistently against any thought of independence - kept that question off the devolution referendum, - and only supported devolution as a way to blunt the pressure for real self-government.

8

somerferg,

oz 19/05/2007 01:47:30

Another load of drivel from Peter Macmahon about the sainted Wendy or it that "satchmo". I'm sure the SNP are just quaking at the the thought of facing this Labour leviathan in the debating chamber (NOT). I really thought more of the Paisley buddies but then I'm sure the monkeys in red were out in force with mini buses on the day!

9

Andy McH,

19/05/2007 01:48:07

Don't put Wendy down too quickly. She was amongst the best performers of the labour party's election campaign. It was unfortunate for her that her party were bereft of positive ideas for Scotland's future and concentrated only on trying put down the Scottish National Party.
I believe that Wendy will, one day, take her place as a Minister in an independent Scottish Government.

10

Bill, Dunblane,

19/05/2007 02:10:03

9 - Andy

What planet have you been on for the last two months?

11

S'me,

19/05/2007 03:47:26

I like Wendy.

12

W Smith,

Middle East 19/05/2007 04:19:00

#2 Dick
Agreed - well said.

13

W Smith,

Middle East 19/05/2007 04:28:39

I see 78 Labour MP's (and only 18 Tory MP's) voted for a bill that will stop some of their financial affairs becoming public knowledge.

It was Tory Lord Baker who said " I would look upon it as a scandalous proposal". Lib Dem MP Norman Baker called it "hypocritical".

Any comments from the Scottish Labour Party?

14

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15

Jeeemy,

19/05/2007 06:37:55

Oh come on take a look at her CV.
She graduated with MA (Hons) from Glasgow University an MA (Econ) from Warwick University and an MBA from the prestigious INSEAD institution in France.
A professional Student, and worked as a researcher for the Scottish Labour party during her Student days and before that she worked for George Galloway, now what experience did she gain from George?
So shall we now look carefully at OOR Peters, efforts to gain credibility with Wendy; look at Wendy’s Academic Qualifications, she got an MA (Hon), so what that means she spent 4 years at Glasgow University so did many others then she went on to a red brick University at Warwick where she did get an MA (econ) so she has spent 6 years at Universities.
Worked for George and the Labour Party as a hack, now she is back on the front bench we will have to suffer her bottle mouth bawling and shouting with nothing constructive coming out of it for the next 4 years or until Jumping Jack does a runner.

16

Roy,

19/05/2007 06:55:10

With the re-imvention of Spitting Image:

Exit Roy Hattersley

Enter Wendy Alexander

Think about it!

17

Cadgers,

Perth 19/05/2007 07:05:45

#2 Well said Dick.

18

redandwhitehoops,

19/05/2007 07:06:32

The only good thing I could say about Wendy is that she's better than Douglas...on second thoughts, it's too close to call.

19

steve 1511,

19/05/2007 07:15:12

never had a real job in her life like her brother ,how do these professional motor mouths represent the people of scotland

20

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/05/2007 07:19:30

#20 They get elected. Which, I'll wager, is a hell of a lot more than you have ever done.

21

Thomas the Tank,

Embra 19/05/2007 07:25:42

Spot on, Steve #20 - far too many career politicians pretending to run Scotland. Uni (Politics/Economics) - Political Apprenticeship/Researcher - MSP for services to The Party. Never a real job, not a clue how the outside world works but plenty to say about it.

22

Thomas the Tank,

Embra 19/05/2007 07:27:28

Nice to see Duncan in Embra's still Howling at the Moon for Labour - are you one of the Embra party's professional cheerleaders or just an enthusiastic amateur?

23

Thomas the Tank,

Embra 19/05/2007 07:31:54

And, Duncan @21, which is a hell of a lot more than your chum Donald Anderson did !! At least the electorate finally saw through him.

24

Auld Twa,

Edinburgh 19/05/2007 08:03:05

Unless Wendy's simple arithmetic improves on the standard she showed in her pre-election articles and letters John Swinney will not have much trouble dealing with her.

25

Boy Wonder,

19/05/2007 08:03:50

Wendy Alexander in charge of New Labour??? Planning to stay out of power for a long time then, are they??

26

JayJay,

Glasgow-ish 19/05/2007 08:04:03

Since when did an armful of qualifications make someone "bright" or politically astute?
I am sure many of us will have work with the academically gifted individual who could barely operate a photocopier.
So what, she was at several universities. As many people note above, a spell in the real world would do these people the world of good. At least then, rather than speculate on the impact their policies might have, they could aply their real world experience to a situation. We surely need a period where the views of frontline staff are considered in framing policy in health, education etc. Its this detached, we know best, attitude of the Wendy's of this world that leads to waste and disillusionment with the political elite of researchers turned Mps.

27

Rab McClair,

France 19/05/2007 08:04:22

QUOTE.....Don Corleone in the "Godfather"

"Keep Your Friends Close...
.......and Your ENEMIES Closer"

Film Buff are you then Jack??????

28

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 08:04:36

Well, Well . all the commentators making negative remarks about Wendys return to the front benches sound really worried , wonder why ?? that only proves her worth , she hasnt even done anything yet but I`ll bet Salmond and Sturgeon and Swinney are a tad nervous . Because no doubt they will be Wendy`ied soon , Gop get em Wendy ..hehehe

29

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/05/2007 08:04:58

#24 I happen to think that dedicating your life to public service, with the constant brickbats and practically no free time (have you any idea of the hours worked by our MSPs?) is worthy of respect rather than petty, small-minded ridicule. I also happen to think that the governments of which Wendy was part achieved some good for Scotland. So I don't agree with your assessment at all.

Incidentally, my point to Steve in #21, if you read it, was that I'll wager he has never stood for election and received the support of a majority of the electorate. That is what Wendy has done. I suspect it is something you have never done either, Peter, am I right?

It is spectacularly easy to sit on the sidelines and call people names, as the rest of this thread attests. Juvenile people talking about what Wendy looks like - high politics that. But I would be fairly convinced that none of you have ever stood up to be counted in an election and actually won it on the back of what you were saying. Wendy has done that three times so far. To me that says a lot more about her than anything else could.

I look forward to hearing from Steve about his hitherto unmentioned acts of civic good, not to mention the series of elections he has no doubt won in the past. But I'll not be holding my breath. Because people who have participated in work for the common good usually have a much greater respect for others in the same boat.

30

Rab McClair,

France 19/05/2007 08:07:37

Wendy's the brightest politician in Scotland...
..........................and by a distance !!!

Where HAVE you all been????.....she's been telling us this for YEARS !!!.

31

Sheik_mctadger,

19/05/2007 08:17:34

Duncan - if you seriously think Wendy Alexander is force for good in Scotland, so be it. Says more about you than her though. Personally, I think she's an oddball who has clearly had a pampered upbringing, and is someone who cannot deal(understand) "normal" people who disagree with her. She would make a good contestant on The Apprentice

32

mr chips,

19/05/2007 08:18:49

I hear wendy will appear live on spitting image.
Dunky you are a bore, give a rest man.

33

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/05/2007 08:20:36

#33 I would say that your character assassination says more about you than her as well.

34

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 08:21:21

Excuse me all those shouting about Labour ...The SNP got 47 seats only 1 more than Labour
Those that want to keep the Union got 79 there was no landslide as was predicted by SNP supporters and what experiance does Salmond have except for running off at the mouth , He did a quick turn around when it did dawn on hiom more Scots are for the Union hence his " Hokey Cokey Policy" you all know the one " We can leave the Union and if it doesnt Work we can rejoin later " oh!! he work for RSB ..what did he do there ??? find out how many ways to rip of your Customers ??? Alez Big Mammies Boy ... Something he never grew out of ..He must have went through a hell of a lot of Dummies ..Mrs Salmond must have a big supply of them , he is still tthrowing them out his pram .....

35

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/05/2007 08:22:16

#34 By which you mean I'm not going to join in the bullying, personal attack mentality on here? Damn right. Boring you call it? I call it mature. Each to his own.

36

Sheik_mctadger,

19/05/2007 08:34:19

Boudica,

It wasn't long ago that your train of thought was being applied by the Tories with regard to Devolution. Just because you don't want something to happen, doesn't mean it won't. We only need to be lucky once...

37

W Smith,

Middle East 19/05/2007 08:48:34

#37 Duncan in Edinburgh
Wendy's qualifications are impressive.

1) Worked for Booz Allen Hamilton a leading management consultancy - although is sounds like a posh off license.

2) Studied at INSEAD business school.

3) Unfortunately she belongs to a party that isn't exactly business friendly - so why study at business school?

4) She worked for Galloway, the (muslim/catholic) confused communist and Castro supporter who thought Uday Hussein was a really good laugh!

5) She doesn't seem to understand the need to slash corporation tax in Scotland to compete with Ireland and Estonia. If you have to explain it to her then its game over. What good is the MBA?

All this doesn't add up so I think Jeeemy at #15 is correct in calling her a 'professional student' - who might struggle to run a corner shop.

Mind you, she's not the only politician who would struggle.

38

ColinM,

Scotland 19/05/2007 09:03:12

True story

During Wendy's short stint in power she was in a meeting with a well-respected business figure (no names).

He presented the current problems to her clearly (as he had to a busy meeting of senior Scots business people the week before who all heartily agreed with the presentation, and asked that he make Wendy totally aware of the situation).

Wendy listened, and then told him in five minutes, at 100mph, why he was totally wrong and she was right, and had him ushered out of the office.

Her view, he said after, was that she only listened to things that supported her views and anything else was obviously inherently wrong. This despite him leading a major Scottish company with the support of various other similar companies.

With friends like her on your front bench, Jack the Lad, you need very, very few enemies.

39

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 09:09:21

38.
Shiek.
Sorry ..But as they say once aint enough ..
and no matter what you say The Majority in Scotland dont want it , it has been proved hence Salmonds quick about turn regarding the Union Question even Sean Connery remarked that the election got stuck on the "Union " and the SNP`s main Policy ( their only policy) is Independence and most of the votes they did get were protest votes. You know that and so do most in Scotland know it

40

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/05/2007 09:12:56

#40 So you would prefer it if a cabal of business interests were able to pressure the government of the day into doing their bidding! Extraordinary! From my point of view your story only makes me admire her more.

41

Sheik_mctadger,

19/05/2007 09:20:28

41 - I think you're missing the subext of my original post, at some point in the future, Scots will vote for independence in a referendum, whether that's in 5 or 50 years time, it will happen. Hopefully it will be the former, espaically if the Tories beat Brown and start their usual anti-Scottish agenda.

42

Hamilton,

19/05/2007 09:25:00

#2

Dick is being a little unfair to Wendy Alexander. A former enterprise minister, she brought leading international economists to Scotland a few years ago for a series of top-level lectures on how to raise Scotland’s growth rate. How could Scotland meet the challenge of globalisation? http://www.fraser.strath.ac.uk/Allander/AllanderHome.htm

The programme was backed by leading businesses in Scotland including Royal Bank of Scotland, Scottish Power, BP and Scottish & Newcastle. There is also support from entrepreneurs Tom Hunter, Willie Haughey and Jim McColl.

Indications are that Scotland is still not competitive, even within the European Union. However since the series the political framework for the global economy shows signs of changing. Unrest at the status quo has resulted in victory for the Democrats at the US mid-terms, likely changes in France, and international alliances between companies and trade unions.

43

Victor Meldrew Rules,

Irvine 19/05/2007 09:37:21

Over the years in my employment in the Finance Industry my perception of Graduate entrants can be generalised as, the ratio of academic qualification to common sense, ie the more academic the less common sense. Remember there is only a hair's breadth between genius and insanity.

44

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 09:42:47

#44. Hamilton

I'm fully aware of the Allander series. You're right that it attracted some very interesting people all of whom had interesting things to say.

Now tell me what it achieved.

45

Duncan in Edinburgh,

19/05/2007 09:47:26

#45 Sounds like you have done a lot of good Peter. I'm glad no-one is denigrating your work in teh way you are denigrating Wendy's.

46

Le Drapeau Noir,

Gorgie Road 19/05/2007 09:53:46

Having met said Wendy in person I can confirm she is someone of little substance and a cloned labour fixer.No grasp of reality and as someone else alluded to.. no take on basic economics.She does however come across a bit slicker than your normal Labour cooncillor!!!

47

Ubi,

Edinburgh 19/05/2007 09:56:11

Alex Salmond may already have made his first tactical error consolidating this into a single brief. He has set John Swinney up for a tough time at the hands of Ms Alexander who has first hand knowledge of the subject.

Fortunately the madam, though undoubtedly bright, is noted for poor judgement in the heat of battle.

48

John Sutherland,

Edinburgh 19/05/2007 10:09:30

I suppose that Wendy Alexander will get plenty of practice for when she takes over from Jack McConnell as the leader of New Labour in Scotland. That is because Jack McConnell as leader should accept the full blame for his party losing the election and on that basis, he should really be going NOW. However, I believe that he will HAVE to go at some point anyway and it may be that Jack McConnell has seen this and decided to give both Wendy Alexander and Margaret Curran key roles in his new shadow Cabinet, so that they can gain some extra experience before their expected leadership contest.

49

Hamilton,

19/05/2007 10:15:38

#47

Dick thinks the series of economic lectures that Wendy Alexander organised (#44) attracted some very interesting people all of whom had interesting things to say. A plus point?

However he asks what it achieved. Good question: "Indications are that Scotland is still not competitive, even within the European Union. However since the series the political framework for the global economy shows signs of changing. Unrest at the status quo has resulted in victory for the Democrats at the US mid-terms, likely changes in France, and international alliances between companies and trade unions."

50

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 10:17:44

#49. Le Drapeau Noir

I had the same experience. I asked her what the point was of pouring huge amounts of public money into initiatives such as the Proof of Concept programme which only funded university projects (many of which are actually very good projects) without any idea on how to properly commercialise them when they were complete. I specifically asked her whether she'd in fact got at least the tacit backing of the banks and other financial institutions in this respect.

If looks could kill I'd be long gone!

51

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 10:23:21

43. Shiek

I dont agree , but like most SNP`s you`ll still want to be part of the EU too ..well to me that shoots your arguement down . Break up one union but stay part of another ? Why ?

52

MissYorkshire1992,

whits yon squawkin'... aw Noo Laybore budgies ... 19/05/2007 10:27:10

wee Bendy Wendy is a hoot as well as a squawk ... she will be a right good laugh ... lets bring back Monty Python's Ministry o' Silly Walks (as well as Spitting Image)

53

Sheik_mctadger,

19/05/2007 10:30:18

Easy, you would me sitting at the table yourself, not going cap in hand to Westiminster to try and get them to do it for your(Fisheries??)

54

MissYorkshire1992,

whits yon squawkin'... aw Noo Laybore budgies ... 19/05/2007 10:35:17

... ahh wonder why she nivir joined Gorgeous George doon in Londinistan furra wee bit o' "Respect" ehh???

55

Andy McH,

19/05/2007 10:37:37

# 10 Bill,
I've been here on planet earth the whole the time, but I fail to understand your question.

56

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 10:40:28

#54 Hamilton

Although I agree that the political framework for global economy does show signs of changing those countries that are already doing well in the competitiveness league will continue to do well.

The USA has always been competitive and if I remember correctly one of the comments regarding the recent competitiveness league tables put that down to the ease with which US start-ups and early stage companes can access venture and other private capital.. A change from a Republican to a Democrat US Govt won't change that.

France is different and it always makes me smile that despite it's obvious and numerous structural problems in many areas it still owns some exceptionally powerful, highly innovative and globally active companies that we would probably give our right arms to own ourselves. Alstom, Renault, Alcatel etc are all great companies of which the French are rightly proud and we'd give our right arms for.

The issue for Scotland is how we can play catch up fast enough to prevent us falling further and further behind.. The UK is 20th in that league and moving backwards not forwards so Scotland is going to be even lower. I did a rough assessment based on the criteria used and put it at roughly somewhere between 30th and 35th.

Was it a plus point that the Allander Series attracted lots of interesting people with interesting things to say? Not from Scotland's perspective. It probably made people think a little for a short time but that's all.

Scotland won't make any major progress until - and I truly hate saying this - it thinks like the Americans do. The one good thing I heard Gordon Brown say was that he was supportive of the idea of a "US style enterprise economy". Being supportive of it though is one thing... Actually making it happen is an entirely different kettle of fish.

57

MissYorkshire1992,

whits yon squawkin'... aw Noo Laybore budgies ... 19/05/2007 10:49:54

#62 ...
Republicans and Democrats across yon wee ocean are pretty much like tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee ... as in two shades o' the same insipid grey yeee-uchhy colour ... sounds familiar?
... och weel we huv wurr ane wee local version ... Noo Labore and the Libdems/ Tories

58

W Smith,

Middle East 19/05/2007 10:55:41

#62 Dick
Another good reply. Over to #54 Hamilton.

The 'league table' I believe you're talking about is here -
http://www.imd.ch/research/publications/wcy/upload/scoreb...

Its not unfair to expect Wendy to know about these competitiveness league tables - is it?

59

MissYorkshire1992,

que te vayas Uncle Tom bonita!!! 19/05/2007 11:02:43

... heeehh-reeh heeehh-reeh ...
c'moan Bendy hen ... start squawkin wummin!!
Somebody rattle yon budgie cage ... we need a wee bit o' entertainment ... I am sure Wendy will oblige!!

60

Hamilton,

19/05/2007 11:12:13

#62 Dick

"Scotland won't make any major progress until - and I truly hate saying this - it thinks like the Americans do." Wendy Alexander seemed to agree with you. In her opening remarks before the summing up lecture by Adair Turner, she said: "The spirit of the whole Series has been that Scotland could become a test bed for a unique mixture of both the American spirit of enterprise and of European solidarity."

Competitiveness league tables? They tend to reflect the competitiveness of companies, not nations. US companies are the most competitive in the league table referred to, but the US (like the UK) has become very uncompetitive with a frightening trade deficit. This is partly because US companies can easily up sticks, move to Asia, and sell to the US. Good for the companies' profitability, but bad for the American economy. Concern is now being expressed about this, not only in the US. Is this really the model to aspire to in Scotland?

61

Queen D,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 11:19:59

Wendy Alexander aside, could someone please tell me what the big deal is in asking the Scottish people a Question.For the life of me I can't understand why the referendum is causing such HooHaa.All the folk who think people voted for or against the union actually don't have the genuine answer.'More people voted for the union' Well did they? Just ask the damned QUESTION!

62

uncle joe,

Scotland 19/05/2007 11:22:45

Rabid Nats hate Wendy Shock!

Get over it - if she is so poor your boy will have no trouble and the glorious cruisade for scotland will be unhindered. Now that you have won dont you think you would be better off thinking about how to run the country (for the benefit of all of Scotland) rather than pouring vitriol on the electorate their elected representatives?

No one here is looking for a rational apraisal of her ability so I wont bother. But I'm looking forward to the sport in the months ahead. Even though there will have been some English conspiracy at play my money is on Wendy kicking John Swinney's inumerate ass up and doawn the Royal Mile.

Oh and I think Wendy was the only labour cndidate to get a swing from SNP in the election - probably just an influx of english people or a conspiracy of some kind.

63

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 11:24:25

Shiek was that in answer to my comment ??
My so that is the future for Scotland begging the EU to be put on their Foreign Aid list ???? Yep that sounds like Progress
and it was the EU and Maggie who destroyed our Fishing Industry

64

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 11:32:43

Queen D
The Scottish electorate already answered that question .
47 seats for an Independence Party
79 seats for Parties supporting the Union.
2 seats for the Fence sitters
If the Electorate wanted Independence it would be the other way round ...or is that too simple for you too grasp ...Even Alex grasp it ,

65

MissYorkshire1992,

que te vayas Uncle Tom bonita 19/05/2007 11:36:48

#69...
c'moan noo Uncle Joe ... where is yer best mate Lt. Commander Tankie Trot?
wee Bendy Wendy is a right guid laugh ... keep squawkin' hen ... sumb'dy chuck some budgie food intae yon cage ehh .. the budgies need a wee bit o' scran

66

Queen D,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 11:37:05

Please somebody out there tell me what is the big deal in asking us Scots a simole QUESTION.I really,really want to know!
I did e-mail the Lib Dems but strangely had no reply.Boy was I surprised at that!

67

MissYorkshire1992,

que te vayas Uncle Tom bonita 19/05/2007 11:42:15

that budgie cage o' Noo Laybore is gettin' awfy fu' o' mierde ... remind me tae gie it a wee clean oot later!!

68

Queen D,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 11:48:44

Hey buodica,nice moniker by the way.It may have escaped your notice but the burning Question was not asked at the election.I want to know whats the big deal in a refendum that would answer the QUESTION once ,but maybe not for all time!
Not answering questions directly seems to be a political habit

69

Bobo,

19/05/2007 12:08:15

Oh, please, please, Labour MSPs, please make Wendy your leader. If you're on the SNP side in this debate you couldn't hope for anything better, other than Margaret Curran maybe.

70

Edward,

19/05/2007 12:09:42

Interestingly Wendy Alexander sits slightly behind Jack in parliament, so when the camera is on Jack, it also shows Wendy, usually chewing on a wasp and nodding sincerly at Jacks words. Its a fixed camera position, so when the knife goes in, at least it will be caught on camera

71

Bobo,

19/05/2007 12:19:08

Possibly the best thing about WA from the nationalist point of view is that she sincerely believes that the best way to advance the Labour cause is to be nasty about Scotland. She hasn't figured out yet that while that may go down a bomb in Paisley it is increasingly the case that it doesn't wash with the rest of the country. She's in for a big shock if she ever does become Labour leader.

Could she appoint Mad McNeill as deputy. That would make it unlikely that they will ever be elected again.

72

Leith Keelie,

Herts 19/05/2007 12:22:56

*14 Leon: The Nazis shared your book burning philosophy of banning anything that they did not agree with. You may find Conan's comments distastful but remember what Voltaire said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

If anyone should be banned it should be you for your attempt to subvert freedom of speecheon

73

Leith Keelie,

Herts 19/05/2007 12:23:41

*14 Leon: The Nazis shared your book burning philosophy of banning anything that they did not agree with. You may find Conan's comments distastful but remember what Voltaire said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

If anyone should be banned it should be you for your attempt to subvert freedom of speech

74

ayrshie,

Drongan, Ayrshire 19/05/2007 12:38:06

# Duncan in Ed
#36 boudica
I have been reading these threads for a while now and must be honest when I say that the comments coming from the above mentioned partners in crime really makes one think which country they are in.
Come on the pair of you , you are good at running the SNP down and supporting the union but what we all need to know from you pair is what did the labour mafia in power at hollyrood do for the poor in both your cities. Boudica , have you been brainwashed into thinking the gorbals have gone ? new or cosmetically changed buildings but the same hungry , sick and deprived people are still living behind a lot of doors in Glasgow . The city is run down something rotten by a corrupt labour administration in power by proxy from Westminster.
Duncan , you need to open your eyes and stop believing your own drivel . One thing is certain , Alex Salmond and the SNP will give their all for Scotland and give more to Scotland and our people.
The union is dead mate , and not just on the north side of the border as the English people are sick to the back teeth of the corruption as well.
One example. the freedom of information act was voted on yesterday but MP's voted that it should not apply to them. Smacks of the Kremlin does it not.

Get real the pair of you.

75

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 12:44:18

Queen D.

We Scots are well known for not wasting money , so why waste cash on something that we already know the answer too..and as for the question not being asked if you hadnt noticed all the Press were asking it and Alex was shouting about The Indepence Referendum being his top Priorty and if Scottish Electorate agreed with him , he would have had the landslide he predicted , and he would have shut the Borders and Crowned himself but he didnt get that it was a clear No !!!! and Alex did a quick turn around as he did over the " Party Donations " as he shouted it should be limited to £50.000 but as soon as his Pal from RSB offered them £ 500.000 he just about snatched the Guys arm off along with the cash . He has shot himself in the 2 in the foot before he got the FM job ..that doesnt bode well for his future does it ...

76

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 12:56:37

#67 Hamilton

Sure.. Wendy would appear on the face of it to support the idea of a proper US style enterprise economy. Unfortunately though what growth there was in Scotland during Labour's period in power was mainly in the public not private sector.

No - "offshoring" is not my ideal model but I have a feeling this is beginning to run out of steam anyway. Quite a lot of the recent increase in inflation was due to the increase in prices of supposedly cheap imports and I noted a few months ago that even the Chinese are shifting some manufacturing to N Africa somewhere because it's actually cheaper.

On the other hand whilst the USA, Germany and others still have a large scale manufacturing sector we don't. So whilst others could repatriate manufacturing if they chose to we do so little now that it wouldn't make a lot of difference. Our economy is very much out of balance.

77

Hamilton,

19/05/2007 13:33:57

#82 Dick

I'd agree the political Executive didn't share the key views expressed by international economists at the Allander lectures. Political opposition to competitiveness, including value for money in the public sector, is intense.

On the other hand some governments around the world (especially the US and the UK) hugely support the international private sector by incurring huge trade and budgets deficits that their national taxpayers will be burdened with in the future.

There's unlikely to be a change in this dire situation while the international rules remain the same.

78

Queen D,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 13:54:00

The elephant is still in the room,Boudica!
Ask the damned Question and then we cannot argue, and ,in politcian speak we can 'move on' or 'draw a line under it'

79

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 14:43:21

Queen D ...
The Elephant has left the Building .....hehe ...

80

Queen D,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 15:42:25

Oh no it hasn't,it's behind you!
Seriously,it is only a question , timed,according to the SNP, for sometime in 2010.They have already said that they wish to prove themselves to the Scottish people first .I can see nothing wrong with that an'd it is only a question.The answer could be an 'aye or a 'naw,' but it would then have to go to Westminster and it would probably be given it a great big 'naw'.
I still don't see the harm in asking!

81

Burnes,

Oregon, USA 19/05/2007 16:30:16

This was an interesting article since Jack says basically that although... "we disagree strongly with Alex Salmond's decision to create a guddle of cabinet responsibilities, Labour will form an effective opposition by shadowing each minister directly..."

The emphasis seems to be on shadowing each minister directly. Most of the posts seem to be directed at Wendy...I realize this was the article headline but other shadow ministers are mentioned.

"I am particularly pleased to welcome Wendy Alexander and Iain Gray back to frontline politics, and to promote Pauline McNeill, Ken MacIntosh and Paul Martin, who will use their parliamentary skills to very good effect in holding the new government accountable."

He described the new front bench team as "able, experienced and committed to building a better Scotland". "

Although education and experience are both important considerations when selecting someone for a position, these days there is a lot of emphasis placed on credentials, especially those of women who seek positions of power. Perhaps that is the reason they are mentioned in the article.

What struck me as the most important comment in the article was when Jack said,

"We will oppose Nationalist plans which would damage Scotland, but we will also seek to work with the new government, and others, where we can agree measures which will build up Scotland," he said. "

This seems significant to me (words strung together can have many different meanings) because my read on his remarks is that he basically says that Labour will only oppose those Nationalist plans which he believes would damage Scotland...He also says that he will work with the new SNP government and the other parties on issues and measures they agree on for the betterment of Scotland....

That is my take or interpretation anyway. Since Wendy is only a Shadow Minister and it is the dawning of a new day in the

82

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 16:59:45

#88 Burnes

Why not give give Wendy, Jack, Labour, and all of the other parties a chance to make a fresh start???

Labour had two fresh starts and failed completely to achieve anything of substance apart from banning smoking in public places and hunting foxes.

83

Pollock Bain,

Kinross 19/05/2007 17:04:13

Has anybody apart from me been embarrassed by the amount of woman-hating bile there seems to be on these posts? And why is a victorious party too small minded to be magnanimous in its triumph? Let's support our new government to achieve things for the people of Scotland, adn if Labour or the Lib Dems or the Greens want to help, great.

84

ayrshie,

Drongan,Ayrshire 19/05/2007 18:15:12

#36 boudica
Duncan in E.

I have been watching these threads for weeks and and have came to the conclusion that you are both looking at a different political situation. Time after time you both spout your vile crap against the SNP and now I think the people on these boards are entitled to some factual information regarding the labour mafia that Scotland just kicked out.
For a start "boudica" we were all lead to believe that the gorbals in glasgow had gone but if you open your eyes you will see that thousands of families are living in squalor , in ill health and in poverty and you have the nerve to try and justify what labour have done since 1999. Well go for it , tell us what labout have done to improve the living standards or living conditions in Scotland.
They are too busy lining their own pockets to care about the real people in Scotland.
As for our Duncan, I think you just open your mouth and let yer belly rumble mate. Independence is coming and people on both sides of the border want it . Everyone is sick to the back teeth with the corruption the labour party stands for.
Yesterday on the vote on the freedom of information act they voted to apply it to everyone "except them" An astonishing example of Westminster democracy.

Wake up or sober up !!

85

MissYorkshire1992,

adios Uncle Tom ... tu eres tonto!! 19/05/2007 18:27:26

#77 ... pretty significant choice o' words ... WASP!!
Wee Bendy Wendy is a right guid laugh ... can she get a whole nest o' wasps inside her mooth though?

Lets face when Gordie Broon the 'wally dug' gets papped oot oan his ear a la Iain Duncan-Smith ... he will get yon new job as the wee dug in the Churchill Insurance commercial ehhh? ... Ohhhh YESSS! ... Bendy Wendy will huv loadsa wasps in her mooth!!

Nae luck Gordie
... still serves him right the big feartie ... who widnae even face an election ... by his ane Laybore Pairty ...!
Shut the door ... oan yer waye oot Gordie ... cheeers pal!

86

Burnes,

Oregon, USA 19/05/2007 18:50:05

#89 Dick...did not mean a fresh start in regard to Labour being in charge but more like the post of #90 Pollock Bain..."And why is a victorious party too small minded to be magnanimous in its triumph? Let's support our new government to achieve things for the people of Scotland, adn if Labour or the Lib Dems or the Greens want to help, great." that's the kind of fresh start I meant...

Personally think the English union Fox Hunt is anything but sporting - it is a shameful and deplorable practice. I also totally support the SNP and an English royalty union free Independence for Scotland.

87

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 19:39:45

89. Dick
You forgot Free care for the Elderly ,
Winter Fuel Payments,
Student fee`s
Free Travel for the Elderly
90. I agree but then again they are landed with Sturgeon who resembles a Rottwieler ( A toothless one at that )..hehe ..sorry couldnt resist it ..

88

Chef,

19/05/2007 20:05:14

Read post 16

David from Barra is the troll

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=768502007

89

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 20:29:19

# 93 boudica...

Spending more money is easy....anyone can do that. However, growing the economy to be able to pay for all that and more was beyond Labour's intellectual capacity.

Hence on a UK scale Labour's major achievements also include a record balance of payments deficit, record household debt, higher interest rates than the rest of the EU, only 20th in the global competitiveness league table, record house prices, record number of tax increases and so on and so forth..

#92 Burnes....

Ok - I see what you mean now..

90

Richard Lionheart,

19/05/2007 20:51:13

On a positive note for Scotland, they are in opposition!

So Iain Gray can't build anymore "flagship" rail stations with no Toilets and NO trains!

Wendy can't be responsible for the loss of more jobs! Well???

91

Chef,

19/05/2007 21:18:46

Hows this for a comment re equality post 11

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=53&id=370792007

92

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 21:30:03

Dick .. So the pound being theb strongest currency goes for nothing ??? and as for household debt being high ..that is down to the individual living beyond their means ..not the government and as for house prices... well they are off the wall ..we are the only country in europe who buy their houses at the rate we do ..as most just rent...and buying to let should be halted now

93

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 21:50:27

#98

The strong pound is a major disadvantage to exporters and encourages imports. So strategically it's a bummer..

Household debt may well be down to the individual but individuals are influenced by Govt policy. So whilst Brown did nothing to curb spending and indeed was doing a lot of it himself then individuals thought it was OK.. He didn't tell the banks to behave more responsibly for fear of upsetting his chums in the City..

House prices? Yes of course they're way too high but whose fault is it? The banks/bldg societies deliberately lent people as much money as they could.. Sometimes as much as 4x or 5x times people's salaries... Did Brown tell them to cool it? No he didn't.. Again, he was worried about upsetting his chums in the City.

Oh and deliberately and very callously removed house price inflation from the calculations the BoE uses to determine interest rate levels.. If he hadn't we'd probably have seen interest rates much higher much earlier to kill off the house price boom in its infancy.

94

boudica,

Glasgow 19/05/2007 22:21:33

I agree the banks were are too ready to hand out cash..but as for the individuals I feel it still isnt the govs fault ...I think today it is more a way of thinking among the young..the days of saving up to get what you want are gone ..they all want it now ..the me me syndrome .. and Parents not teaching the kids how to stand on their own two feet.

95

The Strategist,

19/05/2007 23:29:35

#100 boudica

I don't disagree but it's up to Govt to set the rules. The fact that they effectively set them in favour of the City by not intervening when they should have speaks volumes about how Brown thinks.

96

Gregorf,

20/05/2007 10:29:05

I find Wendy Alexander frightening.

Her and her Labour mates are responsible for Scotland having more state employees than private sector ones,

Overseeing the unhealthiest country in the EU,

The highest incidence of child poverty in the EU,

We all die quicker than anyone else in the EU and

Are more likely to be a victim of violent crime than anywhere else in the developed world.

The last person you want anywhere near an economy is a freak who helped deliver the above social recession and who wants to continue sub contracting out the economy to London. We are dying young although we have been solely supplying the second largest consumer of oil in the planet

That's London who historically taken more from wherever they have traded than given back. Just look at how we have to positively discriminate to get Scottish people into Edinburgh University. War anyone?


 

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