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Published Date: 24 June 2009
A HIGHER target for cutting greenhouse gas emissions was unanimously backed by MSPs today.
Politicians from all parties agreed that legislation to tackle climate change should set a target of reducing emissions by 42% by 2020 – up from 34%.

But a Green Party attempt to include a 90% target for 2050 – instead of 80% – was overwhelmingly
rejected.

Earlier this week the Scottish Government announced it will include the 42% target in the Climate Change (Scotland) Bill.

And as MSPs debated the legislation for the final time today, Climate Change Minister Stewart Stevenson said: "The decisions we make here will shape the Bill and shape the future of Scotland.

"That is why decisions on targets must be taken by politicians based on expert advice."

Labour's environment spokeswoman Sarah Boyack said: "The science says we've got to be more ambitious.

"We have been consistent that a tougher target at the interim level will be challenging but we need that tougher target now to drive the change we need in the early years.

"It's vital that the Government's commitment is not a heat-of-the-moment commitment just to get the Government through today's debate.
"It's got to be followed by radical action in the weeks and months following this Bill."

Mr Stevenson pointed out that the changes to the legislation included the power to revise the target.

He told Holyrood the amendment, which had been put forward by Ms Boyack and which was unanimously agreed, established "for the first time the ability to reduce a target in the Bill based on expert advice".

But that "power should be very carefully regulated and controlled", he said.

"Let me therefore confirm now that this Government will not use any powers to vary the 2020 target to introduce a figure that is lower than expert advice.

"Let me make the commitment now that this Government will not use these powers beyond a single occasion.

"Let me make the commitment now that this Government will not use the powers at all if the EU raises its target for 2020 to at least 30%."

But Green MSP Patrick Harvie said the amendment on the 42% target contained a number of "loopholes" and "get-out clauses".

But he conceded: "This amendment is the best that we are going to get, even if we need better."

Liberal Democrat climate change spokeswoman Alison McInnes said: "The greater the early action we take the better chance we have in limiting damaging climate change.


"This is the cut the evidence said is needed."

And while it may "be difficult to get there", the Lib Dem told MSPs, "we must make the effort to try."

Former First Minister Jack McConnell said including "ambitious" targets in the legislation was important.

The Labour MSP said: "In this area, perhaps above all others, the setting of ambitious targets forces those in the industry, forces those in public authority, forces experts to look to how those targets can indeed be met."

Therefore the targets can "shape behaviour and effect change".

Mr McConnell continued: "I believe that we – by setting ambitious targets here today – set out our stall as a Parliament.

"I believe those across Scotland and elsewhere will follow us if we give that lead. Today we should set a lead for Scotland."

Lib Dem and Green Party attempts to strengthen the Bill by setting annual targets for emissions cuts between 3% and 4.5% were also rejected by MSPs.

Mr Harvie said changes to the headline figure meant annual targets "must automatically follow".

"We have supported a steeper trajectory, a more ambitious trajectory. We will fail to meet that trajectory unless we also improve the annual targets," he said.

But Mr Stevenson said: "I wholeheartedly agree that we need to build towards achieving that level of annual reduction as soon as possible but we cannot make that happen overnight."

Mr Harvie had lodged an amendment to increase the 2050 target from 80% to 90% but this was defeated by two votes to 119.

A bigger cut in emissions is necessary, he said, telling MSPs that the science had moved on from the suggestion that an 80% reduction in carbon pollution by 2050 is sufficient.

"If we are going to include specific targets in this bill, they should be the right targets, not the wrong targets.

"Those who have studied the subject in detail understand now that 80% is a target which is already out of date."

However Mr Stevenson said it would be premature to move away from the 80% target, "which is of course a minimum requirement".



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  • Last Updated: 24 June 2009 12:31 PM
  • Source: scotsman.com
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Climate change
 
1

Unimpressed one,

24/06/2009 12:54:40
"Mr Harvie had lodged an amendment to increase the 2050 target from 80% to 90% but this was defeated by two votes to 119."

Here's a suggestion Harvie. You reduce your 'carbon' by 90% for a year then come back and tell us all how lovely it was. Then maybe some of your green beardie pals will follow suit whilst the rest of us get on with life as normal.

2

Unimpressed one,

24/06/2009 13:53:31
But that "power should be very carefully regulated and controlled"

WTF are the implications of this statement? This can only mean one thing - power rationing.

Fast forward to the year 2020. Businesses will be told they can trade carbon credits to survive and so push up their costs, which they will attempt to recover from their customers. Profits will fall and these businesses will be faced with a stark choice: becoming uncompetitive or relocating to sane countries such as India and China. Meanwhile individuals will be issued with ration cards so increasing their costs and reducing their choices. Travel, power and employment will all nose dive. At this point the numpties at Holyrood will decide they need to introduce a tartan carbon tax across the board in order to meet their loony targets and, hey presto, Scotland will be on the world stage being promoted as an economic basket case. Voters, out of sheer disgust, will vote in unionist parties and the SNP can kiss independence good-bye.
3

El Franko,

24/06/2009 13:58:30
The current warming scare is not the first. In the 20th century alone, there have been 2 cooling scares and 1 other warming scare. In all 4 cases, they were hyped by the media.

Our misfortune is that this time they have been hyped up by politicians, subjected it must be noted, to a sophisticated and expensive propaganda drive by the IPCC and sundry political groups who detest humanity.

An illustrated summary of the past scares is given here: http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp

It is as if a collective slump in intelligence and backbone has occurred in our times.
4

person who's right,

Edinburgh 24/06/2009 14:00:03
Calm down Unimpressed One, he means the power to change the target. Not power as in electricity.

Also, I don't think this should be seen as a wholly SNP initiative - most of it's been voted through unanimously, even by the Tories...

Personally I think it's great. A proud day for Scotland and democracy. Scotland doing what's necessary and hopefully the rest of the world will do the same.
5

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 24/06/2009 14:11:43
A reduction of 42% in CO2 emissions by 2020 is insane. The damage to Scotland's economy would be huge.

Aside from being sceptical about the whole anthropogenic global warming hypothesis, I am curious what the reduction is relative to and how it will be monitored.

"But Green MSP Patrick Harvie said the amendment on the 42% target contained a number of "loopholes" and "get-out clauses"."

Well, thank goodness for that! We will need a few "get-out clauses" when it dawns on the politicians that they have fallen victim to the biggest scam in the history of mankind.
6

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 24/06/2009 14:49:31
Notice that the enthusiasm for "reducing carbon emissions" seems to be mainly from politicians, green people of all descriptions and for some bizarre reason WWF. Not one of them has what could be described as a real job and given the constraints they would like to place on the rest of us are trying to make economic activity as difficult as possible based on loopy science and bampots on a mission. Including politicians, SNP too, who are mainly interested in tax-generating potential.

A cut of 42% by 2020 is frankly insane. I agree with #1 Unimpressed One that Harvie and the brown bread and sandals brigade should get right down to it and cut their carbon usage immediately by 90% and report back how fine it was. Unlikely I would have thought and elsewhere it is reported that Prince Charles, that upstanding and respected advocate of Climate Change has upped his biudget by 50% to pay for, yes you guessed, banging UP his carbon consumption annually by about 30+%!!! This was for the Far East and South American holiday, sorry, lecture tours to dribble on about Amazonian rain forests. And the result was? Well we'll all still be waiting around for that one.

Just as well the is a get-out clause to lower the target because it won't take long to figure that instead of warming things are getting cooler and that sea levels are not changing significantly. So once the faddy nonsense is over there will be a quiet attempt to bury this tosh once and for all - until the next fad. The phrase "away and work" comes to mind about these guys.
7

Unimpressed one,

24/06/2009 17:07:29
I thought the inept McConnell was put out to grass doing some teaching job in Malawi where he could do no further damage. What the hell is he doing back in Holyrood? Let me guess, his 'expert' input is needed in the debate?
8

Unimpressed one,

24/06/2009 17:11:41
#3, "It is as if a collective slump in intelligence and backbone has occurred in our times."

It's worse than that. If you were to get rid of the unproductive teat-suckers 'employed' to advise and legislate, unemployment in this country would jump to 20% overnight.
9

Scary Bear,

24/06/2009 17:43:37
As long as the politicians back up this initiative with cold hard cash, then I'm all for it.

In 2005 there were 2.27 million households in Scotland.

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/press/news2005/drop-in-number-of-vacant-dwellings-and-second-homes-in-scotland.html

If each of these houses has 1kW of lighting, which is more than likely (some kitchens and living rooms have approx. 10-15 50 Watt dichroic lamps in them.) then the total domestic lighting load is 2.27 Gigawatts. Add the commercial lighting load in and it's probably at least double that. So being conservative the lighting load is 5 Gigawatts. There are energy saving lamps for most purposes and if they were used, power consumption could be greatly reduced.

How many power stations would no longer be required if all lighting which could be, was changed to energy efficient alternatives?

10

Fletty73,

Stirling 24/06/2009 17:46:37
There is no arguing with these green dunder heeds.

Best just let them get on with it for the now, then rub their stupid noses in it 20 years from now when fe*k all warming has occured.
11

Scary Bear,

24/06/2009 17:51:20
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2008-03-05b.1727.3

In 2008 there was evidently 10.5 Gigawatts of electricity generation capacity in Scotland.

Anyway, a lot of electricity could be saved if people changed lamp types and added temperature/presence/timeclock controls to various electrical equipment.
12

Scary Bear,

24/06/2009 17:57:16
#10 - Ignoring the climate change issue, saving energy saves money (in the short term). So it makes sense for everyone.

I've no doubt the privately owned utilities companies will ramp utility bills up anyway in the long term due to falling revenues, as a result of people being more energy efficient. However, a good thing about saving energy is less power stations are required.
13

redcliffe62,

27/06/2009 01:26:27
most of the emissions seem to come from the backsides of cows. so how long before the do gooders say that cows need bags attached to their backsides to catch their own farts and the gases produced locked up for industrrial use.
if there were no cows would there be any global warming? no.
so the solution without spending 60 billion is we all stop eating meat. except i love a steak so they can naff off.

 

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