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Published Date: 14 November 2009
A MAJOR inquiry into council funding is to be launched by MSPs in an attempt to hold the education secretary to account for financial cuts to schools across Scotland.
The announcement comes days after Fiona Hyslop was pilloried for blaming councils, the recession and the political system for her party's failure to deliver on election pledges.

Members of the Scottish Parliament's education committee have grown
impatient with Ms Hyslop repeatedly blaming councils for the lack of progress on reducing class sizes, failure to maintain teacher numbers and soaring numbers of trained teachers unable to find jobs.

Before Christmas the committee will begin a "substantial" investigation to track how money from central government is spent by councils.

Senior education figures, including council chief executives, directors of education and social work and teachers' leaders, are expected to be brought before the committee for questioning.

A key issue will be the potential for setting up a body tasked with scrutinising how well funding is spent through the concordat arrangement.

Labour schools spokesman Ken Macintosh said: "We just want to find a way of following the money and hold the education secretary to account for the decisions she has made.

"We are going to work with local authorities to try and make the system more accountable, because at the moment she (Fiona Hyslop] can pretty well say it is not my doing – it is the councils."

Earlier this week Ms Hyslop was accused of dodging responsibility and Conservative leader Annabel Goldie demanded that Alex Salmond replace her.

Several of the government's election pledges have not been met, including increasing nursery entitlement to three and four-year-olds by 50 per cent and maintaining teacher numbers.

Conservative schools spokeswoman Liz Smith said: "We have found it very difficult to find out how the money is spent. If local government is getting taxpayers' money, what ways do we have of checking how that's spent? This is a wider issue – this concerns how Holyrood works and there are moves among other committees to look at this."

A spokesman for Scotland's biggest teaching union, the EIS, said:

"The concordat has allowed the Scottish Government and local authorities to blame each other for the non-delivery of key education promises."

John Stodter, general secretary of the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland, acknowledged problems with the current system and welcomed the inquiry.

He said: "We do lack reliable and robust benchmarking and comparative data on costs."

However, a spokesman for local authorities denied the removal of ring-fencing had affected scrutiny of council spending and defended their record on investment in schools.

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said it had provided local authorities with increased funding of £35 billion for 2008-11 and said education spend by councils was expected to be 4.1 per cent higher for 2009-10 than the previous year.

Concordat could be history

TRACKING the money has wider implications than finding out why cash isn't reaching cash-strapped schools.

The results could redefine the funding of public services in Scotland. The current concordat system, described as "historic" by the Scottish Government, changed the way taxpayers' money is spent by councils.

The system freed them from the constraints of ring-fencing. In the deal, local authorities froze council tax in return for agreeing to work towards central government priorities such as reducing class sizes and maintaining teacher numbers.

However, that agreement has already been broken by several councils. However, no sanctions have been taken other than education secretary Fiona Hyslop registering disappointment.

Words will not be enough to bring councils into line but if robust action is taken the government fears it could end up with a Mexican stand-off with local authorities over the issue.

If the parliament's education committee has its way then a special scrutiny body could be set up to ensure funding allocated by government to councils for specific purpose goes where it is meant.

However, this will curtail the freedom of councils to dictate their own spending and therefore render the "historic concordat" history.




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  • Last Updated: 13 November 2009 11:43 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Group Captain Lionel Mandrake,

13/11/2009 22:27:34

The "historic concordat" is basically a hastily-thought up, post-election, non-manifesto wheeze to allow the Nats to pin the blame for any delivery failures on councils, not them.

As with SFT, LIT, and Forth Bridge funding, it is all unravelling.

They never thought their manifesto through, and in parts it consists of outright lies.

I suspect they never expected to be in power in 2007.
2

JaF,

14/11/2009 00:08:18
#1, Mandy, great comment.
3

Warden Resurrected,

The Nationalist Republic of Scotoma 14/11/2009 00:45:45
Fiona (Calamity Jane) Hyslop needs to be educated herself in almost everything she has touched. She has got so much wrong now she is starting to look as she’s been doing it on purpose. Yes right!
She has done such a poor job at (what is she meant to be doing), oh yes education, she is starting to make the rest of the party look competent.
4

Anna nexr door,

14/11/2009 01:28:19
And what did Labour do for education in the time they were in power?
Shes doing quite a good job considering the anti Scottish/SNP agenda Westminster has.
5

Fifi la Bonbon,

14/11/2009 01:52:52
#4 - the short answer is lots of new schools and increased attainment.

Seriously, people are very harsh about Ms Hyslop and I'm sure its not deserved. But there are malign forces and hard faced men standing behind her, and if she could get up the courage to face them down and just speak the truth she's be more respected. I'll never forget seeing her in the parliament chamber near to tears a few weeks ago while Mister Salmond blustered some nonsense. If she was to hold her hands up say what the truth is, and ask for the parliament's support to improve things. they couldn't touch her.
6

Warden Resurrected,

The Nationalist Republic of Scotoma 14/11/2009 01:54:38
Anna nexr door
4-Ah the eternal excuse for incompetence, they do bad minus we do bad equals no bad at all.
7

Warden Resurrected,

The Nationalist Republic of Scotoma 14/11/2009 02:06:05
Fifi la Bonbon
5-My favourite was the announcement of those new schools the other week because of the bad conditions of the schools at present, 2017/8. Incompetence has reached a new level. What is even more incredible is the expectations of the SNP who see themselves either to be still in the Union in nine years time or still unable to get schools built after a number of years independent.
8

Hobbe,

14/11/2009 02:08:35
Really worrying stuff I am sure as the few unionist desperados have followed the hootsmon by seemingly not needing an enquiry to gain their weird conclusions anyway.

Labour tories and libdems don't have the answers, and two of them were in government in Scotland for 8 years before the historic 2007 election.

The concordat is being shafted by labour cuts in westminster, (due to Labour's economic mismanagement) and any half decent article would reflect that truth so best try an English newspaper.

9

Hobbe,

14/11/2009 02:10:54
How much undisclosed debt is Scotland in with PFI projects for schools currently that were embraced by Labour, and for how long will these debts take to clear via the taxpayer now and my grandkids no doubt?

Longer than the life of the schools or less?
10

Hobbe,

14/11/2009 02:15:53
£ Multi Billions.

PFI debt courtesy of Labour.

How much and for how long will Scotland be in debt to PFI, that disgraced HP form of procurement that affects our taxes so detrimentally never mind a Labour inspired recession?

Let'a hear a boastful figure from a die hard unionist on Scotland's PFI debt in pounds. and work out our taxes with or without a recession on board to boot.

Though we are in a recession so PFI debt undoubtedly affects us much worse as a result.
11

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 14/11/2009 02:18:45
In this motorised age, it's perfectly possible to fund all Council Services from a regional, in effect national, income tax and standard commercial borrowing. I hold that we should go down the full Confoederatio Helvetica road. Then Scotland would run like a Swiss electronic watch! Sending money to Whitehall is as daft as flinging't into the North Sea.

And we want Service! 80% of overpaid, over-rated CEOs must be immediately AXED. Murdo fae Durness has sharpened my small chopper and we have the big one ex trawling days berthed in Strathrusdale. And the big hammer with it, perhaps once weilded by Eric the Rude himself, and still banging in stobs.
12

Hobbe,

14/11/2009 02:31:50
YOK,The Swiss federation is a method of regional government only an Independent Scotland or a real federal uk could adopt.

We will need to hammer a few bolts to even begin to talk federalism when there is no mention of the word even by the federalist Libdems who preferred to be shafted by Calman.

That leaves Independence as far as your preferred method of council funding is concerned.
13

Handsome Scotsman,

14/11/2009 04:06:31
I smell a vendetta.

Her perceived crime is to still be in office despite repeated attempts by Labour to say and boast they have been able to claim an SNP scalp.

Be honest with yourself, she has done nothing wrong.

Don't be surprised if Grays next accusation is of sorcery and witchcraft
14

Anna nexr door,

14/11/2009 05:31:55
5 & 6, I disagree.
15

steve 1511,

aberdeen 14/11/2009 05:41:59
this is a good plan we will find out why the labour glasgow council got money to reduce class sizes has not been spent on reducing class sizes,talk about shooting yourself in the foot,only labour could come up with this
16

Dùn Èideann Bully Wee,

14/11/2009 06:53:45
“A MAJOR inquiry into council funding is to be launched by MSPs in an attempt to hold the education secretary to account for financial cuts to schools across Scotland.

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said it had provided local authorities with increased funding of £35 billion for 2008-11 and said education spend by councils was expected to be 4.1 per cent higher for 2009-10 than the previous year.”

This being the case, what “cuts “are being referred to?

Those introduced by Labour controlled local authorities?
17

fife runner,

14/11/2009 08:17:29
free personal care, free bus travel for over 60's (of which I will soon be one , free school meals, no tuition fees. It all had to come to a sudden halt sometime. although all parties to balem over time form this one.
18

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 14/11/2009 08:25:37
Alex needs this money to keep him in the belly to which he has become accustomed.
19

Spannerstherevengein3D,

14/11/2009 08:37:04
And yet another going nowhere enquiry which will rightly exonorate Fiona and cost the taxpayer 1000s just for a bit of propaganda headline.
Gaud bless the union and let corruption reign.
20

Spannerstherevengein3D,

14/11/2009 08:39:34
And the reason Lyebour never made this effort to track public funding while they were in power is what again?
Is the UK government going to follow suite in England and Wales?
21

John N Sutherland,

Skelmorlie 14/11/2009 08:48:42
Quite probably the same thing has happened as at colleges and universities: a huge increase in admin jonnies and a reduction of teaching staff to part-time and hourly-paid. There is a need for a huge investigation of the move of money from professional front-line staff to administration by the entire public sector.
22

Baggy Troosers,

14/11/2009 09:08:18
It must of took you a while to think that one up,better luck next time.
23

Baggy Troosers,

14/11/2009 09:09:29
#22 meant for #18 the comedian
24

Gdgy,

14/11/2009 09:12:48
Hey SNPites, it is difficult being on power, you have to plan and do stuff....I believe the operative phrase is "deliver"....
Now you have a record you have to be able to justify your actions.....AND the SNP never even attempted to fulfil their promises on class sizes
Hyslop is toast and if she goes, they promised all to go......
25

The Tin Man,

14/11/2009 09:14:21
Will someone please get rid of Fiona Hyslop.
26

noswod,

honestas 14/11/2009 09:43:15
SNP - still no policies for the regeneration of Scottish eductaion. Policy moves from one policy gimmick to the next. Class sizes are all very well but it is the teaching and school culture which is the key to performance. Although Labour did not do much better giving teachers the 4.5 day week and massive pay raises - 5 years later theres not much evidence of the reinissence of eductation standards and improvement in the preparation for life and work of our children. The problem with Scottish education is that it has become introverted and self seeking controlled by the providers, the teaching unions and has forgotten its what its objective is to educate our children and to prepared them for life. The SNP merely looks for opportunities so it can try and buy votes for an isolationist, declining state long term intergenerational investments and policies are beyond it. If Scotland wants to become like Sweden, Norway etc it has to adopt policies to reduce consumption and increase the kinds of investment that will change its economony and Society. Even simple no brainers like railway lines to airports and keeping mass murderers in jail are beyond it.
27

letmeout,

paisley 14/11/2009 09:48:04
#26 The problem with the SNP is the fact they are too honest. Not like the scum of the lie bour in glasgow.

The butcher broon is holding millions from the Scottish Government, is it any wonder they have to cut.
28

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 14/11/2009 09:52:10
I've had professional dealings with Hyslop - an unpleasant, vindictive creature who tries to mask her failure to grasp the subject she's pontificating about with bullying and bluster. Nice to see her getting some of her own back!
29

Gdgy,

14/11/2009 09:52:40
#27 - really!!
The party that lied about class sizes, police numbers etc is too honest??? Or just dim?
And the SNP failure in Glasgow ws due to lack of relevant policies and ideas...all Labour did was expose policies that seem to have done Glasgow down...it should have been a dawdle and politically advantageous to expose these as lies....so why didn't they????
Incapable or just running out of steam....?
30

CoI Blimp Vl,

14/11/2009 12:04:36
A fairly obvious solution to this mystery, would be Independence or full Fiscal Autonomy for the faint of heart.

Responsibility lies with the people who select the people who set the budgets and make the rules...YOU, ME, HIM and HER!

Westminster sets the budget and makes the rules that the Scottish Parliament operates under...hence the PFI v NFPT v economic borrowing debacle which will be at the heart of all Local/Regional and National Governmental financial disputes from now and when hell freezes over.

Unless we take responsibility for the governance of our own country.
31

Spannerstherevengein3D,

14/11/2009 12:25:01
28

Why would Fiona H pontificate with a professional cyber troll? why would anybody?
32

Linda,

Edinburgh 14/11/2009 12:56:02
Local authority education budgets have increased by an average of 8.3% or £366 million between 2008 and 2010 under the SNP Government; and the figures for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 financial years also show that the average increase is higher in SNP led councils.

This contrasts with Labour’s largest council in Glasgow which – like their counterparts south of the border - is cutting spending on education (in this case by £7 million).

The figures show provisional out turn spending for the last financial year and expected spend for the current financial year. These show:

• From 2008 -2010 spending on education in Scotland will have increased by £366 million or 8.3%

• Spending in 2008-09 increased by 5.5% and is expected to increase by at least 2.6 % in 2009 -10

• SNP led councils show the highest average increase with an average 10.2% increase over two years – compared with an 8.8% increase in Labour led councils.

• Glasgow plans to cut spending by £7 million next year

3. Over two years the eight continuously SNP-led councils are increasing spending by an average of 10.2%. This compares with 8.8% by the ten Labour-led councils.

4. (SNP Councils from 2008 to now - Perthshire & Kinross, East Ayrshire, East Lothian, West Lothian, Fife, Stirling, West Dunbartonshire, Renfrewshire),

(Labour Councils from 2008 to now - East Renfrewshire, East Dunbartonshire, Falkirk, Clacks, South Lanarkshire, Inverclyde, North Ayrshire. North Lanarkshire, Midlothian, Glasgow.)
33

veritas1,

clacks 14/11/2009 14:50:11
The unionists may well regret the day they came up with this idea!

BTW, if anybody wants a good hard look at how money is handled by labour controlled councils they should take a look at the way my local council, Clackmannanshire Council, mishandles things, they have gone from writing off £7,000,000 of debts one week to admitting to a £9,000,000 black hole in finances the next.

They have even gone so far as to have their books checked by another council and are trying to tell us it's normal, and guess what department they think the biggest mistake lies in..........that's right education.

Happy days.

34

Warden Resurrected,

The Nationalist Republic of Scotoma 14/11/2009 15:05:38
veritas1
33-You think you’ve got problems, this Scottish Government knowing of priorities when coming into Government knew they could’ve vetoed the Edinburgh tram scheme because of the need for financing a new Forth crossing, and ended up allowing the trams to go ahead with billions to look for for the bridge. Ironically this Scottish Government realised the other month there were alternative ways they could’ve budgeted.
35

mr broon,

Edinburgh 14/11/2009 15:54:34
It is ironic that at a time when this Scottish Government has provided local councils with more than sufficient extra funding for various services, including a move towards smaller primary class sizes, the vast majority chose to renage on the agreement, and squander the capital on other things.

The Nationalist Government has also not made enough of its policy to freeze Council Tax for the past 2 years, and possibly a third .

Despite this, greedy Councils, especially Labour controlled, claimed that they still had not received enough funding?

In Glasgow North-East, freezing Council Tax meant nothing to the vast majority of the deprived constituents, who for various reasons, either do not pay Council Tax, or pay a subsidised rate.

The City of Edinburgh Council recently claimed that, after the damaging 4 month work to rule by its Cleansing Department employees, it was examining ways of privatising this service?

Very shortly, more and more Scottish councils will be looking into ways of divesting themselves of services like cleansing, which could quite easily be dealt with by private waste management contractors, to enable them to concentrate on core council duties.

It is also time for the Scottish Government to consider legislating for a further amalgamation of Scottish Councils to cut numbers(and power)and save taxpayers from inflated Council Tax rates.

36

Gdgy,

14/11/2009 17:18:21
you can always tell when the SNpites are losing the argument - they start to cut n paste from their publicity or the SNP blogs...
It comes down to this...
The SNP promised big and didn't deliver.
NOW they have a record of non-delivery that THEY have to defend (without blaming some "unionist" big boy who did it and ran away). They now have a record of being less than truthful.....
So why should we believe them when they say that independence is such a great option???
Remember the SNP have to convince non-SNP supporters..just like in Glasgow...
37

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 14/11/2009 17:47:32
It's quite enjoyable watching the SNP fall apart. They grasped their way to power on the back of lies and broken promises and only a certifiable idiot would bet on there being an SNP First Minister after the next Scottish election.
38

LEAL,

14/11/2009 18:22:06
Fiona Hyslop is doing a first class job.This SNP government has done more for the people of Scotland than the English based parties ever did.Thats why they are supported by the Scottish people.
Other countries of a similair size as Scotland enjoy a far higher standard of living than London ruled Scotland is allowed.
I think the Scots are well capable of governing themselves.Some People think the Scots are too stupid to govern themselves,but their numbers are dwindling.Despite the efforts of this newspaper.
39

Hugo of Garven,

14/11/2009 19:53:00
#34
"33-You think you’ve got problems, this Scottish Government knowing of priorities when coming into Government knew they could’ve vetoed the Edinburgh tram scheme because of the need for financing a new Forth crossing, and ended up allowing the trams to go ahead with billions to look for for the bridge."

If I remember correctly, the SNP minority Government opposed the trams but the majority in the Scottish Parliament supported the scheme.

The SNP Government, correctly in my view, did not stand on technicalities but consented to the majority view.

Are you saying they were wrong?


40

Miss H,

14/11/2009 19:56:43
Good. Glasgow City Council will be in the dock for diverting cash for education into other areas.

Then we will see who is ripping off Glasgow.
41

Observer,,

Glasgow 14/11/2009 20:51:16
You really have to wonder how stupid the Labour Group in the Scottish Parliament are.

This will put them directly at loggerheads - once again - with their Councillors.

They appear desperate to land a blow on SNP Ministers regardless of the cost to themselves.

We have already seen one punch up between the two factions, are we going to see more?

42

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 15/11/2009 14:42:13
#39 - Come on Hugo, the public won't buy that rubbish.

SNP pledged to get rid of trams, voted against knowing would get passed by majority, postured then renaged on elction promise to scrapm when they gladly rubber stamped, looking for the investment.

Hiding behind other parties when SNP did not have courage of convictions is not right. I and many in city centre voted SNP for 1st and (after being conned) last time, and will not forget clearly the sequence of events.

Saw politics show, SNP hiding behind the £500M reduction from London funding again - if added up that £500M must by now be responsible for billions of pounds of spending the SNP have blamed it on.

SNPs biggest failing is not having the bottle to do the right thing and approving the trams when they could have kept their pledge and stopped will not do!

They whinge on about Iraq BUT that got voted through the commons - can't have it both ways.
43

Hobbe,

15/11/2009 18:37:00
Trying to attach the tram debacle to the SNP is a joke mate.

Labour tory and libdems acted against the Scottish interest and hoped that the Scottish Government (brand new) would ignore the stupid tram-line vote and spark a vote of no confidence.

The unionists always put narrow westminster interests before Scottish interests.

There is far more than £500 million being kept from Scotland by Westminster as well, much much more, some of it denied to us but not allowed to be used for any purpose.

Stagnating, like westminster politics.

The rather funny post by 'graham' makes out that the Scottish Government are a disappointment and that it is time to back the unionist troolps who are by inference presumed to be having a great run.

Reality is that Nu Labour are finished.

 

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