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Published Date: 13 June 2008
IT is difficult at first glance to effectively analyse the latest statistics issued today by the council on bullying and harassment in the city's schools.
While a relatively moderate rise in the numbers of racist incidents should give some cause for concern there is some satisfaction to be gained in the fact that the numbers of children reported for bullying continues to fall sharply.

But what shou
ld perhaps be more worrying is – even by the council's own admission – is that the figures appear to be far from an accurate picture of the true extent of what goes on in school corridors and playgrounds as it appears most schools have fallen out of the habit of recording or reporting such incidents.

The lack of co-operation from some schools is disappointing. Edinburgh has always attempted to take a robust attitude towards bullying. Eight years ago it launched a strategy to tackle it by encouraging both pupils and teachers to report and log incidents. It is still one of only nine local authorities in the country which continues to produce annual figures on reported incidents.

From today's evidence it would appear that its attempts to gather effective data are being undermined by staff in the majority of city schools who claim only a few incidents have taken place in the last year.

This is hard to accept – certainly so for the council, which believes that today's reported figures are still only the tip of the iceberg and that many incidents are still going unreported.

They are backed in that assumption by Edinburgh and Lothians Racial Equality Council, which believes that only one in four incidents of racial abuse are being reported. And it does seem strange that in the wider world Lothian and Borders Police puts the steep rise in the number of racial crimes that they have recorded down to a greater willingness among victims to lodge complaints.

Doubtless one of the difficulties facing teaching staff is determining what constitutes bullying or just teasing which has gone too far. For example, it is difficult to understand why 14 incidents of homophobic attacks in primary schools were logged last year against pupils of an age where they are unlikely to be fully aware of their own sexuality. How many of these could have been regarded as pre-adolescent repetition of words and phrases picked up by children and not insults?



There has to be consistency in reporting if the council is to ascertain the extent of the problems and develop effective strategies to combat bullying and all types of harassment. But clear guidelines have to be issued so that political correctness does not run amok and that genuine incidents do not become confused with everyday playground banter with which generations of children have grown up.





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  • Last Updated: 13 June 2008 8:06 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Schools in Edinburgh
 
1

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

13/06/2008 11:08:35
I would analyse that further and look at the ages of the children in primary schools who are the victims of 'homophobic attacks'....children are far more aware these days than previously and it is quite possible that some victims understood the nature of an attack against them....and the perpetrator...Still, there will be plenty who still throw "p*of" around as an insult and have'nt got a clue...as it was when I was in primary school...

As far as bullying is concerned, it is like sexual abuse, the victims are too frightened and may have been threatened if they expose their attacker...attitudes still prevail that certain schools do not have a problem or can sort it out themselves, which, usually is not the case...the bullies, I am afraid, have to be dealt with accordingly, and not just a big finger wagged in their face, their parents must be involved and an external body to moniter the situation. You are forced to put your child into a situation where they are surrounded by a large amount of other children...there are not enough people to moniter their well-being and you have reservations re their safety and well-being...would you do this voluntarily? especially if you found out that they were being bullied?....the education authorities have the responsibility of safeguarding your childs well-being, and if they fail this then they are not fit for the job in the first place...
2

James (1),

13/06/2008 13:16:34
Ethnics report crime more because they get preferential treatment.

No one deserves to be a victim of crime and no one deserves to have their crime given priority above others.

White person punched on the face- police officer investigates
Black person punched on the face- police officer investigates and enquiry overseen by police inspector.

Does this seem fair?
3

JT,

13/06/2008 13:28:46
As someone who was bullied at school and made to feel it was my fault, this is one of the reasons why reports of bullying are distorted. It is simple bullying is not teasing, bullying kills sometimes. We read from time to time kids taking their own lives as noone is there for them. Its very easy to say tell someone, but there isnt always someone to listen and take action. Its criminal that race or religious attacks get preferential treatment by schools, authority and the media. Any attack for whatever reason should be handled in a professional and supportive manner. I personally would publically name and shame bullies whoever they are. They made my life hell at school, however I did get the last laugh on one, when a few years ago I saw one, down on their luck with a snotty nose kid screaming in the middle of the store, she looked really fed up, I laughed all the way home.
4

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

13/06/2008 13:35:07
Reporting 'em is a waste of time. Ambush 'em individually and hit 'em with sports equipment until they go down. They won't come back for more. Personally I found a cricket bat quite effective and a tennis racquet is indispensible in a stone fight.

Here;s a tip though: report them to the cops first. The cops won't do anything, but when they come to your door about hospitalising a bully, you can point out that you gave them the chance and then were forced to a DIY solution.
5

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

13/06/2008 14:00:32
...and your confession will lead to an instant charge of assault I am afraid Poo's pal...

I too have seen school bullies end up on the seedier side of life...for some it seems inevitable...heroin addiction, prostitution...hordes of waens and nae job etc...but take no pleasure in their situations because for other children that fear and stress is ongoing...these people are still at school, harrassing and assaulting other children...especially shy, timid children...natural victims for the more aggressive bullies....not every child can turn on their aggressor and give them a sound kicking...although I found that it was he answer...there are children who withdraw further and further into themselves and their wee lives can be ruined...

Schools have to acknowledge that bullying is basic human nature...we are of the animal kingdom and still seek to weed out the weaker from the pack...children are great accomplishers at this particular task....in my opinion children should be taught basic humanity from the minute their erse hits the chair...that it is wrong to hate because someone is a different colour/religion/culture....but PARTICULARLY because another child is timid/shy/quiet/sensitive etc and brings out the beast in you....because this you see, never seems to be addressed...
6

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

13/06/2008 14:29:52
"...and your confession will lead to an instant charge of assault I am afraid Poo's pal..."

Don't think so. The cops came to the door twice and were sent packing both times after I explained that any violence against myself would forthwith be repaid with escalation in a similar manner. My suspicion is that since a court case would have revealed that they'd done absolutely sod all about my complaints, with the consequent embarassment, they were unwilling to prosecute. Instead they visited the families of bullies and told them "he's a nutter, none of your kids should have dealings with him".

Naturally this suited me fine. All I wanted was to be able to make my way home from the Chess Club unmolested. Unsurprisingly, none of them annoyed me again.

Conclusion: application of violence through weaponry is an effective tactic in these circumstances. There's nothing a bully understands quite so much as a trip to the hospital.
7

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

13/06/2008 14:46:49
"not every child can turn on their aggressor and give them a sound kicking"

That's my point: stealth, ambush and force multiplication through weaponry is the way to go if it's not going to work out one-on-one, and particularly if the bullies' method is group ambush.

After all, the bully will never look for a fair fight, so you're not obligated to play fair either.

I recall once one of them was kicking me from behind in class while I was reading to the class. I put down the book; stood on my chair; stood on his desk, and kicked him hard in the face. It was bloody and effective, largely I think because he didn't expect it. Neither did the teacher. My explanation was the same though: "It is my policy to repay violence with escalated violence". They could have lather, rinsed and repeated with the cops, but they knew it was a waste of time too. I had to spend the day at the back of the class.

The bully spent much of it though trying to stop his lips and nose bleeding. All in all I thought it a sound enough trade. He didn't look for a repeat either.
8

School in the Park,

Joppa 13/06/2008 16:25:52
#4 "Reporting 'em is a waste of time"

Correcto!! It could be counter productive. One of our local primaries is losing kids frequently and apparently it is mainly down to endemic bullying. The heidie is weak, incidents are swept under the table and if the parents of the bullys are in with the management of the school then influence is exerted. Ironic or what- seen as how the bullying behaviour was probaly instilled at home.

I confess to picking on what I thought was a meeker class mate. It was a one off. The kick in the shins he gave me with what must have been steel toed shoes still lives in my memory almost 20 years later. F poo is right- stand up for yourself dont bother reporting it.
9

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

13/06/2008 16:29:33
6...I must say I am surprised at the cops attitude...having known some that would do their granny...normally they jump at the chance of a straightforward charge...any court overtime is court overtime you see....

I can understand where you are coming from but prevention is better than cure...Your comment re escalating violence sounds just like war to me...and that is not something that belongs in the classroom....look at Columbine and the cult of the 'Classroom Avenger' in America...youths that are driven to mass murder because of the fact that they do not 'fit in'...are 'nerds' 'weirdos'..'geeks' and all the other cruel labels that are attached to them....I think that these young folk have been alienated...not that they want to be like that, but were driven to it.....ostracized and isolated...their 'escalating violence' however has killed innocent people....not the answer....

...although I have got stuck in...in the playground when challenged by a bully...
10

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

13/06/2008 16:50:45
9: "I must say I am surprised at the cops attitude..."

They go before the Beak to admit they haven't done their job and are instead prosecuting the victim? It doesn't sound like a workable plan to me either.

"Your comment re escalating violence sounds just like war to me"

Exactly so. A purpose of war, and of warmaking capability, is to convince the enemy that it is an unsound idea to engage you.

"that is not something that belongs in the classroom...."

*Violence* doesn't belong in the classroom, or on the way to or from it. My purpose was to reduce violence; in particular that violence visited upon my person. What it has going for it is that it is effective. Even in the unlikely event that a bully were to return to the fray, the victim can regard the bully's stay in hospital as a kind of holiday and time to practice their swinging arm for the next innings.

I think you have a point regarding Columbine and other mass violence - there are other ways of hurting people than direct physical force, such as social exclusion. Tackling this might help prevent such incidences.

I reject however your suggestion that my "always escalate" idea is in any way similar to Columbine and like atrocities. These incidents involve harming innocent people - something I consider abhorrent. My plan was to harm the perpetrators of violence as a means of dissuading them from violence.

The modern equivalent would be when a little old lady shoots a home invader - that's a righteous shooting, good social work and something to be admired. If she went to the local Library and sprayed it with machine-gun fire however, that would be wrong.

11

Horrible Cankers at the Cyber Shebeen,

13/06/2008 19:24:00
10..Its simple...if you assault someone, they have a witness and you do not...you then confess to two cops that you assaulted someone...then you are guilty of the crime of assault...that is the law and I have seen people charged because of this...unfair as it is....the police are duty-bound to charge you, if not, they are in breach of their responsibilities and can be reported themselves..it is very black and white...in fact the beaten bully does not even need a witness if you confess to the cops...believe me..I know what I am talking about...in your situation...hospital report...visible injuries..your previous complaint to the police (motivation) and subsequent confession??....the jobs a good 'un...
12

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

13/06/2008 20:02:19
#11. Perhaps what you say is true, in these ridiculously politically correct times. It's a while since I was at school. The police left me alone, and told the bullies they'd be best advised to do the same.

For modern kids, perhaps sound advice would be to ensure ambush when no witnesses present, and simply repeat "no comment" to Police. It's more important that the bullies get the message than it is that the Police do.

Time was though, that the Police were on the side of the citizens rather than the criminals, and the bullies are the ones who grow up to mug little old ladies and rape children.


 

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