Help Sitemap Home Skip Navigation Contact Us Disability Statement

The hunt is On.
Sponsored by
Can you track down Scotland's wildest beastie?
 
 
Wednesday, 3rd December 2008

Premium Article !

Your account has been frozen. For your available options click the below button.

Options

Premium Article !

To read this article in full you must have registered and have a Premium Content Subscription with the Edinburgh Evening News site.

Subscribe

Registered Article !

To read this article in full you must be registered with the site.

Neighbours offer parking bays axe to save trees from the chop



Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image
Click on thumbnail to view image

Published Date: 16 July 2008
WHEN trams bosses drew up plans to trim a line of trees in the West End, they can have had no idea what was about to unfold.
They wanted to lop some of their branches off to make sure that buses diverted around the latest tram works at Haymarket didn't smash into them.

Residents in leafy Grosvenor Crescent immediately leapt to the defence of the trees, though, protesting they must remain untouched.

One chestnut tree is believed to be more than 200 years old.

Some residents are so concerned about the possible damage, they have offered to give up a line of parking bays to protect them.

The protests halted plans to cut back the trees yesterday, while the council considers the idea of temporarily suspending residents' parking bays to give the buses enough room to pass the trees.

The move is likely to divide the neighbourhood, as the idea is understood to have been previously rejected by residents groups.

Kenneth Murray, 49, chairman of a fund management firm, who has lived on Grosvenor Crescent for 12 years, supports the idea.

"It is an absolutely scandalous proposal to cut and prune these trees for the sake of a temporary traffic diversion," he said.

"This council is always banging on about the need for being environmentally sensitive, but you can hardly say this is environmentally sensitive.

"It is outrageous and typical of the way the whole project has just been forced through the city.

"These trees are on private property and, more importantly, they have been there for hundreds of years.

"We are proposing they lose some of the residents' parking bays temporarily, and I hope they listen to this common sense solution."

A solution to the problem will have to be thrashed out between council officials and residents in the coming weeks, before major tram works start at Haymarket next month.

The works will mean east-bound bus services avoiding Haymarket on a diversion along Landsdowne Crescent and down Grosvenor Street. The diversion is due to be in place by August 18.

The section is among the last on the airport to Newhaven route to have utilities moved and will mean a series of traffic diversions.

This is expected to create major problems, particularly in the first few weeks when the Festival is still in full swing. Work is scheduled to last until February 2009.

Councillor Joanna Mowat, who represents the city centre ward, said: "From what I can see it is a sensible compromise, especially if the local residents are happy to go without the parking spaces temporarily.

"There are some difficulties with parking in that area, so I guess a balance would have to be struck however."

Earlier this month, tram firm TIE was criticised for its plans to cut down an avenue of trees on Shandwick Place to make way for the tram line.

A council spokeswoman said: "We understand residents desire to protect their trees. Our goal in pruning them was to ensure that vehicles on the public road are not impeded and also to protect the trees from substantial damage from moving vehicles.

"Our tree expert was the best course of action. We will now meet with residents to come to an amicable solution on taking this matter forward."


The full article contains 555 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
Page 1 of 1

 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 16/07/2008 12:14:10
Well done the residents of Grosvenor Crescent.
2

Old Cartha Boy,

Trinity 16/07/2008 12:19:51
I hope the residents remember that the Parliamentary approval to remove trees was given only becuase it was agreed that TIE would replace them nearby - any evidence of that?

3

,

16/07/2008 12:24:18
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
4

Jakey Rowling,

16/07/2008 12:26:52
Couldn't the buses be rerooted, otherwise I'm stumped for a solution.
5

Arrow,

edinburgh 16/07/2008 12:30:10
i see that there is a part next to the related stories called "Edinburgh Transport Plans". a contradiction in terms. planning implies a degree of looking forward and anticipating the outcome of a course of action. does not seem to be happening in this and other cases related to this vainglorious trainset.
6

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 16/07/2008 12:35:57
Good on residents. Shows the council can listen if they want to!

Now council will you listen to us about the tat shops in the town!
7

raythebear,

edinburgh 16/07/2008 12:36:08
the trees may be on private property but they are overhanging on to the public road
8

Jim W,

16/07/2008 12:45:02
You're wrong #2. What is sheer bloody mindedness is forcing a white elephant tram system on people when the vast majority didn't want vast sums of valuable public money spent on the scheme in the first place.
9

Jakey Rowling,

16/07/2008 12:51:34
11.

As victor would say, this is an bay leaf able.
10

I love to eat Sellotape,

16/07/2008 12:56:49
No, he wouldn't say that.
11

Jakey Rowling,

16/07/2008 13:08:28
13.

Apologies for that old chestnut again.
12

Bill MacD,

16/07/2008 13:09:10
Kudos to the residents. It's great to read about people who care about more than just their own immediate self-interest. Good people!
13

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington Pun Factory 16/07/2008 13:16:15
I bet we're all sycamore tram articles.
14

Bob 2,

16/07/2008 13:20:31
No7

Think your barking up the wrong tree
15

Bob 2,

16/07/2008 13:21:21
maybe we could have a branch line for the trams running round this street !
16

Bob 2,

16/07/2008 13:22:29
Just remember Edinburgh is Open for Business
17

,

16/07/2008 14:05:52
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
18

I love to eat Sellotape,

16/07/2008 14:12:13
Mario - if you're unable to sleep, just look for that Petrol Head guy. He does the trick for me.
19

,

16/07/2008 14:26:54
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
20

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 16/07/2008 14:29:38

Bus Drivers could be given the BIRCH as a punishment for hitting the trees,
Problem being there might be a lot of ASH about from the on looking audience, that smoke.
The Council WOOD make money out of this, when the Smokers dropped their, Twig-ends, and received a £50.00 fine.
21

,

16/07/2008 14:45:13
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
22

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 16/07/2008 14:45:33
Or instead of Buses we could use Painted Wagons!

I talk to the trees
But they don't listen to me
I talk to the stars
But they never hear me
The breeze hasn't time
To stop and hear what I say
I talk to them all in vain


But suddenly my words
Reach someone else's ears
Touch someone else's heartstrings, too
I tell you my dreams
And while you're listening to me
I suddenly see them come true.
23

Broughton Resident,

Edinburgh 16/07/2008 14:51:04
Good for the residents. In Broughton, the Council removed residents parking spaces and converted some of them to 'pay and display' without any notice being given. They also wrote to only a selected few to say that until things return to normal (if ever) residents could park in 'pay and display' spaces as if they were residents spaces. I only found out by chatting to a neighbour and when I called the Council, they confirmed that anyone in zone 6 could do this.
24

The Judge,

16/07/2008 14:56:33
Nice try but the parking bay don't belong to the residents of the street. If they(trees) are trimmed and pruned properly then there will be no problems in the future, unfortunately the work will be carried out by a council/tie workman so the tree will most likely die within a few years.
25

Big Stu,

16/07/2008 15:42:43
There are far too many trees in Edinburgh, they are so unsightly with there leaves that fall everywhere and cause havoc. Chop em all down and put a nice big bus in their place. That will brighten things up.
26

Eliz,

Edinburgh 16/07/2008 15:53:08
Why can't the residents' parking bays be moved over to the side of the street under the trees? If the buses are to use the street on the side of the present bays, is it not possible to swap them over?
27

Heartfelt,

EDINBURGH 16/07/2008 16:38:34
#30. You display a complete sense of naivety and make the mistake of applying common sense. If your plan was followed nobody - residents, car drivers, public transport users or pedestrians - would be inconvenienced. What sort of transport policy would that be?
28

rs,

.on the tram 16/07/2008 17:57:03
a non TRAM story

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Lothian-Buses-is-named-best.4292358.jp#3007677
29

Spout,

Edinburgh 16/07/2008 18:15:31
I don't understand why the residents solely of Grosvenor Crescent and Lansdowne Crescent have the right to "give up the parking bays". These bays are for the use of anyone who lives in Zone 1...not just for them. I live around the corner from there and often have to park there. No-one has asked for my opinion on the matter even though I pay for my permit just as they do. There are enough bays restricted in Zone 1 just now for tram works - the last thing we need are more for the sake of some trees being trimmed.
30

Maxibus,

16/07/2008 19:05:11
Manchester have revealed that once the new Metrolink lines open from spring 2011, city centre tramstops will see twice the number of trams serving them. Construction work is due to commence in early 2009 on the lines which will serve Oldham and Rochdale, Droylsden and Chorlton.
31

earnabob,

Reprogramming a GPS. 17/07/2008 08:02:40
What worries me is I used to work around that area and the streets in question are not a great place to be diverting traffic through in the first place, being leafy crescents that aren't very wide..
I would have thought taking away parking bays was the only way to get it done anyway. I think passengers on the buses will find lurching round those crescents a bit worrying at the best of times as I doubt the surface is being repaired before the diversion either. I note the diversion will also use Rosebery Crescent which has a school with speed restrictions on these roads at certain times of the day which will slow traffic really well when the school is open.
I also know that in the past the residents complained there weren't enough resident bays in the area and lots of pay & display bays were changed to resident ones - but the council being as they are the signs were still there to confuse visitors and ensure a few parking tickets were issued.
32

rs,

.in the sun 19/07/2008 16:45:58
no 35 are you saying that TIE don't know what they are doing.

They've already made a mess of the bus services in Edinburgh.

 

Comment on this Story

 

In order to post comments you must Register or Sign In

 
 
 
  

 
 

Today's Vote

Do you think that tthe number of bus lanes in the city should be increased?
No, they cause congestion rather than ease it
Yes, they will help improve the bus service
Yes, but only if parking spaces are not lost

Featured Advertising



Sister Newspapers:
Press Complaints Commission

This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here.

If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here.