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Published Date: 23 June 2009
UNION leaders were today set to hold a crucial meeting with the city council to discuss measures to modernise pay agreements for its 20,000 staff.
The proposals include the introduction of 12 broad pay grades, which the council said would lead to around 20 per cent of staff seeing a reduction in their normal pay after a period of three years.

The local authority said that 80 per cent of its
staff would not lose out, with around a fifth of those gaining from the proposals.

However, the package would "significantly change" the terms and conditions, pay and grading for most of its staff, the council said.

The package has been drawn up following consultation with the Unite, Unison and GMB unions over the past year. But Union leaders criticised the council for the way it had briefed members of staff on its proposals.

Unison's Kevin Duguid said he was "disappointed" the council had been briefing staff rather than talking directly with the unions.

He said: "The situation from our perspective is that we are awaiting the final proposals. We anticipate that we will get them today.

"The council sent out a briefing note to staff last week, but it doesn't really provide a lot of detail about the package."

Moves to modernise and simplify pay arrangements for public sector workers are being carried out across the country. Edinburgh City Council has gone further than some employers who have simply reviewed "single status" agreements relating to the disparity in pay between men and woman.

City council leader Jenny Dawe said: "For some time now the council has been working on a hugely significant project to establish fair and equitable pay and grading arrangements for staff.

"Modernising Pay was set up to honour our legal obligations under "single status" but we have gone much further by developing a comprehensive package of terms and conditions, pay and grading, which rewards staff for their contribution to the organisation.

"We are now at a stage where we can share these proposals with staff.

Last week the Evening News reported that a pay freeze is one of the options being considered by council chiefs to plug a £92 million black hole in the local authority's finances.

Council chiefs have already agreed to a 2.5 per cent pay rise for all staff this year but are now looking at a number of scenarios which could see non-teaching council staff facing a pay freeze in 2010-11 and the city's 3,400 teachers having their pay frozen in 2011-12. Projected pay awards for the rest of the next four years would range between 1 and 2.5 per cent.





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  • Last Updated: 23 June 2009 10:01 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

sahsa,

23/06/2009 12:08:54
DONT KNOW why the unions are upset, I work for the council and myself and others have never been briefed about proposals, this is the firts I have heard about anything to do with pay structures.
2

wellieboot,

Edinburgh 23/06/2009 12:14:02
Twelve pay grades. In the private sector we have about 5:

1. Troops
2. Techies / Junior Managers
3. Middle Managers
4. Senior Managers
5. Board members

It appears they're still 20 years behind.

ie Stop whining!!
3

Fluffy,

edinburgh 23/06/2009 12:30:00
#1 where have you been? it's been getting cascaded to all council staff for at least a year!!!
4

Hector the Red,

23/06/2009 12:34:08
"Last week the Evening News reported that a pay freeze is one of the options being considered by council chiefs to plug a £92 million black hole in the local authority's finances."

Is this including or excluding the £40 million they still have to find for the tram fiasco?
5

It's Leith for me!,

23/06/2009 13:08:44
and where exactly did this £92 milion black hole figure come from? - it's just something they plucked at random out of the air to try and shaft council workers and service users - I don't see any managers or councillors going short, and anyway, if Gordon can happliy handover over a trillion to keep his banker friends afloat, there should be no cuts anywhere
6

tomias,

Edinburgh 23/06/2009 14:13:38
Now all you intellectuals- Union official pay structures. Any comment ?
7

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 23/06/2009 14:55:00
Firstly they should reduce 10,000 of the 12,000 to the grade of unemployed!

Secondly they should restructure the remaining 2000 lay-abouts to actually do some proper work with pressure and deadlines like the rest of us and pay them well as long as they start looking after the public interest as opposed to seeing what they can skin us for !
8

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 23/06/2009 15:37:39
Council workers should just get on with their job and stop moaning,they are overpaid as it is.
9

scoopy,

23/06/2009 17:27:47
If council are skint why are they paying a fortune for agency staff in places, buying people carriers and spending a fortune on mollycoddling wee neds via their youth justice and intensive support charades oops sorry I meant services. Want a service from the council - tip - get a family member to nick a car.
10

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 24/06/2009 01:06:38
11:-

The mistake I made was Arithmetic not Mathematic - you do know the difference ? -- indeed it wasn't even that it was a typo ...! tut tut silly me !

My message was get rid of the vast cohorts of useless parasitic staff because they do nothing but keep the unemployment stats down at taxpayers expense.

RS:- folk like you will always come up with some sob story about disabled children and play on the heart strings of a few who can't see through your deceit ..

There are very few disabled children in Edinburgh thankfully. None of them need go wanting for the sake of getting rid of parasites in the council - they would do much better as the money saved in salaries could be directed towards further improving their facilities - I suspect that, like most bloated council departments staff 'numbers' are not a problem but 'productive staff' numbers and resources are !

CEC is just a massive house of ego's that costs the earth and does nothing ... I don't think I am going to bother paying them anymore council tax until another bunch is elected as the current lot will just waste the money ! It would be great if more folk took up conscientious objection to council squandering and vastly overstaffed headquarters and planning departments etc by refusing to pay their council tax until such time as the Council started addressing the waste and serving the common good again.

Did you know you can legally not pay taxes if you can put forward a good case the taxation is being levied by a 'treasonous' administration ! How difficult would that be! I think it is time more of us knew about our absolute birthright as 'freemen' of the UK/Scotland !

 

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