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Capital half driven to despair by the sad state of its streets



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Published Date: 12 April 2008
HALF of the city's residents are unhappy with the state of Edinburgh's roads and pavements, according to a council survey.
Nearly 5000 people were asked to rate services in their neighbourhoods.

While the local authority scored 84 per cent satisfaction rates for street lighting and refuse collection, it performed badly when it came to roads and pavements, with just 5
1 per cent of those surveyed saying they were happy with the state of streets.

Road campaigners today said the results reflect the unhappiness among taxpayers with the levels of money spent on maintenance.

City leaders today said they were investing record amounts of money into improving roads after decades of under-investment.

Earlier this year, the News revealed that more than £70 million needed to be spent to bring Edinburgh's roads and pavements up to scratch. Around 260 road or pavement improvements are set to be carried out this year, but hundreds more are outstanding.

Spending on roads and pavement renewals in Edinburgh has increased four-fold over the past four years and currently stands at more than £16m per annum.

Councillor Robert Aldridge, the city's environment leader, said: "There have been decades of under-funding in Edinburgh's roads and pavements and unfortunately it will take a long time to turn this around. The current administration has committed a substantial investment of £60m over the next three years."

Councillor Ricky Henderson, the city's Labour transport spokesman, said: "We need to listen more to communities and hear where they want to see improvements. Often there are priorities which are not recognised because of the way things are set up just now. For example, a hole in the road outside a school may affect more people but is not given priority because the hole in the cul-de-sac round the corner is technically in worse condition."

Almost £3m has been paid out in compensation in the last ten years as a result of the city's cracked roads and pavements.

Tina Woolnough, spokeswoman for the Edinburgh Traffic Forum, said: "The survey is a fair reflection of just how people feel about the state of our road and pavements. Some of the streets have a third-world feel to them. It has been going on for so long now that people are just fed up."

AND THE SURVEY SAID. .

EDINBURGH is the first local authority in the UK to undertake this type of in-depth research among those who use its services.

The survey saw a mix of face-to-face interviews and mystery shopping exercises, which the council admits threw up some "interesting" results for its Services For Communities department to ponder.

Citywide, average satisfaction levels are:

• Satisfaction with local neighbourhood as a place to live – 86 per cent

• Street lighting – 84 per cent

• Refuse collection – 83 per cent

• Parks and green spaces – 71 per cent

• Recycling – 64 per cent

• The way litter in the street is dealt with – 56 per cent

• The way dog fouling is dealt with in local neighbourhood – 44 per cent





The full article contains 522 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 12 April 2008 10:36 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

me150,

12/04/2008 11:32:26
51% happy with the state of the streets? Well that is a surprise especially with the work for the trams. I would have expected it to be less than that even without the tram work going on.
2

Indie Rep Kid,

12/04/2008 12:08:46
"Some of the streets have a third-world feel to them"

slight exaggeration, methinks!
3

Dragonlord,

12/04/2008 12:27:23
2# You need to come round this way and you will see just how bad the roads are.

As for the 51% they are having a laugh. How anyone could be happy with the roads and pavements in Edinburgh, is beyond me. Perhaps they were only talking about their own street, and not roads in general.
4

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 12/04/2008 13:10:30
There is only 51% of them open
5

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 12/04/2008 13:17:38
No surprises here - we have a totally useless libdem/SNP administration in charge of the city, who would prefer to eat free food at their meetings at my expense. You could see this coming when they got elected - anyone who voted for these clowns should hang their head in shame.
6

L,

Edinburgh 12/04/2008 13:26:31
"Some of the streets have a third-world feel to them"

People who make statements like that should be made to go and live in a third world country for a while, might make them realise what they have.
7

Smackhead,

Ediburgh 12/04/2008 13:26:33
Real time proof, as if it was needed, that paying Council Tax does not work its way back to anything that you can see worthwhile. Stop paying this dire tax. At least then you will know WHY there is no evidence of any work done.
8

Dan.D.Nong,

12/04/2008 13:41:28
No need to spend any money. The chewing gum dots on all the pavements will eventually join up and become a solid surface that will never wear out.
9

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 12/04/2008 14:06:49
I go to Europes other capiatl cities regulary on byusiness, 2 or 3 a month and Edinburgh is a disgrace. Spending money on a white elephant tram scheme when basics like pavements and roads are in such poor condition is ridiculous.
10

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 12/04/2008 14:07:47
#5. You sir are an idiot - it has taken decades of decline to get here, not the recent few months.
11

The Ghost of Sir William Arrol,

The Forthy Bridge 12/04/2008 14:19:34
The deplorable state of the roads took years of neglect and mis-management by Labour numpties.

That said, the council now don't want to be responsible for the damage to vehicles and are blatantly delaying the processing of claims by farming the work out to legal firms who obfuscate, dither and take years to process documents. It's quite shameful behaviour designed to make the claiming process as difficult as possible in the hope that people will just give up!

I claimed for suspension damage after thumping a pothole deep enough to have a bath in (while avoiding an even worse one) and after years of waiting, their lawyers said it's not the council's fault because they have an inspection regime in place. Complete and utter nonsense of course, and in my opinion it represents an abdication of responsibility and is a stance that is bringing the reputation city council down into the gutter.
12

Suzi B,

12/04/2008 14:32:44
Currie and some parts of Balerno have just undergone a regime of speed humps being placed in every suburban street. In some of the streets I bump over, you rarely see a living soul, far less a car, speeding or otherwise, which is really just as well since some of the streets have beautiful new humps that would have been better spread out over the road and pavement surface to fill in the potholes.
13

Brian M,

Edinburgh 12/04/2008 15:32:46
Yet "SCOTLAND is set to stage a celebration to mark Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday this summer.

Princes Street Gardens in Edinburgh would play host to an all-day event under plans being considered by council chiefs"

Another misuse of council tax money
14

Davie Lad,

Edin 12/04/2008 15:40:58
• Recycling – 64 per cent

• The way litter in the street is dealt with – 56 per cent

• The way dog fouling is dealt with in local neighbourhood – 44 per cent

Recycling? A couple of large bins placed handily every five streets away or so.
Litter in the street? Yes there is lots of it and unless you live in Heriot Row its never cleaned up
Dog Fouling? This is dealt with? AT ALL??? Don't make me laugh.
Lets have some Council Tax rebates please as clearly this money is used for nothing of use.
15

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 12/04/2008 16:39:34
Perhaps if those in charge of the city streets were to try pushing a heavy adult in a wheelchair the length of the Royal Mile, they might start to understand the problems.
16

Arfur,

12/04/2008 17:23:20
#5 Gorgie_Tony - what a tool you are. The state of Edinburghs streets are terible due to years of mismanagement and under funding i.e under Labour rule.

It is only now that this is being looked at and the largest investment is being put forward i.e. under SNP rule.

The Times today has an articel re Edinburgh and Salmond is backing a 12 point plan over the comming years which will redevelop the waterline, redevelop Princess Street, have cafes shops and bars along Princess street with flats and offices above them (instead of storage for shops), redevelop Lothian road, redevelop Waverley and the area of Haymarket, improve links to Glasgow, improve the roads, improve Western approach road link and improve the bottle neck that is the west end.

I would like to see how AM2 or Highland Mighty can put a bad spin on this one.
17

Dunaskin,

Edinburgh 12/04/2008 17:52:46
Arfur (#16) - I think you'll find that the Edinburgh redevelopment is almost all private sector stuff. Building bland anonymous office and hotel blocks doesn't need public funding, so it hasn't anything to do with Salmond or the Govt, unless there is something untoward about the planning approval process. The Council, and its much-maligned development agencies, are driving this process, not Holyrood. Of course, politicians (of any hue) are only to happy to jump on bandwagons...
18

me150,

12/04/2008 20:09:08
Easy to blame Labour isn't it.

I am pretty sure you will find that it would have been no different with any other party in power.

Quite simply the government needs to raise taxes to make these things happen. I know you will say that there is a lot of tax misuse but you will find that in almost every country in the world. It is the way it is. To raise taxes would mean to increase what you lot pay out of your pockets and I'm sure you would all accept that without complaint, wouldnt you.

Since any government is continually trading off what it invests in and what it leaves it is unlikely that the roads will ever see any proper management. The same applies to many many other areas.

I am also sure that Labour, SNP or whoever else happens to be in power at any particular point in time, would love sort out ALL the problems of the country by throwing money at them, and managing them properly, but there is never any likelyhood that there will be enough money available.

Why? Because for enough money to be available would mean an increase in taxes which would be unpopular to say the least.

No party can deal with this, or many other, areas needing attention because they will not raise the taxes because they will not be in power come the next election.
19

Martin 2,

EDINBURGH 12/04/2008 20:27:47
The warning for car drivers at the foot of Lochend Road warning them of the tram work at the foot of Leith Walk has made an already crumbling pavement third rate.

So much money for the trams and even the councils own team is destroying pavements with their signs- real issue was the sloppy way that utility companies "clear up" after them - this destroys the roads and pavements.

The council spent quite a bit on Leith Walk ( trees and better pavements)during the last 10 years - look at the bombsite that it is now - complete waste of public money.
20

Boring comment detective,

Edinburgh 12/04/2008 22:35:48
#20
You must be pissed. Nothing you say makes sense. Why don't you come back tomorrow sonny when your sober and try again?
21

The Daleks,

Longmen 13/04/2008 00:23:43
If the council spent less money on rolling out the welcome/benefits mat to our new countrymen and women and children and grandparents and extended family members from all points east (no, not Dunbar). Then they might have a few bob to spend on essential services, like having First World roads.
22

The Daleks,

Longmen 13/04/2008 00:38:15
And on #13's point.

Why on earth does Edinburgh have to squander ordinary folks dough on a Nelson Mandela thingy?

What does Mandela have to do with Balerno, or Muirhouse?

A complete disgrace.

The council tax goes up and up and up.

The council staff throw the money into their own pension pot (first) (have you seen what % of your council tax goes on council pensions?) then they throw the rest around on incomers, and "right on" PC festivals.

Your ability to pay means nothing to them.

They continually want to milk you for their own benefit and anti-indigenous PC pet projects, such as trying to re-wire how you think, to your own detriment.

It's about time you all woke up and refused to pay.
23

Julian,

EDINBURGH 13/04/2008 01:09:39
Gorgie_Tony

And what was the satisfaction level when labour were in power? For all you know, 80% were unhappy back then.

Totally meaningless statistices without historical comparisons in my opinion.
24

jdships,

13/04/2008 11:21:49
16 Arfur,
It is only now that this is being looked at and the largest investment is being put forward i.e. under SNP rule.


Sorry you are living in your little political dream world.
Check and you will find from "official sources" that
the "Edinburgh redevelopment" is almost all private sector work.

Will agree that the deterioration of Edinburgh streets has been gonig on for years .
It has simply been " fire fighting" as far as road repairs are concerned.
Close by where I live , for the past eighteen months, a metal plate 4ft square has covered a pothole in the middle of a busy road.

Council please note there is such a word as "prioritise" !!
25

Euan,

Edinburgh 13/04/2008 12:12:18
Ricky Henderson(the city's Labour transport spokesman)has the bare-faced cheek to even comment in this article.

It was his previous Labour council that showed us how NOT to manage budgets and how NOT to listen the local peoples' concerns when it came to the condition of the roads in this City.

Edinburgh's roads need proper, full-blown investment, not all the half-arsed patch-up jobs we see going on almost EVERY DAY - all a legacy of Labour's incompetence.

Yet despite this, the outrageous sum of £500 MILLION+ is being squandered on a tram LINE that will serve hardly any of Edinburgh's population.

THAT, Ricky Henderson, is priorities gone wrong.





26

The Busman,

Edinburgh 13/04/2008 22:39:45
So why should the Council have committed to a £500m trams projects when it couldn't even sort out a £70m backlog of road maintenance?

If they wanted to get more people onto using the buses, reducing the atrocious road roughness was surely the way to go - riding in a bus is ghastly with the number of potholes around.

The trams project, in the context of the poor road mtce, is surely a case of, "all fur coat and no knickers".
27

paulr,

edinburgh 14/04/2008 08:09:04
84 per cent satisfaction rates for street lighting and refuse collection
51 per cent of those surveyed saying they were happy with the state of streets.
They obviously only surveyed areas not affected by the tram works and very well off areas where street repairs are carried out immediately.
28

20something,

Edinburgh 22/04/2008 13:14:44
#5 you're the only clown here. Have you seen the state of the roads in gorgie (and how they've been for years)? hardly a recent development, is it?

 

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