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Police urge residents to raise the alarm over burglaries



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Published Date: 14 October 2008
POLICE have appealed to people not to ignore burglar alarms after it emerged neighbours who heard break-ins taking place failed to do anything about it.
A community beat officer has sent e-mails to residents telling them not to be scared about wasting police time and to always report suspected crimes.

His plea comes after it was revealed that the police waste hundreds of hours responding to up to
15,000 false burglar alarms in Edinburgh every year.

However, beat officer Alan Hopper said residents could actually save police time by giving them the chance to catch burglars in the act.

He wrote to residents in the Merchiston and Bruntsfield area after hearing about two incidents where neighbours failed to call police out.

One involved a woman being woken up at 3am by a burglar alarm and "although concerned" didn't contact police to register her fears.

The second break-in, which also happened at around 3am, led to a woman being woken up by the sound of banging.

Pc Hopper said the woman "attributed the noise to the sound of the bowling club being broken into again" but, after seeing nothing untoward from her window, she returned to bed without alerting police to the noise and her concerns.

It transpired that burglars had forced open the doors to the bowling club.

He said: "Recently, there have been a couple of thefts by housebreaking that have caused concern amongst my colleagues.

"On each occasion that the crime occurred, it has transpired that local residents have heard the commission of the crime but taken no action."

He added: "Do not be afraid to contact the police.

"We would rather investigate to discover the matter is a false alarm than to be involved in a long and protracted investigation into crime."

During a 24-hour period in August, police dealt with 41 false alarms across the Capital, with 38 of these due to a system failure, two because of the weather and one because of a mistake by the keyholder.

Brian Smith, secretary of the Association of Scottish Neighbourhood Watches, said most alarms were not linked up to a police control room, so people have to call police if they hear one going off.

He said: "It's a known fact to professional burglars that they have a certain amount of time from an alarm going off and someone actually noticing it and phoning the police.

"I would urge anybody who hears a bell box or anything suspicious to call the police."

A police spokesman added: "Anyone who suspects that a crime is being committed should always report it to police immediately.

"It is important that we are informed of any suspicious activity, in order that we are given the opportunity to investigate it fully."





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  • Last Updated: 14 October 2008 10:29 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh policing
 
1

mystic,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 11:50:41
Whats the point, the police don't do anything. As I have said before, when the chinese community was targeted by burglars, and the police received information that a burglary was going to happen, they didn't even bother to setup a sting to catch them. All the CIDs just go home after 5pm. Theres no real attempt to actually catch those responsible.

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2

jdships,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 12:16:14
Sorry PC Hopper this doesn't make me feel any safer or have any more confidence in the police. !
As my old friend , retired uniform Super , says - " to-days police use the uniform and the rule book to set their own agenda's "
3

PaulB,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 13:12:28
I doubt the police would respond if they did receive a call about an alarm.
4

Mr C,

14/10/2008 13:16:01
I remember reporting a 'burglary' once and being told by the police on the phone that "theres no such thing as burglary its called housebreaking"..

so no wonder Id never bother to call again,

totally arrogant - no people skills at all, I say clear the rotten barrel out.. sack them all and start again.
5

Busy bus user ,

14/10/2008 13:16:25
I have reported alarms to the police and been told that unless I have evidence that there is a burglar on the premises they will not come. Now, to get evidence that there is a burglar on the premises I will have to go and have a look thus risking being attacked myself - which the police do not recommend. This argument got me nowehere.

So, Constable, perhaps you should be talking to your own Ops Room and not lecturing the public?
6

Spock,

14/10/2008 13:39:03
It seems to be standard practise for people in Edinburgh now not to report anything. I know of at least two occasions where alarms have gone off, front doors have been wide open and no call was made to the police by the people that saw it.

Over the last 5 - 10 years people have given up reporting because of the farcical situation at the Force Communications Centre. If they do report and are caught perpetrators usually get a slap on the wrist from the namby pamby PC, "oh they has a hard childhood" brigade. I think its fair to say the majority of people now just don't bother. An awful state for society to be in but it is of our own making.
7

Souper Woman,

Portobello 14/10/2008 14:20:37
A few months ago my daughter phoned the police in the middle of the night to report an alarm going off round the corner,
Much like no 5 she was told to go outside, in the dark alone, to see if there was any evidence and to note the alarm company and contact them herself!
Hint, she wasnt living in Merchiston or Brunstfield
Do you think that made a diffrence?
8

danbob,

14/10/2008 14:42:12
7# I can relate a similar story. School opposite alarm goes off at 11pm. Told to call local station. ten minutes of trying gave up and left it.
9

roadstohell,

14/10/2008 15:48:47
This is a ridiculous statement by the Police.
I too have reported neighbours alarms going off twice, and a car being broken into also a shed being broken into.
All I got was an "ops room" person asking me did I have evidence that there was actually anyone carrying out a burglary, sorry , housebreaking?

I mean do I really have to go out & ascertain that there are people committing a crime before they will act ???? I have to go out and possible be confronted by a drugged up nutter with a knife ???

Come on Police, get doing the job we the public expect you to do. If it's a "nuisance" well can I suggest another line of work for you
10

googler,

14/10/2008 16:15:36
Same story - reported the alarm ringing,

ops room say "residential or commercial premises?"
me "residential"

ops "Have you seen anyone in the vicinity of the premises?"
me "No, can't see the house from here"

ops "Unless we get a firm report of someone acting suspiciously in the vicinity, we don't usually send a patrol"

(or words to that effect)
11

BobW,

Embra 14/10/2008 16:48:18
What a load of nonsense. My daughter caught a burglar trying to break into my house. He was attempting to pull a window up. She called the police straight away. When they eventually arrived, she gave them their car registration number. Police questioned the men and were told that they were actually trying to 'close my window'. The police believed their story and let them go. Don't bother calling them, they are useless.
12

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

14/10/2008 17:27:29
Whats the point ? Have you tried getting through to the police ? That call centre is a joke - & the criminals know it
13

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 17:43:37
The Edinburgh police are a complete waste of time - they need a massive boot up the backside. They ain't interested in protecting the public or dishing out hard physical punishment to law breakers. In Gorgie we fear for our lives - I can only go out when the schoolkids are not about - and certainly not after 5:30pm. They are a complete and utter disgrace. Years ago the beat bobby ruled the neighbourhood - folk feared him walking down the street. You looked at him the wrong way and you got the back of his hand across your face - it never did us any harm - and there was no problems with the thugs. The lazy police officers these days are paid a lot more - and we get less action from them. Any police officer reading these comments will now realise the public are not impressed by your poor work rate, and lack of patrolling the streets.
14

Sassenach Observer,

14/10/2008 19:23:54
Shouldn't this headline be

"Police urge residents to do their job for them"

Oh by the way, if there are any burglars, don't try and stop them as we'll probably arrest you for assault. Nothing personal, but its far easier paperwork when for us when we have a genuine name and address.
15

Exiled in Cape Town,

Cape Town 15/10/2008 06:22:23
I once phoned them about a break-in occurring in the Tolcross area of Edinburgh and they were there in 3 minutes. They caught 1 guy inside and the other escaped. Two officers & myself went to court and the guy caught inside the house pleaded not guilty. I couldn't attend the trial date as I was out the country, but the two officers & I wasted 2.5 hours @ court before being told he pleaded not guilty. I don't bame the police, I blame the courts for soft sentencing and even allowing that tw#t the chance to plead not guilty when he was caught inside. He was guilty & should have been sentenced. South Africa became too liberal/politaclly correct and now look at the problems here with murderers, child rapists, etc only getting a few years in prison if they say they were drunk or on drugs. There was never this amount of crime here when they still had the death penalty. It should be automatic for murder, rape, child rape.

 

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