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Scottish jobless total up by 19,000



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Published Date: 15 October 2008
The number of people out of work in Scotland has increased by 19,000, according to new figures published today.
The figure for the most recent quarter was 124,000 on the Government's preferred measure – up 19,000 up on the previous quarter and 2,000 more than the total for the same quarter last year.

Unemployment as measured by the number of people claiming the jobseeker's allowance also went up in September to 81,800, a rise of 3,100 on the previous month.

The jobseekers' total is 8,100 up on September last year.
Scottish Secretary Jim Murphy said: "Every country in the world is facing real economic challenges.

"The UK has one of the most robust labour markets in the world and the support network of Jobcentre Plus is there to provide assistance to those who may fall out of work.

"Our priority must be to help people back into sustainable employment quickly and we will use every method at our disposal to make that happen."

On today's figures, the number of people in work in Scotland in the most recent quarter was said to be 2.538 million, a fall of 19,000 on the previous quarter and 10,000 down on the same period last year.
The Scottish employment rate of 76% is said to be above that of the UK and "almost all" countries in the EU.

As measured by the claimant count, the unemployment rate 3%.
Calculated on the Government's preferred method, using the International Labour Organisation measure, it saw a quarterly rise of 0.7% to 4.7%, compared to a UK average of 5.7%.

Finance secretary John Swinney said: "These figures are obviously disappointing, but they confirm everything that the Scottish Government has been saying about how the financial crisis is impacting on the real economy.

"There must now be measures to reflate the wider economy."

The Scottish Government had already announced action, including faster investment in affordable housing, but a programme of reflation was also needed from Westminster to boost the wider economy.

That should include relaxing Treasury rules to give the Scottish Government greater access to cash intended for Scotland, he said.
"The labour market in Scotland is still relatively strong, with the ILO unemployment rate significantly below that of the UK and many other advanced economies, and our employment and economic activity rates both stronger than the UK as a whole," said Mr Swinney.

"However, we cannot wait for things to get better – we are redoubling our efforts to accelerate investment and support business and families in Scotland, and the UK Government must now come forward with a reflationary package for the real economy as a matter of urgency."

Liberal Democrat MP Alistair Carmichael said: "These figures demonstrate that, while Scotland's unemployment rate is better than that of the UK as a whole, it is a deteriorating situation which leaves no room for complacency.

"This demonstrates the importance of government in Edinburgh and London working together to retain HBOS as an independent bank.

"Failure to do so will almost certainly lead to further job losses, at a time when Scotland can least afford them."


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  • Last Updated: 15 October 2008 12:39 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Economic indicators
 
1

Lianachan,

Highlands 15/10/2008 11:03:07
I don't see Gordon Brown grinning and smugly declaring that this shows how the union is good for Scotland.
2

glen urquhart,

glasgow 15/10/2008 11:17:45
Economic migrants and asylum seekers coming here might be welcome by some during better economic times but what happens now?

Thousands of Africans have arrived in Glasgow over the past months. Many well educated and willing to work. Obviously unemployment will go up and continue to rise in the city.

How many more will come to Glasgow which unlike many other cities welcomes asylum seekers with open arms?

What happens when Gordon Brown's middle classes are fighting for jobs and are having difficulties with their mortgages?
3

danbob,

15/10/2008 11:27:02
2# Well this is being played out in every UK city and it could lead to the nightmare scenario that the politicians refuse to consider. There seems to be a false belief amoungs't the guardian reading chattering classes that we are so civilised in these isles we will just take mounting immigration and the problems it brings on the chin. But scratch underneath the surface of any inner city and you will find a rising anger that will explode if this problem is not addressed.
4

G,

dundy 15/10/2008 12:36:44
#1 I don't see Alec Salmond standing up and accepting that this is his problem.....it seems the Union and not the SNP are responisble for unemployment.......or any other bad news.....
5

Lianachan,

Highlands 15/10/2008 12:45:03
#4 So, let me make sure I get this right. You're saying that anything good that happens, is due to the UK government, Gordon Brown, God Save The Queen, and all that - and anything bad that happens is due to Alex Salmond and his hoardes of goose-stepping national socialists?
6

steve52,

Kinfauns 15/10/2008 12:49:55
4# I would like to hear your explination as to how exactly this is Alex Salmond responsibility? I am assuming that you are one of these New Labour supporters who walks around with their head firmly stuck up their backside!

I look forward to Gordon Brown coming on to the BBC telling us how well he, and the union, have done for all those poor sods losing their jobs.

Stronger together, weaker apart. aye right.
7

Ewan M,

15/10/2008 13:17:31
#5 did you congratulate LAbour when unemployment was so low........didn't think so. MOst countries in the world will be losing jobs this year hardly think it supports the Pie Mans case for anything.
8

Ewan M,

15/10/2008 13:18:07
#6 Alex Salmond takes no responsibility for anything!!!!
9

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 13:39:05
"Calculated on the Government's preferred method, using the International Labour Organisation measure, it saw a quarterly rise of 0.7% to 4.7%"

While the rise in unemployment is disappointing, it should be put into perspective. Those who maintain that Scotland gets a raw deal and lags behind so many other countries should note thatthe EU average(based on the same analysis) was 7.5% in August.
10

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 15/10/2008 14:06:51
Most of Scotland is owned by English companies nowadays. So when unemployment increases up here I suspect there will be an equal and opposite effect down south, I'm starting to see it in my company where a majority of the managers are English, The scottish managers are being paid off and English managers are moving into their positions. The central Hub which used to be Glasgow is now Manchester...
11

Brian the Barbarian.,

unemployed granton chav land 15/10/2008 14:53:48

Who wants to bet not one of these job losses is in the public sector where re usable nappy inspectors are still being hired allong with their final salary pension schemes that are paid out of the tax of the wealth creators.

People in the private sector who have had their pensions robbed from them and the remainder now devestated by the very people their taxes are now bailing out have to be mad to stay in this country.
12

Elephant,

Linlithgow 15/10/2008 14:58:34
To Banana Heid.The notion that unemployment is falling down south is ridiculous. One indicator is the amount of Poles voting with their feet and returning home. As for your company having English managers, what does it matter if it brings success? I spent 7 years in London and found many Scots managing in high level positions. A modern economy needs the best regardless of origin.
13

The Answer,

Glasgow 15/10/2008 15:05:16
"11 Brian the Barbarian.,unemployed granton chav land 15/10/2008 14:53:48"


Just think how much bigger scotchlands public sector will be when all those RBS and HBOS staff are moved from private sectors to public sector!

And by the way , Yorkshire and the Humber with the same size population as scotchland, manages to employ 100,000 fewer public sector workers , 480,000 as against 580,000 in scotchland..
14

Alan B,

15/10/2008 15:54:16
#4

If you do not devolve economic powers then you can hardly blame the devolved administration.
15

Alan B,

15/10/2008 15:58:53
#Ugly George

And Norways unemployment is 2%.

Using the EU average is misleading as it includes all those eastern european countries aswell as the poorer meditarian countries.

In truth though Scotland unemployment level is ok. The problem is more round the availability of quality skilled jobs rather than the low end jobs.

You cannot really blame any government for a rise of unemployment at this time as that is what you get with an economic cycle particularly when the global situation is poor. Although Browns short termist polcies mean that we will have a much deeper recession and get hit much harder than we should.
16

Alan B,

15/10/2008 16:01:52
#Elephant

"As for your company having English managers, what does it matter if it brings success?"

There is no problem with english managers working in Scotland. There is however issues with having management based in England of all Scottish companies. It tends to means jobs and decisions are taken down south and over a period of time that can be detrimental to scotland. It is important to have headquarters and decision making in Scotland. What nationiality they are working in scotland matters less.
17

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 17:45:41
15 Alan B
"Using the EU average is misleading as it includes all those eastern european countries aswell as the poorer meditarian countries".

Surely you have to accept that you cannot have it both ways. You have frequently quoted stats a host of other European countries as a comparison to Scotland to illustrate your assertion that Scotland has suffered in being part of the UK . Now when the comparison illustrates something else you dismiss it as "misleading". There has to be some consistency.
18

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 15/10/2008 17:55:48
On radio today. Gordon Brown was asked about the unemployment figures, er No Comment says Broon. Well another Union benefit i suppose. You aint seen nothing yet wait till all the Scottish Bank jobs go and they will, its just that Broon has done a deal on timing. Gordon Brown The Anti-Scot
19

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 18:27:27
18 Westfield Bairns
"Gordon Brown The Anti-Scot"

Is that so? If he is so anti-Scottish why has he put in £30bn or so to bail out two banks which we are told are Scottish?
20

Alan B,

15/10/2008 18:49:19
#Ugly George

Excuse my UG I have never compared Scotland to eastern european countries nor to the poorer meditarian countries.

I have always compared Scotland to the north/western european countries. (sometimes include italy as one of the big four, but it was wealthier than the uk at one point).

The specific countries I compare Scotland to are

Luxembourg, Norway, Ireland, Switzerland, Iceland, Netherlands,Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Finland , Belgium

aswell as the big four of Germany, France, UK and Italy. (who all have a higher gpd per capita than the big 4).

There is simply no point in comparing scotland to Poland, Latvia, Slovakia etc as it tells us nothing. They are significantly poorer because of Soviet rule.
21

Alan B,

15/10/2008 18:54:18
#Ugly George

A much better comparison would be with the old EEC 10 and the scandanavian countries.

I am at a loss to understand why you think comparing ourselves to eastern european countries tells us much.

My aim for scotland is to have a job market than means scots can stay in scotland and earn good money comparable to other countries and enjoy the living standards of these countries. As such i will compare scotland with western countries.

I see no benefit in say we are have done well because we have outperformed Bulgaria etc.
22

Alan B,

15/10/2008 18:57:19
#Ugly George

Also if you read my post you will see i did say employment stats for Scotland were quite good. It was the quality of the jobs that i was more concerned with.

You did not comment on that point which i think is much more relevent. (As we do have a decent level of job participation in scotland. But so many are low skilled and low paid.)
23

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 15/10/2008 18:59:57
19
Small rebate of the cash Scotland has been propping up the UK over the last 30 years. Also conscensus politics finished as soon as Broon opened his mouth in his stage managed interview last night. As i said Gordon Brown The Anti-Scot
24

JayDeeTee,

15/10/2008 19:19:49
The total will be 19001 after the Glenrothes By Election. Guess who the 1 will be.
25

ThePeter,

Glasgae 15/10/2008 21:08:44
God a lot of the comments above are the unacceptable face of Scottish nationalism.

England to blame etc etc

Grow up my fellow Scots (who are genetically no different to the English), smell the coffee etc etc
26

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 21:42:33

Basically, the whole Country is in turmoil at this point of time, not just Scotland, this winter is looking bleak for the majority of us, and we will all have to make major changes in what we spend money on, prices will drastically fall, as they are doing now, food and today petrol under £1.00 pl.

The only ones who will benefit, are those who have an abundance of money at this present time, unemployment will rise, as the recession deepens.
27

JayDeeTee,

15/10/2008 22:12:31
#27. Charles...that's a decent post from you and such a change from your usual format.

DYW been teaching you?
28

BorderLineScottish,

15/10/2008 22:41:32
Here we go again. it seems like every discussion on these boards gets turned into an anti-English or anti Union rant!!!

I worked with plenty of Scots in Manchester and we got on famously. Warm, friendly people who loved their homeland but would never go back.

I tried it. Beautiful Scotland, friendly people - huge chip on the shoulder and soooo negative!!! Glad I left.


Speaking of over opinionated exiles - where's Nevsky?!?!?
29

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 15/10/2008 22:48:45
26, ThePeter, you mean wake up and smell the tea?

29, BorderLineScottish. My Experience of ex-pats is that the majority support an independent Scotland. Apart from the ones in England. Those that do are closet.
30

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 15/10/2008 22:58:36
29
I think you'll find it's mostly Unionists that bring up the English. England Our best friends,biggest trading partner, shared defence etc and that is in a future Independent scotland. Why does England not have a Parliament, shouldn't they have the same rights as the rest of the UK. This hasn't gone unoticed down South. Scotlands problem has always been the same Scotch Minnions doing down their country. What has England deserved to have Broon,Darling etc foisted on them
31

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 15/10/2008 23:02:53

JayDeeTee ~28,

No DYW has not been teaching me, infact she is non-to-well at the present time, as our economy is also.
This is the reason of my more mature serious side, never before have I seen things looking soo bleak, not a good sign the stockmarkets not picking up, and these unemployment figures out today will deepen the anxiety's further.
Kidd-you-not, everything is looking real bad, some I know are brushing it aside, maybe they are in denial, not I however.
32

Chaplin,

16/10/2008 06:53:04
It has always amazed me that we have so many unemployed when there are so many immigrants flooding in to do any job going.

 

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