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Dundee Utd 3 - 0 Hearts: Hearts pay heavy price to end woeful week



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Published Date: 29 September 2008
AFTER a week during which Hearts blamed the late payment of their staff on nothing more than a behind-the-scenes error, the Edinburgh side were comprehensively outfought and outplayed at Tannadice.
As manager Csaba Laszlo freely admitted after this horror show, uppermost in many minds will be whether the payroll problem had an effect on his players. "This is the question everybody will be asking but we are sportsmen and don't think about this,"
he said.

"In the first half we played good football for 20 minutes and then I have to appreciate a fantastic free kick. Their second goal killed our spirit and discipline before we lost an unlucky third. But we must learn from this and move on."

Having made an impressive start to the SPL season, thanks largely to a perfect record at Tynecastle, Hearts suffered their third league loss on the road and rarely looked like taking anything from this encounter.

The delayed payment of wages, which finally arrived in staff accounts on Friday, provides a degree of context. However, to only concentrate on this issue would be to pay a massive disservice to Dundee United, whose turnaround has been as immediate as it has been effective, with three victories now recorded within eight days.

It was apt that the poor soul delivered for media attention by the visitors was goalkeeper Marian Kello, who ensured United held only a one-goal lead at half-time but was powerless to prevent any of the home side's three strikes.

Kello was adamant that the lack of pay had not hindered Hearts' preparations and instead concluded he and his team-mates had simply been second best. "We don't think about money, only the game, and our opponents played much better than we did."

United might have been ahead as early as the second minute, with John Daly, who missed the midweek CIS Cup victory over Airdrie United due to the birth of his daughter, heading a Craig Conway corner against the crossbar from close range.

Kello bravely denied Sean Dillon as the full-back bore in on goal and then somehow arched to fingertip away Scott Robertson's backward header before saving a low drive from Conway as United threatened to run riot.

United are now a different proposition to the side that spent much of last season with a five-man midfield and a sole striker. With an array of forwards to choose from, manager Craig Levein has achieved recent success with a dual strikeforce and one man less in the centre of the park.

Typically, a team requires width and pace to make such a formation work and it is noteworthy that United's revival has coincided with the return of Conway from injury.

The winger was not exactly "untouchable" given that he was bundled to the floor at almost every opportunity, a tactic which would eventually cost Hearts defender Eggert Jonsson his place on the pitch and ensure United played out the final quarter of an hour with a numerical advantage.

The only surprise was that United's opener did not come from a Conway cross but from an outstanding free kick, the likes of which have been missing from the Tannadice armoury since Barry Robson departed for Parkhead in January. A rash challenge by Michael Stewart earned Conway a sight of goal six minutes before the break and Kello could only watch a wicked effort from 25 yards whistle into his top corner.

"We've not scored a free kick since Barry left and it's great to get that monkey off our backs," said Conway, who will be nursing a bruise or two but nevertheless displayed an impressive determination to bounce back to his feet. "I'm sore all over but that's part of the game, especially in my position. It's not nice but it's a sign that they can't handle you."

Morgaro Gomis almost added a second moments later but saw his powerful long-range drive clip the crossbar. Conway was ably abetted on the opposite flank by Willo Flood, who supplied Daly with the perfect end to his week, the Irishman neatly finishing past Kello five minutes after the restart to effectively end any hopes of a Hearts revival.

Quite simply, Hearts were posing no threat to the United goal, guarded manfully by a defence which has now recorded three clean sheets in succession. The introduction of Hearts strikers Mike Tullberg and Christian Nade had little impact.

It was only a matter of time before goal number three arrived, though there did appear to be an element of good fortune for United as an attempted clearance by Christos Karipidis from a Conway free kick only found the head of the impressive Robertson and the back of the Hearts net.

The clock was also ticking for Jonsson who, having already been booked for a foul on Conway, committed the folly once more and referee Dougie McDonald duly produced the red card.

One bright spark for Hearts arrived far too late, with Saulius Mikoliunas rattling a post with a low drive across goal.





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1

Radge Roberto,

Punditry HQ 29/09/2008 02:36:42
Pundit - if your out there - a good win to rangers - not the walkover you suggested - but a clear cut case of taking your chances - I did buy a hat so that in the event it was the walkover you suggested I would eat it -but I thankfully I'll just wear it instead. If the cap fits and all that.

Apologies for rasing this on the Arabs and Jambos thread - it's just that we're not to be trusted whilst talking about rangers, hibs, celtic, gary glitter etc.
2

Daillyman,

29/09/2008 02:45:21
Hibs/Gers thread is open, at this time.
3

Daillyman,

29/09/2008 03:45:03
5

its still open.
4

Daillyman,

29/09/2008 04:03:32
Gers/Hibs thread in SPL section is still open for posts, I just checked.
5

Daillyman,

29/09/2008 04:07:58
7

You have been black balled.
6

Championees,

The Emerald City 29/09/2008 04:21:22
Brian leave bto alone he'll wash them when he's good and ready!

I see you had a good weekend results/points wise, I came on the threads on Friday to enquire if K M was fit to play and was informed by jerrymanders (I think)that he wasn't, I had him down for first goal and had to change it to Boyd, Bummer!

4 In a row coming your way!
7

Championees,

The Emerald City 29/09/2008 04:42:24
bto it's not for the result they got, I think it was the marathon defence of their club on these threads this past week that'll keep them away..
8

Championees,

29/09/2008 04:47:37
Ahead of who, pun?
9

Championees,

29/09/2008 04:50:35
I just checked your talking about georgiesfinest your both on the same points (draw), your pal pun is ahead of you
10

Championees,

29/09/2008 04:52:36
Brians doing well, looks like he's the one to chase.
11

Championees,

29/09/2008 04:57:21
It's not as easy as you would think, my head and heart do a battle every week, hoping your lot drops points and then I put them down for a win, killer.
12

Harlem Tam,

29/09/2008 05:22:26
bto - I only gained 6 points at the weekend and only jumped a handful of places. Are you confusing me with someone else in the Predictor?
13

Harlem Tam,

29/09/2008 05:24:17
Last week you said I had no points when I was sitting on 12.
14

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 29/09/2008 05:31:16
Bto, If you don't take us to win then your using your heart, try the head for awhile and I'm confident that your tally will grow, just as our points grow.

We are the reigning champions after all!

4 In a row coming your way............have to take care of some bills goodnight.
15

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 29/09/2008 05:37:23
Bto it's 1.40 in Tokyo shouldn't you be at work fixing the economy or something?
16

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 29/09/2008 05:38:03
1.40pm.
17

Talk o' the Toun,

29/09/2008 07:54:01
#23 HT BTO is simply confused(as opposed to confusiny you with someone else)

BTO:plenty of comment saturday/sunday on hearts game(incl a wee Q&A session with Moira Gordon. In summary the above report accurately sums up HEARTS performance;well beaten by a vey good DU side.

Would not get too exited about rangers win as i felt Hibs gifted the goals.However still a good 3 points.

As for the predictor....your lowly position says it all.
18

Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 29/09/2008 07:58:15
Please Hibsman that was last weeks non story about wages,let it go for gods sake.Hope you find something new to take up.
Still I suppose it worked you managed to aid your red top mates in Glasgow by destabalising the good run we were on.Im not saying we would have won but you didnt help.
I heard the press breiffing on the web on Friday and all they wanted to talk about is pay pay pay.I take my hat off to our manager who delt with it with in a good manner,the same can not be said of the press scvm.
19

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/09/2008 08:26:18
#32. Are we? From discussions after recent defeats we are blaming the fact that we were poor last year and didn't invest in any strikers.

Vlad is still at fault at hearts for this and there are very few fans of any intelligence blaming the press. Jambo Dave above hopefully just having a paranoid morning???
20

busbyfh,

29/09/2008 08:27:40
HEY

Weegies

and

pseudo Weegies

It's implied that an article is open that you lot of slime can appropriately post to , other than riddling this section with your mind numbing krap.

On OUR matters - four away games played and one win against the "supposed" worst team in the league. Three defeats out of four means that our away form is back to being poor. This is where a decent manager changes formation/personnel/game plan/mindset as to turn away form around - Over to you Casbah - something needs tweaked and your just the man - WE HOPE.
21

Addie,

29/09/2008 08:32:40
I just realised I had the chance to ask Moira Gordon to open up the OF threads on Sunday - bvgger! The Hearts threads wouldnt be saturated in the bile from the usual suspects.

Onto the Hearts game - which is what the story is about - we were outplayed by a decent Dundee Utd side who are finding their form. Didnt expect to win up there to be honest but didnt expect to lose 3-0 either. Im only concerned about our home form this season. If we make Tynie a difficult place to visit, then we will have improved drastically from last season. I wish the players would stop talking about Europe etc - there's nothing wrong with a bit of ambition, but we need to crawl before we walk.
22

Addie,

29/09/2008 08:41:47
#39 If you are intent on making comments associated with a person with the reading age of 7, then why not read and comment on the Daily Rioter instead.

Away you go now, nothing here for you.
23

hibbyspurs,

29/09/2008 08:51:51
Thanks to the OF bile spouters it seems I'm unable to comment on yesterdays game at ER.

Rangers took there chances whilst Hibs didnt and the Hibs defence was pretty woeful although for the most part I would have given Jones pass marks.

Shiels had a shocker and throughout the team there was a lack of creativity and movement on and off the ball eventually resulting in Hibs launching the ball up the park in the main. I'm starting to question seriously if Mixu's the man we need now.

Hibs were VERY lucky two weeks ago against Dundee Utd at home (although I still maintain that the fighting spirit showing towards the end was very good) and I fully expected Hearts to be given a hard time up there although I was surprised that youse lost 3-0 TBH.

All in all a very poor weekend for both Edinburgh clubs, I wouldnt have expected Hearts to lose by such a wide margin and Hibs should never capitulate 3-0 at home to anybody in the SPL.
24

Who?,

29/09/2008 09:12:50
All the game on saturday confirmed (if it were ever in doubt) that dundee utd are commanding at home and hearts struggle away.

Even during their bad start dundee utd defied the odds by taking a point at home against a celtic team who cheated constantly and had the referee and linesman making very dodgy decisions in their favour. If dundee utd don't finish 3rd then they will not be very far away.

For hearts the first milestone is top 6 when the split takes place and anything from that is a bonus. Laszlo has improved the attitude of the squad but he really needs his forward players to start playing.

Bring on the killie...
25

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

Denmark 29/09/2008 09:14:04
I think the Hearts fans need to ask themeselves one question: Is the season over already? If the answer to that is yes, then start the process of removing Romanov. The sooner Hearts do this the better. I must confess that I seen Romanov as a good thing for Hearts and Scottish football as a whole. I must admit my mistake. However, I'm a Celtic fan, so I'm not exactly cryingin my cornflakes over the plight of the Old Edinburgh club.
.
26

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

29/09/2008 09:15:42
#39 Eh? flats coming from a weegie where substandard housing is the norm thats brilliant.
27

Addie,

29/09/2008 09:19:33
#43 Why would the season already be over because we lost at Tannadice?

I take it you thought Man Utd's season was over this time last year as well when they were in the bottom half?

Its far too early to comment on any teams season at this stage.
28

Talk o' the Toun,

29/09/2008 09:22:16
#43 'Is the season over already'......that has to be the daftest question this season!
3rd place would be a major achiement after last years debacle. After 7 games we are 3rd.Outwith the OF ;we have won more games than anyone else.

Is Celtics season over due to the fact that you are not 1st/screwed up your 1st CL game?Maybe you should start the process of gettng rid of the wee ginger winger. But then again I'm a Hearts fan so i'm not exactly 'cryingin my cornflakes' either.

29

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

Denmark 29/09/2008 09:23:51
Just scanning the daily rags and this one caught my eye. There used to be a Hearts fan who'd come on here and seemed obsessed by 'Glasgow's rat' problem. For want of a dsecent footballinga arguement, he relied heavily on this as some sort of crutch. However, whats this I read in the Day Late Retard:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/09/29/exclusive-edinburgh-hit-by-plague-of-rats-86908-20759309/

Quite amusing, I'm sure you'll all agree!
30

Addie,

29/09/2008 09:23:58
#45 You forgot something - SDM chose Rangers after he was knocked back by Ayr Utd. Rangers - Second the Best - to Ayr Utd. Wonder how many glory hunters would be going by the bus load to Somerset Park if they accepted his bid?

Now, away you go wee lassie, Im not humouring you any more.

31

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

29/09/2008 09:26:31
48 - Mate, you need to compare the fortunes of our two teams. Hearts really should be doing better! Theres no hope of you lot ever changing things if you act like this in the face of some valid but constructive criticism.
32

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

29/09/2008 09:27:07
#47 Yes you sound exactly like you come from Dorset what with your wonderful grammatical style. LOL
33

Addie,

29/09/2008 09:29:01
#52 Living in Dorset, can you confirm that you have webbed feet?
34

Who?,

29/09/2008 09:29:35
45- Murray is technically broke- he and his companies (rangers included) owe £100's of millions to hbos. Lloyds tsb are currently evaluating the debt owed by Murray with a view to calling it in.

Rangers themselves are £100m in debt with no tangible assets that can pay it off. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
35

Addie,

29/09/2008 09:30:31
#52 Did you marry your sister?
36

Addie,

29/09/2008 09:31:04
#52 Do you play a banjo and originate from Larkhall?
37

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

29/09/2008 09:44:21
55 - Being a Celtic fan, this - were it to be true -would be quite funny to me. However, there is too much amateur accountancy going on in these threads. I'm sure if you have more info - and I'm not demanding actual facts that would stand up in court of law(this is a forum FFS - then even RFC TMSFCITW would like to hear more about it. Plus, you may be able to fill us in on the Hearts financial situation if you are 'in the know' on these things?

That would certainly make for some topical discussion?
38

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

29/09/2008 09:45:54
#58 RFC-the most violent supporters in the world.

Make up your mind. One minute its Murray has ripped the Rioters apart and creamed off all the money for himself; the next its Murray has staked his personal fortune on the club.
39

Talk o' the Toun,

29/09/2008 09:48:26
#51 there is no comparison re the fortunes of our two teams;why is that relavant? Agree Hearts should be doing better.But are you seriously suggesting that the start to the season merits writing this season off when we are sitting in 3rd place(ie a realistic aspiration for this season)?
Maybe i could have been more polite....no i do not agree.

40

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

29/09/2008 09:57:16
61 - I suppose my post could have been interpeted as 'inflammatory' however, what I meant was that, I see Hearts as a team that should be pushing both Glasgow teams for the CL berths. Third place in Scotland doesnt usually mean a close run thing - it can be 20 or 30 points off of second. In that respect, I don't see Hearts as keeping pace with the big two again this season. Be glad to be proved wrong - trust, me I really would - but I don't see it and fromt hat respect, I see Romanov as an obstacle to Hearts progress.

41

Talk o' the Toun,

29/09/2008 10:05:58
#62 fair enough.... unfortunatly there is little chance of HEARTS pushing the OF this season.However this has to be considered taking our starting point(ie last years shambles) into account.
Conviently ignoring any 'global economy' and or 'VR interference' impact on Hearts i think over the next three years we can come closer as i believe there is a superb group of young players coming through.
Appreciate the fact that you recognise that it is in the OF's interest to have other teams competing with them. If(big if) Hearts,hibs,aberdeen,Dundee utd,M'well etc could all get it together in one season and have a go at the OF there would be a chance of breaking the monopoly.
Respect the fact that your post is constructive .Makes a pleasant change from the bull we get from your ugly sisters.
42

the beast,

London 29/09/2008 10:08:24
Don't mention Hinge and Bracket!!
43

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

29/09/2008 10:10:43
thanks. When O'Neill left Celtic, I never expected Strachan to win the league in his first season with the rebuilding job he had on his hands and I felt that for the good of the game, Hearts winning it would have been fantastic. If another team were to be exposed to the CL revenue then, who knows what kind of exciting league we could have now. However, every teams fate is in its own hands and fortune favours those bold enough to grab it by the chuckies and manouver it to their favour - I think thats what Machiavelli said anyway - and from that persepctive Hearts missed a great opportunity over the last couple of years to change the face of the game in our country.
44

Addie,

29/09/2008 10:11:12
#58 Come on answer my questions young laddie
45

walter,

29/09/2008 10:36:13
AFTER a week during which Hearts blamed the late payment of their staff on nothing more than a behind-the-scenes error,
Well if it was not as you seem to be insinuating maybe the Scotsman could find out just what was the problem.
The Guardian reported the other day that they were told from a Hearts official that the problem was the money had been transferred into the wrong account.
Maybe the Scotsman could investigate this and if you find it to be true report it, then again maybe not it would not make as good reading as insinuating something more sinister.
46

busbyfh,

29/09/2008 10:36:43
# 65

If Machiavelli's sentiment was such - I'm sure he said "chuckies" in an italian accent.
47

NiallTTC,

Tain, Scotland 29/09/2008 10:36:52
A tremendous result for United, considering their recent form.

Great goal from Conway, and a good spirited performance from the whole team. Dixon seems to make a good difference at the back.

Support United at:
http://www.thetangerineclub.co.uk/forum
48

Talk o' the Toun,

29/09/2008 10:46:27
#69 agree but young Conway guilty of blatant simulation on more than one occasion. Time for Scotlands refs/media/fans to realise this is not a MIKO only issue. DARCHEVILLE blatantly guilty of same yesterday twice at least. Ref waved play on but did not book him.Whereas they are off like olympic sprinters to book any Lith player.


##had no effect on the game UTD were at least 3 goals better than Hearts and look a very good outfit.
49

Maroon tinted glasses,

29/09/2008 11:22:36
Poor result for the jamobo's on saturday but at least we can pass comment on it, just a shame that the hoobs cant do the same about their poor result all because they played one of the great unwashed and all sites involving the west coast scum get banned from comment.

Rankers they truly are the scum of scotland!! (cellic arent much better either)
50

Naeboz,

29/09/2008 11:27:36
It was all getting a bit surreal on here last night with Moira Gordon, Addie, TOTT and Serg all chatting away.

Weird, but interesting.

P.S. SCOTSMAN EDITOR

Please can you give the OF fans a place that they can chat as they merely spoil all other non-old firm threads.
51

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

29/09/2008 11:28:28
71 - RFC, but the riches on offer now dwarf that, you have to admit? The millions that are on offer from even an unsuccessful stint in the CL would surely be very useful to any scottish sides ambitions. You know how desperate either of our clubs are to get it!
52

Jurgen Harbourmaster,

29/09/2008 11:29:43
73 - Naeboz, you've got naeboz if you don't think you're up to the task of argueing with your superiors...;-)
53

Talk o' the Toun,

29/09/2008 11:46:08
Naeboz:credit to Moira for being brave enough to come on. Can you see Bathgate doing the same?
54

Naeboz,

29/09/2008 12:06:13
ToTT

Agreed. Good on you Moira.

Would Bathgate do the same? Don't get me started!
55

Addie,

29/09/2008 12:45:24
#78 Is that how you talk in Dorset? Oh dear.

Talking of 'f'annies' in Europe - have you been to Kaunas lately?
56

Daillyman,

29/09/2008 12:49:46
78

Try posting something that the readers might be interested in, do actually believe that rubbish that you post?

You are the answer to Idee the tic poster, a sad reflection on each teams supporters.
57

Jambo-ree,

29/09/2008 12:53:11
Funny old weekend - we get gubbed fair ansquare and stay 3rd - Hibs loose by a similar score and drop down to 6th.

Complete contrast to last season where we were dreadful at home and did OK on the road.

You'd have thought the non-payment of wages would have been a dead duck by now but, no, yet another 3 mentions in this article.
58

Jim Baxter,

Alicante 29/09/2008 12:59:11
Well after that display against Dundee United I would not be surprised if wages are missing this week again. Its little wonder the players did not complain last week as 50 per cent are not up to Premier League standard. A clear out in January is required and new front men brought into the Club. Mole, Nade, Kingston etc. are taking wages for doing NOTHING on the park,its little wonder the likes of Stewart gets booked he must be Pis??? off playing with these guys week in week out.Csaba with a better group of players would do a first class job for us.
59

Addie,

29/09/2008 13:01:01
#81 I thought that. Hobos playing REARangers I had down for a draw but was satisfied with the result as it kept us third even if the shame of Scotland won.

As long as the home form is fine, Im sure Csaba can now rethink his tactics on the road, we can gather some points on our travels.

Non payment of wages you say? First I heard of it! Any hoboeconomists out there to shed some light?

60

Addie,

29/09/2008 13:04:07
#82 Bit harsh considering we are third mate! Mole has come leaps and bounds this season compared to before. He is up front on his own and is clearly not an out and out striker. Although he was complete and utter 5hite on Satuarday though!

Food for thought - Livi's got a right goalgetter on their hands in the form of Callum Elliott. Starting to wonder what he would have been like under Csaba. Would he have improved like Mole has shown signs of?

61

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

29/09/2008 13:13:56
#84 or has elliot has found his level? 1st division standard....
if he had shown any sort of sttitude he would have a better goals to game ratio for hearts...but he didnt...it was awful! as was his attitude.

if he comes back with the attitude that he has to work hard to be a pro footballer and not a prima donna then great.

considering the hammerings we took from utd last season not entirely unexpected. lets just keep looking for an improvement on last season and by all accounts. it still is. as long as our away form picks up in a couple of weks time i'll be happy!
62

Addie,

29/09/2008 13:20:38
#85 Good point - I just find the chimp really frustrating as he runs around like a headless chicken. He has some talent - no doubt, but as you said he has attitude to boot. I just think Csaba would have knocked that out of him as Csaba doesnt strike me as someone who puts up with all that.
63

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

29/09/2008 13:36:42
#86 yeah csaba would have knocked him out never mind knocked it out of him!!!

i just think he played well against celtic and has been living of his rep from that game ever since, thinking he has made it and he is a first team player...but that takes effort and work, which he clearly showed he had no interest in doing that! hands thrown up looking to the sky, silly sendings off, absolute no goal threat (for a striker think you should at least have a wee bit!!)

i have had a distain for him since i read a quote from his time at loan to motherwell that it was a long, hard day etc cause he sometimes didnt get home until 4!
the poor wee soul i thought, doing a job that about 95% of males want to do and its tough cause he doesnt get home until 4!
to me that says alot about the guys attitude...

he might have some ability but its nothing without a brain to use it!!!
64

Addie,

29/09/2008 14:13:13
#87 He's a silly wee boy who has probably never had to work a full day in his life, so the get home at 4 remark I can excuse and put it down to nievity.

It annoys me that he has some form of talent, but cant deliver the goods due to his own arrogance especially when we are crying out for a goal scorer up front.
65

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/09/2008 14:18:03
Just when you think it's over, it ain't over.
It was hammer time for Mad Vlad on the dodgy Baltic Stock Exchange again today.
The Ukio Bankas stock went into free fall right at the bell. When the dust settled it had spiraled from 1.86 to hit bottom at 1.59 LTLs. (I haven't a clue what that means 'cause I don't recognize any currency that doesn't have an L or S by it)
129,000 shares on the day. Almost all punter bailing out except for a 24,950 block.
The exchange calls it a 12 drop on the day.
The Vladster owns 64 million shares according to bank records.
That's gotta hurt.
How long before this whole house of cards comes tumbling down and the For Sale signs go up at Tynie?
66

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/09/2008 14:19:48
That should be a 12% drop on the day. And that ain't good.
67

i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

29/09/2008 14:30:08
#88 yeah thats something like it. thinks he doesnt have to try that he is good enough just to turn up...
if he comes back and shows a change in attitude then great but i fear if he scores alot he will come back with exactly the same attitude and an expectation he should be an immediate starter...time will tell.

#89 here we go....i dont know, how long? come on...you tell us given that you are an expert on Vlads finances!! how many days have we left?

as for what all that actually means for HEARTS i am not too sure you know either so why bother. you might think you look smart listing share prices on the baltic stock exchnage but unless you can tell me exactly when hearts are going bust from the info above...i dont want to read it...its boring.....this is a FOOTBALL blog!!!!
68

Jim Baxter,

Alicante 29/09/2008 14:35:55
84, Addie I admit to not seeing Mole play but listening to all the Hearts games on the computer where we have Gary Mckay talking about the game etc, it was so bad on Sat. past I switched the computer off. Mole has come on leaps and bounds but how many goals has he scored this season and thats what wins games. If he is not a striker then he should not be selected to play up front on his own, every game I have listened to he has been rubbish. Another tough game on Sat.lets hope for a change of fortune and we grab a couple of goals at least.
69

Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 29/09/2008 14:37:44
90/Ambulance chaser tell me where the stocks are rising and Im there.If it happens it happens whats it to you?What do want Hearts fans to say or do,oh wait mo you think were going start crying.Get a life theres not a thing anybody can do,now go away.
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Addie,

29/09/2008 15:02:00
#92 I fully agree that Mole shouldnt be up front on his own but think he would be fairly effective with a partner. Hopefully Tullberg is the real deal but lets watch this space and keep our fingers crossed.

#88 Must admit, I didnt think that the goals Clum scores may well result in his head getting bigger. Probably best leaving the wee daft laddie at Livi instead! lol

#90 Neil, could you help me please? I have to admit I have the good fortune of making a wee lunp sum lately - not life changing or anything - but could you advise me on where to put it? You seem like the type of guy who knows their stuff. I bet your a millionaire with all your knowledge on finance! WOW!!!

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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/09/2008 15:05:11
#'s 91, 93 94

Just like Cleopatra, you lads are the Queens of de-Nile.
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i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

29/09/2008 15:09:39
#95 im not denying anything!!
apart from i have no idea what your information means for HEARTS. not any of vlads other business or himself...HEARTS. i have no idea what effect this has on us therefore....
i asked YOU what all of the share info YOU printed above means for HEARTS FC. if you dont know why did you print it??

so....how long have we left..days, weeks, years??
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thepundit,

29/09/2008 15:26:05
dundee utd have much better players than hearts so the result wasnt suprising at all
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/09/2008 15:31:18
Tynie, Hearts and Mad Vlad's bank are connected at the hip. The SPL club is not being operated as an arm's length operation.
Thus the paycheques horse sh!t last week. The share price of the bank, I suspect, is the financial underpinning of everything else. The visible asset that gives the Vladster fiscal credibility. And the punters are bailing out. 12% in a day is a massive hit to the bottom line.
Hearts is already leveraged to the eyeballs. And the Saturday afternoon cash flow appears to go directly to Lithuania for purposes we don't know. It was clear today that Romanov's market maker can no longer hold the share price at 1.97, which was the line in the sand last week.
When the value of your bank drops nearly 20% in two trading days, that's serious baby. Could you personally take a $24 million hit? Because that's what it appears Vlad just got stung with.
That's what this is really all about.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

29/09/2008 15:32:33
Guys, ignore the copy-and-pasters, Hearts will be out of business by the end of today if you believe some people.

Neil - I can't say for sure as I don't have time to check (because I've got a job to do), but I can quite confidently say that every stock market in the world is on a downward trend at the moment. You might get intra- or sometimes even inter-day upward movement but the trend is downwards in every single case (I believe).

If (and it's a mighty big if) Hearts do go to the wall it will be the start of something much bigger and much more depressing, so grow up and stop wishing ill for others. You might just get what you wish for.

Besides, even if the club did go bust (I honestly don't think it will unless the whole global economy goes into meltdown, sending us all back to the Dark Ages), Hearts would continue to exist in one form or another and still get a good support. Ain't going to happen though, no matter how much you hope it will.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

29/09/2008 15:36:19
And Neil, if you want to sound like you've got the first clue about finance, don't equate a drop in share price to the bottom line. A fundamental mistake that shows you up to be a complete hoboconomist.

Besides, HBOS shares fell from £11-odd last April to less than £2 today. Does that mean that profits have been cut by the same ratio? No.

You're dribbling.......
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Waspy100,

29/09/2008 15:44:04
#78
And the most bigotted. The scum who post here must have a collective IQ of 10
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i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

29/09/2008 15:45:23
well that all depends on how much personal wealth i had, at the moment $24 million would leave me short on pocket change ;o)

i appreciate what your saying but actaully the investor in hearts isnt ukio bankas its UBIG and so im not so sure that the bank is the financial underpinning. and to be honest i havent a clue. i didnt before romanov came along...still dont now.....all your doing is guessing and speculating so why bother to post things like "How long before this whole house of cards comes tumbling down and the For Sale signs go up at Tynie?"

and if you dont know how many days we have left given your financial analysis then how am i meant to know!!!

so what about all the clubs whos debts are held by HBOS? do you know whats happening there?
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thepundit,

29/09/2008 15:56:12
#102

aye, but how many clubs are EMPLOYED by hbos?

thats the difference
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Addie,

29/09/2008 16:01:05
Neil, you are a really boring individual. Go and read up on finaince and economics properly and then come back to us. In fact post your comments around midnight when the likes of Puntit are on who might care.

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Neil Waugh,

Ols Strathcona 29/09/2008 16:01:23
#102

Err...HBOS was bust and went through a shotgun marriage ceremony brokered by Broon on the eve of his party convention. Basically to save his @ss. Which, of course, didn't work but it bought him a little time until his Glenrothes final curtain.
UBIG's biggest credible asset, I suspect, is Mad Vlad's crumbling bank.
I guess the Lithuanian government could bail him out. Seems to be flavor of the month these days.
But being a Ruskie could complicate things.
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Addie,

29/09/2008 16:03:04
#103 Employed by HBOS? What are you on about?
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Addie,

29/09/2008 16:04:36
#105 Key word in your text Neil - 'suppose'. If you guess what Mad Vlad's biggest asset is then how can you possibly know anything about the future of shares in the organisation?
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LyonHearts,

le teil 29/09/2008 16:08:27
WE'RE STILL THIRD IN THE SPL DESPITE A SHOCKING RESULT!

I don't know what it is about Dundee Utd, but they seem to thrash us off the park every time we play them!

MON THE HEARTS
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Jambo-ree,

29/09/2008 16:09:58
#105 Errrmmm think you'll find that HBoS (a) didn't go bust (they were and are one of the best capitalised and profitable banks in the UK) and (b) did not go through a shotgun marriage - at present they are only engaged to LloydsTSB and the marriage may/may not take place.

Showing up your lack of knowledge again old chum. By why let the facts get in the way of a good rant?
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thepundit,

29/09/2008 16:10:34
#104

agreed

neil should join the midnight crew

he would be a welcome addition
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Jambo-ree,

29/09/2008 16:11:17
#108 A real bogey team these days and as we all know it is possible to go 22 games against a team without ever beating them ;o)
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Jambo-ree,

29/09/2008 16:15:59
#110 - MIDNIGHT as in Moaning Individuals Despairing for Non-Information Gleaned on Hearts' Trading?
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Addie,

29/09/2008 16:17:59
#110 Your right there Diddles. Im having trouble sleeping right now - maybe if I gave you and Neil my phone number and you called me around midnight as soon as my head touches the pillow, that might work...
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thepundit,

29/09/2008 16:18:05
#112

midfnigoht?
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thepundit,

29/09/2008 16:19:43
#113

worth a try...

a wee nytol always does it for me though

maybe you should watch a re-run of the hearts game? that would send you to sleep...

infact, dont, that will give you nightmares
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i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

29/09/2008 16:21:31
#105 as 109 has stated to you, hbos didnt go bust, their shares took a severe pounding and the said marriage was arranged by the pm.

now you are drooling about drops in shares etc and how this is going to cause hearts to go bust....

well then if this is the case for hearts then i assume all the clubs in debt to hbos are in for just as rocky a ride...and so your postings are a case of selecting hearts out of...the world and make it out like we are the only ones in the s**t. think its you who should open your eyes!!

bto - as addie has rightly asked...employed by?????

people in glass houses and all that.......
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

29/09/2008 16:25:01
105 - frankly, and I can't put this any more politely, utter testes.

You've been reading too many tabloids if that's what you think.

More importantly, as I asked you earlier, please explain with your vast financial knowledge how a drop in the share price is a "big hit to the bottom line". You're talking out your backside.
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Jambo-ree,

29/09/2008 16:27:11
#114 - Only the capitalised words - RSPB = Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. Stop being pedantic.
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Addie,

29/09/2008 16:28:56
#118 He had you there mate lol.
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i wanna be like John Colquhoun,

29/09/2008 16:31:53
#118 that reminds me....I need to give the RSPB a phone. found quite a lot of t*ts on here, some of which i dont think have been identified....
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thepundit,

29/09/2008 16:31:54
#118

what you do in your own home is your business JR...

but domestic violence is wrong...
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Addie,

29/09/2008 16:33:15
#121 That was lame Diddles, very lame.

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thepundit,

29/09/2008 16:38:34
#122

so is vlads bank account...
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Addie,

29/09/2008 16:41:28
#123 How do you know that for a fact. And besides you ahavent answered my question on post 106
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Jambo-ree,

29/09/2008 16:44:13
#121 Even for a pedant that was bad.
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thepundit,

29/09/2008 16:45:29
#124

i dont know for a fact, im just guessing.... DOOMED ;-P

#106

hearts get paid by a bank

rangers and celtic, for example, get their wages put into a bank
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 29/09/2008 16:47:21
Rather than being a bunch of Clepoatras (see #95 for the joke)shouldn't the focus be on how do we get out of this mess?
Isn't that the duty of true Jambos? Mad Vlad has been poison since arriving at Tyncastle. The side is shambles. Little more than the reserves for his home club back in Balticville.
How do we get out of this debacle with some dignity?
And where the fvck is the SPL in all this?