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Trumptown and giant pylons among big deals in balance



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Published Date: 25 February 2008
THERE are several major planning applications currently being considered that have the potential to change the landscape and the economy of the country for ever.
The Trump golf proposal for Aberdeenshire is the most high profile of these.

Donald Trump wants to build what he describes as the "world's best" golf development on the Menie estate, complete with a five-star hotel with 450 bedrooms and nearly 1,0
00 timeshare apartments as well as 500 luxury homes.

The application does not conform with any of the local planning rules or strategies but it is being considered because such a massive development has the potential to bring significant economic benefits to the area.

The Trump development was backed by one committee on Aberdeenshire Council before being opposed by another.

Ministers then decided to call in the application and John Swinney, the finance secretary, is currently considering it.

The Beauly to Denny power line has proved just as controversial, but that is because of the scale of objections it has prompted.

Almost three years ago, Scottish Hydro Electric Transmission, a subsidiary of Scottish & Southern Energy (SSE), and SP Transmission, a subsidiary of ScottishPower, published the proposed route for a 400,000-volt overhead electricity transmission line to replace the 132,000-volt line between Beauly, west of Inverness, and Denny, west of Falkirk.

Since then, there has been a £10 million public inquiry into the 137-mile line, which would cost £350 million to erect.

The proposers say the line is crucial to take power from green energy developments in the Highlands and Islands to markets in the south.

However, opponents say it would involve some 600 huge pylons – each one 67 metres (200 ft) high – and these would ruin the natural beauty of the Great Glen.

No decision has been announced on this application.

The Lewis wind farm is another potentially huge development that is expected to be decided soon.

Lewis Wind Power (LWP) wants to build 176 turbines on Lewis in what would be the biggest onshore wind farm in Europe.

It would generate enough electricity to meet 11 per cent of Scotland's needs but it has also run into problems.

Ministers are making a final decision but they have already told the developer they are "minded to refuse" the development because of damage it would do to peat bogs in the area.

Another project to hit delays has been a plan to redevelop Aviemore by Macdonald Highland Resort.

This £80 million project has been in the pipeline, in some form, for six years, but was held up after concerns were raised by the Scottish Environment Protection Agency over possible flooding to local houses.





The full article contains 453 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 25 February 2008 12:40 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Donald Trump
 
1

Roberta Burns,

25/02/2008 01:31:16
"Trumpton does not conform with any of the local planning rules or strategies but it ... has the potential to bring significant economic benefits to the area." Yes, but for whom? Apart from short-term building work, the long terms is turning the Scots into a nation of a*se-lickin servants for the rich and powerful and the political lackeys.
2

Royster,

25/02/2008 03:53:34
#1. I agree totally - but that's the SNP vision. Salmond wants Scotland to get rid of the high tech jobs like those in nuclear power stations.
3

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25/02/2008 06:12:20
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James,

Dundee 25/02/2008 06:23:05
#3 Actually should be built where the is greatest potential for wind (no not Westminster)
That would be the Atlantic coast
5

jammy dodger,

Corstorphine 25/02/2008 07:33:57
#2 - Whats high tech about nuclear when the youngest station in Scotland is coming up to its 20th birthday?
6

Alex, Young Laird d' Drumchapel,

Madrid 25/02/2008 07:57:18
Ye've got to love unionists moaning about ruining the environment when they are gagging to have nuclear power stations on Scottish beauty spots...
7

Grahamski,

25/02/2008 08:15:59
Alex,
OK what beauty spots are planned to have nuclear stations built on them? I'm getting just a bit fed up with the lies spouted by the nationalist posters here and elsewhere.
If you can't substantiate your claims, withdraw them.
8

Dave from Barra ©,

Western Isles 25/02/2008 08:33:05
Actually James@4, Edinburgh city has the saem average wind speed as the whole of Denmark (Glasgow city is slightly higher).

Any gain found in siting them on the coast is almost immediatley lost in transferring the power to where it's really needed, Edinburgh City and Glasgow City, to name but a few cities of the UK.

The best answer is to have them built all over Edinburgh and Glasgow city, obviously, isn't it?
9

AJM,

25/02/2008 08:33:50
#3 Middle Watch
The SNP has said that Trumptown is vital to replace the jobs that will be lost when oil runs out for Aberdeen. So the vision is technical engineering ans allied project management skills are to be replaced by grass cutting and caddying. If you think that this development is going to replace the existing technical skills with equivalent, please tell us.
10

Nikostratos,

25/02/2008 08:40:19
#1
"world's best" golf development" no only a housing development.Although what with housing prices falling who knows if this Development will (A) be built (b) Have a change in the plans once Development has started. a favorite ploy of developers everywhere.Once they have got you by the b#lls.
11

Nikostratos,

25/02/2008 08:42:24
#9

"Fries with that sir" Welcome to Scotland sir "carry your bags for you sir!"...........
12

Dave from Barra ©,

Western Isles 25/02/2008 08:52:35
10 and 11

As apposed to what? "oh don't the dunes look lovely, oooh I saw an oyster cather"

"Aye, I'm feking starving and cold but have no job, is it ok to eat oyster catchers?"

The oil and gas will run out at some point, Golf is forever....
13

Steve,

Bo'ness 25/02/2008 08:53:33
Fine don't build the golf course, I don't care anymore. Trump can build this anywhere in the world. He CHOSE to build it here. Why do you reckon that is? Because there's more cash here than Florida, or Saudi?Maybe it's the climate!
Don't make me laugh.
Will it be good for Scotland? Of course it will, but we can't have Salmond taking credit for it can we? Oh no. McConnell-yes! Salmond -no! Lets smear him.

If it doesn't happen, prepare for a much deserved unionist wipeout in the north of Scotland. While your feeble parties pull out all the stops to smear the First Minister, all this investment looks likely to move over the Irish Sea. Well done guys. Result.
14

The Corbetteer,

Borders 25/02/2008 09:01:18
Edinburgh has some excellent sites for wind power, Arthurs Seat, Braid Hill, Blackford Hill, and where that castle thing is. This is a far more logical approach than spoiling beutiful hills up north, then errecting mega pylons through one of our national parks to transport that power to Edinburgh.
15

ignorant townie?,

Scotland 25/02/2008 09:15:58
#14 - or a couple on top of the Eildon Hills?...no one wants them in their back yard...

best place for them is the top of a managed grouse moor....any birds of prey being chopped up would be welcomed by the "land managers" who run them at present?...
16

 Ayrshire Scot™,

25/02/2008 09:17:21
7. Grahamski.

We already have them - they will be picking radioactive particles off the beaches around Dounreay for many years to come.

The UK government also proposed the Highlands of Scotland as an ideal site for a nuclear waste repository for all of the UK's nuclear waste, and, in a clever money making scheme, nuclear waste from all over the world. A plan largely defeated by the SNP. A plan you would no doubt have described as a job creating union dividend.
17

 Ayrshire Scot™,

25/02/2008 09:30:20
2. The SNP have proposed R&D credits, and lower corporate tax rates to attract higher value added inward investment, in R&D and corporate head quarters, as opposed to the mostly call centre branch economy investment largely attracted in the past 10 years.

It was the Uk governments delays which cost the North-east the carbon capture project, which Salmond campaigned long and hard for.

You usual pathetic, bilious output is almost meaningless, and of note only for its incredible hypocrisy given that Labour and McConnell courted this Trump investment (complete with helicopter tours and offers to put Scottish administration staff at Trump's disposal) and now are trying to wreck the same investment and snipe at its value.
18

TommyKaye,

UK 25/02/2008 09:33:54
Ian McCartney, the former Trade Minister, is paid £113,000 to advise the Fluor Corporation, which is bidding for a multi-million-pound nuclear waste contract.

Interesting isn't it ? This man could not string one sentence together and yet he is getting 113k no doubt because he has access.

Ah the founders of the labour party would be so proud of comitted socialists such as Mr mcCartney eh!
19

The Corbetteer,

Borders 25/02/2008 09:38:27
#15 - A bird of prey on a managed grouse moor, now you're in cloud cuckoo land.
20

AJM,

25/02/2008 09:42:53
#16 Ayrshire Scot
Being a bit selective, I think, as usual selecting snippets to suggest the UK government is anti Scotland and only the SNP can sort it.

There were several sites suggested throughout the UK and as Scotland has Nuclear power stations it included Scotland as well as England.

The preferred site as I recall was in Lincolnshire, which has not gone ahead. So the great SNP lead by Alex defeated a Lincolnshire proposal, I think not. Or did the SNP get the other areas turned down?
21

 Ayrshire Scot™,

25/02/2008 09:50:53
20. The proposal to dump nuclear waste from the USA, Germany and Japan (I am unaware of Scottish power stations in these countries) in the highlands of Scotland was defeated largely by SNP and local opposition to prevent test drilling by Nirex. Labour and the Tories of course defended the scheme as a "union dividend".
22

AJM,

25/02/2008 10:19:08
#21 There was strong local opposition all over the UK, as the SNP knew they were on a winner to object as they could portray it as bad ol' UK. The fact none of the sites has gone ahead would suggest that success had nothing to do with the SNP.
I think that this was a Tory proposal, so why try and brand it as something to do with Labour.
The current crop of decisions outlined above are starting to stack up for Swinney, governments have to sometimes make unpopular decisions, it is not something that the SNP are used to doing. Perhaps we will see the old kick it into the long grass decision on some of these, more information needed for the politician to make a decision.
23

 Ayrshire Scot™,

25/02/2008 10:31:42
22. The proposal for the Highlands could not be progressed when test drilling by Nirex was stopped.

Labour did not oppose the Tory plan.
24

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 10:35:24
Much better to take our time considering planning projects, unlike under Labour where the passing of a brown envelope could overcome any obstacle, legal or otherwise.Oh and don't worry "Triumphtown" will get the go ahead.
25

AyrshireScot™,

25/02/2008 10:50:25
Trumpgate has done more to blacken us once again with the old Tartan Tory image than anything! Planning is becoming our Achilles Heal: we’re now about as green as Trump himself and it’s not doing us any good at all! Our vote’s up in our North East heartland, but there slowly beginning to tumble what we’re about everywhere else.
26

Colin McDonald,

25/02/2008 11:05:05
Anyone know why we can't comment on the Martin stoy? As far as I'm aware there is no legal proceedings as yet, so I don't see why comment should be taboo....

Not that there will be any legal proceedings as he was "within the rules" according to Foulkes and co.

I don't doubt that they are right, though apparently it doesn't matter that what he has done (claiming costs where there are none of significance)amounts to fraud and theft, plain and simple. The labour party appears increasingly morally bankrupt with every passing day.
27

AJM,

25/02/2008 11:15:37
#24 Absolutely right, however I think that suggesting that it is a purely Labour sleaze issue is wrong. Any developer tries to get in thick with local councilors whatever persuasion. There are bad apples in all parties, Labour does not have the monopoly.

#25 I agree that Trumpgate is proving a hindrance, the key for you is whether Wendy can start and pick up the pieces. Please I am not inviting the usual anti Wendy tripe from the SNP trolls, I am trying to make a serious point.

I am not sure that she can, as I have yet to see anything that suggests that she can compete with AS. Her best course of action I think is to target the other Ministers, Swinney I find can look like he has not got a grasp of the issues and MacAskill is poor.

28

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25/02/2008 12:02:01
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Marvin the Martian,

25/02/2008 12:03:58
26 Colin McDonald

I am guessing there is no comment on the Martin story due to the SNP campaigner's propensity for slander.

Technically, this paper and web host could be sued as "publishers" if they did. So I guess it's bum covering ahoy at Scotsman HQ.

I don't blame them. The Wendy stories were pure character assassination.

Regarding this story however. I think we should avoid turning Scotland into some sort of cross between pleasure island and disneyland. Tourism has its place, and that place is only in visiting us to see our civilisation, Edin festival, Celtic connection, existing and ancient links courses, climbing munroes, mountain biking around our lochs/valleys, castles and historic battle grounds and so on.

Some artificially designed plastic crap and Scots on minimum wage serving haggis burgers in an fake atmos of tartan tat aka McTrumpLand is not on.
30

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 12:04:32
#26 Colin, you can comment on Martin on the "Daily Record "forums. Its under the heading "Gorbals Mick
gets in on the act". (I kid you not !!)
31

AJM,

25/02/2008 12:17:02
#29 Marvin, it is only buy diversification can Scotland be successful. Too much reliance on one industry in any one area will be a great weakness.

I am surprised that any criticism of Trumpton is seen as anti jobs and development. Trumps developments in the US are subject to argument over the merits of the their impact. The wholesale support by all parties to this development is a little unnerving as there are real issues that should be sorted. It would not be the first time that a developer promised jobs and they never materialised or the target group of locals never got a look in. The trumps of this world are after profit, social engineering and the environment are not their interest.
32

Tormod,

auld reekie 25/02/2008 12:46:38
Nothing this paper reports to be "news" surprises me anymore, so the new government have highlighted the need to make the planning process more streamlined and looking at how best to do this and guess what this paper then lays the problems at it's door that their pals made nice!!

So let me get this right they make a descision on trump this paper shouts foul. If they leave things alone again this paper shouts foul pattern emerging this paper will blame the SNP government for everything we all know this.

pathetic, childlike sycophantic mantra of unionist press!!
33

alanh,

ek 25/02/2008 12:48:02
how unusual we get invited to comment on stories that the unionist trolls can turn to anti snp garbage( after all #11 under the nu labs and lib dums our econemy is sooooooo skills based with the number of call centre and service jobs they brought to replace manufacturing etc) but cant comment on the speaker and Lord Foulkes ridiculous claimm that its all lies while try6ing to use the class card or on why the police can spend £1mill on the sheridan libel case and say that its not in the public's best interest to persue the dishonmesty of wendy
34

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 12:51:22
#26 Colin, latest results from Daily record on line poll. Q : Should Martin resign. YES: 75%.
35

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 13:55:28
Nothing here about the Trish Gordon case , also covered by a rival "Labour" mouthpiece. Tush Tush Tush.
Impartiality nowhere to be seen.
36

Nikostratos,

25/02/2008 14:04:51
#28 wardog


Opportunity to ASK Nichol Stephen Questions

tinyurl.com/2yu4ao

Submit your questions for a BBC Interview on tonight.
Q...whats the point of wardog
37

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 14:16:35
Marvin, your paranoia seems to be getting the better of you. The other newspapers in Scotland, even those who used to be regarded as Labour supporters are carrying both the Martin and the Gordon (I know , it's hard to keep up when there are so many)sleaze stories
without fear of prosecution, why is that ?.

I think you will have to come up with another excuse
other than fear of SNP provoked slander cases.
38

Marvin the Martian­,

25/02/2008 14:17:59
Still, at least the SNP stepped into to resolve the mess the Lib Dem council got itself into over the Trump application - progress at least and keeps the investment for the north-eact alive, for that at lest the SNP government should be congratulated.
39

The Master,

25/02/2008 14:39:30
#37 Number 6: “fear of SNP provoked SLANDER cases”!!!??? As a rabid Nat, surely you should be aware that “slander” is a term applicable only to English law: the appropriate term in Scotland is “defamation” and, while we’re on the subject of defamation, we all know that you Nats are so fanatical that you’d rip Martin to pieces within minutes, just because he’s one of those politicians you insist on referring to as a “unionist”. I really think it’s fear of posters on here such as Ayrshire Scot that has led the Scotsman to refuse all comment on Speaker Martin. You Nats really are something else!
40

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 14:44:09
#27 Seriousley now, have you seen "Wendy"in action , at FMQT. It's all over Youtube if youv'e missed it. Simply type in her name then sit back and watch Alex Salmond take her and "Nicol" apart , again and again and again. Now this is not just because Salmond is a very good politician, it's because she is so woefully bad. It's toe-curling stuff and no wonder Salmond is sometimes described as "Smirking". So would you be if that was all you were up against in Parliment. That and of course the Bear-pit Gallery.

Bur really , Labour voters were sold Alexander as some kind of intellectual genius, I can only assume within Labour that means able to read AND write. So , no,
you can forget any salvation coming from that area.
41

The Master,

25/02/2008 15:05:52
#40 Number 6: have you ever heard of the “William Hague Effect”? What I mean by this is that Hague was a master performer in the Commons when he was leader of the opposition and frequently outclassed the then inexperienced Tony Blair with a single line. However, this had zero effect on public opinion, as it was only of limited interest outside the Westminster village.

Similarly, Salmond’s performances may look like pure brilliance to you star struck Nats, but they are having little impact on the credibility of Wendy outside the ranks of the “McChattering Classes”. The reason that you Nats are riding high in the polls is far more to do with the unpopularity of a long in the tooth Labour Government nationally (and at Westminster before the glorious triumph of Dear Leader last year). Dream on if you think that Wendy will fail because of her performances in the parliament!
42

The Master,

25/02/2008 15:08:18
Correction: at HOLYROOD before the glorious triumph of Dear Leader last year.
43

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25/02/2008 15:31:57
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25/02/2008 15:32:53
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Tartan Tory Tango,

25/02/2008 15:38:03
#43 Computer Head: begone, geek! There’s going to be a lot more Nat sleaze before the Scottish people tumble what they’re about, take it from me!
46

The west awake,

Argyll 25/02/2008 15:39:47
Master - "Dream on if you think that Wendy will fail because of her performances in the parliament"

I agree, Wendy's inability to combat Salmond in Holyrood will only prove to have been one nail in Labours coffin.

The main reason Wendy and Labour will fail is because we don't want them anymore.
And if you think that's only due to Labour's current woes, ... then it's you who's dreaming. Your time's up China, simple as that.
47

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 15:53:16
#42 Good Grief The Master , talk about being in denial.
yes yes Wendy is actually the consumate politician. She just "Looks" appalling beside Salmond , in every way shape and form, but the scottish people will not be "Fooled" by these smoke and mirrors, and will coming running back to the sleaze ridden Labour Fold
at the first oppertunity, is that it ?.

As for Gorbals Mick, he's a greedy , snout in the trough Labour puppett. Oh by the way that's YOUR tax money he and his wife are stealing, but hey it's Labour , leave them alone. Aye right .
48

Number 6,

Germany 25/02/2008 15:55:09
45 No sign of it yet 3tT but more Labour Sleaze by the day. See any newspaper.
49

The Master,

25/02/2008 15:56:22
#46 The West awake: “we don’t want them anymore”. Didn’t they say that about the Tories when they were kicked out in ’97? Now there seems to be something of a revival in support for them nationally, and by extension for their tartan counterparts in Scotland. These things go in cycles, you know!
50

The Master,

25/02/2008 16:05:30
#47 Number 6: how about Swinney when he was in charge of your lot then? If ever a man set your cause back, it was he and look how you've recovered since then (for now!) Wendy’s got way more credibility with the electorate than he ever had. Gloat while you can!
51

Tormod,

Auld Reekie 25/02/2008 16:13:59
Master I haven't had a good laugh in ages well done pal keep it up you should appear on stage with an act like that!!!

You must travel in an ever decreasing circle most folk I ask about wendy you get a common response about her attitude mainly!!

So apparently Wendy has an intellect??? She must leave it at home then!
52

Tormod,

Auld Reekie 25/02/2008 16:18:46
"But what about the bairns all cold in hungry in the dickensian Scotland"!!

The labour are party are moving themselves firmly into an ideological straight jacket of the middle 20th Century.

Labour will not admit to themselves and us that Scotland could be any better as an Independent nation.

as they say in toontown "But what about the rabbits George"!
53

Marvin the Martian,

25/02/2008 16:47:26
Oi Oi, wait a minute!

How can someone use the same name as me at post number 38?

I thought that wouldn't have been allowed?
54

Colin McDonald,

25/02/2008 16:54:09
Don't forget those hungry caterpillars too Tormod...

They have been sorely let down by this administration. Bad enough that they must go hungry but, whilst in seach of food, they are exposed to attacks not only from airbourne predators but now also from those on the ground due to the removal of ring fencing.
55

Tormod,

Auld Reekie 25/02/2008 17:03:21
hi 54 My Kilmarnock Willow got decimated by a poplar hawk moth during the summer I hate caterpillars!!
56

American Reader,

Edmond 27/02/2008 02:42:18
Golf? Giant pylons? What do they have in common? To be in the same article? Golf is a game, but giant pylons are monstrosities to the landscape and the human eye. NO to pylons, bury the lines!

 

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