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Published Date: 07 January 2008
DINOSAURS may have been killed off by biting insects rather than a cataclysmic meteor impact, a new theory claims.
Disease spread by ancient mosquitoes, mites, ticks and perhaps even the ancestors of the Scottish midge, was probably what finished off the reptiles, say scientists.

By changing the nature of plant life on Earth, insects could have made it harder for dinosaurs to survive.

Bees and other pollinators helped promote the rapid spread of flowering plants unsuited to the traditional diet of vegetarian dinosaurs. As the plant-eaters declined, so would their predators.

The theory helps explain why dinosaurs took so long to die off, according to husband and wife team George and Roberta Poinar.

According to the most widely accepted explanation, the dinosaurs were wiped out by an asteroid or comet that smashed into the Earth off the coast of Mexico 65 million years ago.

Another theory is that they were driven to extinction by massive volcanic eruptions in India which led to extreme climate change.

The time at which the dinosaurs disappeared, between the Cretaceous and Tertiary periods, is known as the K-T Boundary.

But George Poinar, a professor of zoology at Oregon State University in Corvallis, points out that they did not vanish immediately. Their extinction was drawn out over hundreds of thousands or even millions of years.

An impact scenario should have led to an abrupt extinction, and volcano-induced climate change would probably also have wiped them out relatively quickly.

On the other hand, emerging diseases spread by biting insects, combined with the spread of flowering plants, and competition with insects for plant resources was "perfectly compatible" with a lengthy process of extinction, said Prof Poinar.

Insects date back as far as the Carboniferous period, around 300 million years ago. During the later part of the dinosaurs' reign, insect numbers and species exploded. Mosquitoes evolved in the early Cretaceous. The oldest example known, from Burma, was trapped in amber 100 million years ago. Prof Poinar and his wife have carried out a study of plants and creatures preserved in amber, the fossilised resin that is used for ornaments and jewellery.

They outline their dinosaur-extinction theory in a book published by Princeton University Press, What Bugged The Dinosaurs? Insects, Disease And Death In The Cretaceous.

Prof Poinar said: "During the late Cretaceous period, the associations between insects, microbes and disease transmission were just emerging.

"We found in the gut of one biting insect preserved in amber from that era, the pathogen that causes leishmania – a serious disease today, one that can infect reptiles and humans. In another we discovered organisms that cause malaria, a type that infects birds and lizards today.

"In dinosaur faeces, we found nematodes, trematodes and even protozoa that could have caused dysentery and other abdominal disturbances. The infective stages of these parasites are carried by filth-visiting insects."

He said that during this period, the world was covered with warm-temperate to tropical areas, swarming with blood-sucking insects. The infections they carried would have caused epidemics that slowly wore down dinosaur populations.

"Smaller and separated populations of dinosaurs could have been repeatedly wiped out, just as when bird malaria was introduced to Hawaii, it killed off many of the honeycreepers," Prof Poinar added.

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Kitti Kat,

PA 07/01/2008 00:38:15
Whenever I have been in the UK during the warmer months and leave the bedroom window open, insects come flying in to (I guess) feast on some human blood. Anyway, why on earth hasn' UK builders and window makers provide window screens as they do here in the US? I have never understood the lack of screens on windows. Not only do they keep out unwanted insects but provide a bit of a buffer between the sill and below. Even in newer hotels I have noticed a lack of window screens. What comfort they provide by keeping those critters out. Especially when one is trying to sleep.
2

AJ o' Fife,

07/01/2008 00:49:28
Doesn't the Bible have an angle on this sort of stuff?

Oops, I forgot, the world is only 4000 years old according to that pile of sh*te!

Any Bible thumpers out there?
3

weeshooie1,

Australia 07/01/2008 02:51:39
Kitti Kat,

The mesh in flyscreens is too big to stop Scottish midges :o(

Hi A.J.
4

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta 07/01/2008 04:04:49
#3.

U dude are correct . Those dam Scots midges easily get through standard screened windows.

Seems that Kitti Kat,PA is limited in the science of geometry
5

William of Liberton,

EDINBURGH 07/01/2008 06:11:17
#2 AJ o' Fife, you are totally out of date: according to the US based Museum of Creation the world is six, not four, thousand years old, definitely. Dinosaurs were created on the sixth day of creation, but we know nothing about their subsequent demise as the bible says nothing about it.

We know nothing about anything unless it is mentioned in the Bible or the Koran. And you better believe it.
6

donald,

glasgow 07/01/2008 07:09:25
So the Midgies killed Nessie? Midgies Murder Monster.
7

Haggis MacBagpipes,

Central Canada - ex Perth and Glesca' 07/01/2008 08:41:52
#1 - Kiti Kat,PA

Screens do not have small enough mesh to keep out
'No-see-ums' aka "Fruit Flies." These little b*ggers can sure bite!
Cheers,
Haggis MacBagpipes™©
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Kate Barr,

GLASGOW 07/01/2008 10:54:37
Yeah rulesbutnotrulers (#7)who knows or cares! Well Mr and Mrs Poinar no doubt you have both spent many sleepless nights and many days checking over your books and past details to come up with this wonderful decision about the tiny flying things killing off the dinasaurs, the question is. Will it help mankind find the cure for several hundred illnesses that beset the world? not a jot I would think, mind you-I'm only an ancient retired person who has worked most of her life, paid into the tax mountain which disappears even quicker than the workers can add to it. I wonder how you managed to do your research and keep the wolf from the door eh? no doubt some organization with money has been keeping you going - please believe me I'm not trying to be insulting about it. But God help me surely people with brains should be checking out something which will save peoples lives, not ruddy well trying to find out why the dinasaurs died. It seems that the silly season has descended on us early this year and a report regarding something this daft is seeing the light of day.
Oh give me strength, why not research into why lazy and moneyed builders in this country don't have the brains and thought to build houses with a hang of a lot more insulation to keep our heating bills down. Adding to that the fact that our "carbon footprint " is ever so important these days. These are things which other countries can do - without a problem and believe it or not in Scandinavia where it is colder than it is in Scotland, but try and get a builder to actually put in force some insulation that actually makes a difference here is a waste of time, money and effort. So please if you are looking for a new subject to tackle - try that please....
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Neil,

Glasgow 07/01/2008 11:15:41
An interesting example of the way the media use the term "say scientists" to lend authority to their stories. This implies but does not actually mean that scientsts generally say it. In fact it nedd only be that 2 scientists say something. As in:

Joe Bloggs is the smartest, cutest person in the world say scientists" (Dr J Bloggs senior & his scientist wife Mrs Bloggs)

The fact is that the insect theory is very far down the list of theories of what killed them but fearsome "ancestors of Scottish midges" makes a better story than a serious report would.
10

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/01/2008 11:26:47
Just a thought...

If the dinosaurs HADN'T died off for whatever reason, would man still be dominant today?

Back on topic, the dinosaurs had pretty thick, scaly skin. I'd like to see the size of mosquito that could have poked through that! I know that many insects were a lot bigger in those times but somehow, I don't think they were that big.

This sounds more like hearsay that true science. I'll stick with the meteorite theory for the time being.
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Kate Barr,

GLASGOW 07/01/2008 11:38:34
Silly me! I always was a bit of a trudger through facts - am therefore inclined to get into and mixed up in the general mire.... comment#11 I should've approached the subject using lateral thinking - doesn't half get me MAD though when I hear of all these so-called theories....
12

Horrible Cankers..dans le Cyber Shebeen,

07/01/2008 12:13:27
Well ye see...mah take oan the subject is this...they aw goat the flu eh?...nae anti biotics tae deal wae it..so that wis it...game's a bogey...and the giant fleas and mozzies and midgies well they jist passed it oan.....then some guy wae a big beard came roon as they wir oan thir last legs...bashed them aw ower the heid wae a bible n' said..

"Beat it...you shouldnae even be here ya f*$µç* ye!"
13

Nellie,

Liverpool 07/01/2008 14:13:10
Dunno about the big beasties but the damned midges nearly killed me last time I tried camping by a forest in Scotland! (Odd thing - wife and myself got bitten to pieces but he two wee baes didn't get a single mark, and you'd have thought they'd prefer fresh meat!)
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/01/2008 14:24:47
#14:

I often find myself on the shores of Loch Etive during the summer, where midges are rampant. My method? Use DEET repellent, light a bonfire and smoke fags. Works for me---and it's one of the few time that non-smokers go out of their way to crowd round me whenever I light a fag up.

Hypocrits! I should tell them to buy their own!
15

Gothic Rose,

07/01/2008 15:10:56
7#RulesbutnotRulers.

Could never understand why I enjoy Marmite.Now I do. Thankyou.
16

Mike Down Under,

Insect Laden Sydney 07/01/2008 22:28:31
Katie Barr - steady on old girl; why denigrate the life's work of other people - there's no obligation to do anything for the benefit of one's fellow humans - if these nice people want to answer questions that don't need answering....well...who are we (and who are you specifically) to criticize? Is your right to judge other people based on the fact that you have paid taxes? Well, I've paid taxes too - so what did you do with your life that qualifies you to assess somebody else's life as irrelevant?
17

Kipling,

08/01/2008 02:59:26
If I recall correctly, the material Chiffon can keep out the teeniest of flying creatures.
18

Kipling,

08/01/2008 03:01:07
But I suspect dinosaurs didn't know how to produce it.
19

Kipling,

08/01/2008 03:01:41
I could be wrong of course.
20

Kipling,

08/01/2008 03:02:13
About the dinosaurs not knowing, I mean.
21

Kate Barr,

GLASGOW 08/01/2008 17:41:19
Hi Mike (down under) How is the weather there - I would bet my boots that it is not freezing anyhow, betya you don't need to bother about the high cost of heating your pad eh ? The heating costs in Scotland have just taken a huge leap recently and we the consumers have had to draw in our horns in order to cope with the payments. it's nothing to do with me what other people do with their money but when there is every chance that the cost of doing things wrongly is being taken out of the tax holding purse then I feel bound to vent my anger at the twits who do so.

Let me try and explain - I am well aware that most people are paying taxes! I was not meaning that I am among only a few who do - I was trying to draw attention to the fact these so-called scientists have spent time in coming to their conclusions - they would have to be paid or supported during that time, right? where does that money come from - I would imagine that the figure concerned could and would be quite a sum.... No doubt some crazy looney will have paid out of some bag of swag in order for them to come to their weird and wonderful results.
Let me clarify this point too, I never said or inferred that anyones life was irrelevant, what I would say is that who killed off the dinasaurs is certainly irrelevant.
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Fairfax,

09/01/2008 11:23:06
Kate Barr (22): "I was trying to draw attention to the fact these so-called scientists have spent time in coming to their conclusions - they would have to be paid or supported during that time, right? where does that money come from"

Poinar is an entomologist at Oregon State University in the US, so his salary comes from student fees and the taxpayers of Oregon, as well as possibly from US government research grants; to my knowledge, he is not funded by any bitter Scottish utilitarians. He is most famous for isolating (and, more incredibly, identifying) insect DNA fragments from amber -- arguably one of the inspirations for the film Jurassic Park.

Oregon State University seem to be quite proud of him, and rightly so:

http://oregonstate.edu/home/stories/poinar.html

There's more general info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Poinar,_Jr.
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Kate Barr,

GLASGOW 10/01/2008 08:35:26
Hi Fairfax have just got around to reading your post firstly, I put my hands up and acknowledge that OK in this case Poinar is not coining it in wrongly and I would apologize unashamedly. Unfortunately my experience of these sort of theories is such that I was tarring him and his wife with the same brush. OK Fairfax? I hope you are not tarring me with an incorrect brush though thinking that I'm a "bitter Scottish Unitilitarian" 'cos I'm not that, unfortunately I was drawing on experiences I have gained through working in the Health Service and how that works at times. Money seems to fall through a huge hole in the ether, and the ordinary Joe or Jean Public don't get a look in. Let's agree to disagree on the benefit or not of investigation into the isolation of DNA fragments in amber - or, in fact the opinion of the film Jurassic Park...... 'nuff said eh?
Thanks in this case for the info on George Poinar Jr.... Kate ..


 

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