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Published Date: 07 April 2009
EXPERTS have warned that Scotland is the grip of a diabetes "epidemic" after new figures revealed the number of people with the disease is rising by almost 200 a week. There are now 220,000 Scots suffering from diabetes – 4.3 per cent of the population.
In the past 12 months, the number of people diagnosed with the condition has risen by 10,000, according to data revealed at the Edinburgh International Science Festival yesterday.

Most of the increase is due to the soaring rate of type 2 diabetes, which mostly affects the middle-aged. It is strongly linked to lifestyle factors such as being overweight or obese, being sedentary and having a poor diet.

According to the Scottish Diabetes Register, there were 209,706 patients reported to be living with the condition in 2007. But draft figures for last year suggest that figure has jumped to 219,963. This is the equivalent of more than 28 people a day being added to the official statistics.

Dr John McKnight, a consultant physician at the Western General Hospital in Edinburgh and an honorary lecturer at Edinburgh University, told The Scotsman that cases of the disease were increasing worldwide.

He said the causes of type 2 diabetes included genetic factors as well as people taking less exercise and putting on weight. But a major factor was the ageing population, which was helping to boost the increase.

"People carrying excess weight are more likely to get diabetes," Dr McKnight said. "But there is a genetic element to it, which is recognised.

"There is also an age element. As you get older, you can make less insulin and your blood sugar tends to rise. The fact that our population is living longer is one of the reasons for this epidemic of diabetes."

In addition to the 220,000 who have been diagnosed, it is estimated more than 90,000 people in Scotland have diabetes but do not know it yet. Across the UK, the number of diabetics is set to rise to 4.2 million by 2026.

With Scotland already estimated to be spending £1 billion a year treating the disease and its complications, the continued rise in diagnoses is a major concern for a cash-strapped NHS.

The health service is estimated to spend £10,000 a minute treating diabetes and related conditions. This is about a tenth of its total budget.

Experts have predicted that, as budgets tighten, the NHS will face increasingly difficult choices over treatments and drugs.

Diabetics are five times more likely to suffer heart attacks and strokes than other people.

The condition, in which the body is unable, or struggles, to convert sugar into energy, also raises the risk of blindness, kidney disease and nerve and circulatory damage which, at its most severe, can lead to amputations.

Type 2 diabetes accounts for some 87 per cent of cases. Type 1 diabetes is usually diagnosed early in life.

The Scottish Diabetes Survey has shown annual increases in the number of people recorded with diabetes. In 2003, 134,000 were said to have diabetes, and the figure has jumped every year since then.

Dr McKnight, who chairs the survey group, said part of the increase was probably down to better recording of diabetes, as well as the age and weight-gain factors.

Better treatments for the disease mean that more people are surviving with diabetes, he said, adding to the overall total of people with the condition.

Dr McKnight said the NHS was working well to care for people with diabetes, but that work would need to be scaled up in future due to the increase in the number of cases.

"It can be quite damaging to health," he said. "It can affect the eyes, the kidneys and predispose you to heart attacks and strokes as well as to amputations."

Jane-Claire Judson, national director of Diabetes UK Scotland, said: "These new figures are concerning and confirm that diabetes is one of the main health challenges facing Scotland.

"Awareness and prevention are crucial if we want to avert this future health crisis and see the number of people with type 2 diabetes fall. We need to encourage people to reduce their risk of developing the condition by eating healthily, maintaining a healthy weight and leading an active lifestyle."

A spokesman for the Scottish Government said: "We are in the process of revising our 'diabetes action plan 2006' and prevention of type 2 diabetes will be one of the main issues considered in the forthcoming consultation."

Scotland isn't only 'hotspot' – disease is worldwide issue

CASES of both type 1 and type 2 diabetes are increasing around the world, with experts predicting these rises will continue.

A report in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 reported that there were around 28.3 million cases of diabetes in Europe in 2000.

But by 2030, this is predicted to rise to 37.4 million.

Dr John McKnight, a consultant physician in Edinburgh, said that, in India, the figure was expected to rise from 32 million people to 79 million by 2030.

"There's a huge concern about this epidemic, particularly in some of the less developed countries," he said.

In Scotland, health organisations have been preparing for future increases in diabetes.

Last year, a report by NHS Quality Improvement Scotland said that the number of people diagnosed with diabetes was doubling every decade.

Over 80 per cent of people with diabetes in Scotland are overweight or obese.

Diabetes can lead to a host of complications, costly to both the NHS and the individual. It is a major cause of stroke and coronary heart disease and the leading cause of blindness in people aged 20 to 74.

The condition is a major cause of kidney failure and can lead to patients having to have a limb amputated.

Diabetes can also cause problems in pregnancy.

RISING TOLL

Number of people recorded on diabetes registries with the disease in Scotland:

2003 134,000

2004 162,000

2005 173,000

2006 197,000

2007 210,000

2008 220,000




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  • Last Updated: 06 April 2009 11:26 PM
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 00:12:55
The whole issue of obesity related illnesses is one that could be sorted in my opinion. As a smoker I am penalised by having to stand outside for my anti-social habit, and am taxed to the hilt. I accept that. We should tax fat foods and make the same stigma attached to it. That is not a civil liberty issue, I can still smoke, and people can still eat unhealthy foods. But the direction from the Government should be to drive us away from unhealthy habits.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 00:14:50

A very worrying figure, no-doubt this will be one for the SNP to 'grab_on_to', extra super tax on all foods that contain fats and sugar's.

One again the 'shot_gun' approach will be used rather than the intelligence's of education.


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SamuraiCelt,

Tokyo 07/04/2009 00:45:55
#1 I agree - "But a major factor was the ageing population, which was helping to boost the increase." - was just said to try and soften the blow. With good diet you can avoid diabetes as you age.

And "cases of the disease were increasing worldwide" is nonsense too. He really means in countries who have similar bad eating habits as us.
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 00:56:51

#1,

"Government should be to drive us away from unhealthy habits",

But what is "unhealthy habits", for the 4.3% of the Population, why the hell should the other 95.7% be penalised for the few?

Going on this theory, this means the Government that rules us should be in power with the fewest votes!, as in the,....

...'Mad Raving Lunatic Party'!

After saying this, with the recent 'going-on's' in Scotland, I can see it coming!

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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 01:07:04
I think unhealthy habits are pretty bloody obvious
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 01:36:38



#7, is that you, original "Scott-Web", were you banned? :)

Nice to hear, if it is!

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Navvy,

07/04/2009 01:58:48
Why are people looking to government for a solution? It is an individual's responsibility and that of the state. Unfortunately the article mentions a genetic dsiposition behind which some will hide "Ah canny help in it's in ma genes" completely forgetting that if they were to eat less and exercise more any predisposition would be unlikely to kick in.

This is more self inflicted injury the consequences of which should not be paid for from public funds.
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Julian.,

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Observer,

Surely fat in moderate amounts is part of a normal diet so you'll end up penalising those on a normal diet.

Anyway, where are you going to stop. Are you going to start taxing skiers because they are involved in an activity more likely to require hospitalisation. Or how about motorbike riders. Or how about those who don't cross the road safely?

Life is riddled with activities which may or may not lead to accidents or diseases. Where do you draw the line?
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Lanna,

07/04/2009 05:12:10
Hi ScotW,
Howz it goin?

do you all have co-ops? That's a great way to get some really good organic produce, while supporting small farms
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Steven Gray,

Peterborough 07/04/2009 05:25:50
It's also a great way to relieve yourself of all that extra money you have. The Co-Op is all well and good for granola eating well-offs, but it's pretty much impossible to buy your weekly shop there and not feel like calling the police afterwards to report the robbery.
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R Davis,

Vienna, Austria 07/04/2009 05:58:26
Thanks for the cheering news I am off for a seat a pie & a pint.
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Ed_Izmir,

Turkey 07/04/2009 06:12:02
It's perfectly understandable. Since the NHS is expected to provide universal healthcare there is a significant portion of the population who still expect to get 'sorted' despite spending their entire existence trying to destroy their body quicker than nature intended. If the provision of the NHS was severly restricted or even abolished and people had to pay for most of their health care we would eventually see a much healthier nation.
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spaghettimonster,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 07:44:41
It would be an ignorant mistake to blame people with diabetes for a self-inflicted condition. This is because not all fat people get diabetes and there are slim people who also get type 2 diabetes. Like many conditions you need the underlying genetic predisposition to develop the disease in the setting of environmental insult, just like heart disease, cancer etc. And, come on read the article...a lot of these people are older with flagging pancreata...getting old is hardly a crime.
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Alphonso,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 07:46:19
Its important to make a distinction between Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes, which although having the same effect on the body are two different conditions.

Type 1 is an auto-immune disorder caused by the body's antibodies attacking its own insulin-producing cells in the pancreas.

The causes of Type 2 are well documented, but please do not fall into the trap of thinking taxation is the answer. The answer, IMHO, to this and the obesity epidemic, is to place strict limits on the amount of saturated fats, sugars and additives used as ingredients in processed foods.
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fife runner,

07/04/2009 07:47:52
were are all the anti nanny state brigade today. Unforunately unless the big stick is now wielded we will have no NHS left as it slowly sinks under the blubber.

We are even fatter now than the USA which of course has no NHS. Maybe this is one reason we have overtaken them as people who fall illhave to foot the bill. If people became ill here though lifestyle choice then they should foot part of the bill, maybe?
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Walter Ego,

Durness 07/04/2009 07:48:40
A very serious issue but the Scotsman didn't have to show the picture of Salmond in shorts - it put me off my breakfast.
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Phil C,

07/04/2009 07:49:49
I am trying to establish a healthy, eco-friendly fast food business in Perth. It's a bit of a struggle but we're getting there.

Decades of bad eating (high fat, high salt, high processing) are taking their toll. Another legacy of Labour lethergy! I do despair when I see so many who seem to think that a greasy sausage roll or fat-laden baguette is worthwhile nosh!

It's up to each individual though. As for educating kids, the schools are trying to do a job. When you see their parents though, this seems a bit pointless!

As a matter of interest, what's the diabetes rate in the States?
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drunken proffet,

Tassy 07/04/2009 08:09:51
Well most of my problems arose from not getting enough exercise. Basically the effects of arthritis. However there must be a lot of folk on welfare with the same complaint. I would suggest maybe the government provides free gymn and golf course membership as a temporary solution. Or in the case of the youngsters, seal culling or war games. I do not say that it is a cure for diabetes, however it is better than reading about the problem in the Scotland and doing nothing.
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drunken proffet,

Tassy 07/04/2009 08:11:03
I meant the Scotsman, it is maybe next year they could change the name to Scotland the Noo.
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Jennifer Tailya,

Out and About 07/04/2009 08:16:13
You lot of so called healthy food fans need to do some reading.

I am diabetic. I take no medications whatsoever. I have not used sugar or salt for 30 years. I had, according to the dietician very health concious eating habits.

How did I get back to normal levels of blood sugars?

I stopped eating cereals, bread, pasta, rice and potatoes. These high carbohydrate foods convert quickly to glucose. Pity dieticians still insist that diabetic meals should be at least 60% carbohydrates.

Its not the burger. Eat the burger and throw awaay the bun!




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Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 07/04/2009 08:16:59
RBNR

While I understand what you are getting accross and in the main agree with what you state, how about this:

Re: self inflicted medical problems should not be supported by the NHS. Ok, say you regularly run to keep fit but in doing so wear out your hips, or knees or someother cartilage related problem from running, should the NHS pay for that?

Say you play rugby to kep fit (or any team sport) anhd the constant running and impact has a negative impact on bones, muscles, cartilage etc long term, should the NHS pay for that? They are all self inflicted.

Or, in your anarchistic government, will you dictate what exercise is allowed and what isn't?
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spaghettimonster,

07/04/2009 08:25:34
"42 Rulesbutnotrulers

Fair enough. If you want to apply this moral then you have to do so equitably.

That means no NHS treatment for any self inflicted disease. Thus, no treatment for smokers who get ischaemic heart disease or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, no cholecystectomies for the fair, fat, fortysomethings, no treatment for cervical cancer sufferers (HPV transmission), no treatment for anyone who drinks more than the recommended limits per week (by the way, this is the next big epidemic), to name but a few...

Clearly, this approach is impractical and I would not support it.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 08:28:48
Ah, the delights of Socialism. A trinity of successes for those that believe the State knows best. Laziness and fatness amongst the feckless classes endemic, their feral children so amoral that they try to kill before they even hit puberty and the time-honoured visit to the IMF just round the corner. 'Things can only get better....'
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Douglas,

Bathgate 07/04/2009 08:32:44
#47 Dave: You're right of couse Dave but some don't let that get in the way of a fight.
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Douglas,

Bathgate 07/04/2009 08:33:05
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 08:40:29
#44 Tassy

The classic response from someone who someone who sounds to me to be abdicating all responsibility for their own health. The 'government' (i.e. your fellow citizens who pay tax) should hand out free gym memberships etc. Well, here's a wee hint. Open your door and see outside? There's somewhere to run or walk and it doesnt cost you or your fellow citizens a bean and it's good for you.
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Dave From Barra,

Western Isles 07/04/2009 08:40:42
The correct term for a pigs nose is Gruntle.

So it's Gruntles in the Torugh!
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Dave From Barra,

07/04/2009 08:40:51
Trough even.
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Dr Katharine Morrison,

Mauchline 07/04/2009 08:55:02
It is a combination of two many calories, too much refined carbohydrate in the diet and too little exercise that is the cause of the type two diabetes epidemic.

The dietary guidelines for diabetics which advocate a high carb/low fat/low protein diet for diabetics are wrong. The SIGN guideline group ten years ago made an error in their recommendations. The paper looked like the so called "heathly eating" recommendation was based on randomised controlled trial evidence for all diabetics of all types and at all stages of the condition. As a result diabetics have been dragooned into unhealthy eating practices which accelerates beta cell destruction and exaggerates blood sugar swings.
There are a lot of vested interests in keeping the diabetes industry in full swing eg food manufacturers, drug manfacturers and even the medical system.

See Jennifer's post above. She is on the right track. If you want to prevent diabetes or treat it adequately the first step is to greatly reduce or stop eating processed foods, bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and sugars. Learn how to get normal blood sugars at:
www.dsolve.com
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Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

07/04/2009 08:57:06
Do people really know what their body needs and what food is? Do people really read the labels on the packaging and understand what it is saying? Perhaps if there was a photo of the ingredients broken down into their original form it would be easier to understand..We have a vast amount of choice now compared to what I had as a child..a staggering amount but its the same guff in a different tin..and Scottweb is right, the local shops have closed..people have to travel further to the big supermarket (Alladins Cave) so they want to make it worth the effort and stock up on said guff (weekly shop) in the process..of course things are so much cheaper than the wee shops so people just get on with it...all this diet stuff is poison and it fools people into thinking they will lose weight on it...speaking of which, yesterday I saw a woman in a shop looking at 'Diet teas'..I mean get a grip!...our bodies need food and only food...not the garbage that people buy pre-packaged prettied up and yet its still a monumental task to heave it into the micro-wave...and I am speaking of course...as a chocaholic.......

I dont think people really understand what 'food' is..they are brought up now in consumer paradise and it is the photo of the "Serving suggestion" on the microwave bowl that lures them in...*sNaP*
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The Meister,

07/04/2009 09:03:32
I fear we may be missing a crucial point here.. could it be that the current diabetes ridden generation are paying the price for the poor lifestyle and environmental conditions of previous generations? I am convinced that many of our poor health statistics are as a result of the heavy industrialisation experienced in scotland, previous generation's lifestyle's and environmental factors unfortunately affect our own genetics. Quite frightening really, the hidden cost of rapid economic 'development'?
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 09:11:50
#64 The Meister

That's nonsense. The availability and relative cheapness of food is the issue. Obesity was hardly an issue during the last Depression and, ironically, the population was at its healthiest, in terms of nutrition, during the rationing period of WW2. No, it's human nature I'm afraid, to gorge and be lazy. By nature I'd rather have creme brulee than brocolli but I have to make the choice; it appears so many folk can't.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 09:18:12
#64 Rab

More excuses. We don't need 'advice' and 'information'. Unless you're living on an educational diet of Jeremy Kyle and Celebspotter mags then you can't fail to notice it's not hard to understand. In general more exercise (i.e. moving) is good, taking the car and sitting in front of the TV, bad. Fresh fruit, veg and not too much out of a tin or packet good. Cakes, booze and fast food bad. See, that's not too hard is it? If I can get that why shouldn't all those fat s*ds who need excuses?
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Astarte,

Giffnock 07/04/2009 09:18:57
Being sedentary, obesity and poor diet! I agree with the findings on all three counts. Business permits me to travel freely to Canada and the United States, particularly to British Columbia and here I witness life styles that are almost idyllic for the precipiation of good health and fitness and yet diabetes is on the rise. Unlike Scotland, fresh fruits and vegetables are consumed as and with all meals, unlike Scotland physical fitness for all ages can be seen in parks and trails and even in cities and obesity is limited and frowned upon and yet they too are concerned with diabetes. There they blame much of it on being sedentary and employers encourage standing or walking breaks as a precautionary measure. Good dental hygene is another plus on their side and the vegetables are eaten either raw or blanched and fewer paople smoke,a major cause of diabetes, they claim that they have the most active Seniors anywhere and I believe it, and yet Diabetes is a threat, not as much as Scotland, but a worry. Why? Much more research must be done.
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The Meister,

07/04/2009 09:20:35
Draco was a wimp, Of course poor diet exacerbates allready weak genes! that is obvious, im trying to explain why west of scotland genes seem to be more susceptible to such poor health.

There are countries who smoke more, drink heavily but have lower rates of heart disease and cancer. How do we explain that if its purely down to lifestyle?
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jennie,

inverness 07/04/2009 09:22:14
Blame not the consumer but the food manufacturer, particularly the mass caterers who feed our children and supply far too many of our caterers. For them it's all about profit, not health. So they sell food high in salt, sugar, cheap hydrogenated fat with a long shelf life(not good fat like butter and goose fat and olive oil), cornflour and monodosium glutamate. End result obesity and an increase in diabetes.

Artificial sweeteners actually cause obesity - the taste response tells the body to expect sugar, which does not come. See Wikipedia: "Artificial sweeteners cost the food industry only a fraction of the cost of natural sweeteners in spite of the extremely high profit margins for manufacturers of artificial sweeteners. So it is not surprising that the food industry is promoting its "diet" or "light" products heavily, thus moving the customers over to its even more profitable artificially-sweetened products".
I would not be surprised if artifical sweeteners were themselves implicated in the increase in diabetes, as the secretion of insulin is triggered first by the tastebuds and continually getting a false alarm must destabilise that particular system after a while. Wonder if there's been any research?
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The Strategist,

07/04/2009 09:22:29
4.3%5 is not an epidemic.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 09:31:47
#70 The Meister

Because in this country we have the perfect storm. We have excess alcohol/cigarette consumption, low rates of exercise and bad diet PLUS a socialist political outlook that refuses to condemn, criticise or oblige anyone to take responsibility for their own lives. Everyone's 'vulnerable' or a victim in this country, no-one 's just lazy. There's a smothering nanny-statism in this country that, until it's lessened, will continue to make matters worse no matter how much cash we throw at the NHS and various smoking cessation officers. In China, they smoke like chimneys but if you don't work, tough. You don't have the option of sitting on your fat a*se. In the Indian subcontinent, they have an appallingly fat-rich diet, but likewise.
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Tris,

07/04/2009 09:32:30
#2 Charles, as I'm sure you're aware, the government in Scotland does not have the right to raise taxes on fatty food, or on anything else except income. So, if any shotgun taxes are to be introduced it will have to be by the English parliament.

In the meantime the Scottish government will have to rely upon education and incentive as a way of trying to deal with at least some of the increased number of people suffering from this debilitating illness.

Shona Robison is already on the case.
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The Meister,

07/04/2009 09:37:39
Draco, all extremely relevant points, but the missing link is genetics. My granny lived until almost a 100 after a lifteime of smoking heavily, drinking and eating cr*p, so go figure. Critical factor could be that her genetics came from scandinavia and not industrial west of scotland
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 09:37:41
# 76 Tris

We must be a really stupid people if we haven't yet worked out what the problem is. Education my er*e.
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Tris,

07/04/2009 09:38:04
#42. Goodness but it must be hard to be as perfect as you.

And just who would you have as the arbiter of who did what to themselves to cause the illness that they have in later life.

Would you take points off for genetic inheritance; injury caused by sports, work-related injuries (you dont HAVE to be a carpet fitter or a furniture remover)?
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 09:39:53
#77 The Meister

For every rule there's a glorious exception. But, like I say, the perfect storm. I bet your granny was built like a whippet and worked hard all her days.
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jennie,

inverness 07/04/2009 09:42:00
#74 thanks, SsCoTt! Good news is that the Western Isles Council has resisted the blandishments of Appetito (an English company, but a front for a massive Dutch factory farming outfit) to supply school dinners and meals on wheels. A tasting session resulted in the female councillors refusing to serve such highly salted food to their children or parents. Now they are working with local food producers to ensure that all food is locally sourced and cooked and the money spent is retained in the local community rather than being siphoned off to England and/or Europe.
When will other councils see that this makes perfect sense and copy? (The words "blue", "moon", "hell" and "freezes" should be avoided if possible).
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Tris,

07/04/2009 09:47:11
#78. Draco.

I suspect you're right. We must be very stupid. That's why you see people stuffing their faces with junk food, smoking and getting rat ar$ed every day and ending up 4 or 5 stone overweight.

Alternatively people are aware of what they are doing and simply don't care... "Oh that's years away, and I could be run over by a bus in the meantime" syndrome

However, my point was that taxation is not open to our government as Charles seems to imply, and the only alternative is to inform people... let them know that it's not gonna be a heck of a lot of fun when they get diabetes.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 09:54:48
#82 Tris

You're right, taxation isn't an option and why should it be? Don't get me wrong, I'm as sweet toothed and partial to a pizza or burger as the next person but I KNOW I can't more than once in a while. I don't need any more educating, nor does anyone who has any access to TV. It's a lifestyle choice and the government shouldn't waste another penny on more educational programmes or various local government nanny 'officers'.
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fife runner,

07/04/2009 09:58:51
#26 I agree with #25 we are fatter no than the USA
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fife runner,

07/04/2009 09:59:12
should read "now"
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fife runner,

07/04/2009 10:01:03
sports accidents do not on the whole lead to someone needing lifetime care as does illness caused by obesity. So one cannot make the correlation.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 10:02:06
#85 Rules

You be careful, you're verging on the libertarian there. People will start to accuse you of being a right-wing nutter, like old Draco.
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Tris,

07/04/2009 10:04:58
#83 Draco

Like you, I enjoy the odd sweet thing... and pizzas and chips and .... well you get the drift, and I too know that I have to be careful how often I indulge myself.

Fortunately I'm fond of exercise too.

The question of whether to spend money on informing and providing help and encouragement is a hard one.

It may be that the cost of the information will be much less than dealing with the ultimate health problems.

On the other hand of course you can be economically brutal and reckon on a balancing out by saving a lot of Retiremnet Pension.
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Snowman,

Whistler, BC 07/04/2009 10:17:15
#68 Astarte, you are corect in your observations on living in Btitish Columbia. Our beautiful Province offers a lifestyle that encourages outdoor activities and it shows in most of us who take care of our bodies. My High School teenage daughter and her friends distribute leaflets to other teenagers around school events and in the village showing a picture of very obese soccer fans with the caption "If You Want to Look like a Brit then eat at McDonalds". These kids still enjoy Hamburgers but they know what ingredients they contain good organic ground beef and fresh condiments and no additives. It does them no harm when they are eating at least three servings of fresh fruit and vegtables three times a day and living in a skiers paradise.
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Brodric,

07/04/2009 10:35:08
Quite a number of sanctimonious holier than thou-s speaking out here. Its quite sickening to actually read these rantings.

If it were only so simple as some of you say. But its not. Poverty is a big factor here. When you don't have much cash, you buy cheap frozen sausages, pies, deserts etc to put on the table. Poor people want to feel that they have some kind of life too - and there are not many really healthy options at the cheaper end of the market.

Then there are producers (as somebody above mentioned). They are not interested in the health of the nation so much as in the health of their wallets. So they removed all the old traditional cheaper cuts of meat and priced more modest buyers out of the meat and into the processed foods, which have very little to merit them in terms of nutrition.

If you look around a large proportion of the weight problems occur in poorer communities.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 10:38:49
There isn't a genetic link, do research, the Scots used to be a very healthy nation, that's because we lived on herring and oatmeal. Now we eat rubbish. That's why I think we should tax the rubbish food, although I am generally opposed to the nanny state I don't oppose it when it will save me money. We spend an inordinate amount of money treating obesity related conditions and unlike smokers and drinkers we don't tax the products which cause the problem. We should.
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Brodric,

07/04/2009 10:39:21
Demonising people from smokers to obesity, is not the answer either.

If you want to talk about the NHS and money, why not demonise people who are depressed and are taking tranquillisers and sleeping pills. Or people with cancer who want expensive drugs to stay alive another six months. Or those who want kids and need IVF. Or the extreme sports enthusiasts who get broken bones on a regular basis.

We should not even think of going down the road of making exclusions at a group level.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 10:47:28
94 No we shouldn't demonise anybody, but we should use what tools we can to disencourage consumption of unhealthy products.
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Brodric,

07/04/2009 11:02:14
95 Observer - what tools would those be?

People on the poverty line need more money, more education, more hope. This could start at home/school where pupils could learn how to make good food using cheaper cuts of meat, for example.

How can we change the attitude of a supermarket? Many people think that supermarkets are cheaper. And they are on a few things. But I rarely use supermarkets, except for the few things. And I shop around. OK it takes a little longer but I have the satisfaction of knowing that, for example, I paid a quarter of the price for the same Finish dishwasher tabs or half the price for the same toilet rolls than in Sainsbury. With what I save, I can buy something nice from a real fishmonger or butcher.
89

Luke Skywalker,

07/04/2009 11:03:43
And in the middle of the article is an advertisement for chocolate!!
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 11:12:56
96 One, I would tax the producers of food who over-salt over-sugar and over-fat their products to create a market which is based on subliminal addiction people don't know they've got.

Two, make home economics a compulsory part of the curriculum. Teach kids it's actually a lot cheaper to make a pot of soup than stick rubbish in the miocrowave.

Three, use planning and other legislation to stop making it so easy for large supermarket chains to drive local shops out of business, and encourage farmers markets etc.

I would also have a go at cars but that's another subject.


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jagbantar,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 11:28:43
OK, back on topic then. Diabetes.
Top of the class Jennifer and Dr. Katherine, you're bang on the money.
Type 2 diabetes has associations with many lifestlye factors - obesity, povery and lack of exercise among them. That does not mean that these thing in themselves cause diabetes, only that they are associated.
The cause of diabetes is a failure of glucose metabolism resulting (in type 2 diabetes) in elevated insulin levels, followed by insulin resistance, then the consequences of weight gain, beta cell burnout etc.
To reverse the epidemic, we need to normalise insulin levels across the population. This means reducing or eliminating sugars and starches as far as possible. The demonisation of fat in the diet is completely misleading and serves only to make people eat yet more carbohydrate.
To say that eating fat will make you fat is as logical as saying eating tomatoes will turn you red.
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 11:37:13
#1:

"As a smoker I am penalised by having to stand outside for my anti-social habit,"

Smoking is NOT anti-social.

"...and am taxed to the hilt. I accept that."

You should NEVER accept the kind of nazi oppression that is dealt out to smokers.

What the hell are you thinking of? Please get a grip!
93

Autism Rights,

Ayrshire 07/04/2009 11:39:38
Dr. Katherine Morrison, Jennie from Inverness and The Meister have all got the right idea about this subject. It is clear that the incidence of diabetes Type II is caused by a number of factors. Whilst a healthy diet and exercise are obvious ways for individuals to try to stop themselves getting this disease, governments have to help people out by strictly regulating the food industry (as per Jennie's comments) and the use and `disposal` of environmental toxins. Take a look at some of these links - the evidence for the role of environmental toxins in many of today's `epidemics` is pretty damning - but there is almost overwhelming political and commercial resistance to the necessary change.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/30/3/622
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/newscience/2007/2007-0405pauletal.html
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T3G-4VT14KP-7&_user=10&_origUdi=B6TC0-4MWXPTD-1&_fmt=high&_coverDate=03%2F09%2F2009&_rdoc=1&_orig=article&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=4bcaee788b12c8ebba75e69e4337827b
- Role of nutrition and environmental endocrine disrupting chemicals during the perinatal period on the aetiology of obesity
http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/15/2/109
- literature review suggest dioxin and arsenic may play a part in the diabetes epidemic.
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 11:51:39
#96 Brodric

Don't be so patronising. How come abuse of cigarettes and alcohol is more prevalant amongst the 'poorer' sections of society? Haven't you seen the hordes of the peely-wally feeding their peely-wally bairns to their main meal of the day at McDonalds? Since when have fruit and veg been any dearer, even from the smaller shops on estates with fewer amenities, than fags, booze and takeaways? These people are adults. They make a choice. You perpetuate this eadultisation of a generation with your implication that they're so stupid they don't know any better. Utter tosh.
95

Autism Rights,

Ayrshire 07/04/2009 11:51:53
Another couple of links for good measure:-
http://www.pptox.dk/Consensus/tabid/72/Default.aspx
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/Members/2009-press-release

The government could also make it a lot easier for people to exercise by providing more cyclepaths - it would help to get children fitter, too, if there were more safe routes to cycle on. It would also help lower our carbon emissions and the levels of pollutants in the air we breathe!

The evidence for the role of environmental toxins as factors in various disabilities and diseases is growing - Autism Rights has drawn attention to this in our submission to a parliamentary inquiry into child and adolescent mental health:-
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3/committees/hs/inquiries/mentalhealthservices/MH36.pdf
www.autismrights.org.uk
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lulach mac gille coemgain,

07/04/2009 14:02:49
Pass the IRN BRU!
97

ArturUK,

Edinburgh 07/04/2009 14:13:40
"Government should be to drive us away from unhealthy habits"

It's not Labour Government inroduced 24 hours Pubs concesions, Super Casinos in big cities or unlimited Alcohol adverts on TV???
98

frostwyrm,

Ontario, Canada 07/04/2009 14:13:56
We are the 'boomer' generationand and will always have the highest amount of anything going around as we get older. The following generations are not so populus and are hopefully learning from our mistakes. lol!
99

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 07/04/2009 14:33:13
Good morning, Charles Linskaill, to you and your DYW.

I see many "Comments Removed" and is that the vile "Scott-Web" who was such a blithering idiot?

If he has been banned we are all grateful.

Good morning to you, Cyber Shebeen.

Thank you for your kind words to me in a recent posting on the subject of my recent loss. They gave me quite solace during these dark days.

Type 2 Diabetes and be controlled by Metformin, Gliclazide (sp. ?), moderate non-impact exercise such as brisk walking and bicycling, going to a gym to walk the treadmill and do muscle-stretching exercises (they promote muscle tone and get the circulation going), using a sugar substitute such as Splenda (sucralose NOT apertame!), eating a high protein/low-carbohydrate diet with plenty of vegetables (preferably organic if you grow your own or can afford them in the shops),being monitored by a diabetic medical professional - especially an endocrinologist who specialises in lipids, and monitoring your blood-sugar levels with a meter at least twice ad day, and not worring too much because, believe or not, that can raise you blood sugars.

Two glasses of red wine at evening will stabilise your blood sugar levels while you sleep - a VERY pleasant presciption for diabetic health.
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spaghettimonster,

07/04/2009 14:43:51
It is terrifying that so many people spew numerous factual errors on this subject in such a confident manner...
101

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

07/04/2009 15:06:20
108...I'm pretty sure you will have some nice memories to comfort you when you are missing your loved one Timothy Charles...

A good way to avoid diabetes is to have parents who do not let you indulge in all the garbage you so desire...it seems that some parents just cant say no nowadays.....

Why was Scottwebs posts removed?...they were relevant and not offensive....well he did say his posts would be removed and he was right!
102

Eve,

Scotland 07/04/2009 15:29:30
#1 Observer,: You cannae compare smoking to fatty foods, for a very good reason being. The human body need some dietary fat, OK people consume far to much of it at present BUT it's still an important nutrient and should never be completely cut out of a healthy balanced diet.

Where as Smoking has no health benefits what so ever, and also harms those who are unfortunet to come in to contact. Personally I get stomach cramps from passive smoking, and before any smoker tells me I'm talking nonces. It's well known that cigarette smoke cause irritation to Per-menstruation and menstruation cramps.

Any way it is complete naive to put obesity purely down to eating food which is high in fat, when food that are also high in sugar, and the lack of exercises have their parts to play as well. And in many case it is an emotional issue which turn the individual to go on binges, it's like a form of self harm.

Healthy snacks and components of meals should be made more accessible and cheaper than they are currently sold at. Supermarkets rip of their manufactures and suppliers profit form time to time, it's time that the supermarkets lowered their profit to make fruit and vegetables cheaper.

Also we need to raise the hopes and faiths (make them feel good about themselves) of these people who confort eat because as long as they are feeling like s"£$^ they are going to carry on binge eating. Don't be niavie and think that someone who eats to fill an emotional hole want shop lift to feed it, cause some of them will if they can't afford it.
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Eve,

Scotland 07/04/2009 15:41:46
Diabetes UK have claimed for about 10 years now that the number of people with diabetes Type 2 are twice of that of thoes who have been diognosed with the condtion.

Some times I wonder what the number of people who are becoming diganosed going up actualy means. There has been a number of diffrent campaigns rasieing the awarness of diabetes. Which surely should raise the question: Is the prevelence of diabetes type 2 really going up or are people and medical proffesnals just getting better at spoting the conditon?

It's just a thought!!!
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Mcsnagpile,

07/04/2009 16:40:58
Diabetes has nothing to do with lack of exercise nor obesity. It is just that obese people have eaten more garbage than most. When you are carting around a ton of lard it is not so easy to be sprite. Hidden poison packages in the form of fast foods-- burgers and chips and all the rest-more than the bankers are fooled.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 18:12:26
Eve, of course there is a necessity for some fat in the diet, but too many people wolf down empty calories which contain unhealthy fat not needed by the body. One of the best ways of warding off depression is excercise, which would also help to control weight. There are numerous very simple steps people can take to control obesity and the Government should be taking what action it can to encourage people to do that. Look around you, we are a nation of fatties and it's a health time bomb waiting to explode.
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Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

07/04/2009 18:37:59
101...Smoking most certainly is anti-social...I went for a meal last night and had to endure two woman sitting next to me lighting up after they finished their food...one chain smoked and the other (pregnant) insisted on blowing the smoke my direction..they should have had the decency to bog off and polute the air down a dark close somewhere..or in the privacy of their own homes...

FACT....cigarette smoke is disgusting and when you are trapped in close proximity and are not a smoker you have to go home stinking like an old filthy ashtray...it causes health problems to smokers and passive smokers alike....regardless of your protestations....
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DeeFlymaster,

07/04/2009 18:50:32
Healthy eating advice: eat more grains, eat more polyunsaturated vegetable fats, eat more soya, cut out meat, eat less sat fat, eat more fruit, take your statins. Result: diabetes, cancer, Alzheimers and obesity. This is not coincidence. When people ate less grains, real butter, real meat, no unfermented soya and statins hadn't been invented these diseases were unknown. In 30 years of 'healthy eating' advice the experts have managed to destroy the health of a nation. Thank Goodness I know better, I avoid all grains, all polys, all soya and sugar and fruit and eat real fats, real meat, and plenty of dairy. I also make sure I get out in the sunshine to get my vit D. The experts have a lot to answer for, follow their advice and become a patient, don't follow it and stay healthy.
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DeeFlymaster,

07/04/2009 18:53:23
Forgot to add, diabetes is 'diagnosed' far too easily because doctors get QOF funding if they have plenty of diabetics on their books. Points make prizes.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 07/04/2009 19:08:13
117 DeeFlymaster

I feel you are misinformed and wrong in your supposition.

It is better to err on the side of caution than have undiagnosed diabetes causing blindness, amputations, heart and stroke attack, etc.

Also, one of the primary indicators of have a disposition to getting diabetes - both Type 1 and Type 2 - is if your parent had diabetes and

Also, here in Canada, if you are of Native (Status Indian) or Inuit ancestry the levels in those communities is shockingly high.


By the way, I have a friend who is insulin dependent and he was informed by his docrinologist/epidemiologist that he was actually a Type 2 Diabetic who was insulin-dependent rather a Type 1 Diabetic because he was not diagnosed with the medical condition before the age of 5 years but rather when he was fifty.

Innnteresting ...

This is the current medical theory and diagnosis here is Canada and maybe elsewhere. Does anybody know of other countries who have taken this stance?

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DeeFlymaster,

07/04/2009 19:35:38
I am not misinformed, I have made a special study of the antics of the medical profession and how they artificially enhance their clinics in order to claim extra funding.

As an aside,only Inuit who have abandoned their traditional diets and adopted Westernised diets high in processed grains, starches and sugars, who smoke and drink copious alcohol tend towards diabetes and heart disease. It is unknown in a native traditional diet eating Inuit - fat, flesh and fish. It is also unknown in a flesh/fat eating hunter gatherer tribe that has no truck with Western 'healthy' diets.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/04/2009 22:04:32
It's pretty obvious what you should eat. We are basically animals what would happen if there was a nuclear war or a meteor destroyed the earth what would the survivors do ? Live off the land. Meat, milk, grains, fruit, vegetables, herbs and spices. Not McDonalds.
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Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

07/04/2009 22:33:19
116...Nuthin wrong with a bit off soya..as long as its organic...the Japanese neck the stuff and it has not caused them any harm now has it?
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DeeFlymaster,

09/04/2009 09:54:26
The Japanese do not 'neck' the stuff, they eat far less than you would think, it is used as a condiment not a foodstuff; the average daily amount of soy protein consumed in Japan is about eight grams for men and seven for women - less than two teaspoons. But they only traditionally ate soy that had been fermented for about 18 months, Modern genetically modified soy is fermented for just a few days and the toxins are not neutralised. Being organic makes not a jot of difference. The Japanese, and Asians in general, have much higher rates of other types of cancer, particularly cancer of the esophagus, stomach, pancreas and liver. Asians throughout the world also have high rates of thyroid cancer. Soy is incredibly toxic to humans and animals and has no place in the food chain. The only people who think it does are the growers who don't care about health, only money.

 

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