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Published Date: 12 May 2009
CONSERVATIVE leader David Cameron vowed today that he would take action against Tory MPs who "abused" their Commons expenses.
Mr Cameron said the conduct of some Tory MPs was "out of order" following the latest disclosures that taxpayer-funded allowances were used to pay for the upkeep of country estates and maintenance of private swimming pools.

"I am angry about what has happened. It is out of order and some of it is abuse of taxpayers' money and I am going to deal with it," he said.

The Conservative leader arrived early at the party's Westminster headquarters to take personal charge of the situation.

It is understood that the options he is considering include demanding the MPs involved repay the claims which are excessive.

Any who refuse could face the ultimate sanction of having the Conservative whip withdrawn – effectively expelling them from the parliamentary party.

The latest embarrassing revelations about MPs' allowances – which also include an expenses claim for horse manure – come amid evidence that the controversy has hit confidence in both main parties.

According to the Daily Telegraph's disclosures from the leaked expenses receipts, senior Tory backbenchers Michael Ancram, James Arbuthnot and Stewart Jackson claimed for maintenance of swimming pools.

Former shadow defence secretary Mr Ancram, who is the Marquess of Lothian, claimed £98.58 for the repair of a swimming pool boiler, the paper said. He also asked for reimbursement of £1,117.43 for a gardening bill which included "cleaning up moss etc" at a house in Wiltshire.

Mr Arbuthnot, who is chairman of the Defence Select Committee, claimed £1,471 for garden and swimming pool costs, as well as £2,433 "for the expense of our housekeeper".

Tory communities spokesman Mr Jackson also claimed £304.10 for refurbishing his swimming pool. All three MPs have said they will repay the swimming pool costs.

David Heathcoat-Amory, a backbench MP, claimed more than £380 for horse manure, with other items including £2 of mouse poison and £1.95 for sunflower seeds, according to the disclosures.

Among the other claims were from Douglas Hogg, a former Agriculture Secretary, who claimed more than £2,000 for clearing the moat on his Lincolnshire estate.

Sir Michael Spicer, chairman of the powerful Tory backbench 1922 Committee, also spent £5,650 of taxpayers' money having his garden maintained.

And Sir Alan Haselhurst, Deputy Speaker of the Commons, is reported to have claimed £142,000 on his country house, and £12,000 for gardening bills over five years.

Former Home Secretary David Davis also claimed for more than £10,000 of home renovations and furnishings, including a new £5,700 portico.

They are the latest Tory MPs to have their claims exposed after the Conservative front bench had its allowances laid bare in yesterday's paper.

Mr Hogg insisted that all his claims were "within both the spirit and the letter" of Commons rules but denied the taxpayer had paid for the cleaning of his moat.

That item was featured on a schedule of all the expenses incurred on the house supplied to the Commons authorities "in the interests of transparency", he said.

"I then accompanied it with a letter which set out what I thought was proper and claimable. The schedule was not a claims schedule."

He told BBC News: "It is true that the system is terribly flawed.

"But as to claims that I made, they were agreed in advance and in writing and (were) all within both the spirit and the letter of the rules.

"Members of Parliament who are living in two places are entitled to, and need to, claim the cost of running two places."

A Populus poll for The Times, conducted over the weekend as the expenses revelations were being made, showed tonight that support for Labour slumped by four points in the past month to 26%.

The Conservatives were also down four points on 39%.

The House of Commons Commission decided last night to bring forward the official publication of MPs' expenses receipts to put the Telegraph's disclosures in "perspective".

But it is unlikely to take place any more than a few weeks earlier than the previous target date of mid-July.

Meanwhile, there was growing pressure on Commons Speaker Michael Martin after his outburst yesterday against Labour MP Kate Hoey when she questioned the decision to call in the police to investigate the leak to the Daily Telegraph.

Tory MP Douglas Carswell disclosed that he was actively canvassing colleagues from all parties to support an attempt to oust Mr Martin.

"It is because of this man that we have got into this situation," he said.

"Anyone who is capable of doing the job would have seen all of this coming and realised that in a modern democracy we need transparency. He failed to do that."

Mr Carswell said he was seeking six fellow MPs to support a Commons motion before tabling it next week.

Labour peer Lord Foulkes came to Mr Martin's defence, dismissing Mr Carswell's motion as an irrelevance.

"Douglas Carswell has put down an early-day motion. There are more than 1,000 of those out, most of them congratulating their local football team on promotion. Can you remember one being debated, let alone being voted upon?" he told the BBC Radio 4 today programme.

"I think you and others are stirring things up deliberately by interviewing people like Douglas Carswell, a very new member."

He said Mr Martin had "quite rightly" reprimanded Ms Hoey following her intervention the Commons.

"Kate Hoey goes on television and radio all the time judging her colleagues, treating them as guilty before they have been proved (guilty) and I think that is really quite improper and the Speaker was right to do that," he said.

Mr Cameron brought forward a meeting of the Shadow Cabinet, scheduled for this afternoon, to this morning to discuss the expenses controversy.

The Tory leader will this afternoon address a hastily-arranged meeting of the parliamentary party in the House of Commons.

The meeting comes amid speculation that the row could lead to Tory MPs being required to repay some of their expenses or even resigning from frontbench positions.

A party source declined to discuss what action Mr Cameron might take, saying only that "nothing can be ruled out at this stage".

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cam2644,

12/05/2009 10:56:36
George Foulkes has a point about even higher paid media figures ripping into politicians.The problem is that he is just about the last figure the public will take moral lectures from.
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Bigwull,

edinburgh 12/05/2009 10:57:47
Parliament should be dissolved, all sitting MP's should be barred from standing ever again for public office. Time for a complete clear out. This is the only way any Government would ever again be trusted.
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hibbyspurs,

12/05/2009 11:06:56
I think the proper term we're looking for is "SHAME" & shame on every MP who has flaunted, bent or manipulated the rules/ system.

However whilst we sit stunned and appalled as our elected representatives raise their snouts out the truth only to realise too late that we've been watching them and their caught red handed with their sticky trotters in the public till, thousands lose homes, jobs and lives are ruined.

Shame on them all........

However a little credit goes to David Cameron who it appears unlike Gordon Brown is prepared to really punish his parties MP's who've been "out of order" by making them pay it all back or removing the party whip which would effectively ensure they would be out of a job next May/ June.

Meanwhile the PM dithers and makes excuses for the excuse of a speaker MR Martin. Shame on Brown for this alone.

Dont forget that come hell or high water you and I will have a straight choice between Gordon Brown or David Cameron at the next election and looking at this issue alone I know who'd be getting my (very reluctant) vote at this time.

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W Smith,

Middle East 12/05/2009 11:38:43
The Telegraph have done an outstanding job.

They've shown up the Scottish media for what it is - so biased towards Labour to the point of being totally pretentious.

Okay so The Telegraph leaked the dirt on Labour first before releasing its ammunition against the Tories.

Its still a job well done.

The "Smallville" Scottish media can be a wee bit claustraphobic.

The truths out now and it wasn't thanks to any 'investigative journalism' from BBC Scotland or The Scotsman.

Quite the opposite.

We know what is really going on in spite of them.

Labour propaganda masquerading as journalism.

Shocking really.

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Doh,

12/05/2009 11:50:11

Will Cameron punish himself?
According to the other article he has claimed
£141,000 in second-home expenses.

As millionaire he can afford to pay it back.

God bless Thatcher high priestess of greed is good,
Worshipped by Torie and New Labour.

We need regime change.
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Elephant,

Linlithgow 12/05/2009 11:53:27
If you didn't laugh... I'm sitting here in my prefab wondering how my taxes managed to fund a toff's jacuzzi. But then the civil list is virtually the same thing. Maybe the Scotsman should go for a scoop by revealing the Royal's expenses with a freedom of info request eh? Shame that the Lib Dems don't seem to be benefiting in any polls from their probity or sound economic predictions. Shame that the majority public will be gutless when it comes to the ballot box and return the tories to power rather than a genuine change.
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Ewan Randall,

12/05/2009 11:59:37
Will people not be asking why a party leader such as David Cameron wasn't already in charge of passing on expenses claims for his own party?

Is he more angry at his MPs for abusing the system or for being caught abusing the system?

Will David Cameron be asking his MPs to pay back any of the money?
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Paddi,

12/05/2009 12:02:21
Brown is only "sorry" now they've been caught red handed fingers in the till.

Martin doesn’t get it, in fact him and his missus must rank as the worst offenders.

Cameron will saying absolutely anything to get the right sound bite and is of no substance what so ever, they know this has been going on it was obvious when they remained silent during the Jacqui Smith saga.

The politicians still don’t get it, today in another article it said that the minimum wage was set to rise by 7p £5.80 per hour!!!!! And all a while these overpaid functionaries, rubber stamping what they’re told to vote for and against are bleating that they don’t get paid enough that’s the disgrace in all of this. We don’t need 646 MP’s, the European parliament has a 100 more for the whole of the continent!! Cut their number in Westminster and introduce PR, NOW
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Ewan Randall,

12/05/2009 12:06:41
(#6) – (Doh) – In your opinion do you believe it is a regime or culture change that is more needed for real change to occur?
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Ewan Randall,

12/05/2009 12:13:12
(#11) – (Paddi) – Let me get this straight, are you agreeing with Barak Obama who considered David Cameron to be a lightweight politician?

What makes you believe this to be the case?

Do you think that as a millionaire he shouldn’t be able to have expenses to pay off his house expenses?
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Alan B,

12/05/2009 12:26:32
All the mps in serious breach of expenses should be forced to resign and pay back the money. That should include anyone:
1)flipping properties; doing up one property at publics expense and then switching 2nd home to another to do that up to.
2)those doing up property to sell on at a profit.
3)those claiming for 2nd homes and their expenses while living in a grace and favour property.
4)those tory type of extravegant claims for moats and swimming pools.

The smaller silly claims like barbacues etc claims should be repaid.

We have to differentiate between those abusing the expense system and whether the expense system is too generous.
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Ewan Randall,

12/05/2009 12:31:22
(#14) - (Alan B) - Do you think that anyone would argue against that?
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JCA REID,

Annan 12/05/2009 12:58:25
When all is said & done...will this lot pay back the 'extra' expenses they have calimed? In any other walk of life they would have been sacked & any chance of further employment negligble. Likewise criminal prosecutions would be doled out like confetti!
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Observer,,

Glasgow 12/05/2009 13:00:33
There are quite a few MP's who haven't made huge expense claims. For example, as featured in the Herald, Labour MP for Luton North Kelvin Hopkins. He lives in the same street at Theresa Villiers, who famously claimed £35,000 to repair dry rot in her husband's Southampton home, 100 miles from her Luton constituency. Whereas she can do that, having a flat in Westminster, Mr Hopkins her Parliamentary colleague commutes to London on Thameslink trains (you know, like we would do). One year he claimed as little as £296. The most he has claimed ever was £2156.

Let's not tar them all with the same brush. There are some of them who don't have their noses in the trough, I think perhaps the Telegraph should do a wee sidebar article on them.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 12/05/2009 13:02:42
18 £35,000 should read £25,000 (like it makes a huge difference...)
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Alan B,

12/05/2009 13:23:03
#Castle Douglas

The scottish parliament regularly public expenses and as such the same abuse has not been taking place or we would have been made aware of it.

The McLetchie resignation over taxis forced more openess on the scottish parliament.

The resignations of McLeish and then McLetchie has meant that the political parties in scotland will be aware of what can happen if you do not follow the rules.

Wendies resignation for breaking the rules has underlined that.

That the above were forced to resign is a positive that it will not be tolerated. The new openess of Wesminster is to be welcomes as all it does is expose what has been going on for yrs. The problem is so far it has not forced the resignations of the Darlings, Browns and Smiths etc.

It is also to be noted that the sp also changed the rules previously to stop msp benefiting from house price inflation when we pay for their 2nd home. Something that was not corrupt as it was cheaper than us renting a place for them but clearly something that is not good when msp were benefiting financially from the system that was meant to be their to ensure they were not out of pocket for living away from home.



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Tormod,

Auld Reekie 12/05/2009 13:27:01
Quote from Ian Dale's Blog

"I'm hearing that as a first step, David Cameron will ask the Shadow Cabinet to voluntarily repay any expense which is against the spirit of the rules, even if it is within the actual rules. Clearly, that will be a matter for interpretation. More in a moment.

UPDATE: David Cameron has called a meeting of the Parliamentary Party for 2pm."

Is Cameron about to hit Macavity with another tactical nuke?
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Alan B,

12/05/2009 13:31:32
#Ewan

Unfortunately it will not happen. Both labour and the tories will try to get away with an apology and hope that if they change the rules then it can be put to bed and forgotten without removing those in serious breach as i outlined.

If Cameron cahonas he would sack all those that breach the criteria i outlined and force all those with minor issues to pay back the monies. But i cannot see it happpening.

It may even make good politics for him as if labour were to follow suit and be pressured into it it would mean the resignations of Brown, Darling, Smith, Hoon, Blears, McNulty senior cabinet members. While much of the tory breaches have been their toff grandees with moats and swimming pools and only a couple of shaddow cabinet members.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 12/05/2009 13:34:40
22 Well I would if I was him. That would be a master-stroke. And let's face it they can afford to pay it back ! I bet a lot of the Labour crew couldn't.
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Alan B,

12/05/2009 13:36:15
#Tormod

If that comes about while it will put more pressure on brown (particularly if it forses brown to follow suit as it would mean he should repay his own 2nd home as he was living in the grace and favour home in 11 Downing Street for his time as chancellor). But Cameron should go all the way and sack those that have seriously breach the rules particularly round flipping and doing up homes sell on at a profit at the tax payers expense. Sacking those that charged us for swimming pools etc would really put pressure on brown. Something he could not deliver as it would mean his own resignation.

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Tormod,

Auld Reekie 12/05/2009 13:45:52
24, 25 Agree on both, as the tory front bench are very wealthy and could repay it quite easily.

Cameron also has the luxury of sacking those who were taking the James Riddle with the option of promotion after the next election

The pressure would be then on GB to follow suit and would his party do so?
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Iainbroch,

12/05/2009 13:55:16
I guess Cameron will be paying a visit to Labours front benchers as well then as they are all Tories aswell.
Lord Haw Haw Fookes spitting to the defense of Michael Martin - best laugh I have had today. With Broonie still defending Martin - so much for the apology? Says it all really.
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hibbyspurs,

12/05/2009 14:09:02
#22

It would appear he is...... Even in a situation that should be draining support from every party in Westminster it appears Cameron may be on the verge of "flipping" the whole thing to his favour.

Whilst Labour bumbles around it would appear that Cameron is about to line every Tory MP whos "out of order" up and make them give the money back and most likely issue a public apology for any wrongdoing. I also think one or two of the worst offenders or perhaps a few who are close to retirement anyway will announce that they'll stand down at the next election.

Invariably these will end up being tory MP's who are pretty wealthy anyway and will take the fall for "the good of the party".....

If this happens it will all be too late for the government and any "following of suit" will be seen as Broon trying to close the stable door after the horse has well & truly bolted....

End result = Cameron takes another step toward No.10 Downing Street.
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Tormod,

Auld Reekie 12/05/2009 14:23:03
28 That's what I thought as well, what also shows is that Cameron is thinking on his feet with his eyes on the prize.

The tories now have Labour in two tactical pincer movements, the first one is the post office vote and second is the expenses row.

I am not a natural tory, but I have to admire his tactical political nous, mind you a donut could do a better job than Gordon Brown.
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 12/05/2009 14:23:21
And just what are you going to do, David? You are like all the others, including Salmond and Brown - wind and pisss.
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Ken26,

Ontario, Canada 12/05/2009 14:32:42
Oliver Cromwell said it best in his address to the Rump Parliament in April 1653:

“You have sat too long for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”
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hibbyspurs,

12/05/2009 14:46:33
#29 - Agree

Also the fact the the Telegraph went to town on Labour first bought Cameron some breathing space. Firs toff it allowed him to apologise on behlaf of his before the Telegraph printed the tory stories.

More importantly it bought him the time to rattle out of his own MP's whos likely to be held up as a "naughty boy/ girl" by the press & set his damage limitation plans in force.

He's pulled it off by the looks of it and anyone who thinks he's a lightweight should look again after this.

Whilst the good ship "Labour" is holed beneath the waterline and taking on water which the pumps cant hope to keep up with; the good ship "tory" is hit but she'll float captain.

#31 - Agree but it's not that easy. The two party system rules and if things get much worse for Labour it could be a one party system come June 2010.

Like all brave captains it appears that Brown will go down with the ship regardless that everyone is telling him to man the lifeboats.

The only thing that would give Labour a cat in hells chance of beating Cameron and the tories now is:

1: Gordon Brown reisgns
2: Alistair Darling Resigns
3: The whole cabinet resigns
4: The lame excuse of a speakear Martin chucks himself off of Tower bridge.

It is a truly sad time for British democracy that the house of COMMONS has acted in such a trechorous manner towards the entire citizenry of this nation. The Queen must be livid.....
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Iainbroch,

12/05/2009 15:11:05
re 16

The Hootsman will never regain any credibility as a newspaper. Did it have any in the first place? Much like WestMidden has lost all its credblity. There again did it have any credibility to lose.

Broonie is a global laughing stock and some of the most corrupt govts and politicians in the world are now looking at this and wondering how it is they forgot to claim for tampax, cleaners, plasma screen TVs, gardeners, second and third homes.

The Hootsman is a joke as a newspaper, it seems it is prepared to go to the wall totally in its unswerving support of a man and system and a Union that is damaged beyond repair.
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Cauchy Riemann,

Wales 12/05/2009 15:33:58
An 'apology' means nothing unless there is some sort of change. Brown's apology has been simply words.

At least Cameron has come out saying things have to be repaid and expects them to or else face action.

If you say 'Sorry' and do nothing, you are basically only being sorry for being caught and you are proclaiming that, in fact, you have every right to milk the system to a degree that amounts to theft.

If there are reparations then at least the 'Sorry', even if it is only to save face, actually means something.

Labour's top brass 'Sorry' so far is actually insulting. It is a proclamation that they believe that their 'milking' it is actually fine.

Labour's 'top people' once again come out sleazy and corrupt, and lacking in leadership.

I agree with Observer's comment that those who aren't milking the system - we ought to hear more about.
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hibbyspurs,

12/05/2009 16:08:43
#34 - Agree totally.

Me dear old mum used to say (usually when I had been caught and was saying sorry funnily enough)...... "Actions speak louder than words"

Labour as per usual are only upset because they've been caught with their fingers in the till at least Cameron proposes to do something about it (Again though his actions will speak louder than anything he says).

Labours (The speakers) that the "leak" should be investigated by the police is an offence to the people of the country as well. why is that Mr Martin? Is it perhaps because what was actually happening was that the government were sifting through the expenses claims prior to their public release in an effort to censor them so that the public would see some breaches but nothing really of any outrage? Perhaps the governments idea was to try and "torpedo" the oppossition by removing some of the worst things about the government but funnily enough all the bad tory bits & pieces would remain?

Browns idea of "transperancy" if it had been his "abridged" version of MP's expenses released would have been nothing more than something akin to Communist censure and propoganda.

Instead the Telegraph have blown them all out of the water by getting their hands on the raw data and pouring it out to a horrified and disgusted populace.

The Telegraph are not to be investigated, they are to be saluted for telling the whole bitter truth on this scandal, the only reason the government wants someone arrested is because it's wee plan of tidying up the claims and covering the worst bits up has backfired.

We know it & they know they're like turkeys at Christmas now.....

The Telegraph needs to be careful now though because I dont think I can ever quite recall a time when the populace have been so angered, remember the poll tax riots anyone? If these sordid stories get much worse & with all the other economic problems theres a real chance of civil unrest in this country to remove this corrupt, incompetent, d
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Tormod,

Auld Reekie 12/05/2009 16:40:15
37 I bumped into a few folk from your village out looking for you, they asked me if I was to bump into you not to give you anything sharp!
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Tormod,

Auld Reekie 12/05/2009 16:41:28
Cameron has pulled another tactical move on the labour party Ian Dale has his whole speech, jings what will Gordon do!
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Dear_Gordon,

12/05/2009 16:58:21
Gene Pool

Look at it objectively. Who is handling this expenses thing better? Serious question.

Tory? - Cameron ordering his lot to pay back the excessive expense claims or they'll be thrown out of the party, then setting up new party oversight on the probity of future claims.

or....

Labour? - Where Martin & Foulkes refuse to back down and continue to argue that it is the public that are wrong. Brown meanwhile says sorry, does absolutely nothing, and then backs Martin as doing a good job.

Even if Brown acts now he will be seen to be following Cameron's lead. He'll also have difficulty imposing his will on his backbenchers, and cabinet for that matter.

Sorry - but even the most ardent Labourite must see that Cameron has handled this better, shown some leadership and probably increased his lead by another 3 or 4 points in the polls.

Call this SNP spin if you like. Disagree if you like. It's pretty obviously true, and the electorate know it.
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Sgian Achlais,

12/05/2009 17:05:33
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Iainbroch,12/05/2009 15:11:05

Totally Agree. I am not quoting for fear of the mods wrath.
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Sgian Achlais,

12/05/2009 17:10:25
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Dear_Gordon,12/05/2009 16:58:21
Gene Pool

Look at it objectively. Who is handling this expenses thing better? Serious question.

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Oh how I laughed this morning listening to the labour party cheerleaders on Radio Scotland. They were quoting Lord Folkes in supportof the Speaker of the House.

Talk about the criminal defending the corrupt.

It just proves the old saying "Thick as Thieves"

Watching the self rightous Labour party squirm. The Tories claims are terrible also.

Socialists should not be doing it out of principle and the Tories should not be doing it because they are already millionaires.

Time to get rid of Westminster. Independence from such corruption is a must.

They put the mafia to shame.
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Sgian Achlais,

12/05/2009 17:15:51
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Gene Pool,12/05/2009 16:49:17
The SNP want the Tories in power in Westminster in the hope that the Tories will damage Scotland and that the SNP will benefit from that damage

The SNP have the gall to describe others as Quislings and traitors.

SNP = BNP = SNP.
Would the SNP go into coalition with the BNP in UK hung parliament?

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Are you still spouting this rubbish.

The SNP are about self government for Scotland for all people and all religions and ethnicities.

The BNP are about white Anglo Saxon, Celtic, Nordic only in the UK and sending all other ethnic groups away.

If you cannot tell the difference you are a very special person indeed.
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Sgian Achlais,

12/05/2009 17:22:07
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Gene Pool,12/05/2009 16:20:12
naturally, the SNP support is talking up the Tories. The SNP support want to see the Tories in power at the next election in the hope that they will damage Scotland.
The SNP want Scotland damaged by the Tories. The SNP are the new Quislings and traitors. Scotland has never had a problem with too few traitors, the SNP want to continue that tradition.

SNP = BNP = SNP.

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So who do you support Gene Pool. You do not say it very clearly.

Lets see.

You do not support the SNP, Lib Dems, BNP or Tories.

Still in the Game- Green, and Labour.

You spend all day providing misinformation, lies and propganda.

I am guessing you are not a supporter of the Green Party.
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Tormod,

Auld Reekie 12/05/2009 17:26:15
40 Talking to yourself in the mirror like that is not healthy!

Why did you post that drivel in post 37?
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Sgian Achlais,

12/05/2009 17:35:03
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Tormod,Auld Reekie 12/05/2009 17:26:15
40 Talking to yourself in the mirror like that is not healthy!

Why did you post that drivel in post 37?

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Tormod,

Probably becuase he was told by his pals at HQ to keep posting. A full spin operation will be required to side track the public off this one.

If I was a small middle east country I would be very worried as all members of Westminster want this to go away.

The working people are struggling to keep their homes, their jobs while MP's are using the peoples money to buy multiple Homes and not doing their jobs.

They are disgraceful.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

12/05/2009 18:11:40
It's very reassuring to see that our great parliamentarian and trough dweller, Lard Foolkes has still the ability to make a complete and utter ar$e of himself.
I was worried that his consuption of vast quantities of vintage wines and Clan McPish 2 year old whisky (on expenses of course) may have addled his small brain, but all is well.
He can still speak rubbish with the best of them!

New Labour - making the rich richer and the peasants poorer.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

12/05/2009 19:11:25
#52 defective Jean Pull,

I think I'll keep my membership of the SNP, the ONLY party for ALL the people of Scotland.

Must be hard for you watching your beloved comrades sink into the mire. I'm really enjoying it!!
Lard Foolkes was outstanding today!
The icing on the cake will be Comrade Murphy's and Comrade Marshall's expenses being made public.
Bring them on!!!!

Most of my workmates aren't political but are all saying they will be voting SNP at the next election.

New Labour Sleaze - Limos to Parkhead - sparkly toilet seats!!
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Iainbroch,

12/05/2009 20:39:22
re 10

Unfortunately it is not going to happen. The same defective DNA as the primordial soupy one!
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GOODBYE LONDON LABOUR,

Aberdeen 12/05/2009 21:02:25
Come on,Scotland,let's rid ourselves of the Westminster cesspit. We have subsidised England for decades and look what the Labour and Tory sleazebags have done with our cash. SNP on course to wipe out Labour in the North East...
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