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Published Date: 13 September 2007
COLOMBIAN forces have captured the intimate diary of a Dutch woman who joined the country's Marxist rebels, in which she gives a rare view of life with the guerrillas deep in the jungle.
In July, elite troops swept into the camp of a commander of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), known by the alias of Carlos Antonio Lozada.

He was wounded in the firefight and carried off by bodyguards, while women in the unit, wh
o were bathing at the time, had to flee into the jungle in their underwear.

As the troops sifted through the camp, they came across two surprises. The first was Lozada's laptop computer, which held a treasure trove of intelligence, including confidential army plans of counter-guerrilla operations, revealing the extent of FARC infiltration into the military.

The second surprise was two battered notebooks, the journals of a guerrilla, written in Dutch.

Among the entries was: "24 November, 2006. I am tired, tired of the FARC, tired of the people, tired of communal life. Tired of never having anything for myself. And this might be worth it if I knew what we were fighting for."

That woman, known in the FARC as "Eillen", is actually Tanja Nijmeijer, 29 - her identity was confirmed by the Dutch after a photo of her stored on the captured computer was published. Her parents live a middle-class neighbourhood in Denekamp, near the German border.

She is a languages graduate from the University of Groningen, who first went to Colombia in 2000 as part of a university exchange to improve her Spanish. She returned in 2002 and entered guerrilla ranks.

The FARC have long recruited women, who make up about a third of the 12,000-strong army. The group, founded in 1964, is now the most powerful insurgency in the western hemisphere and, as a result of the drugs trade, perhaps the richest in the world. Despite having so much cash, guerrillas receive no salary, yet once in the ranks cannot leave and are subject to fierce discipline that controls every facet of life.

On 23 August last year, "Eillen" wrote: "I called home! Mum cried and Dad too. Now all I have to wait for is my punishment."

She went on: "At times I want to stop following orders. Following the orders of a bunch of sexists that try to kill birds with hunting rifles. I feel like a nobody all day; I am not useful and I have to do what every idiot tells me or I get fined."

Control in the ranks of the FARC extends to relationships. If a woman guerrilla girl wants to be with a man the commander has to give his approval.

The Dutch woman's journal revealed: "June 13. I have got a friend. We have negotiated and he is going to speak to the boss to see if we can be together. Without even a kiss or anything. Pure negotiation. The guy is interesting and handsome."

It is clear from the diaries that there is a great deal of promiscuity in the guerrilla ranks and, it appears, AIDS.

"21 July. There are two comrades with AIDS, perhaps more. Here, nobody uses condoms. As far as I know the girl has no idea what it means. She told me the news smiling and her partner does not appear worried. A third girl who slept with the guy is well depressed."

The FARC pride themselves on equality of life in the movement and an adherence to Communist ideology. Yet it appears there are the privileged and the unprivileged, and "Eillen" sees herself in the latter category. "What will it be like when we take power? The women of the commanders will have Ferraris, breast implants and eat caviare. At least that is how it seems," she wrote.

The Dutch intelligence service is investigating the FARC's reported recruiting activities in the Netherlands, and it is also attempting to ascertain whether "Eillen" is now being held against her will by the group.

Her friends and family told the Dutch authorities she joined of her own free will, against her parents' wishes, because she wanted to help the victims of poverty and oppression in Colombia. Now, however, the diary shows she is tortured with uncertainty and regrets.

"13 June. Sometimes I dream of my mum and Elle and I wake up crying. Always the same question: did I do the right thing? Would I have been happy if I had stayed a civilian in Holland? What would I be doing? Would I be going out with someone, married, with kids?"

With her diaries having been published for the world - and her FARC bosses - to read, there are fears for her future.

Ms Nijmeijer's family told the Dutch broadcaster NOS that they had kept quiet about their daughter's involvement with the FARC out of concern for her safety, and fear that her diary's appearance in the media could endanger her life.

"By joining the FARC, she has gone extremely far in her idealism," they said. "We have the strong impression that she has been influenced badly by certain contacts. Because of her idealism, she was naturally also very sensitive to external influences."

According to the family, Ms Nijmeijer's mother travelled to a guerrilla camp in 2005 to try to persuade her daughter to return home, but "Tanja's mind was not to be changed".

HOSTAGES KILLED BY GUNSHOTS


ELEVEN Colombian state legislators killed while being held by the FARC died of multiple gunshot wounds, a team of international forensic experts investigating their causes of death has concluded.

But authorities said it could still take months before they are able to sort out conflicting accounts of the events leading up to the hostages' deaths.

The International Committee of the Red Cross recovered the bodies on Sunday in the southern state of Narino, following a week-long mission in a nearly impenetrable jungle.



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1

Conan,

Here 13/09/2007 01:50:38

Headline should have read .... Dutch Lefty Airhead Gets Just Deserts .... hopefully if she is ever captured she will be shot after a thorough interrogation.

2

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 13/09/2007 03:04:35

-- "Tanja's mind was not to be changed".

"We were given thinking pods but were never in them"

3

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 07:30:57

... what crass propaganda ...!!

How do the C.I.A and the US government dream up this garbagio.

Gee you Yanks are struggling ...

How was this leaked??

Does the author of this come from H.Q. in Langley Virginia in the USA.

COLOMBIA BEING THE PRINCIPLE ALLY of the Americans in the region
... and given all the Yankee junkies (lots of them Corporate Executives) who love filling their nostrils daily with as much Colombian Ajax as they can.

Gringo go home !!!

... stop propping up unsavoury regines like the government in Bogota.
Stop all your "military advisers"

Stop intervening in the internal affairs of your Latin American neighbours


This kind of story is typical misinformation

The Hootsmon shot stop being apologists for crass American propaganda.

4

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 08:07:59

Anyway Gringo

... keep being a junkie Corporate Executive ...
Get as much Colombian Ajax up yer arrogant nose.

Keep fortifying the 'hi tech Berlin Wall'
... i.e. the Tortilla Curtain (US / Mexico frontier)

Keep arming / aiding / abetting unsavoury regimes like the one in Colombia

All you do is put more ammo in the gun of people like Hugo Chavez who can point at US double standards / complicity ...


Double standards like the so-called War on Terror ...

ahem ...
What about Luis Posada Carilles ...

any of our embarressing American cousins fancy justifying how Bush's Administration has give this terrorist Posada Carilles such an easy ride (he murdered lots of innocents ... but the US govt don't care)

Hmmm??

5

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 09:09:29

This is just the same old same old.

Some daft lassie from a comfy life in Holland decides it would be really exciting to get involved in someone else's civil war, without really understanding the issues, or the local culture and now finds herself trapped in a prison of her own making.

The same thing happened a lot in the 1970s - witness the Red Brigades, Read army Fraction, Bahder Meinhoff etc.

Some of these stupid young people were naive idealist, others were basically fascists, addicted to a form of pornography of violence - it's really exciting to point guns at terrified people and see how scared they get, while assuring yourself that you are a freeedom fighter and not just a killer with a gun.

I wonder how many killings this girl has caused or been complicit in? How many people have spent their last moments looking at the face of a murderer who regards their death as part of some sort of grotesque gap year with bullets?

It's a very bad idea to get totally sucked in to the wars of another country. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, its unlikely that one will have any real overview of the complexities of it.

I once met a woman who spent much of her time raising money for the Tamil Tigers because she had spent a year sleeping with a Sri Lankan Tamil. The fact that the money she raised was going to be used to buy weapons and kill people didn't really matter to her. It was just like supporting a football team. I often wonder what she would do if she started going out with a Sinhalese man. Maybe raise money for each side alternative days with Sunday off, or perhaps the takings on that day could be spent buying bandages for the wounded on both sides?

Weterners from safe comfortable homes have no business treating life or death conflicts as a way of having an adventure. If you want thrills take up snow boarding, climb a mountain or go to a theme park. If this fool ends up with a bullet in her head she will

6

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:14:12

you can see the gullible editors of the Hootsmon when their Catholic Irish Alcoholic (C.I.A.) 'ADVISERS' ...
Dreamed up this piece of propaganda.

Irish Alkie Yank: "Now son ... I want you Press Corp guys and 'embedded journos to pay attention."

Hootsmon hack: "Yes sirr sir ... a sus ordenes comandante!!"

CIA Boss: "Hey do you think the Press Corp will get away with this kinda blatant propaganda?"

Irish Alkie: "Yes sirr sir ... en escocia la prensa esta tonta !!"

Hootsmon hack: "Yea ... I can confirm that the Scottish readers of our rag ... will swallow this lie ... hook line and sinker mate ...!!"

7

P.C Murdoch,

13/09/2007 09:14:45

3&4.
Sounds like the same Socialist Workers Party retoric I used to hear in Uni back in the 70,s.

8

P.C Murdoch,

13/09/2007 09:17:46

#5.
Well put.
What did she think it was Club 18-30 with guns?

9

Findlay Thompson,

Novosibrisk 13/09/2007 09:22:01

Maria...

Your so well informed. Are you with MI6, DAS or DIPOL?

10

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:22:26

#5
Puzzler ...

Why are the CIA and Bush's government so keen to discredit the opposition ...??

Could it be:
1. They know they are fighting a losing battle.

2. People know they support terrorists like Luis Posada Carilles?

3. They are genuinely worried that their "War on Drugs" ... i.e. propping up / arming / assisting the Bogota regime is going 'tits-up'??

4. Hugo Chavez is convincing too many people that the USA really is a threat to the region and that Bush is "Mr. Dangerous" ...??

5. The American tax-payer whos that no matter how much they spend making the USA /Mexico border their own high tech Berlin Wall ... it will still get trashed like its German counterpart???

11

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 09:25:03

3, 4 & 6

I am noot sure what precisely you are driveling on about. Your posts are incoherent nonsense. What have Irish Catholics and Alcoholics to do with the CIA precisely?

You seem to be quite a paranoid person. There are plenty of examples of stupid wee lassies (and laddies) that have joined terrorist groups or run away to fight in foreign wars. Have a look at the memoirs of Astrid Proll, former Bahder Meinhoff groupie for example. A delightful lady.

But no matter. Obviously I am simply a stooge of the CIA, KGB, Mossad/Freemason conspiracy in league with the giant lizards and the super intelligent gerbils from planet Tharg.

Better put your cooking foil helmet on. Yoiu have exposed our plans and I am sending kller radio waves your way starting now!

12

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:26:06

Answers on a postcard to:
Catholic Irish Alcoholics Department, Langley Virginia, USA.

OR:

THE JUNKIES IN CORPORATE AMERICA
... WHO CAN'T GET ENOUGH COLOMBIAN AJAX UP THEIR NOSTRILS ...

13

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:31:07

#11
Puzzler ...
answer the question ...
Why do they finance / arm / aid the Colombian government ??
Whilst calling it the "War on Drugs"

Why are so many Corporate Execs hooked on Colombian Coke??

In fact before he became President
... before he was a 'boring again Christian'
... did George "baby Doc" Bush not have a wee cocaine habit too??

14

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:35:51

As for my point of view being incoherent or "paranoid" ...

Know ...

Don't think so pal...!

But when the Yankee Berlin Wall gets trashed ... like the German one
... I am sure American tax-payers will ask why so much US government money was wasted ...!!

Especially at a time when tax-dollars could be better spent on repairing US schools and investing in the 'schemes' ... or Housing Projects as our American cousins call them.

15

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 09:36:41

#12

Beware my wrath!

You are now under my alcoholic/Irish/ American
/Catholic/ Jewish/Church of England/Women's Institute/ Mother's Union/ Boy Scouts of America(delete as applicable) control.

With my global mind control device hidden under the nevada desert I will compell you to obey my will. You are condemned to a life of drinking coca cola and eating mars bars, while watching re-runs of the sopranos on UK Gold and buying crap on the shopping channel, as part of my plan to support the American military-industrial complex.

The world is ours! Our, I tell you!!(Cue mad triumphant laghter, roll credits, etc)

16

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 09:39:27

# 14

Errrrrr, Yankee Berlin Wall???!!!

Beep beep wibble, where are my pills, I am getting the red mist... the lizards are coming for me!!

All the elephants have got beards. Oh Dear!!


AAAAAARGHH!!!!!!

17

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 09:44:42

#13

I am not a fan of Bush or the American policy in S America.

However none of your arguments justify an idiot from a foreign country having a gap year in the middle of an armed conflict in a foreign countrry.

The issue is this womans behaviour, not US foreign policy.

Why don't you apply your mind to it, instead of frothing at the mouth like some demented loon?

18

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:48:21

#15 and 16

Thanks Puzzler
... I am glad you at least have a wee sense of humour ... you and I might actually get oan wae each other mate.

Now since we are really gonnae be "friends" 'n'at

If ye dinnae mind pal ... ahhll miss oot oan aw the Septic Tank telly stuff ...
I think Tony Soprano should be keel-hauled actually mate ...
and his sexy shrink ... Lorraine Bracco ...

Well gie yon Italiana a 'beso'

19

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:53:28

#17
what a lovely image ...
"a demented loon ... frothing at the mooth"

Let's encourage the Septic Tanks

... to stop intervening in the internal affairs of their Latino neighbours like Colombia

LETS ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT

Let's encourage Latin American democracy and participation in it.

Let's stop giving terrorists like Luis Posada Carilles such an easy ride

20

Maria Thomson la guapa,

Gringo go home 13/09/2007 09:55:44

As regards:

global mind control device hidden under the nevada desert I will compell you to obey my will. You are condemned to a life of drinking coca cola and eating mars bars ...

Hey mate the X-Files was the 1990's ...
move on its 2007

21

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 10:02:29

#19

I refer the learned lady to my remarks regarding the daft Dutch lassie in posting #17.

Dodgy foreign policy does not justify becoming a soldier in someone elses war. Why Colombia? Why not any of a dozen other conflicts?

This is war. not a game.

Tony Soprano is a deeply caring family man and a devoted husband and father.

If he has to feed the occasional person to the pigs or saw their head off with a rusty blade its only to show that he cares. A bit like this silly cow from holland in fact.

22

P.C Murdoch,

13/09/2007 10:04:06

America, Continent. U.S.A. a nation with in the continent.
Please learn the difference, particulary you Maria Thomson at the back, as you appear to this forum's champion for the Latin Americans.

Millions of people in the Americas are offended when Bush,Rice et al preach about "American" values, "American" troops and etc.

23

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 10:16:50

#20

But that's exactly what we want you to think! You have been lulled into a sense of false security. The lizards do their work well!!

Why else are you sitting there with your underpants on your head?

Answer me that if you can.

24

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 10:37:41

#22 and 23

Ask yourselves the simple question ...
Why is Bush's government so keen to prop up President Alvaro Uribe in Colombia??

Don't you think that when this house of cards collapses our embarressing American cousins will regret this rather misguided Foreign Policy objective ...??

25

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 10:43:08

Having just re-read the above article the significant bit is:

The FARC have long recruited women, who make up about a third of the 12,000-strong army.

Now why would so many women bear arms against Uribe and his C.I.A. 'advisers'

UNLIKE THE ISLAMISTS OF THE TALEBAN ...

Women are actually allowed to participate in the struggle for liberation ...

... wow ...!!!

Would you guys also have stopped women joining the ANC or SWAPO during the years of Apartheid in S.A. ???

Many of the armed fighter of the People's Liberation Army of Namibia were also women

26

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 10:46:56

The fact remains that America's so-called:
... War on Drugs (i.e. arming and aiding Uribe' govt) ... has gone "tits-up"

The Americans know they are fighting a determined opponent

... and will be on a hiding to nothing.

Meanwhile Corporate Execs and Company Directors can't get enough 'Charlie' up their greedy nostrils

27

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 10:51:55

As for :

He was wounded in the firefight and carried off by bodyguards, while women in the unit, who were bathing at the time, had to flee into the jungle in their underwear.

I bet the C.I.A. really enjoyed masturbating themselves to sleep that night huh?

Enough "wet-dreams" to fill a lot of solo-sex

... with PAM AND HER FIVE SISTERS

...In fact they probably shot loadsa video footage of the underwear clad Latinas making a hasty retreat for future masturbatory fantasies ... huh??

28

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 10:54:08

Tragic thing is though ...

When Latin America finally persuades its racist northern neighbour to butt out ...


WELL ...!
I leave you to draw yer ane conclusions ehh?

29

Jock MacSprog,

13/09/2007 10:57:31

Maria Thomson la guapa = Middle Class British Wanna Be Latin American Revolutionary. Took a few Spanish classes at school. Went to a Chiapas lecture at the Stockbridge Arts Centre one night and now sits about cashing Daddys cheques, posting on any topic on the Scotsman and dreaming of her gap year trip to Costa Rica (as close as she dare get to the real Central America) As for those nice chaps at FART:
The FARC-EP has employed vehicle bombings, gas cylinder bombs, killings, landmines, kidnapping, extortion, hijacking, as well as guerrilla and conventional military action against Colombian political, military, and economic targets, to attack those it considers a threat to its movement. It has not been uncommon for civilians to die or suffer forced displacement, directly or indirectly, due to many of these actions. The FARC-EPs April 16 and April 18, 2005 gas cylinder attacks on the town of ToribiĂł, Cauca led to the displacement of more than two thousand indigenous inhabitants and the destruction of two dozen civilian houses. A February 2005 report from the United Nations' High Commissioner for Human Rights mentioned that, during 2004, "FARC-EP continued to commit grave breaches [of human rights] such as murders of protected persons, torture and hostage-taking, which affected many civilians, including women, returnees, boys and girls, and ethnic groups."[8]

The FARC's tactic of employing a type improvised mortars made from gas canisters (or cylinders) as explosives, a weapon it often uses when launching attacks at towns and sites in them that they consider as military objectives (such as police stations), has a high degree of inaccuracy. Resulting targeting difficulties have caused these weapons to often level civilian houses and/or harm civilians, such as the case in Toribío on April 24, 2005, and the earlier 2002 attack on a church in Bojayá which killed 119 civilians.

Human Rights Watch considers that "the FARC-EPs continued use o

30

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 11:05:18

#25 Oh, right!

So this woman was just taking advantage of the equal opportunity policies of FARC, in order to exercise her right to join a guerrilla campaign and shoot people?

How progressive! How very heartwarming to see that privileged women from fat little European countries can get the opportunity to kill. These are only S American peasants and lackies of the Americans of course, so no need to worry.

I am sure she was fully qualified to decide which civilans were collaborators worthy of death, and which captured soldiers deserved a bullet in the back of the head.

Who knows, maybe she also exercised her right to torture information out of these fascist scum tools of US imperialism? I am sure she would be in an excellent position to decide who has the right to live, and who deserves to die, while reading overheated books about the struggle on her packpackers flight from Holland to join la revolucion.

You continue going on about the Americans and their policies. This is not the point of the article.

The point is that this woman went abroad specifically to take part in a war that had absolutely nothing to do with her. That is the sole, simple point here. Do you thinks her behaviour is appropriate, or not? Do you think she had any right to participate in this war, or not? Do you think she deserves to be sent to jail, or not? Do you think that she is essentially a mercenary and deserves to be treated accordingly, or not?

You are just not going to engage with it are you?

31

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 11:05:31

#29

OK Mate ...
Naebody likes civilian atrocities ...

But if the USA ... stopped interfering in the internal affairs of another neighbouring country ... and spent their tax-dollars on educating their own citizens or repairing their own infrastructure ...!

People would not feel compelled to bear arms against the racist Gringo oppressors

32

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 11:09:13

#30

During the struggle of the peoples of South Africa and Namibia against Apartheid ... would you have stopped people doing solidarity then??

America's intervention in its "own backyard" ...

Now as then ...

Is not a 'just cause'

People don't like their racist Gringo neighbour playing Arnold Schwartznegger.

The Yanks will lose this won too ...!!!

33

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 11:11:37

Fact is that no matter how many tax-dollars the Bush govt spend aiding / arming the Colombian regime ...

They are still "oan tae plums"

34

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 11:12:58

#32

I don't recall anyone from Holland going down to SA and necklacing people during the anti-aprtheid campiagn, or taking poart in bombings shootings and lynchings.

35

Jock MacSprog,

13/09/2007 11:13:07

Mary Thomson the wannabe,

explain agin who people are "compelled to bear arms against" ...... their own people ? Not just the Gringos. Guess they are compelled to be the largest drug dealers in the world also eh ? Time to cash another one of Daddys cheques and go over for a little closer visit than a Marriott Hotel in Costa Rica I guess Mary.

36

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 11:13:40

... and greedy Corporate Execs

... will still continue to notch up their arrogant smiles

... with the assistance of a wee snort or three of Colombian Ajax ... yes??

37

Jock MacSprog,

13/09/2007 11:15:54

I think Mary Thomson might be a CIA agent. What better way to discredit the left than her series of ranting idiotic posts over the past few days on all manner of topics. Hows the weather in Langley today Mary ?

38

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 11:20:51

#33

Any chance you could drop the cod "guid Scots tongue" shtick?

Also any chance you could write coherent sentences and address some of the questions put to you - eg about this woman and her actions, rather than just spouting on about America and its inevitable defeat.

Also, I seem to remember a lot about that inevitable defeat from leaders of the Warsaw pact just before their system collpased and they all re-emerged as born again capitalists and, unfortunately, in the case of the former Yugoslavia, born again fascists.

Its amazing how that kind of attitude lends itself to extreme views that appear totally at odds, yet in fact reflect the same thunderous self righteous certainty.

39

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 11:24:58

#37
Jock ... touche babes ...!!
#38
Whits wrang dae youse Septics no unnerstaun us Scots huh??

hoh hoh hoh ...!!

40

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 11:26:10

Ohh and its lovely weather in Langley today Jock ...
hahaha ...!!

41

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Puzzler,

Edinburgh 13/09/2007 11:52:19

#41 You are definitely losing the plot.

I am not sure why you keep going on about masturbation or Americans. You seem pre-occupied with both.

Your credibility on this thread is gone.

Bye.

43

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Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 13:11:43

#34

Puzzled and confused wan ...

Dae ye know think ye urr a wee bit lost 'n'at mate???
Your logical brain is obviously "awol" buddy ...!!

You said:

I don't recall anyone from Holland going down to SA and necklacing people during the anti-aprtheid campiagn, or taking poart in bombings shootings and lynchings.

South Africa was colonised by the brits and Dutch ...
So naturally Dutch folk also participated in solidarity work during that period of the 1980's

Don't reduce the struggle against Apartheid to a couple of civilian atrocities mate ...!!

Know what I mean buddy??

45

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 13:14:03

Now as regards me losing the plot ...

Naw ...

Don't think so boys (and Langley farm-boys) ...

Ahh-ehh ...
I have been pretty consistant actually

46

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 13:32:47

Puzzler I just read yer posts again ...
Brilliant mate.

Well done to you.

I particularly loved post #11:

Better put your cooking foil helmet on. Yoiu have exposed our plans and I am sending kller radio waves your way starting now!

Classic mate ...
I almost fell aff the chair laughing when I re-read it.

Great ...!!!

47

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 13:51:26

#17

..the issue is the Dutch lass ...

You said ...

It says:

The FARC pride themselves on equality of life in the movement and an adherence to Communist ideology. Yet it appears there are the privileged and the unprivileged, and "Eillen" sees herself in the latter category. "What will it be like when we take power? The women of the commanders will have Ferraris, breast implants and eat caviare. At least that is how it seems," she wrote.

Sounds like the embedded journalists of the Hootsmon Press Corp ...
Well they did not think to actually check out

... what the Septic Tank comandante

... was actually getting at during the press briefing

huh??

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Tim C,

Southern England 13/09/2007 14:42:48

no 29, Jock MacSprog; methinks Maria Thomson writes like a bloke, and probably is more feo than guapo.

51

Jock MacSprog,

13/09/2007 15:02:02

48 C'mon Mary Thomson, do your homework. "The Farm" isnt in Langley, its at Camp Peary, Virginia.

52

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 15:18:59

#50
Timbo ...
and #51
Jock de la Spock
dream oan lads
Camp Zonjertje van der Veld tae you jokey Jocky

53

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 15:26:03

Damn ...
How dae ye get yon silver paper wrapped around yer heid??

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Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 15:34:34

Or we could have the Bryan Ferry + Roxy Music one:

"What's yer name ?? ... Virginia Plain ...!!"

56

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 15:37:14

Humour aside lads

... our Norte Americano cousins are awfy quiet aboot this one huh??

Whhhaaahh-zuppp ...

US Army Press Corp puti-cat got yer tongue??

57

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 15:53:53

#30
As regards merceneries ...
The city of Embra ... and indeed Glasgow ... indeed much of Scotland has had its fair share of "soldiers of fortune" ... 'hired guns' and hired assasins ...

Is your objection that this particular one was:
1. Middle-clas;

2. Dutch;

3. A girl

or

4. All three of the above.

Would you feel better if it was oor wee Senga fae Easterhoose or Govan in said 'somebody else's war'

Are you just jealous that a Dutch lass of bourgeois extraction

... thought of it rather than

... some wee torag lassie fae the schemes of Edinburgh or Glasgow ???

58

Orwhmale,

USA 13/09/2007 17:00:52

Maria - take a chill woman!
Puzzler - entertaining responses.
Maria - "Gringo go home" - deal all English speaking males will leave but you must take all Spanish speaking with you back - fair exchange!
Real entertainment thanks from a Yank

59

Proud Scot101,

Glasgow 13/09/2007 17:10:26

Just typical of the left leaning tree hugging sandalistas.

FARC are up their with the Islamists in the league table of evil terrorists. FARC are "famous" for implementing the "neck bomb" technique. The idea is to grab the village matriarch and lock the bomb around her neck. The bomb can be detonated on the whim of the killers. Nice people indeed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7512370.stm

60

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 17:14:48

0#35

ohh hey

... do they really have a Marriot Hotel in Costa Rica??

(dialling her dad's mobile number)

"Aw hiya daddy
... can I borrow yer Platinum AMEX
... yes dad

... Eileen has just offered to teach me Dutch ...!!"

61

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 17:18:29

#58
don't be shy mate ... join in ...!!

62

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 17:34:52

(on phone to Amsterdam)
"Aw hi ... I am planning a wee trip to Costa Rica
... yea my daddy is paying
... can anyone there give me Dutch lessons
... well its just I want to goo be Tony Soprano's daughter in Colombia ...!!!"

63

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 17:40:09

(still on phone to Amsterdam)
"Aw yea ...
and can anyone find me a super-intelligent gerbil to film a porn movie for the Virginians?

... ahh that's great ...

...ohh and loadsa clean sheets too please ...

well they get awfy excited in Camp Peary Virginia ... at the thought of half-naked Colombianas in the river
... fantastic ...

... well lads I must remember to book my holidays with the Dutch Tourist Board every year ... see ya now ...!"

64

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 17:49:16

Ok lads
... I found a super-intelligent gerbil
... got a good supply of clean bed linen ...

... now where can I get a copy of Laurel and Hardy's:
"Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia."

Any clues??

65

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 17:51:58

Someone told me a Virginian farm-boy upset the chambermaid at the Marriot in Costa Rica.

She asked: "Hey you want another sheet senor??"

to which he replied ...
"No thanks senorita ... I just had one ...!!"

66

Stevo Darkly,

USA 13/09/2007 18:40:29

For the love of heaven -- someone please run and tell the floor nurse that Maria's straps have come loose again.

67

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 19:06:52

#66

ohh Stevo Darkly
... sweetie ... sugar-pie honey bunch
... carino ... darleenk ...
I did not know you cared hun??

68

57Nomad,

california 13/09/2007 21:34:16

#50 Tim C

"no 29, Jock MacSprog; methinks Maria Thomson writes like a bloke, and probably is more feo than guapo."

I gotta agree with you on this one Timster. A few days ago I referred to her as MT la Fea. But I think you are closer to the mark. This may well be a man, or, better put a male, and I doubt that he is a Latino.

M. T. la Guapa! You call yourself la Guapa but you offer no proof of Guapacity. You accuse the CIA of gross manipulation of the media to serve its own purposes. You have not been certified by the Latin American Guapa Certification Junta. You cannot legally refer to yourself as "Guapa," until you have been so certified by the LAGCJ. If you persist, and ever try to enter a Latin American country you can expect to do some explaining at the air port. Why" For doing what you accuse other of. Here you are, blatantly using the international forum on the Scotsman to imply that you are a Hot Number. We're not even convinced you're a woman, let alone a hottie that can refer to herself as la Guapa. Not only that but on the same thread she refers to Americans as racists and gringos. Who's the racist here, Jasper?

Then her comments about the wall. She compares the border wall on the Mexican border to the Berlin wall. Why she left out Hadrian's wall, and the Great Wall of China, I don't know. I don't know that anybody does, or cares. She just omitted one little tiny fact. One itsy bitsy piece of information that throws a monkey wrench into the gearbox of La Guapa's analogy.

You see, Maria, or Mario, whatever, the Berlin wall was built to keep the people in East Germany from escaping to the West. Ask yourself this question? Are we trying to keep Americans from escaping into Mexico? Well, dumbass? Are we? If the answer is no then you may consider your poorly constructed sophistry to be null and void.

This raises yet another interesting question. La Guapa says that America

69

Maria Thomson la guapa,

13/09/2007 22:03:23

Ohh desolation ...

Mysticism in a Land of Mystics ...

I don't know Nomad ...

Would it not be nice to stop putting bullets in Hugo Chavez's gun??

Just think democracy in Latino countries ...

Wow

All I was trying to say was that if Latin America was allowed to develop their would not be such a strong pull northwards for Latinos ... you would not have to whinge about aliens of Latino extraction taking all your jobs ... women ... houses ... doctors


I think that if the infrastructure of Mexico etc etc etc was given time to develop ... then Latinos would not be drawn north to a "better life"

Anyway

... I don't know the time in California now
... well its just gone 23:00hrs
... so I guess its 15:00hrs there
... but I am going to my bed soon old chap ... hasta manana buddy ...

adios carino

70

Conan,

Here 14/09/2007 00:01:57

Settle down, you two nitwits.

71

Bookaholic,

Spokane, WA, USA 14/09/2007 21:18:05

Maria Thompson la guapa--Fearing to deviate from the path of rectitude, I hesitate to articulate that you are exuberated by your own verbosity!

Beyond that, you are a just plain STUPID and mouthy LOON! Get a clue!

72

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 15/09/2007 00:38:54

Hadrian's wall was built to keep english marauders out of Rome's scottish enclave where all their key installations were based and governed from a capital at Crammond now a suburb of modern Edinburgh. Silver mines, lead mines, superior celtic metallurgy to continental Europe, their leading hospital and medical centre. All in Scotland. Their are few good natural harbours on the east coast of Britain till you reach the Forth with its then fisheries and oyster beds. Subsequently there was Antonine's wall. For sensible people build walls to ENCLOSE their valued property.


 

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