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Published Date: 22 May 2009
UNEMPLOYED people in some of Scotland's poorest areas could be given Church money to help them set up their own businesses as a way out of poverty.
The Church of Scotland's General Assembly was today expected to give the go-ahead for an examination of "micro credit" – offering start-up loans to individuals and groups in a bid to provide employment and boost struggling communities.

A report by the Kirk's church and society council today said it would mean the church making available a "substantial" sum to lend to people who would not qualify for loans from banks. The Rev Ian Galloway, convener of the church and society council, said: "The Church of Scotland, like other organisations, has reserves. It may be it could use some of these to invest in people in this way."

But he said there was more work to be done on how the scheme would work.

Micro credit has been pioneered in Bangladesh and among asylum seekers in New York. The biggest obstacle in this country could be the benefit system since individuals receiving cash help to start their own business would immediately lose welfare payments.

But Mr Galloway said there had also been pilot schemes in England which had included special benefit concessions.

He said: "Micro credit can be one way to help people out of poverty if there is a benefit 'holiday' so that if someone wanted to be a hairdresser, or whatever, they could continue to get benefits for a period while they establish themselves.

"And in the longer term there would be a huge saving in benefits because people would be moving into self-employment."

The report to the assembly said micro credit and similar schemes were a way of helping communities take more control of their own economic destiny.

Some Kirk congregations had already been involved in setting up credit unions. And the report suggested with the threat of post office closures, churches could house sub-post offices in their halls.

The assembly was also being asked today to back moves to set up a broad-based commission to look at ethics and economics.

Mr Galloway said people had been shocked by the collapse of the banks. He said: "Trust has to be restored, not necessarily by getting back to the way things were, but by looking how economics can be made to work for the good of all."

Should the Church of Scotland offer loans to the needy?

Alexander Alexander, 81, retired, Calder Gardens: "I don't think the Church should be doing that at all. They'd be better helping the homeless."

Sandra Deans, 59, housewife, Oxgangs: "It should be left to the government and banks."

Gordon Allan, 40, estate agent, Dalkeith Road: "If they can help people out, it's no problem."




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  • Last Updated: 22 May 2009 9:11 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Church of Scotland
 
1

Sedov,

22/05/2009 09:51:13
This sounds like a great idea but as usual from the church a bit thoughtless. The organisations which are best at lending to socially excluded and the poorest in our society are local credit unions which are owned and run by the members themselves. To become a member in most cases you only need to start off with one pound in savings.
Many credit unions including Capital from Edinburgh have received money from the government (The Growth fund) to lend out in a similar way as the churches want to excluded and they have the experience, skills and democratic accountability to do this. The members will also have access to a bank account as many less well off people are excluded to this basic need.
If the churches really want to help, they would be far better giving the money to the credit unions to administer a loan scheme on their behalf.
Credit union are in the business of helping the less well off and will be lending their money long after this well meaning but poorly thought out scheme by the churches has gone
2

Boy Wonder,

22/05/2009 12:02:44
Halleujah! I have seen the light and am now signing up to the Christian superstition like I did when I was a toddler who believed in Fairies and Santa Claus.

Now ... about that loan, meenister ...
3

Utar Refson,

22/05/2009 12:08:19
#2, whereas now you believe in the fairy tale that everything exploded into being several billion years ago and life just decided to start and get progressively more complex despite modern science being unable to replicate act?

Comedy gold.
4

GONNYNODEATHAT,

Glasgow 22/05/2009 12:10:53
They would be better commenting on REAL ISSUES that effecting peoples lives every day. They are silent on too many Real Issues.
5

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 22/05/2009 12:20:42
Praise the Lord,are they open on a Sat,i will be first in the queue.
6

Observer,,

Glasgow 22/05/2009 12:34:13
Micro credit has indeed proved very effective in Blangladesh. But I agree with 1 - the credit union movement is already equipped to administer this. If the Kirk has reserves it wants to use, it should be talking to them. Good luck to them, nice to see the Kirk putting it's money where it's mouth is. I wonder if it's knee-jerk critics would do the same.
7

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22/05/2009 12:39:56
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8

Tartan Viking,

22/05/2009 12:50:56
Hope they don't 'alter' the interest rate too much :o)
9

Slobberchops the Aesthete,

22/05/2009 13:12:27
#7 - excellent post!
10

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 22/05/2009 13:18:53
No they should not give out loans. What does the Church know about business? Good grief what are we coming to.

They hardly know about people! Time they sorted themselves out.
11

elayne,

22/05/2009 13:50:58
it sounds quite good in principle,bu tthere has to be a catch somewhere surely
12

L,

Edinburgh 22/05/2009 14:40:33
#3 - nor has modern science managed to replicate the 'big beardy man in the sky with a magic wand creating giraffes and penguins and peas out of thin air' yet.
13

I love to eat Sellotape,

22/05/2009 14:50:48
It's quite a feat to create both giraffes and peas.

Isn't it.
14

danbob,

22/05/2009 17:42:06
12# Have you science geeks worked out where the earth water has come from yet. Or have you given it up as a bad job.

Now for the story. The church should not indulge in this. It will cause problems if people or businesses default.
15

Pilrig,

Livingston 22/05/2009 23:05:26
3 - ID card marked !
16

hoblar,

22/05/2009 23:26:10
This is the very essence of how any church and community can use their funds locally, they need to get support from the Scottish Government rather than use the media to advertise this idea, one that the Scottish church has historically, when either catholic or protestant, promoted before the rest of Europe as far as investing in local communities is concerned.

We had our 'commoners' able to read and write for hundreds of years before the rest of Europe thought of it and it was parish based whether catholic or protestant as I said..

 

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