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Why our elderly deserve so much better than this



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Published Date: 02 April 2008
Evening News goes undercover at Ashley Court Nursing Home to lift the lid on a litany of failings in hygiene and staffing.
I SPENT a week working five gruelling 13-hour shifts as a care assistant at Ashley Court Nursing Home in Morningside.

The home is regarded within the industry as one of the region's better care homes and specialises in providing extra care for people with dementia.

And certainly my investigation did not uncover any abuse of elderly residents or failings which might put them in immediate danger.

Charlotte's care home diary
'They would sit, often alone. They were simply dolls on a conveyor belt'

But I did witness a series of shortcomings at the home in Craighouse Terrace which paint a stark picture of life in a nursing home and the standard of care which any one of us might expect to experience. And the results have prompted a strong reaction, being described as "most disturbing" by Margo MacDonald MSP, and condemned by the charity Age Concern Scotland as a "threat to the health and wellbeing of residents and staff which cannot be excused".

The investigation found a series of apparent failings at Ashley Court relating to staffing, hygiene and recruitment.

These include:

• As few as two staff caring for 22 residents on one floor overnight.

• I was left alone with apparent responsibility for 22 residents on my second shift while other carers took a ten-minute a break.

• Apparent failure to carry out a criminal record check.

• No medical gloves seemed to be available for changing and washing residents for almost two entire shifts.

• Hygiene procedures ignored when dealing with resident with MRSA.

• Residents complaining of boredom and carers of under-staffing.

The Randolph Hill Group, which owns Ashley Court, denied there were any shortcomings in the care it provided while I worked there last month.

The company specifically denied I was left in charge of 22 residents, despite the fact I was left alone on a floor with no-one else on duty while my co-workers took a ten-minute break.

Although I was not given gloves and watched other carers hunting unsuccessfully for supplies, Randolph Hill also denied there was any shortage of gloves. A spokesman for the group added: "Gloves and aprons are always available and worn by the staff as part of our infection control policy, but good hand washing is also encouraged.

"Staffing never falls below the required levels as laid down by the Scottish Care Commission. Agency staff are used on occasions which is fairly common in this industry. The needs of all the clients are assessed as per NHS Lothian guidelines and details logged in personal care plans.

This covers the use of incontinence pads, the type of food and liquid provided and moving and handling procedures.

"Ashley Court employs two activity co-ordinators who organise bus outings twice a week and a wide range of home entertainments, including concerts, church services and visits by local schoolchildren."

A spokeswoman for Age Concern Scotland said the conditions I observed "cannot be excused".

She said: "While many care homes offer a very good standard of care for older people there continue to be too many which fail older people and which need to be brought to the attention of the regulatory bodies.

"This home clearly poses a threat to the health and wellbeing of residents and staff which cannot be excused.

"Also the residents' emotional and psychological wellbeing is at risk because of the way their care is being provided."

Age Concern Scotland said Ashley Court should "urgently seek help with improving standards" and called on the regulatory bodies to ensure that happened.

Ms MacDonald, the independent Lothians MSP, said: "Having found your report most disturbing I intend to ask the Scottish Commission for the Regulation of Care to investigate and comment."

I have compiled a dossier on my findings which will be passed to the Care Commission.

Lawrie Davidson, regional manager for the Care Commission, said: "The Care Commission welcomes issues or concerns being raised regarding care services. Complaints are a crucial way for us to drive up standards of care. They allow us to identify problems and ensure that care providers can put solutions in place to improve standards of care for everyone in Edinburgh and the Lothians. The issues raised by the Evening News – in particular the recruitment and staffing matters – may appear, at this early stage, to suggest failures in acceptable care standards."

He said there would be a "full and thorough investigation".

Ashley Court has been the subject of controversy in the past, although recent inspections show no serious concerns.

A fatal accident inquiry was ordered following the death of 92-year-old Isabella McGregor, who died just hours after being moved from the home after social workers raised concerns about her body being covered in bed sores, in 2004.

The inquiry found "no basis for criticising the general quality of care provided to Miss McGregor", although Sheriff Principal Edward Bowen QC condemned "a complete lack of understanding and insight" into the care of an elderly patient with bed sores at the home.

Earlier this year, Diane Whitton, 42, a nurse who worked at the home, was struck off after being found guilty of deliberately hitting a blind and disabled resident.


The full article contains 902 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 02 April 2008 12:02 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Care for the Elderly
 
1

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 12:04:14
".. my investigation did not uncover any abuse of elderly residents or failings which might put them in immediate danger."

What a shame - all that effort hen and you end up with a non-story.


2

Daft Old Git,

02/04/2008 12:13:09
Shock... Horror! eh not quite probably find similar minor horror stories in any private hospital or care home.
Staff taking a 10 minute break! I presume they were all miles away at the pub getting drunk at this time
3

Jennifer R.,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 12:14:53
Left in charge of a floor of 22 residents whilst they slept. I'm guessing that because the other staff were only taking 10 minutes break then they were probably only a floor away or outside the door having a fag rather than non-contactable, hardly negligence!

This is a pointless non-story. Stop scare-mongering.
4

Sarcasm,

02/04/2008 12:27:15
"As few as two staff caring for 22 residents on one floor overnight"

So about the same as an NHS ward.

"I was left alone with apparent responsibility for 22 residents..."

We all can't have the cosseted life of an EEN reporter.
5

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 02/04/2008 12:28:21
#3 no its not scaremongering!!

Sad that owners deny all without further comment. They are never wrong are they?

After having parents go through the so called system of care my eyes were opened! You were very much in the hands of staff! Some cared some didn't!!

It is scary and if nothing is done and people don't speak up change will not happen. I want change before I need the care!

I wouldn't have said that before but I do now.
6

Paranoid John from Midlothian,

02/04/2008 12:30:07
Sounds like a non story to me.
7

Daft Old Git,

02/04/2008 12:31:55
#5
Hope you can afford a 1 to 1 ratio of staff watching you sleep then. How dare they take a break
8

Hmm ...,

02/04/2008 12:35:27
... five 13 hour shifts in a week? Isn't a 63 hour week above the EU maximum permitted?

And this ten minute break on her second shift - presumably she was not masquerading as a qualified care assistant, so should she have been left alone at all? Even overnight when the residents were all asleep - what about an alzheimers patient going walkabout? What about anyone having a heart attack or stroke - any kind of emergency - does she go for help or try to "manage" the victim?

From the posts above, am I alone in caring about these most vulnerable people (they are in a nursing home, so not able to look after themselves at all)?

OK, so the reporter would be unhappy having spent a 65 hour week (plus time spent writing up her diary) with nothing to report but Mrs MacDonald and Age concern Scotland share my concerns about what she DID find. Definitely a story, to my mind. Do the above posters work as care assistants, by any chance? And if they do, how do they have time to post here during a "gruelling 13-hour shift"?
9

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 02/04/2008 12:42:15
#7 - you are your name!! No wonder the country in such a bad state!

#8 - no you are not alone in caring. I do as I said in 5

Senseless people in here don't help.
10

Chris Reid,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 12:44:21
What a pathetic piece of journalism. Wasted two weeks undercover and got nothing, why dont you report some good news or even some factual news for a change!
11

Sarcasm,

02/04/2008 12:48:02
Does anyone really think that this discovered anything new.

Thought not.
12

Lynnep,

02/04/2008 13:10:18
What a load of rubbish, this woman should be ashamed of herself. The carers, staff and management in this home work there ass off to make sure the residence are taken care of and given an amazing quality of life.
13

Sarcasm,

02/04/2008 13:18:00
12. An amazing quality of life.

We've had colour TV's in this country for a fair while now.

I think you should declare your interests or stop consuming whatever you're on.
14

Lynnep,

02/04/2008 13:19:12
12 Have you ever worked in a nursing home?????
15

Lynnep,

02/04/2008 13:20:57
Sorry 13 have you ever worked in a nursing home????
16

archifoetus,

02/04/2008 13:26:51
nice photo though
17

Sarcasm,

02/04/2008 13:35:27
14,15

No I heard that the whole setup gets to you eventually and you end up talking to yourself.

However I'm thinking of taking early retirement in order to sample this amazing life as soon as.

Can you put my name down before you start the next shift.

How big is the TV.
18

blackley,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 13:35:48
"An amazing quality of life" eh? One of our posters is living in cloud cuckoo land!
It's all about staff. Some care. Some dinny and would rather sit yakking or smoking outside while poor old folk are crying out for assistance.
19

Lynnep,

02/04/2008 13:44:51
# 17 & 18 Have either one of you stepped foot in a nursing home??

Try discussing a subject you actually no something about. I don't work in a nursing home myself but I no plenty of people who do and they certainly care about there residence and how they are cared for. This article does not give an accurate portrayal of nursing homes and how hard carers actually work.
20

K.R,

02/04/2008 13:54:23
I do work in social care, But I would never work in a care home, the staff to service user ratio is appaling, personal care is very much "conveyor belt style" you only have a few minutes to assist each service user. you have no time to get to know the service users. you are supposed to work in a person centred manner, however how can you promote choice and independence with you choice and independenc e is limited because thier is not enough staffing or money to help to do so. how can you promote dignaty whe a service user is left to sit in excrement beacause the fe staff members on shift are already assising other service users in the same situation. staff in care homes are low paid and have limted access to training.
21

Sarcasm,

02/04/2008 13:55:04
19.
Yes, and I think it was one that provided an amazing quality of life.

It had a freeview box.
22

Applecrumble,

Balerno 02/04/2008 14:02:23
My mum has worked in more nursing homes than any of you can name and I often came along and helped her. Being a child at that time the elderly people took to me because most of their families never bothered to bring their own grandchildren to visit.
In some of the nursing homes the staff were all wonderful - considering they got paid a pittance. But in the higher paid nursing homes the staff were much less caring.
The issue of gloves and aprons is true in many nursing homes. My mother was frequently laughed at and ridiculed when she asked for gloves and aprons when dealing with patients.

Think about your own parents and the are you want for them and think about the kind of care you want for yourselves when the time comes.
23

gennaio,

penicuik 02/04/2008 14:05:27
Charlotte Bailley has only succeeded in telling everyone how it is in the vast majority of carehomes. Low income from the social work department to fund residents places equals a lower than ideal staff: resident ratio and insufficient supplies of gloves, wipes, aprons. Care homes are usually not charities; they need to make their owners some profit. Ashley Court is not a bad home, just an average home.
24

pooh bear,

02/04/2008 14:06:30
doesn't this so-called reporter not think that if the residents of this home was at risk at this time, that the care commission would have been involved long ago? or that the families would have done something if they felt they had to? this person should be ashamed as she has mislead the residents into trusting her when she was a fake! but thats because she must be rubbish at her job as she hasnt been given any REAL stories to cover!
25

silverdaddy,

02/04/2008 14:10:18
Are people missing the point here? This is not simply a criticism of the staff at the home, but an article highlighting the problems faced by care homes in general. If this is "one of the region's better care homes", what are care homes like in other, less well-off areas?

Good for Charlotte Bailey - I'd hate my grandparents to be treated like this and I think we need to know what's going on so that standards are questioned and hopefully raised!
26

TTS,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 14:22:15
The first section of respondants have not got a clue what they are talking about. These elderly people are paying for proper standards of care - something that this operation routinely fail to deliver.

There is an issue of collective responsibility here. This management are profit seekers, its amazing how badly they are prepared to treat their "customers" to get an extra few quid in their bulging pockets.

They are also trying to get permission to extend the home for a further 9 bedrooms! What a joke considering they obviously cannot cope with the amount they have just now.

Perhaps it would be more appropriate to close some bedrooms and employ more staff to offer a decent standard of care.
27

TTS,

02/04/2008 14:24:11
By the way - very well done to the reporter.

There is no smoke without fire and she has gone a long way to uncover the true lack of care at this costly home.
28

Des Gruntled,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 14:27:19
There is no "shocking insight here" just a standard, most likely underfunded care home trying to do their best.

Infact, is this not the same care home that the evening news has previous articles, in which a nearby resident is trying to prevent it's expansion. Surely an expansion would help matters? They're damned whatever they do it appears to me. Shame on the evening news!
29

pooh bear,

02/04/2008 14:40:52
can i just state that if people have an issue re the number of staff in this care home' or in fact most other care homes, they should take this up with the care commission as the staff ratio is 1-5.

30

Miss S,

02/04/2008 14:43:18
Has anyone taken the time to read this homes inspection reports. You'll find them at www.carecommission.com
This home was last inspected by the care commission in January and the report is very good.

Care Homes are businesses yes but thats the reality of the world we live in and it is impossible for any business to give a perfect service all of the time.

Maybe the EEN should stick to stories about parking and leave the care homes to their own business. They have enough inspections and regulators without some young lassie coming in for a week and thinking she knows it all.
Relatives feel guilty enough having to put their family members in care homes without the EEN adding to their worries.
Elderly people moving into care homes will be anxious enough about moving into a home without this guff being on the front page of their daily newspaper.
31

TTS,

02/04/2008 14:49:33
I feel very sad for the old folks at this home.
32

pooh bear,

02/04/2008 14:57:21
people should realise that not all you read in papers are true! havent we learned that by now!

i understand that homes need to be inspected so do the newspapers now feel that the care commission are not doing this properly and that they need to do it for them?
33

Miss S,

02/04/2008 15:01:10
#32 - Exactly!

34

Lynnep,

02/04/2008 15:03:34
# 32 I totally agree.
35

Miss S,

02/04/2008 15:04:55
and Charlotte. Do you not think you may be adding to this homes recruitment problem by taking a job that a real carer might have gone for?? You've put this vacancy back at least 3 weeks in being filled.
Nice work!
36

K.R,

02/04/2008 15:20:18
#30 indeed the care commission do inspections both announced and unannounced. However when its announced management ENSURE that thier is adequate staffing and ENSURE that thier policys are up to date. but maybe they should turn up at 8am when service users are being forced to get up at a time that is convienent for staff so they can get all resident washed and at the table for 9am, then then meds at 9.15 then some may get to go on a mini bus for a few hours as a form of day care. the care commision doint see when you can't give good care because staff member have phoned in sick or are understaffed. it's easy to close a service users door to endure the care commision don't talk to them to get thier true opinion. The general face of social care has changed I have trained and therfor i get good pay to reflect this...but i would not work in a care home, the pay is crap, the work conditions is crap and i would not be able to privide the type of care that I am trained to do due to poor staff client ratios. it's not care home manager fualt either it's just the culture of care for the elderley
37

Miss S,

02/04/2008 15:36:34
#36 I dont know where you have worked or when? But it sounds like Care Homes 10 years ago and pretty dire. I have worked in many and still do. Most carers are now trained. And from my experience "Social Care" is not perfect either.
And by the way if a service users door is closed the Care Commission are perfectly capable of knocking on the door to be invited in.
38

pooh bear,

02/04/2008 15:51:13
#37 i agree

#36 what happens on unanounced then? do they have super powers to do all the work quickly without the care commission seeing?

#36 also are you now saying that all people who work in a nursing home with poor pay are crap at there job? that they are not proberly trained to get a fantastic job like yours?
i am offended as will be many other cares.
i do not have blinkers on i too have worked in care for many years with different job titles and have seen many things but the bottom line is this as i have stated earlier -
the ones that matter are now going to be like monkeys in a zoo due to various bodies coming in. is this really necessary when people have only taken the word of one person.
39

Miss S,

02/04/2008 15:56:07
#38 Well said!
40

K.R,

02/04/2008 16:16:52
n up not saying they are crap at thier job, not at all, just that due to poor staffing you they don't get opportunities to get good training, who many of your staff group are trained to svq level 3? it tend to be level 2 they are trained to, how many of the staff group have hnc in social care............and how many of the staff group have stuck around once they acheive them?
care homes for the elderley are more likely to take on unqualified care staff that an other area of social care. as for the closed doors the care commision are not thier to impose, and if they are told by a staff memeber than the service user is when actuall they are medicated to the high heavens as a form of restrain!, they wont go in and check duh!
41

subrosa,

02/04/2008 16:21:35
# 38

Well said. Most staff in care homes are only trained to the basic required standard. The reason given by owner/management is that if they train staff to a higher standard they up and leave for better pay. The basic qualification ought to be level 3 at least. Nursery nurses are far better qualified than care staff. Therefore we obviously respect our young children far more than our elderly.
42

K.R,

02/04/2008 16:24:56
by the By the way my job is fantastic, why? because i work in a environment where I am respected as a a proffesional, I work in an area that you HAVE to have an hnc and and svq and you are given time and funding to go and acheive it. I use my knowledge to ENSURE withing the framworks of the law. i dont recall saying that staff in care homes where crap at thier job?

indeed social care is not perfect either but thier has been ubtill recently much more funding available, i was not critising workers who privide care for the elderley, i was critising the crappy conditions many of them have to endure !
43

Miss S,

02/04/2008 16:27:14
Duh! Duh? Your sentence doesn't make sense. Neither does your basic English but I think I understand what you are trying to say.
In my experience the Care Commission will not ask if there are any residents who dont want to see them, they will try everyone and if told to go away by the resident, they will.
With regard to restraint by medication - I have worked in many care homes and have never administered medication in this way nor have I EVER seen this practice done. Which brings me back to asking when you worked in care homes since you seem to think that workhouse practices still go on?
44

pooh bear,

02/04/2008 16:29:29
#40 just to let u no i am fully qualified and iam working on my level 4. i am there because i want to b as are many others. and if u have level 2 correct me if iam wrong but this is what is required for a care assistant to have. as you work your way up you you then take on new challenging roles. if a person decides to leave good for them. isnt this what happens in any job?
plus dont get me started on the overdosed medication. i have never in my life encourted that. what homes have you worked in? this is not the 1940s.

45

K.R,

02/04/2008 16:41:31
forgive me spelling and grammer, i have been stuck on a computer all day doing assignments. so in care homes you only have to be qualified to level 2...really. well that just shows how much the care staff in your area are thought of as profesionals, in most other sectors its level 3. so are you telling me your residents often get quality one to one time? that thier needs are met a person centred manner? and that your setings are adequatley staffed? again I AM NOT HAVING AGO AT THE STAFF WHO WORK IN THESE PLACES, what is the staff to client ratio in your work place? how many beds are in the unit? how many care homes consist of just 3 or for adults in a home? elderley care get the smallest slice of the pie in terms of funding all im saying is that the elderley and the staff who care for them get a crap deal. i bet i earn more as a support worker in my area that most seniors do in working with the elderely....that just show how much you and your client group are valued by society.
46

K.R,

02/04/2008 16:47:44
#44 how many of your staff are qualified? how long have you been in social care, years by the sound of it, how long did you work in social care without any qualifications?
47

pooh bear,

02/04/2008 16:51:31
as a care assistant that is all that is required along with proper training such as moving and handling, first aid etc - you should no the requirements.
i dont make up the staff ratio that is the job of the care commission are they wrong? have you brought this to there attention?

and to finish it seems to me you are all about the money as that is all you keep mentioning. it shouldnt be about the money it should be about the ones who trust you and who you care for. when did people stop rembering that. and yes i am valued by them and that is all that matters to me!
48

K.R,

02/04/2008 17:01:26
well as i am self funding my own training i can assure you it's not all about the money, But i do want to be valued. i work with adults with special needs minimum staff ratio is 1 staff to two service users. I do not know why your hackle is up ? I don't reacall critising care staff who work with the elderley in fact i have said that you get the worst funding, and working conditions I am not saying that you in particular i am saying overall. don't be so niave to think that thier are not poor practitioners out thier, of course thier are and not just working with the elderely. If you are happy with the poor ratios in your work then fine if not? its up to you and your staff team to bring it to light, not me
49

K.R,

02/04/2008 17:16:06
p.s if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys ;-)
50

Miss S,

02/04/2008 17:18:30
#48 - you have actually been critising the Staff that work in care homes by suggesting that we hide things from the care commission and dope up residents with medication(comment 40), we dont promote choice or independence, we care for the residents in a conveyor belt manner(comment 20)
Last time you worked in one was???
51

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02/04/2008 17:19:46
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pooh bear,

02/04/2008 17:43:47
#48 who funds you? check 42 against 48.
People who work in nursing homes do a difficult enough job without half-assed reporting. good on you for being so valued but not all care staff are but still do a good job.
also staff ratios are determined by the care commission.maybe your reading isnt that good either, check 29.

#51 see you work in a care environment then!
53

K.R,

02/04/2008 17:46:20
well if you think that none of happens then fine, who am I to question it, as long as you think that the care you give is adequate, then fair enough. If you think that your pay and working conditions are good then im glad that your area of care has moved on.However i state again I would not work in that area, I am over skilled for it :-)
54

K.R,

02/04/2008 17:48:31
maybe yours is not good either as you never did answer the question that i asked TWICE. KEEP EATING THE PEANUTS. it seems to me you are just as institutionalised as the area you work in.
55

pooh bear,

02/04/2008 18:04:48
dont you dare use that word to me - instituionalised. that word has not existed since the dark ages. this is not about my work or yours cant u see the bigger picture or are your eyes closed with all that training you have being that your OVER-SKILLED.

oh and to finish my care is more than adequate and you should not be commenting on nursing care if it is beneath you!

you woulndnt be able to work in nursing homes anyway due to your over- sized ego!
56

ccharibo,

02/04/2008 18:06:46
Some of the people commenting on this article seem disappointed that there is no great scandal or tragedy uncovered. Charlotte Bailey should be applauded for not creating hyperbole and writing a measured and considered article, which seeks to raise awareness rather than the point the finger and highlight this home for being startlingly out of the ordinary. She does not criticise the attitude of the staff and does not generalise that care home staff do not actually care, which is what some of you seem to have inferred and taken very personally indeed, moreover she highlights points such as lack of supervision and equipment, about which we would clearly be concerned if it was affecting our relatives. Rather than pointing the blame at the staff alone, Charlotte makes it clear that this is an issue for the attention of the MSP. It is vital that reports such as this are conducted as it is only with a body of evidence such as these reports that more support for care homes and the elderly can finally come from the top. Stop criticising Charlotte - isn't it better that stories like this are out there than not??
57

K.R,

02/04/2008 18:12:32
so your service users don't start to get woken up at the same time every day? so they don't start to get thier meals at the same time everyday, so they don't start to get put to bed by the late shift at the same time every night? of course institutionalisation still exists! not on the scale that it has been done but they have taken people out o gogerburn and put them 60 bed care homes, you really have no clue do you.
58

K.R,

02/04/2008 18:14:56
I can invisage who you are, you are probs in you 50's, been working in care most of your life, you must be totally struugeling with the svq's , they are all about using a holistic approach...which can't be preacticed in large homes.
59

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02/04/2008 18:24:24
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K.R,

02/04/2008 18:37:33
i work in social, you just would not catch me dead working with the elderely, I don't have issues with the service user area, like i said I am overskilled to work in that area, I'm not blowing my trumpet, it's just true.
61

K.R,

02/04/2008 18:38:52
my comments are valid. I have no heard crap, i mean pooh critisise the area she works in....not once, really?
62

G.M,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 19:38:14
I think you are drifting form the story in hand. Residential care is a difficult decision to make for ones loved one. This whole story makes me cringe, thinking that someone has walked into my mothers home, under false pretenses knowingly invading her privacy and giving no thought to her dignity. Was this person observing or taking part in bathing or toileting your relative or loved one? DEGRADING! Gutter-press at its best. Where are your morals?
63

K.R,

02/04/2008 19:43:56
#62 you make a good point. potential care workers fill out a disclosure scotland forms, which should make background checks,these checks include any criminal background history, sadley though employers do take on staff before the checks are done.
64

badger464,

02/04/2008 19:48:49
ok, these biddies have had their lives, i pity the poor bu**ers doing the 13 hour shifts every week, and probably on the minimum wage too
65

Kaz18,

Edinburgh 02/04/2008 20:31:56
I think a lot of people are missing the point here. Charlotte Bailey has been sent out on this assignment as a reporter by a news editor to uncover what goes on behind the doors of care homes. And, she has faithfully and accurately fulfilled her role by reporting back with EXACTLY what she did find. OK, she might have not uncovered horror stories of abuse that would make this more of a "story" but neither has she stretched the truth or tried to make her story any better than what it is - it is merely a report on what she found there. We should be glad that she did not uncover terrible abuse and thank her that she is taking her findings to the CC. The main point is that it also acts as a clear reminder to care homes that no matter how stretched staff become, the high standard they adhere to should always be followed.
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02/04/2008 20:36:07
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ha06,

edinburgh 02/04/2008 20:48:20
The staff will be giving the best care they can to the old folk under intense pressure, being short staffed is outwith the carers control, all they will be doing is thier best and hoping for positive changes to make thier job more enjoyable, this article may just bring those changes even if to start its just sufficiant gloves and aprons to go around, if the staff are happy then the residents will be happier too. they probably are on a crap wage and could easily get a better paid job with more respect working in tesco but by not leaving what must seem like most of the time a sinking ship show that maybe these carers are still there because they really do care for the residents who live there and not doing it purely for the money.
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NurseLady,

Minnesota, US 02/04/2008 21:11:53
It is the same story here in the US. People who can afford nicer nursing homes get better care because there is more staff to care for them.
My uncle is in a nursing home that costs $7,000 a month, a much nicer place than the one he was in that was $3,000 a month. Luckily he has a pension and a house to sell to pay for it. If you run out of money or don't have any to begin with, the government pays some, but less than what it costs to live there, so the homes lose money every day.
Those places can't afford better food or more staff, and that is where the problems with poor care begins. I am a nurse and work in a hospital emergency department where we treat many nursing home patients for injury and illness. Do not blame the nursing home staff. They DO care and DO work hard but are far too overworked and understaffed to give the quality care they want to give. Nursing home residents need family to be involved by making very frequent visits, eating with residents at mealtime, and maybe helping out with enjoyable activities for the residents.
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pooh bear,

02/04/2008 23:42:29
The bottom line of this whole experience is that everyone in care would like to change something. Would it be more aprons and gloves, more time. But still most carers do the best job they can with the tools they have. They make sure the residents are happy - shouldnt that be what matters the most?
I understand what this report was tryimg to achieve (to a fashion) but went about it entirely wrong. More thought should have been put in rather than splashing it over the front page of a newspaper?

This reporter should have spoken to the people that mean the most in all of this and got there views - the residents, but she didnt - why?

To finish i know that if i had a member of my family in there i would be very upset. This is because this person was not who she said she was but, the residents still trusted her enough to help with there activities of daily living. And was she really as she seemed to me like she spent most of her time writing her diary!
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Dejajazz,

Edinburgh 03/04/2008 00:42:04
Having just read this article I find it hard to believe that this was all that has happened within this time period. I have personally worked in Ashley Court some years ago now but the reason I left was due to the poor hygeine, when I worked there the home was infested with scabbies which is a horrible thing to contract. I have to say that the picture this reporter has painted is more common place than people seam to realise. There should be a system in place for staff to report issues of concern confidentially as there have been many instances within my career where I have wanted to report situations which I have felt fell below the acceptable standard of care and have had no where to turn for help.
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e.x,

03/04/2008 03:40:04
This really is a joke, how can abusing the trust of residents and staff be seen as responsible journalism. Deceiving people to get a story that any carer in edinburgh could have told you if you had just asked. Some of the replies are just as bad.
K.R the svq is useless piece of paper. It teaches you nothing the very nature of it is to assess if your vocational skills meet certain standards. There is no learning involved, only the ludicrous way in which answers and reports are written. The very nature of the SVQ is to assess your skills and provides no vehicle for education. It is not a training course merely a complicated ill thought out assessment where they only difficulty is understanding the question.
An HNC also is not worth the paper it is written on, for that matter neither is a nursing diploma or degree UNLESS you have the desire and commitment to offer and continue to offer the highest level of care you can. You are over qualified for nothing however you do seem to lack some neccessary qualities to be a good carer. Sitting in a class for a year studying guidelines and policies in care DOES NOT make you a good carer despite what you think about yourself. Also carers (real ones) dont have to work in the poor conditions like you stated most carers earn around the minimum wage and can earn the same money doing most anything. They do the job because they WANT to. Yes some of them actually care as well.
Rant nearly over. The reporter need not have bothered herself, she could just have asked anycarer in edinburgh what is was like. Reading this report most of these problems are apparent in most care settings andhow this made front page news I will never know. Next time follow the care commission around and find out why THEY ALLOW this to happen. Whatever people say these are the people responsible for ensuring that standards are met.

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K.R,

03/04/2008 09:03:45
#72 working in care is more about wiping bums. the svq ensure that we all work to the a certain critera, it ensures we know why we do what we di in terms of legislation. |Hnc takes it a step further, it explores frameworks of policy making, it it explores psychology and socioligy that can be used in social care it goes more into good practice in terms of care planning and team working, service users deserve trained compitent staff to work with them, do they not?

i find it quite scary that you work in social care and yet you have these views


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K.R,

03/04/2008 09:10:36
let me see a good care worker.....
A SOUND VALUE BASE
SENSATIVE AND WARM PERSOANL QUALITIES
AND
KNOWLEDGE
I don't know about the first two but you clearly lack the last one.
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K.R,

03/04/2008 09:47:37
Just like to pass on that I don't sit in a class for a year, I self fund my hnc and the books and I work 6 days a week so i can get a day off during the week to go, I travel to 17 miles to J&E college to do so, I am committed.
I have experience of serveal care seetings from nursing homes to adults with profound special needs, Unlike yourself I do not like to stagnate in the one setting for most of my life...it's leeds to complacency.
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e.x,

03/04/2008 13:51:48
I also have experiance of working in a wide variety of care settings. Having began as volunteer before I left school going on to become social care officer with the social work locum. You seem to not understand what I am saying and you are taking this far to personally. The article is whats this is about and we have all had a say on what we think and there have been suggestions of how to improve it. I am not going to enter a personal war of words with you, i gave that up in primary school. I am in a fairly unique position for someone my age having worked constantly in the care sector for the last 16 years (I do not anymore) and I feel I am well placed to give judgement on the effectiveness of so called training. I was employed by the social work department when the svq was first introduced and have seen in grow and develop into the shambles that it has become. Think of it this way, everyone sits their svq level 3 say. Every carer has it, all we are left with is in your words over qualified people. Things do not change because of this so called training. Once everyone has an svq to their name we are going to back to square one, except now we have "over-skilled" people working in the same conditions. The national care stanrds were introduced a thte turn of the century (which I realise you already know) and I can say from first hand experience that they have made absolutely no difference to the actual care that service users receive. My point is that no amount of training, or studying etc will make a difference to the care people receive until it is properly supervised, and administered. Like I say apologies if you take it personally it as an insult anything I said. Lastly I am extensively qualified in the care sector so am defenitely not lacking in knowledge.

Good Day
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K.R,

03/04/2008 17:16:12
once everyone has thier svq they will not all be over qualified, beacuse if you know your stuff ( and you claim you do) not everyone can register with the sssc with thir level 3 in some settings you need svq and hnc. enjoy reading todays story re the bonnington nursing home.
my point was that i was over qualified to work in 11k a year care assistant job, my experience and training matched my salary, but i know I have a lot to learn still, again it's easy to get complacent.

 

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