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Published Date: 17 June 2009
A NEW broadband tax is to be levied on millions of homes to pay for the roll-out of super-fast internet access across Britain.

Every person with a fixed-line phone in the UK will pay an extra £6 a year from next year to ensure high-speed internet coverage is guaranteed across the country – even if they already pay for broadband connections.

The UK government yesterday announced plans to levy the charge – for at least seven years – to boost internet speeds to between 50 and 100 megabits per second (mbps) to build a "world-class communications infrastructure".

The proposal was part of the Digital Britain report, which also included plans to divert £15 million from the BBC licence fee to safeguard the coverage of Scottish news on STV.

However, proposals to implement a permanent "top-slicing" of 3.5 per cent of the licence fee from 2013 to subsidise commercial news rivals drew a sharp response from the BBC Trust. It warned it would not sit "quietly by" and allow politicians to use the licence fee – which raises £3.6 billion a year for the BBC – to become a "slush fund" to respond to issues of the day.

Scotland is to be one of three UK TV regions where a three-year pilot scheme will begin next April to divert unspent cash, raised via the BBC licence fee for the switchover to digital TV, to keep afloat news providers on ITV.

This follows major concerns that commercial TV stations such as Scottish Television (STV) would no longer be able to provide news bulletins because they had been so badly hit by the advertising downturn during the recession.

In its Digital Britain report, the government set out a "universal service obligation", similar to the right for every UK address to have a phone line, that will guarantee every home in Britain a broadband connection by 2012.

However, this will only be at a speed of 2mbps – well behind international rivals such as the United States and France.

The long-term aim is to use the 50p a month levy on fixed-line phones to raise between £150m and £175m a year to subsidise firms such as BT and Virgin to complete the roll-out of super-fast broadband across the UK by 2017.

About two-thirds of homes would be able to benefit from such download speeds because operators would install it as a matter of course.

But in the remaining third of the country – mostly rural and sparsely population areas such as the Highlands, North-east Scotland and the Western Isles – the commercial case is weak and the government therefore has to use the levy to subsidise coverage. Its aim is for 90 per cent of the UK to enjoy speeds of 50mbps or higher.

Announcing the plans in the Commons, Culture Secretary Ben Bradshaw said: "Just as the bridges, roads and railways were the foundation of Britain's 19th-century industrial strength, our digital communications infrastructure will help power our future success.

"Businesses, other organisations and individuals want access to high-capability, high-speed networks, both fixed and mobile. This is key to Britain's competitiveness."

Jeremy Hunt, the Tory shadow culture secretary, said the report – by communications minister Lord Carter, who leaves the government next month – was a "colossal disappointment".

He described the initiative as "digital dithering from a dated government". He said it was packed with proposals for consultation rather than action, while countries such as the US and Japan were already laying fibre-optic cables offering vastly superior download speeds.

He warned that the 50p levy might have to be imposed for 20 years to raise the £3bn cost of rolling out high-speed broadband.

He also criticised the proposal to use unspent cash from the digital switchover, saying that only 5 per cent of the UK had its signals switched from analogue – this was done in the Scottish Borders last November, with STV's Central and North regions following from next year.

The licence fee – currently £142.50 a year – was increased to raise £603m to help elderly and "vulnerable" viewers with the switchover, but Mr Hunt said viewers would prefer to receive a rebate on the cost of the licence fee.

Pete Wishart, the SNP culture spokesman at Westminster, said it was right to use unspent money from the licence fee to boost broadband communications. He supported the STV pilot scheme but was dismayed that the report failed to endorse proposals for a Scottish digital channel.

In a sign of battles ahead over the future of the BBC licence fee, Sir Michael Lyons, chairman of the BBC Trust, issued a strongly worded statement making clear his total opposition to the proposal.

"On behalf of licence fee payers, the BBC Trust opposes top-slicing," he said. "The licence fee has a clear aim, clear benefits, is clearly understood and has stood the test of time. Top-slicing would damage BBC output, reduce accountability and compromise independence."

The report paved the way for the switchover of all major radio stations to the DAB frequency, with FM and MW being handed over to "ultra-local" broadcasters by 2015. To speed the take-up of DAB, carmakers will be encouraged to fit digital tuners in new vehicles.

New laws will be brought in to tackle illegal file sharing, with new powers for media regulator Ofcom. Persistent offenders will be prevented from continuing to download illegally by legislation allowing internet service providers to block or greatly reduce their broadband speed.

AT A GLANCE

• Universal broadband speed of 2 megabits per second (mbps) for all UK households by 2012.

• A 50p per month levy will be placed on all households with a fixed-line phone line to build a fund to subsidise the move to "super-fast" broadband.

• This surcharge is expected to be imposed from next year until 2017, subject to legislation. It will raise up to £175 million a year.

• The aim of the UK government is for 90 per cent of UK households to have super-fast broadband.

• Up to £15 million is to be taken from the BBC licence fee to help subsidise provision of TV news on channel 3. A pilot scheme is being run in Scotland and, if successful, will be made permanent, with 3.5 per cent being top-sliced from the £3.6 billion raised by the licence fee for news on channel 3.

• A wholescale transformation of radio frequencies has been ordered, with the FM and MW signals being switched off for major radio stations by 2015. This will result in UK-wide coverage for digital radio.

• A closer partnership between Channel 4 and BBC Worldwide, the corporation's commercial arm, is being formed.

• Action on illegal file-sharing and downloading will result in industry watchdog Ofcom getting new powers.


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  • Last Updated: 17 June 2009 12:54 AM
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1

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 17/06/2009 00:23:56
Yeah, sod him. My
2

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 17/06/2009 00:24:05
broadband is
3

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 17/06/2009 00:24:17
fine
4

Douglas,

Bathgate 17/06/2009 00:37:19
Fah cough you wobble jawed, stealth taxing, inept, backstabbing excuse for an unelected leader.
5

nabodican,

Newton Stewart 17/06/2009 00:57:48
I will believe it when I see it, as for #1 comment - those of us on less than 500k should get a rebate then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6

Iainbroch,

17/06/2009 00:58:35
Another stealth tax and thus a con on us all! Even though my connection sucks he can stick his extra tax where the sun does not shine!
7

Edward,

17/06/2009 01:10:31
#2 Cynicus in Exile
Why on earth should the public be forced into paying for something that BT, who DOES have a monopoly on line provision get away without providing high speed phone lines?
BT is a private company, privitises by Maggie Thatcher
Now we have her number one fan Gordon Brown getting the people to dip into their pockets to help a private company out!
Ask yourself who actually benefits? Its BT as they can expand their Broadband network which THEY sell to the public as well as leasing to other providers!
BT should be dipping into their own money, the shareholders can do without a dividend for a couple of years at least, as in the long run they will reap the rewards
8

Daft Old Git,

17/06/2009 01:16:47
I've never used a computer and never will. Why should I pay?
9

truthsleuth,

17/06/2009 01:19:48

Why should I pay 50p tax on my telephone bill and the 'pleasure' of living in a big city to subsidise some rich self employed tax exile to live in the quiet spleandour of the countryside.

Let them pay extra on their local tax to subsidise broadband. That way we will see just how many want it.

NO WAY THIS IS A STEALTH TAX PAR EXCELLENCE.
10

Iainbroch,

17/06/2009 01:21:09
So they will divert £15 million to safeguard Scottish regional news - should that not read £15 MILLION TO SAFEGUARD LIEBORE LIES AND PROPAGANDA!

The more I look into these proposals the more they suck!

Perhaps the root of the problem is centralised institutions locked into the London gravy train? BBC(EBC) and BT!
11

Edward,

17/06/2009 01:24:17
#12 Daft Old Git
Excuse me for being disrespectful to a daft old git, but if you dont have a computer, how are you commenting on this online forum?
12

Edward,

17/06/2009 01:26:51
I watched all the TV channels yesterday. Perhaps its me, but in everyone of them they only mentioned ITV Regions and Channel 4. There was no mention of UTV or STV, neither of whch are part of ITV
Can only assume the £ 15 million for STV was hidden in the small print that wasnt mentioned
13

Daft Old Git,

17/06/2009 01:32:00
#15
Electric typewriter thing... Amazing
14

Fletty73,

Stirling 17/06/2009 02:03:56
50p is the last of my disposable income. Might try to make savings on my oxygen tax contributions. No breathing for an hour a day. I promise to try Gordon.
15

Solo Lobo,

17/06/2009 02:04:29
High speed broadband is a myth. Due to the ISP's offering speeds of "up to" 8, 10, 20 or 50 mbps but often only providing half the speeds advertised we are being conned. The use of download limits, capping and traffic shaping also results in speeds being reduced for many users.

BT are also considering deploying PHORM, a deep packet inspection system which can view every web site visited and the content of every page viewed. We will all be paying for BT and a questionable advertising company to spy on everything we do on the web. Great!

Great for the Government anyway as this will help with their Internet Modernisation Program which aims to do the same thing, in conjunction with their database to log all emails, landline and mobile phone calls and web browsing. So much for privacy.

16

Brian M,

Edinburgh 17/06/2009 02:08:57
No doubt it will be increased every year.

Did the Tories say that they would abolish it if the gain power?

Will it be a legitimate expense for Westmonster MPs?
17

Anonym,

17/06/2009 02:13:27

A tax on phone lines? Is that how the Japanese and the Americans went about funding their broadband networks?

What a rip off Britain is.
18

Anonym,

17/06/2009 02:49:53
I agree with Edward's point. By levying a broadband tax, we are being told to pay towards something which will generate profits for private interests.

It is not much different from forcing consumers to pay to have products advertised to them. What you actually want as an individual can go hang... because it's for the collective good.

Perhaps if the government stopped wasting cash, and stopped behaving like nutsacks, we'd be up to speed with the latest technology already.

Daft Old Git :) Your electric typwriter thing should be exempt from the interwebs tax, as a matter of principle.
19

Continental,

17/06/2009 04:46:46
My mum doesn't use a computer, does that mean she pays this tax whether she likes it or not?
20

catgut,

pomona 17/06/2009 06:32:47
Great another tax on the highlands. We pay more for fuel and now the phone line. How can they charge us for a broadband service we dont have?
21

brianmca3,

auld reekie 17/06/2009 07:08:08
Alexander Graham Bell,born in the city of Edinburgh,inventor of the telephone,now you would think we would have a museum or somewhere to mark,one of the worlds biggest creations
well we do,BUT its in London
surprise surprise
BT bought Bells birth place in edinburgh,but wanted to take away an internal spiral staircase
never heard again what they had planned
Glasgo should have a museum to Television after a son of Helensburgh,John Loggie Baird
If we had both museums in scotland,think of the levels of tourists coming here ,USA would have truck loads visiting as they have a long time love of TV and PHONE
22

brianmca3,

auld reekie 17/06/2009 07:10:22
Why doesnt brown use eome of the tax BT has to pay every year to westminster coffers?,oh sorry we cant have labour given away its fighting fund and gravy boat for its parasitic MPs
23

brianmca3,

auld reekie 17/06/2009 07:14:38
just a thought,why is virgin not being helped to spread the use of fibre optic connections
Virgin give customers up to 50mb broadband,yet its not worth running cables out into the countryside to small villages,thus ensuring the gravy flows BTs way
24

eric,

lothian 17/06/2009 07:22:01
Scrap the licence then folks can put food on table,the so called quality of the BBc is really just another cable channel its so bad,
25

Campaign Lawer,

Elgin 17/06/2009 07:34:27
Stealth Tax!

Just like the Road Tax

The money taken in by GB for the Road Tax is not spent on the roads. Anybody out there, have actual figures courtesy of "Freedom of Information Act".

There is little chance that the 50p will be spent on Broadband, more like Civil Servants Bonus's
26

Mapper,

South Midlothian 17/06/2009 07:54:57
13: "subsidise some rich self employed tax exile to live in the quiet spleandour of the countryside"

As one of the above (well... self-employed, living in the countryside, not sure how to turn that into a rich tax exile), I object to this extra tax too (how can I get to be a tax exile, if they add more taxes?).

I cannot see any logic in taxing anyone with a fixed phone line (with or without broadband) to pay for faster broadband. There is little point in having a
fixed phone line these days unless you are using it for internet access, so go mobile and avoid tax.

Apparently internet is as essential as water, gas and electricity. I haven't heard of anyone dying from a lack of internet, and I'd prefer them to install connections to gas and sewage before they runs miles of cables to improve my internet (despite running an internet based business from here)
27

john z,

edinburgh 17/06/2009 08:02:15
This is garbage!!!

So, let me get this right, even though I and most scots will NEVER get the new service, we will pay for it!!!! OVER MY F****** dead body.

This will be a classic case of the usual bull.."yes we expect the service to reach 90% of the population" So, that will mean 100% of the South east of england, and ZERO % of Scotland.

If you get the service you pay for it, if you don't get it, then why, why in should you have to pay for it.

I expect every MSP and Scottish MP to oppose this vigorously, regardless of their party.


And WHEN will Scotland get a proper full news service, instead of the anglo nonsense we have to pay for at present.

I might just get rid of my telley, as I'm not going to pay a license fee to subsidise better services in england, with poorer services in Scotland.

We want a FULL Scottish six, and nothing less will do.
28

Louis Catorze,

17/06/2009 08:20:28
#25....Antonio Meucci..inventor of the telephone.

And #27...never mind the countryside, they don't run it to some parts of central London either...
29

sam the god,

17/06/2009 08:25:25
can the MP's claim this back as well?
30

Nevsky;,

Moscow 17/06/2009 08:29:58
Mmmm...i wonder which areas of the uk will be first and last?

31

Porky,

West Midlands 17/06/2009 08:31:29
£6 is cheap for such a wonderful service -IF ONLY IT WERE TRUE - now Westminster is involved the internet is doomed - look at all the other expensive government IT projects.

Just one tiny moan - cut out this EBC cr#p. The BBC is a liberal metropolitan left wing organisation BUT it ain't English. It might ignore the Scots, but it hates us English (or "white British" as it calls us).

This whole thing will die anyway. It's just (your) Gordon being at the cutting edge again (like when in the middle of a major crisis he rang that pansy twot Piers Morgan to enquire about Susan Boyle.
32

daviddoyle@thebrain.fsnet.co.uk,

Inverness-shire 17/06/2009 08:56:25
My internet speed over the weekend was between 33 and 36kb. This was well below the simple needs of the e-mail system, loaded with spams which the internet provider can not do anything about.
My radio often only receives long wave but, at present, most of the day is occupied by cricket!
There is no tv signal but, after replying to many unacceptable letters I seem to have stopped the threats to send hounds to find a non-existent TV set.

Radio, broadband, TV, and mobile 'phone signals are not available to many in the Highlands and Islands so why should we have to pay this new tax just because we have a 'phone land line?
33

Unimpressed one,

17/06/2009 09:05:58
#13, Pity you don't bleat as much about the ROC that every consumer has to pay for due to tripe renewables. That's a damn site more than 50p a month.
34

Mike S,

17/06/2009 09:13:13
If everyone must have broadband will state benefits be raised to help the poor and unemployed pay for computer links?
35

donald,

glasgow 17/06/2009 09:25:52
#25 Sprinburn has been turned into a museum to honour a fat bustard in tights who lives n Bishopbriggs and London. Dunfermline has been turned into a museum to ...
36

cabbage on tayside,

17/06/2009 09:32:07
11 : Edward. What planet do you live on ? " BT, who DOES have a monopoly on line provision get away without providing high speed phone lines? " You are obiously unaware that the reason for Maggie's privatisation was to ensure that there was competition in the telephone market. Just a few pointers on broadband provision - Virgian Media , Carphone Warehouse , British Sky Broadcasting PLC. You can also get broadband via mobile networks. So to paraphase earlier comments this is just another stealth tax by Big Brother trying to wrap it up as " Look what we are doing now for your benefit "
37

Nookem,

cave and downgrading 17/06/2009 09:47:45
Remember the so called green tax gift for this corrupt govt. I did wonder for several years, when will this Labour govt find a way to tax the internet. The 50p per month is little more than a ``feeler ``once in place it will soon increase. I already pay for broadband. On principal I will have to consider getting rid of my landline and use a mobile,I am sure that a tax will be added to mobiles soon.
38

Richard Lionheart,

17/06/2009 09:51:05
Typical Brown/Labour answer to everything more tax or more fines!

If useless I D Cards were ditched we could pay for broadband 10 times over. If it is so important to Britain’s future then Government must prioritise not just spend more and increase taxes even more.

No doubt they will be able to claim the Levy back on expenses!
39

Nookem,

Labour stalag 17/06/2009 10:21:15
Jusy a thought! Is Gordon Brown really Susan Boil in drag ??
40

les vegas,

glasgow 17/06/2009 10:40:01
#11 Edward. Erm.. no actually. BT is a PART privatised Company. The Government still owns 51%. Same as all the other utilities. BT has had digital technology since the sixties. The reason they are floundering is due to succesive Goverments milking the cash cow, inept management, and a stranglehold around their throat by the name of Ofcom.
41

Willie Mor,

17/06/2009 10:45:58
Another Labour tax, just like all the other burdens introduced during their time in office -

- Pension fund dividend tax
- Mobile phone 3G licences (paid by artificially users)
- Landfill tax
- Flight duty
- Insurance tax - car,house,health et al
- Increased national insurance
- Climate levy on utility bills
- Mineral extraction tax
- Waste electronics consumer tax
- Increased petrol and diesel taxation.

And where will this further tax money go?

To the business chums of course! Where else would it go?
42

Independent Mind,

Buckie, Glasgow, Oxford 17/06/2009 10:52:14
"2 mbps by 2012"

Eh... what planet are these people living on?!

The next generation of 3G networks are currently rolling out offering 7.6 MBit/s with 4G networks nearing the market offering up to 100 MBit/s. Thats completely wirleless! Yet the UK Government is looking to get everyone on wired broadband at 2 mbps.

So, as usual, the Government is going to tax us and then force us to invest in an massively inferior product.
43

Greyhound Welfare,

Swansea 17/06/2009 10:59:57
We already pay 15% vat on our Telephone Line, call charges and internet connection. Yet we are going to subsidise BT and Virgin to do what they should be doing anyway. BT like Sky will not give you a new internet connection box if yours fails after the twelve months. Similar Sky will not give you a new SKY + box if yours fails after 12 months. Yet both organisations will still charge you the full price after the 12 months. BT will charge you £125 for a new line and hold you to a 12 month contract for that connection. Why should I have to pay a tax to subsidise a private organisation that already charges very high rates for you to have a phone line. Another New Labour rip off like all the money wasted keeping failing banks around so that their senior execs can take hand outs. Bet GB has a directorship already lined for when the country tells him and new labour where to go.
44

vorlic,

edinburgh 17/06/2009 11:02:56
i am already paying bt £100 a quarter for my B.B. and vat on my bill to the government.why not use the vat to improve speeds.another rip off
45

Mince Pie Supper,

17/06/2009 11:09:02
I don't know how to work the Internet and I hate when tubes call it Interweb.
46

Kenny A,

17/06/2009 11:09:03
What next. Highest taxs already. Go on the dole and let the fuc44555s see what comes into their expense accounts.

My broadband in UK is fine because I paid for it already.
47

Mince Pie Supper,

17/06/2009 11:11:15
I pay the same rate for my BT Broadband as everyone else and it is not fair that my speed is slower.

Why should people near the exchanges get the best porn.
48

Mince Pie Supper,

17/06/2009 11:13:05
Er, I still don't know how to work the Internet.
49

JulesF,

Kirkliston 17/06/2009 11:15:50
#51, Spot on !

I've got an HSPDA modem in my laptop and If they impose this tax I'll be cancelling BT !
50

Pete R ,

17/06/2009 11:16:35
Line rental, Internet charge, mobile phone charge, TV license, Sky subscription. +VAT.

Now a Broadband tax!!! + VAT?.

What next: a text and video levy, GPS and wireless network tax, car radio tax, mobile phone tax and a tax on owning more than 1 PC. Possibly a hearing tax.
51

Apophis,

Nearer Than You Think 17/06/2009 11:19:08
#48
Gordy clearly thinks he is like Susan Boyle
(according to the gospel of St.Bremner)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw-1wNozHVQ

On the Jon Stewart Daily Show, last week
he even morphed, der glorious fuhrer, into
Susan Boyle with the addition of a wig
and a string of pearls to his photo.
It was astonishingly realistic.

As to the 50p landline tax.
Strangely no mention is made of the
awful unelected crony of Gordon Brown
who is responsible for this policy.
He is of course, former Labour spindoctor,
Lord Stephen Carter, Baron of Barnes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Carter,_Baron_Carter_of_Barnes

Who are we to take lessons on running
an internet system from the man who
after all was instrumental in the
bankruptcy of NTL Broadband.

He left with Swan and Caviar dripping
from his chops, and now he is a life
Baron, yet another awful unelected crony
with his shirt slittered with Westminster
gravy, and a six figure salary at the
taxpayers expense.

I am retching as I write this.

52

Mince Pie Supper,

17/06/2009 11:21:59
Apophis, you like your return button eh.
53

Venachar,

17/06/2009 11:41:20
Renationalise BT and let them have the monopoly - nah, just go mobile.
54

Iain's,

Barcelona 17/06/2009 11:42:42
Good old New Labour.

Get the poor to subsidise the rich.

Thank you Gordon on behalf of the pensioners who do without to have a telephone line for emergencies and to keep in touch with their families.
55

donnelly,

17/06/2009 11:43:37
#56 ...your comment about sums it up in a nutshell. ha ha

but on a serious note I have successfully in Dundee operated via broadband to conduct my affairs and business activites which has invovled snedin numerous picture files (.. calm down #56 ..not that kind !! ..)and largesse files ..all on a system that frequently advises me is running at a maximum of 250bits ,,,and quite often down to ~ 50K ? ....so what worries me is when Labour come up with some wizzo idea ? ...you cna bet your bottom dollar there is an "alterior motive" behind it ???

Now when you look at a decent operating virus and malaware blocking program in action, you will be amazed at the ammount of intrusions are constantly being blocked from being set up in your machine from unknown outside sources ..to which these are obstructed by your virus and detection programs.

To my acknowdgement one of the greatest achivement with the advetn in Broadband is the epidemic spreading and rate of these virus's and malware and SPYWARE ???? due to even a small speed Braodband ..and your RELIANCE on indpendent programs and software to detect.so in reflection ?

What would be the chances of you finding something in the form of a Spyware virus running rampant via an improved broadband service using a software created to avoid dectection and with backing from an authoritive agency ?
..remember also ...when you delete things from your hardisc and system ...thay only got into the background and not dissapear fully ???
56

Il Penseroso,

Inverurie 17/06/2009 11:51:19
I say to all the good people who have commented on this, yet another stealth tax, this band of thugs at Westminster must be removed from office as soon as possible. We are already bankrupt and if kept in power(?) any longer will become a banan , defunct country. God help the choice voters in England have but here in Scotland we have a choice. Let's grab it and rid ourselves of a party who have betrayed the Scottish public for generations .... Scottish/New/Westminster Labour. They stink.
57

ACM,

Bearsden 17/06/2009 11:51:53
Why not have a tax so that people who have chosen to live away from the cities can be provided with other things associated with the dense inhabitation, e.g. cinemas, stations, superstores etc.

Alternatively, impose a tax on country dwellers to compensate us for poorer quality air, lack of scenery, etc.

More taxes please!
58

Overthescore,

17/06/2009 14:11:04
2Mb/s over this brittle aluminium core line? Bring it on, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYONE!
Hello, hello, BT? Are you receiving me?

This 50p couldn't be to pay for the Government e-mail spy shed thingy could it? Could it? Nahhh.
59

ddmc,

17/06/2009 14:12:34
time to ditch the landline folks
60

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 17/06/2009 15:01:07
Typically Gordon Brown - couldn't put it openly on general taxation, but tries to sneak it through as an "only £6 per year per landline" tax.

Meanwhile said general taxation is being pi$$ed against the wall on inflated salaries and expenses for MPs, MEPs and Lards, not to mention the evidently unnecessary BBC and countless daft quangoes for Labour placeholders.

Enough as someone noted above to dump the landline and just use a PAYG mobile.
61

Joe Macdelta.,

17/06/2009 15:42:14
This will be hived off for something else, and broadband will still be mostly s*%te in some areas, just one more increase in the Broon tax machine.
62

John PH,

Fife 17/06/2009 16:42:59
This six-pound broadband levy looks like a good old-fashioned stealth tax from Gordon Brown. He can’t help himself; he’s built that way. If it moves tax it, If it doesn’t move tax it and anything else in between is fair game.

This telephone tax should be taken out of the savings that are going to be made when the armed services return home when the war/invasion is ended in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Seems like the wise words of Thomas Paine, written in the seventeen Nineties still apply; “In reviewing the history of the English Government, its wars and it’s taxes, a bystander, not blinded by prejudice nor warped by interest, would declare that taxes were not raised to carry on wars, but that wars were raised to carry on taxes”.

No change there then.
63

John1,

Stirling 17/06/2009 19:34:58
When I had broadband installed I had to pay for my line to be upgraded, which I was happy to do. Now Gordon Brown is up to his tricks again. I trust this tax will be included in the calculation of Tax Freedom Day ( I think that's what it's called) when we stop working for the government and start working for ourselves. I think fundamental reviews of Government and the Tax System are called for, so that we can get rid of the expensive complications built in to the system. This should save us more than enough to pay for the services government should be providing, including this one. Let us not forget that all levels of government work for us, not the other way round.
64

Electric Hermit,

17/06/2009 22:54:23
The brain-dead whingers here simply don't understand the value of networks. Idiots!

65

Fred Leeson,

edinburgh 17/06/2009 23:35:50
#73
It's not all bad news. At least we'll all be comforted by the fact that you will be taxed every time you have a superfast tug while slavering over Gordon.
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