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Fat chance I'm paying for your extra weight



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Published Date: 27 May 2008
EVERYONE should pay for what they consume. Life is not fair. These two facts combine to tell us that deliberately overweight people should pay more for their aeroplane tickets than others. This conclusion becomes important in the wake of the decision of American Airlines to charge all passengers for not the second but the first bag they "choose" to check-in. It is a practice other airlines are adopting.
In years to come – when children are reared knowing all resources are precious and that everything must be accounted for – they will look back on the 21st century with shock and ask: "Are you telling me that other people had to pay when you as an
individual decided to be fat?"

That decision for fatness may not be as explicit as the hand you stick out to stop a taxi, but it is a decision. After all, who could say they had no idea that regime of fried food and no physical exercise might result in them becoming spherical? "Wait! Are you telling me that my consumption of fish suppers and the fact that the only exercise I get is bobbing on the couch in time to celebrity ballroom dancing has contributed to me becoming neither male nor female but merely hippo? How dare you?"

That point is important because most fat people are fat voluntarily. Those who are otherwise need not worry. We are not out to punish anyone with genuine physical disability. What we are about is recognising that you should pay for what you consume. If you don't then other people will have to pay for you – and that's just wrong.

This is an environmental argument more than a personal one. I agree there is nothing worse than sitting in an aeroplane seat with the chubby matter of the person next to you lapping at your shores like the waves of a blubbery lake.

But having someone with atrocious BO, or even a habit of biting their nails in time to the engine whining is an infringement of your personal space. The argument about paying for what you weigh is all to do with right and wrong.

Airline fuel costs are increasing by the week. The heavier the load, the more is consumed. This is why they are now asking us to pay for all checked baggage. Why should someone of "ordinary weight" – and that is pretty easy to define – have to pay the same as someone who has chosen – ie has no definable medical excuse – to weigh twice as much? Airlines are entirely correct in charging for checking-in by weight when it comes to suitcases. This rationality should take the next step and include TOTAL weight per passenger.

So-called discrimination on account of physical attributes is already with us, even when it is "unfair". Those with certain eyesight cannot become fighter pilots, even with contact lenses. Children or adults of a certain size cannot get on amusement park rides. Why should anyone of normal size have to pay a luggage charge when the fat person next to them is packing two roll-on Samsonites round their ribcage?

Unlike the first two examples, most of those wedging themselves into airline seats with all the decorum of a cat trying to sit in an eggcup have a choice – lose weight. In case you're wondering what category you fall into, here's a guide. If you can't pull down the in-flight tray without it resting on your belly, you're probably overweight – and unless you've got a medical certificate, that's something you alone should pay for.

Same old song
NOTHING in the world could matter to me less than who wins the Eurovision song contest. But nothing is more annoying than having the weekend chit-chat dominated by this monument to triviality.

So can we just pull out now please? It's quite clear that the voting now has nothing to do with content but instead has everything to do with geopolitical loyalties.

We can invent a new contest for the grown-up countries if need be.

Cooking the books
CAN someone in the Labour Party please explain the social inequality or public service that was righted by allowing Tony Blair to do up his kitchen for ten grand?

What possible justification can there be for deliberately exploiting available funds just because he could?

When will MPs and MSPs understand that public disgust and disenfranchisement from politics has everything to do with their behaviour and nothing to do with not liking arguments?





The full article contains 760 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 27 May 2008 9:39 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Brian Hennigan
 
1

Bertie The Bat,

27/05/2008 11:08:25
Let the train take the strain.
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 11:26:55
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a great, great fall,
And all the king's horses, and all the king's men,
Couldn't put Humpty together again, well,

Humpty Dumpty and Betty Louise, oh,
Stole a Sony and some Camembert cheese,
And she said, "Humpty, baby, ah... take me... ooh yeah...
"Take me to the river, ah- 'cause I like the way it runs, yeah.
"Ah, take me to the river, oh,
"You know I like the way it runs, yeah..."
3

fresian,

edinburgh 27/05/2008 12:24:23
I don't know anyone who choses to be overweight. Most American's can't help where they were born after all.
4

an interested party,

27/05/2008 12:44:32
everything else on a plane is measured by weight so i can see why they can measure humans by weight as well, unless there really are nippy about all those super models flying for cheap
5

Dorian,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 12:51:59
What about body builders, some of them are 18-20 stone, will they have to pay extra.

What about size zero people should they pay less.
6

CS,

27/05/2008 13:24:21
As a small slim person, who if I over induldged, would be a fat one, I will be very politically incorrect and say that; I for one am fed up being squashed by obese people on public transport,who inevitably sit by me because I am slim therefore leaving them more space to crush me! Several plane journeys have been nightmarish as I have been hemmed in by obese people being moved in beside me by airstaff who do so for exactly the same reason as I've mentioned. Fat is no longer a feminist issue, it is a universal one and is an insult to those in the world who are starving.
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27/05/2008 13:43:20
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Non Believer,

Edin 27/05/2008 13:47:43
#6 I totally agree with you, Im sick of sitting on the bus having paid for my ticket and this lard ar*e comes down bashing all those sitting in aisle's with the cellulite hips and is spying the seat next to me and I think you must be joking, but oh no, they plonk themselves down and then try and shimmy back into the space ..now I just say before they've hit the sit .. Im sorry you wont fit in there at your size .. maybe it will make them think about what they stuff in their traps .. try it, its amazing the response you get .. they dont sit down.
Maybe I will get bashed on the head one day with a plump fist but it will be worth it !!
9

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 27/05/2008 14:55:26
It is time for fatties to held more accountable for their glutony. The cost of treating disease relating to obesity is going through the roof, why should the tax-payers subsidise these hippos?

Perhaps it is time that food was taxed.
10

The Hallucinist,

27/05/2008 15:42:21
where's the Kirsty boydie Boyd-Williamson?
11

tomias,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 16:27:43
Tucked away in here is a reference to an RSB Scanner- for some only! Re A Blair and the fatist tendancy
12

loon fae the toon,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 17:04:26
#8 - I think you will find that it is usually the selfish thin people on the bus who believe that their shopping has bought a ticket with the right to sit on a seat that are taking up all the room - rather than overweight people - this article is shocking - at what point do you determine that someone is overweight? You might be 6'5" and be the correct weight for your height, but someone only 5'8" and the same weight will be overweight - does this not discriminate against someone who is tall just because they weigh more by virtue of their height? Or should only average weight, average height, average people be allowed to fly without being penalised - in this age of equality and non discrimination this appears to flaunt every aspect of discrimiation possible - good luck trying to implement that one.
13

Euan,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 17:05:07
I would say that anyone who is say over 25 stone/350 lbs should be charged more for their flight.

It would not be very fair(and I'm sure there must be cases like this every day)for an overweight passenger to encroach on other passengers' personal space(or even take up two seats)and expect to pay the same price for their ticket.

On the other hand, people like Worlds Strongest Man competitors for example can be well over 25 stones and not take up anything like as much space as an obese 25 stone person, but the fact is they are still 25 stone and far heavier than most 'normal' people!

The airline is operating a service and has a duty to other passengers' comfort and requirements, but it also has a duty to itself to run a profitable flight so surely they should be entitled to charge more for obese or very heavy people to fly.





14

Rv2!,

A skinny 12 stone person sitting on a drum stool. 28/05/2008 00:21:03
25 stone? 20 stone limit is more like it. Anyone over 20 stone is pretty big (regardless or reason.)

The more important thing I think needs considering is,
Does a plane, having 100 people each weighing 20 stones cost ANY more to fly than one carrying 100 10 stone people. Seriously, the plane weights how much? The fuel weighs how much? The cargo weighs how much? Surely another 1000stone (6 tonne!) won't add too much to the fuel bill.

737/600 = 31 tonne empty,
Max landing weight 50 tonne,
Max take off weight 60 tonne.
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28/05/2008 17:11:56
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Sam Clarke,

Edinburgh 29/05/2008 00:30:55
How would they even implement this? I mean what is 'overweight'? BMI doesn't mean anything.
"...this is why they are now asking us to pay for all checked baggage"??? get real Hennigan; it's because the airlines are corporate monsters. THIS IS why they charge me extra for odd sized luggage.
"This rationality should take the next step and include TOTAL weight per passenger". What happened to Brian's bull about choices? Noone chooses how tall or built they are.
What constitutes a suitably relevant medical reason? Arthritic joints? depression?
Brian Hennigan seems like an ignorant, glib, fascist, prat.I imagine he's probably very short. it is pieces like this that are why I never have and never will buy the Scotsman.
ps. I'm not fat. I'm very athletic and I travel on planes regularly.
17

Louis Catorze,

29/05/2008 12:33:33
#7....Personally I would think that having p00 smeared all over your face would be worse, but hey, each to their own, eh?

 

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