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Published Date: 02 August 2008
THE Scottish Countryside Alliance (SCA) has launched an attack on the RSPB, claiming the charity has used misleading figures over bird of prey killings to pursue an agenda against gamekeepers.
The row has flared up after the RSPB's publication of a report into the level of bird persecution in the UK, in which it claimed crimes committed against birds of prey had soared by 40 per cent last year.

In its annual Birdcrime report, the R
SPB revealed it had received 262 reports of illegal shooting, trapping and nest destruction of birds of prey during the course of last year, compared with 185 reports in 2006.

But the SCA has accused the RSPB of painting a misleading picture by basing its findings on reported incidents, rather than those that have been confirmed or led to prosecutions.

The SCA claims confirmed poisonings have in fact decreased to 76 last year from 85 in 2006 and prosecutions involving wild birds almost halved from 62 in 2006 to 33 in 2007.

There were 32 confirmed shootings of birds of prey, compared with 262 reported incidents of illegal shooting, trapping and nest destruction.

Tim Baynes, moorlands director with the SCA, said: "The result is a report which is misleading and unfortunately the RSPB seem more intent on an agenda against gamekeepers than giving a true picture."

He believes the RSPB could be encouraging police resources to be wrongly targeted by putting out "misleading" information.

"The RSPB should put aside what seems to be a persecution of gamekeepers and sporting estates, and join with the people who work in Scotland's countryside to find solutions to wildlife crime and bird persecution," he added.

But a spokesman for RSPB Scotland insisted: "We are absolutely not pursuing an agenda of persecution against gamekeepers." He argued that it was the SCA that was trying to "discredit the bare facts", which are "there for all to see".

"I think we are being quite honest and open about this issue and to try and project that we are not is little bit unfair," the spokesman added.

And he said that in fact it was due to greater support from gamekeepers that the number of reported incidents has risen and that the RSPB was quick to praise the industry when this happened.

"One of the reasons we have seen an increase in the number of crimes reported is that more people, including gamekeepers, are increasingly reporting incidents of criminality against birds of prey," he said.

But Mr Baynes argued including reported incidents in the survey is "unreliable", as they may be based on events that members of the public thought they saw but did not actually happen, or possibly even made up.

He said in the past members of the public have reported finding poison on an estate, only for police to discover it was grouse grit – fine gravel eaten by the birds to help their digestion.

"We are 100 per cent with the RSPB in wanting to stop bird of prey crime," Mr Baynes said, "but we have got to work with cast iron cases rather than hearsay. We have got to work with the facts."

But the RSPB spokesman said just because every reported incident does not end in prosecution does not mean the crimes did not occur.

He added that even reported incidents only show "the tip of the iceberg", with many cases concealed or going unnoticed.

He added: "I think progress has been made and I don't want to get into this tit-for-tat knocking lumps out of each other. That doesn't do anyone any favours."

Warning of danger to children as four poisoned buzzards found

FOUR poisoned buzzards have been discovered in Dumfries and Galloway, the RSPB has revealed.

Animal baits laced with illegal poison were discovered near the dead birds of prey, which were found in the Eaglesfield area, near Gretna.

The incident happened in March, but has only now been made public.

Sergeant Scott McLachlan, the wildlife crime officer investigating the incident, warned yesterday that children are at risk until the poisoning stops.

He said: "Persecuting any form of wildlife is a crime. I particularly dislike the use of poison because it's indiscriminate.

"My biggest concern is what happens if a kid is out playing.

"If they come across this bait and start poking about at it and get it on their fingers, they could become ill."

It is the second confirmed case of poisoning in Dumfries and Galloway in the past eight months. In December a red kite was found poisoned.

Sgt McLachlan fears such incidents are on the increase, after about four years with no cases.

Chris Rollie, RSPB Scotland's local area manager for Dumfries and Galloway said: "Citizens of Dumfriesshire will be sickened and disgusted that their countryside and its reputation is still being tarnished by a few selfish individuals.

"When great efforts are being made to attract visitors to rural areas, the negative message of an illegally poisoned countryside is the last thing we need, whilst the effect on wildlife is appalling."

Anyone caught can be fined or given a prison sentence. The Scottish Government has the power to withhold farm payments from any landowner whose employee commits wildlife crime on their land.









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  • Last Updated: 01 August 2008 9:37 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Birds of prey
 
1

Matt there,

somewhere 02/08/2008 01:33:55
Tim, instead of whining and boo-hooing like a little girly, why not DO something about the cases that you DO accept?
2

madrab,

Edinburgh 02/08/2008 08:24:05
There is clearly a problem here with few dodgy gamekeepers and landowners.

If the SCA think otherwise then they are still living in the alternate universe that driving your 4x4 into the city a few times for a half hour protest would stop the ban on hunting with dogs.

Why don't the government introduce a scheme where all gamekeepers need to be licensed?

It seems to work well with bouncers in clubs.

It would also be a help if landowners were held to be responsible for any birds poisoned on their land, a few large fines or jail sentences would soon cut this out.
3

gus1940,

Edinburgh 02/08/2008 08:46:00
How many gamekeepers have been jailed for killing raptors?

How many landowners have been jailed for killing or encouraging the killing of raptors?

How many egg collectors have been jailed?

An egg can produce 1 bird which with a lot of luck may survive into adulthood.

An adult bird in its lifetime can produce many offspring which may survive into adulthood if not slaughtered by gamekeepers or landowners.
4

ignorant townie?,

Scotland 02/08/2008 08:47:00
Well said madrab....except that it is not " a few dodgy gamekeepers and landowners"...talk to any young keeper off the record and you will hear appalling tales of them being told to use poison/illegal traps/destroy raptor nests as soon as they come under the influence of their head keepers.Unless they are the type who want to kill anyway in which case thet y are having a lovely time in their cammo gear with silenced rifles....

What you are seeing with this "war of words" [actually, just a denial of reality by the SCA - do they actually think that 76 poisonings are acceptable??]...is a clear attempt by the shooting industry to scare off the Police and Crown Office from involvement in wildlife crime cases involving estates. Which is distressingly easy.We still live in a rural society where a letter of compliant from a large landowner does sway senior police officers.

The root of bird of prey persecution is in the fact that the whole shooting industry [apart from a few small time rough shoots]disagrees with protection of birds and animals which eat their artificial grouse pheasant and partridge stocks. This is all about money, with the "tradition card" thrown in when needed to fool the gullible.

Time for some hard ball...the eagle killers and their apologists need to be got rid off...they are bringing shame on to the whole country by continuing to act like 19th century despots corrupting the police/justiciary and politicians.What is needed is a dedicated, experienced and even handed police crime force - immune from the pressures of local or national politics and investigating wildlife crime "without fear or favour"....not much to ask when our main industry, tourism, is at stake...you would think...??
and finally....even if you are a hardened shooter who hates seeing raptors eat your game...remember how these people are killing these wild birds....this is no sporting kill were talking about - its often slow and very very cruel.Are these the people you want def
5

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 02/08/2008 09:01:47
I used to have hundreds of birds feeding in my garden but, for the last couple of years, there have been none. A sack of bird seed would only last a few weeks, now it lasts for months. However, I do see buzzards and the odd sparrow hawk several times a day now (they're actually very nice birds).

It is high time the RSPB tried to achieve a sense of balance. After all, once all the small birds have gone, the hookies will move on too.

#3
Gamekeepers get no personal benefit from trying to control predators but they are employed to ensure good husbandry of estates on behalf of the lairds and most recognise that this requires a good wildlife balance. However, the keeper is invariably vilified and punished when there is any activity against birds of prey on his land. The lairds should be vicariously held equally if not more accountable.

Sentences are far too lenient. The risk of a five year ban on using any firearm would focus minds far more effectively than the threat of a fine.
6

Upbeat,

02/08/2008 09:40:50
Once again this topic begins to go round and round through these comment columns.

Two points . First a large number of households use poisons everyday some of which inevitably will get into the food chain. Some types of Rat bait,many types of weedkiller along with household cleaning fluids are detrimental to wild life.

The second point is that although the carcase of some birds are found many are not. Today the anti shooting and anti field sports pressure groups have an agenda which depends on carcases being found.This means that more people are out there hunting for these things. It does not mean that the reason for the death of any majority of birds is ever possible to confirmed by proper scientific analysis.

Now we all can see that there have been some cases where Birds of Prey have been poisoned. What we do not know is whether the majority of all carcases found have been either deliberately poinsoned...when they might have accidentally consumed poison, or that the employees of any sporting estate were actually the culprits. This is the reason why so few prosecutions will ever be possible.

For prosecition to stand any chance it is firstly essential to identify which poison was supposed to have been the cause of death. Second it is essential to work out where the poison may have come fom.

Simply blaming those who these pressure groups wish to put out of business for all wild life crime, overlooks the truth that this makes it possible for extreme animal rights groups to plant " evidence" where they feel most possibility may exist that it will subsequently be found and reported.

The subject is by no means as clearcut as the anti field sports campaigners would like the general public to believe. There are all sorts of reasons why birds of prey may not survive in this modern chemical age, in the wild. Each carcase found does not have to point to a wildlife crime at all.
7

Pilrig.,

Livingston 02/08/2008 10:31:43
7 - I wonder what the percentage of grouse found poisoned on the hunting estates is compared to raptors ?
8

overton,

balmedie 02/08/2008 10:45:24

It would be interesting to know if the RSPB have a policy against the domestic cat as they are responsible for more bird deaths in the UK than cars, raptors, shooters and disease combined.

Perhaps it is difficult for them to discuss that predator issue as so many of their members have one.

Instead they again attack gamekeepers with a folio full of lies, speculation and unsubstantiated allegations.
9

overton,

overton 02/08/2008 11:48:37

10 Nomada

If you bothered to read what I actually said you will see that there is no predudice intended only a statement of fact.

Dispute the fact if you will but don't start with your ignorant, high handed, arrogant and abusive approach again.

The failings and actually predudices of both you and the RSPB are very apparent from your recent involvement with the Menie PI.


10

Upbeat,

02/08/2008 12:07:54
8 Pilrig

Not sure what the reason for your question might be...you do not make your point at all clearly ( if there is one .)

It may have escaped your notice that raptors are in the main carnivorous. Grouse are not.
11

Pilrig.,

Livingston 02/08/2008 13:58:40
12 - Like yourself I'm just indulging on a bit of conspiracy theorising. I mean the RSPB out to poison raptors, who next ? the pesky hikers ?
12

Resolutions,

02/08/2008 14:38:50
I confess that I have not read this particular report, but I have read others. The RSPB are usually careful to not point the blame at any one group in reports of this nature.

What I find interesting is the landowners/gamekeepers reaction! Is this a case of thinking that the cap fits and throwing a hissy fit?

Over the years, the landowners are always going on about 'managing estates'. The RSPB, the farmers, the forestry folk have all to 'manage land'. Everyone has vested interests. Is it beyond the capabilities of the landowners to work with the others to find a solution to this poisoning problem? Or are they so arrogant that they think, they, and they alone, know about managing estates?

Poisoning and trapping is not a solution to a raptor problem as it tends to not 'stick with an intended target'. We have got a great deal too blase with the use of chemicals in our lives - all of us - and we need to think more about their use. This is not just the poisons for birds(obnoxious as it is), but about rat/ mice, weeds (which destroy insects important for pollination) and so on.

It should not be beyond the capabilities of those involved in land management of all types, to work together to stay within the law with regard to our rich wildlife and sporting interests for the general good.
13

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 02/08/2008 17:33:25
Obviously in a choice between a well meaning decent charity and a bunch of countryside nutters hell bent on shooting or poisoning anything that moves who are you going to believe?
14

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 02/08/2008 19:30:09
#16
I'm not aware of the RSPB "shooting or poisoning anything that moves" although I do agree that some of its policies of exterminating wildlife that doesn't fit into its idealistic portfolio can be a bit hard to stomach at times.

 

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