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Published Date: 22 June 2009
Ministers today claimed growing support for setting a minimum price for alcohol as part of Scotland's battle with the bottle.
Dr Harry Burns, the country's chief medical officer, said the policy would bring immediate results, saving lives within a year.

And a spokesman for Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon said minimum pricing was backed by all four of Britain's chief med
ical officers, as well as the police and the licensed trade association.

The claims came ahead of an alcohol summit in Edinburgh today attended by more than 100 delegates from political parties, the NHS, the alcohol industry and retailers.

"As with the smoking ban, Scotland is once again leading the way," said the spokesman.

"Ministers want to have the fullest possible dialogue as we bring our proposals forward to Parliament."

Alcohol advertising near schools would be banned under proposals which Labour will take to the meeting, and the Liberal Democrats want "alcohol referral schemes" in which under-18s picked up under the influence, or trying to buy drink, are referred to an alcohol health worker.

Ahead of the summit, Ms Sturgeon insisted the Scottish Government was "determined" to press ahead with plans to stop drink being sold for pocket-money prices.

A minimum drink price was one of the main elements of a Scottish Government proposals announced earlier this year to tackle an alcohol problem costing Scotland more than £2 billion a year.

A figure of 40p per unit of alcohol has been widely speculated, making the minimum price of a 13% bottle of wine £3.90.

"We have to persuade others, as as we do on any other policy," said Ms Sturgeon.

"A minority government has to get at least one other party to back us.

"I am determined to do that."

Dr Burns told Scotland on Sunday: "I am convinced we will see an impact within the first year. There would be people alive at the end of it who would have been dead without the policy.

"I am convinced the problem is serious enough that we should do it."




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1

Lausanne Jellies,

22/06/2009 11:56:09
Imagine what they would say if there were minimum pricing for rounds of golf.
2

Warden Resurrected,

22/06/2009 12:05:10
Alcohol is the taxation which brings the working class man and woman down, and stops and advancement. Until the working class realise this they will carry on paying more and more for their own doom.
3

IainA,

Edinburgh 22/06/2009 13:06:10
Is it just me having a paranoid attack, or is this more creeping health authoritarianism? What's the difference between being forbidden to do something because it's for your own good and being forbidden to do something because the state says so. I'm sure there's a world of purely philosophical differences, but in practical terms, you're still prevented from doing it (whatever "it" may be). Time was doctors and health care professionals restricted themselves to giving advice, as they considered that patients private lives were not thier concern.
4

Marga,

Edinburgh 22/06/2009 13:36:12
If only it was "a" fag and "a wee" drink. Doctors are facing a situation of mass addiction with most of the people affected in denial.

The good life also exists at the end of the abstention/ cutting down tunnel, but how do you get people to see it?
5

joppie joppie,

Aberdeen 22/06/2009 15:10:01
#3
The only pleasure the working man can enjoy??
Try visiting some wards in my hospital where the working man's body is so abused by alcohol that they cry like babies. Or their brains are so addled and pickled that they see things coming out the walls. Aye thats a fine pleasure to look forward to!
6

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 22/06/2009 15:49:08
Looks like the SNP Government is on the right track with this one.

Something has to be done to reduce Scotland's love affair with alcohol.
7

Franny Goodwin,

"JUST ONE FOR THE ROAD" 22/06/2009 16:02:27
ladies & gentleman if i could turn the clocks back 30 years i would never have taken my first drink, it's a lot down to peer presure or being the big man, showing of etc !!, i'm an Alcoholic, sadly i've been on & of the waggon most of my adult life, having read all your bloggs i was amazed to read number 6* joppie joppie for that is me your taking about, back in 1997 i saw things coming out the walls, did a bit of rehab, sadly it never worked, i've had the shakes, anger, police, jail, lost my liecence twice, cry like a baby most of the time, ready for rehab once again but i must be abstinant for 2 weeks, i had my last drink at 10pm last night, i will try my hardest to crack on.
If alcohol were invented today it would be classed as a Class 'A' Drug. "THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE SALOON"
8

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 22/06/2009 16:24:41
#3 and #4

minimum pricing isn't about stopping you have a drink - it's about stopping you drinking a lot of cheap booze. My local sells 3 litres of Frosty Jacks strong cider for under £3. Now I like a drink but if I go to the pub I'm paying about £2.50 to £3 for a pint. Frosty Jacks works out at about 60p a pint. And it's 7.5% strength. So, minimum pricing is not about stopping you having a drink; it's about stopping people drinking to excess and, particularly, binge drinking on cheap booze.
9

Earman,

Paphos 22/06/2009 16:30:39
Shock! Horror! Not this awful Scottish Government acting in the best interests of the vast majority of Scotland's people AGAIN?! For Goodness sake, what WILL the "naw we canny" merchants say?!
10

Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

22/06/2009 18:03:33
#8 Franny

Hi. Have never been as bad as you appear but have fought the booze all my adult life. Am now almost utterly Teetotal cos I know how easy it is to slip back into, like Satin Sheets onna bed.

I knew how bad I had got when a friend visited relatives near Glasgow an' I asked her to bring me back a bottle of Buck, my 1st ever.

She did.

I sunk that bottle SO easily and she was horrified, expecting me to regret it, be sick an' whatever and I didnae!! In fact I went next day to a local Offie and bought another! After that I had to look at my habit and make a decision - that was awfie hard I can tell you.

Good Luck Franny, may your gods look after you.

As for minimum pricing, why only Scotland? The whole of the bloody UK needs it, there's always drunken neddy's (chavs, scunners) where-ever you go, drunk on cheap alcohol wi' no control from polis or parents
11

WL,

Livingston 22/06/2009 18:24:00
The cheapest wine at ASDA at the moment is a 11% wine for about £2.40. If this is to go up to £3.90 that means an additional tax (VAT and Excise) of £1.50 per bottle - a price increase of over 60%. Is that additional tax going to Edinburgh or Westminster?
Is someone trying to make up for the loss of tax on lower sales of tobacco?
12

Alan B,

22/06/2009 18:26:34
Personally i support the snp policy to increase the min age for alcohol from an off licence. Would like the age lowered for drinking from a pub. Say 16 or 17. It could be a beer only option not to encourage alco pops and hard liquer.
13

Observer,,

Glasgow 22/06/2009 18:42:05
I don't actually think this will make much of a difference. If you look at drinks like Buckfast or Mad Dog (look at them only for heavens sake, don't drink them) then they won't be affected by the pricing policy, they are already more than 40p a unit. I agree it will probably stop the cider drinkers but they will just find some other way of getting out of their heads.

It will probably affect people who buy wine out of supermarkets, but it's hardly likely to stop them buying it, they will just have something to moan about and blame the SNP for.

And unfortunately the smoking ban has driven a lot of people out of the pubs and they now drink at home - and are probably drinking more.

Sometimes it's best to educate people and then just leave them alone. I don't think you can alter personal behaviour in terms of alcohol or tobacco consumption by legislation. It's a choice, and people resent the Government attempting to make their choices for them, even with the best of intentions.

14

Brian M,

Edinburgh 22/06/2009 18:58:17
That will be the 'top medics' who only drink vintage wines at the bottle price of a small semi detached house
15

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 22/06/2009 21:52:56
"As with the smoking ban, Scotland is once again leading the way," said the spokesman.

Leading the way to what? Oppression? Restriction of freedom? The nanny state? Nazism?

The smoking ban has not saved one single life yet, despite us being told lies that it would save 3,000 lives a year.

This categorically stupid idea will not save any lives either. All it will do is increase the cost of living to those who are least in a position to afford it.

I am sick to death of all this nazi state puritanism.
16

syntax,

Edinburgh 22/06/2009 23:21:55
We truly are living in a Nazi state. This government are totally unable to stop 10, 11 and 12 year old children smoking and drinking. Maybe if they tackled that issue, and succeeded, then we might just believe it's abot saving us from ourselves. In reality, the government, police and local authorities lost the plot years ago.

Hitler was defeated. Now we have a Nanny state dictating what I should eat, drink, behave - how long before they start to dictate the colour of my hair, my clothes etc??? surely it's only a matter of time.

Stop interfering in the day to day lives of citizens - trust me, you will regret it and you will lose.

I will do as I please. I will eat and drink what I want. If I choose to smoke (which is a legal activity) then I will do so...............
17

Another Whitewash,

glasgow 22/06/2009 23:59:38
Another fascist policy .
These stuck up Nazi’s wont be happy till we’re all in camps and eating porridge for breakfast. Let’s face it alcohol and cigarettes are about the only luxuries the poorest can buy but if it’s left to these fascists everything the poorest like will be forbidden but be reassured the poorest will still be dying at the age of 52 not because of poverty but boredom
18

hoblar,

23/06/2009 00:02:06
"Blah blah ,,,,I will do as I please. I will eat and drink what I want. If I choose to smoke (which is a legal activity) then I will do so..............."

Big wows.

And thanks for pointing out that smoking "is a legal activity".

Amazing stuff.
19

hoblar,

23/06/2009 00:06:39
Some dodo said: "Another Fascist Policy:

These stuck up Nazi’s wont be happy till we’re all in camps and eating porridge for breakfast."
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Alright, you can have Coco Pops, but only on a wednesday.

Sometimes the odd bowl of crunchy Nut,

How's that for a compromise?



20

hoblar,

23/06/2009 00:12:32
Someone mad said: "We truly are living in a Nazi state."
-------------------------------
I say: Where where?
-------------------------------------
someone mad: " This government are totally unable to stop 10, 11 and 12 year old children smoking and drinking."

Me: What about their mums and dads?
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Someone clever reckoned: "Hitler was defeated."

Eh?

When did this happen likes?

 

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