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House price warning for Scots as regional variations mask stagnation in market



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Published Date: 02 July 2008
SCOTTISH homeowners were last night warned they are not immune to the global credit crunch and will face tough times for at least a year – despite figures showing the country is the only one in the UK to buck a national house price slump.
According to research from the Nationwide building society, prices north of the Border are continuing to rise – due in part to the oil price spike fuelling the Aberdeenshire market – while the rest of the UK is crippled.

But experts told The Scotsman the figures masked a stagnation in property prices as consumer confidence faltered in the face of the credit crunch.

The Nationwide survey showed Scotland had an annual rise of 0.6 per cent, although prices had fallen 1.8 per cent in the last quarter. UK-wide, it showed annual house price inflation at its lowest since the crash of 1992. Value has fallen for the eighth consecutive month, wiping £13,629 off the average price of a home since last October's peak.

The bank said the picture in Scotland was brighter because the market had not initially swelled so exponentially north of the Border, and the oil price boom had driven demand in the North-east.

But Jamie Macnab, head of agency for property specialist Savills Scotland, warned against complacency.

"A lot of people say Scotland will get away with the property recession," he said. "I just don't see how that can be true when the market in the whole world is falling. What we can hope for is that Scotland will see smaller price falls than the rest of the UK, and a more rapid recovery, but we definitely face a drop."

He said sellers would have to consider dropping their price expectations, as this was the only way to counter stagnation in the market.

"We need the uncertainty to work its way through the system, for banks to stop announcing rights issues, and for credit to return," he added.

Meanwhile, separate figures released by Glasgow Solicitors Property Centre show the west coast boom has come to an end – although the organisation claimed the region was unlikely to face a slump on a par with the rest of the UK.

The average price of a home in the area is now about £146,500 – £300 above that recorded at the end of June last year. Prices in Glasgow now average £155,300 – £700 higher than 12 months ago.

GSPC's chairman, Michael Samuel, admitted the market had "slowed markedly this year" but said there was "still a keen interest in moving home".

Carolyn Campbell, a senior sales negotiator with the estate agency Strutt & Parker, which is based in Glasgow, said sales in the region had slowed dramatically.

She predicted "uncertainty in the market" for at least another year and called on banks to look again at their lending criteria to encourage movement in the market.

But Fionnuala Earley, Nationwide's chief economist, said Scottish house prices had "already proved more resilient than prices in other UK regions during the first quarter" and this had continued.

She said it was mainly down to better affordability north of the Border but added. "Nonetheless, Scottish prices have not been immune to the overall downturn in the UK housing market, and have now shown quarter-on-quarter declines for the second quarter in a row."

The price rise brought the average cost of a home in Scotland up to £149,541, with the capital remaining the most expensive and the south the cheapest.

Aberdeenshire and Moray had the strongest increase, while Renfrewshire and Inverclyde had the weakest.

However, Aberdeen University sociologist Dr John Bone, who has been exploring the housing issue, said: "As far as the North-east is concerned, we appear to be at a stand-off period, where the number of properties for sale is rising but sellers are not yet willing to accept that the boom is over. Scotland, including the North-east, followed the south into this boom, but cannot escape what is happening nationally."

The Nationwide figures were released a day after the Bank of England revealed that mortgage approvals for house purchases had slumped to a record low, suggesting there are further falls to come. Economists branded the data "dire" and said it suggested the picture was worse than previously feared.

Experts give their top 10 recommendations for weathering the storm

1 Ron Smith, chief executive, Edinburgh Solicitors Property Centre

Arm yourself with information on how the market is performing for the sorts of properties you are looking at, as well as the area in which you want to buy. National averages often don't reflect local trends and it's important to understand what's happening locally.

2 James Jopling, head of campaigns, Shelter Scotland

Do not bury your head in the sand if you face trouble paying for your home. Talk to your lender, or advice bodies about, for example, repayment plans, or applying for the state-run mortgage rescue scheme.

3 Sarah Stanger, sales and marketing director, Cala Homes East

Get a good financial adviser and get your finances in place so you know what you can afford and have a realistic value of what you are selling. Then go for a reputable lender who will give you a good deal.

4 Alasdair Humphery, director of capital markets, Jones Lang LaSalle

Sit tight and weather the storm. We are in the middle of a market correction with some sectors such as retail and shopping centres being the first to feel the pain. There may be opportunities for investors to take advantage of the falling value of commercial property at the end of the year.

5 Nikki Swain, property sales manager, Pagan Osborne

Find a proactive estate agent who will work with buyers and sellers, keeping in touch and matching people to potential properties, rather than just processing the paperwork.

6 Mark Hordern, marketing manager, Glasgow Solicitors Property Centre

When you are making your choice – and there is plenty of choice out there – don't be put off by superficial factors such as the decor. Instead, concentrate on factors that are impossible or more difficult to change such as location and size.

7 Scott Brown, estate agency partner, Warners

This is the time when first-time buyers should be looking to get their feet on the property ladder.

The market is remaining steady, but there are currently more people selling than buying, so there is a wider choice of properties on offer.

8 William Frame, chairman, Braemore Property Management

For investors, this is a great time to be buying property as there are fewer competitors in the market and sales are unlikely to go to a completion date. In some cases, you could even secure a property at a discounted price, which is a real incentive to those looking at a long-term buy-to-let venture.

9 Alison Burns, director of network mortgage sales, Lloyds TSB

Putting off plans to re-mortgage is a false economy and this new breed of "wait and see" homeowners could end up costing themselves more in the long run.

Sitting on your standard variable mortgage rate is never the best option, so my advice would be to start shopping around well before your current mortgage deal expires.

10 Stuart Black, head of sales and marketing, Knight Frank

In an uncertain market, the best advice both to those who are looking to sell their property and those who are looking to purchase, is to be patient and not to panic.

Granite City heats up a market that's cooling down

RISING world oil prices have buoyed up the property market in Aberdeen and surrounding areas and have helped protect Scotland from the UK market downturn.

The Granite City was the fifth "hottest" major city in the list – the only Scottish mention in the rankings. Homes there sell at an average of £225,124 – an increase of 153 per cent in a decade – and in Aberdeenshire and Moray the price has increased 162 per cent to £165,600.

Denise Merson, head of residential services in Ledingham Chalmers, said there had been a 21 per cent year on year increase of hits on the Aberdeen Solicitors Property Centre website.

"We have a good economy in Aberdeen and a lot of job security, and earnings are higher here," she said. "It means this area has been more cushioned. That's not to say we are immune."

The full article contains 1415 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 02/07/2008 00:24:08

'Aye', the good days are over!

Why does no-one learn through history,?
2

bring them on,

02/07/2008 01:47:54
Why does anyone think that if they buy a house it should rise in value.

All this moaning because the value didn't rise...

After all, you're no buying a government bond.
3

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 02/07/2008 06:32:20
It was never house prices going through the roof it was the worth of your money dropping through the floor.

Local Authorities? Well they aren't. The initiative and civic responsibilities of our chartered burgh towns has been exppropriated by re-organising local politics in the interests of big business, banks and property speculators. Our towns once had substance, lands and property; now we have jumped up fat-headed over-payed as they are usesless "CEOs"!
4

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 02/07/2008 07:12:10
Lower house prices are a GOOD thing. Everyone should own their own home. Lower prices makes this ever more possible. So what my house will now sell for less than I paid for it? As we're happy here for life then, barring ill-fortune, its selling price doesn't matter.
5

mr angry,

ayrshire 02/07/2008 08:15:30
#4 Bully for you , what about the majority of people who will want to move. Agree prices being stable or only rising slowly is a good thing , but for anybody that bought in last year or two who may have no choice in moving due to work or lack of it , lower prices are NOT a good thing. But you will be OK so no worry.
6

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 02/07/2008 08:57:57
#5 Mr Angry.

Agreed, it's not so handy for that tiny minority that HAVE to sell. However, as they will find their next home cheaper, it's not all bad news for that tiny monority. Far more people suffer when prices go up!
7

Palermo,

02/07/2008 09:30:38
#6 Mr Federal

a "tiny minority" you say, whose life circumstances change, such as those having a baby (or babies) who outgrow their accommodation, those who suffer a bereavement, those who change job, those whose job is taken away from them, or even (God forbid, taking cognisance of your naive username) those who seprate (to name but 5 circumstances)

You must have done well to get this far in life with none of the above, and to not know anyone who has had such circumstances.

I can only assume that is your experience of life, if you actually believe it is a "tiny minority" who have to move house at one stage or another

Please feel free to 'separate' yourself from this discussion :-)

Yours 'in fede'

Palermo
8

ccc,

02/07/2008 10:19:58
"Scotland was brighter because the market had not initially swelled so exponentially north of the Border"

"boom has come to an end"

"sellers are not yet willing to accept that the boom is over."

"Scotland, including the North-east, followed the south into this boom"

"The Granite City was the fifth "hottest" major city in the list"

GLARING INCONSISTENCIES. The one and only reason we are all being given as to why Scotland will 'Weather the storm better' than the rest of the UK is this:

We have not had the same boom and bust as the rest of the UK.

This logic would be fine except for one small problem - WE HAVE JUST HAD A BOOM !!!!

The bust will follow. That is a certainty and a fact. No point even arguing it.

Most people will be better off due to this crash in 3-5 years. Yes, those who bought in the last 2-3 years will not be. But everyone can't be winners.

Those who have looked into the market and DECIDED not to buy when everyone was telling them to will be the winners. We should celebrate this. Prudent sensible people being rewarded whilst those who have jumped in head first without a thought will be punished.

Seems pretty fair and reasonable to me.
9

ccc,

02/07/2008 10:24:44
#7.

The simple fact is high prices are good for only a small number of people. Falling prices are good news for many more. Just deal with it.

Us lot who have been insulted and looked down upon because we are 'just renting' or staying 'back at home with the parents' are now the new 'property winners'.

:)

We have waited long enough. If you feel any disdain towards us for being sensible then you should be ashamed of yourself. If everyone had been sensible in the first place none of this would ever have happened. Not my fault.

This whole boom and bust has been a disaster for this country. Everyone has thought they were getting richer, when in fact most were just getting into massive debt.

If you are going to be one of those losing out due to this then I do feel sympathy. However you make your choices in life, you deal with them.
10

James.com,

02/07/2008 10:51:46
All the "experts" want you to buy. The long term trend is average earnings/average house price = 31/2-4 times. I make them 30% over valued right now
11

Jock MacTamson 2,

Highlands 02/07/2008 10:58:22

A welcome adjustment to the stupidity of the last 5 years. The sky is not falling down and prices have not started falling yet. Market confidence has fallen and the people who own houses in London and purchased in the last 3 years should be very worried.

If you purchased in the last 12 months you may have to sit tight for 24 months anyone else will still be well above purchase price due to 10% growth per annum over last 36 months.
12

robbee,

02/07/2008 11:00:12
Did anyone just here a CRASHING noise?
13

Liz,

Edinburgh 02/07/2008 11:08:31
#7
You are forgetting the thousands of people who have been able to afford their own homes and have been forced into renting generally poor accomodation from money grabbing BTL'ers. Many people I know have been forced to move several times as thier landlords have decided to sell and tenents have little protection when they do. The forthcoming adjustment in prices (some may use the words crash) has been inevitable since the banks gave up bothering checking up on who they were lending too and sensible salary multiples were ignored. The sensible (I would argue the majority) will be absolutly fine.
14

Ali Shuffle,

Caithness 02/07/2008 11:13:35
Despite the encouraging opening paragraphs suggesting that Scotland is bucking the trend the truth is a little more sobering.

Scotland's market came up from a lower start point at a later date and will return to a lower end point at a later date. Outside of those facts it is a question of timing and we are already seeing the early falls. Comparison now to where the market was one, two or three years ago is really just a case of vested interests not wanting to scare the horses. The relevant statistic is the one showing those falls over the last few months.

Buckle up because the ride down will be bumpy.
15

Alan L Rensie,

Edinburgh 02/07/2008 11:28:08
Eh?

10 "experts" and none is able to point out that the best advice is to wait a year and buy for 20% cheaper.

What makes me sick is that these "experts" KNOW it is going down. But they prefer to try and keep luring innocent members of the public into financial ruin by buying a depreciating asset. They will lie and lie to save their own jobs. Utter scum.
16

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 02/07/2008 12:07:55
It's a housing racket, not a market. Mutual associations became private banks since the mortgagee typically paid twice the cost of the house. This he had to earn. The bank first issues this credit out of nothing! Then anything goes. The more prices were inflated, people took on more debt and CEOs payed themselves monopoly salaries and bonuses.

Dropping prices will not be much help to the first, second or third time buyer as scarcity has been artificially created and money manipulators (not us earners) can outbid as it suits them.
17

Playground Monitor,

Edinburgh 02/07/2008 12:14:49
The Hootsmon's experts are all vested interests - "Good time to buy" your bahookie it is! If you're an FTB, who cares what the lenders are offering? You'd have to be insane to buy now if you don't have to. It'd be interesting to know how many FTBs are actually asking for mortgages at the moment, not many I'd wager.

#7 - For those who have to trade up, if all property falls by 30% then the relative cost of trading up falls - a 30% fall on your own property is more than compensated by a 30% fall in the new (higher priced) property. The only losers from falling prices are those trading down. Most of those will be of an age where they bought 10 or more years ago and the silly paper profits of the last 6 years were just that for them: Silly paper profits.
18

LVT,

02/07/2008 12:59:49
Cannot believe the "expert" advising first-time buyers to buy. Why buy now when they'll pay less next year and can get a 6% return just shoving their deposit in the bank?

Does the expert think that Scottish property will climb 6% this year? Dream on!

Despite this, many FTB's would like to buy, but they can't as nobody will lend them enough money. This is because the houses are TOO EXPENSIVE!

Unfortunately, this will ultimately affect the real economy, people will lose their jobs, shops will close, and there will be a downward spiral until sentiment picks up.

The good news is, if you can hang onto your job, your next property will be more affordable- provided you are not saddled with a massive mortgage already!
19

Martin 2,

Edinburgh 02/07/2008 13:09:02
The big winner from rising prices are banks who earn more interest when you pay your monthly mortgage - simple.
20

Jay Kay,

02/07/2008 13:21:45
#13 Liz, forget the private landlords have you seen some of the Local Authority housing being offered for rent, I worked in a Local Authority for over 20 years and in that time I can safely say I visited hundred of properties, in all that time I can count on one hand the number of houses I would ever consider moving my familly into. Oh and while we are at it why wont Alex Salmond investigate these so called investors and spenders of the tax dollar fo selling of wholesale properties and land owned by the people to the private sector housing associations.

Fife have to be one of the biggest culprits, they take a row of rotten houses with bad tenants and decant them to nice area in order to begin the descecration process. They then hand over the empty housing stock to the lowest bidder, but then the rub, the council have to spend concil tax money on demolition prior to handing over the cleared brown field site to the developer???

This is tantamount to getting rid of its stock through the back door whilst maintaining the same level of tenancy, bringing down the next area through the scum bag tenant who cant pay his or her rent, who are often involved in illegal activity, who then run the neighbourhood into the ground and BINGO, the cooncil proceed to demolish another stretch of housing to be sold to the same agency.

Try telling me there arnt any brown paper bags stuffed with cash flying about there somewhere???

Why cant the councils build more "affordable" housing??
21

Silence of the Yams,

02/07/2008 13:22:32
Interest rates should be brought down immediately to 3.5%. This Mervyn King is a clown prince.
22

easy money,

isle of skye 02/07/2008 13:29:17
Lets get one thing straight - the market in Edinburgh will survive - we're just going to see very little growth for 2 - 3 years and this was always on the cards. Its a good thing in so much as it gets rid of all these amateur BTL & BTF types who wanted a quick buck (and the shameless developers)- hopefully we'll see less of the disastrous developments that now dominate Leith - if you bought new build there recently then you're in trouble im afraid! Also, it gives a chance for the FTB's to get on the ladder. For all you doubters and pessimists out there (seems to be quite afew) i'd say that you've obviously got a vested interest in a downturn but you'll be dissapointed...Edinburgh property in good areas will hold their value...property in lesser areas will slide as the likes of the nervous amatuer BTL landlords bail out....10 years from now a good one bed flat in Edinburgh will cost £200k...get saving your deposits now as this is short term!
23

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

02/07/2008 13:41:56
"people who own houses in London and purchased in the last 3 years should be very worried"

This is a credit bubble, not a housing bubble. After a credit bubble bursts, the prices of the primary asset typically fall to undo two-thirds of the bubble.

It was a 25 year bubble. People who bought in the last 16 years should take defensive measures if they used credit to buy.
24

Liz,

Edinburgh 02/07/2008 13:48:23
#21
And you rational for reducing rates is what exactly?

The BOE remit is to monitor inflation, they did not raise rates when houses were steaming ahead so why should they reduce them now they are falling? (and inflation is rising)

Besides, many of the major lenders have recently been raising their rates despite the BOE not having moved the official one in a number of months now. The banks mortgage rates are no longer directly connected to the BOE rate.
25

ccc,

02/07/2008 14:34:51
#22.

I see you are sticking to the 'everything will be different here' line. Well that may be true but I think the chances are slim to none.

Edinburgh is vastly overpriced = Edinburgh has big falls coming its way. Last 4 quarterly figures for average sales prices from the ESPC are as follows:

228
222
215
210

Call me crazy but I think that looks like falling prices.....

This is a massive bubble and it has burst. There really is nothing else to say.
26

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

02/07/2008 14:54:17
ccc:

The real giveaway that prices are about to fall after a credit bubble is a market phenomenon known as "divergence". Prof Kindleberger in "Manias, Panics and Crashes" notes that this is a marker of the top of a market. It is characterised by a significant fall in trading volumes while prices still rise, albeit at a lower rate. The size of the fall in volumes is a reaonable guide to the forthcoming size of the fall in prices. This is because the primary driver of prices by the end of the boom is the credit available with which to drive up values.

Price falls occur some time afterwards and are usually prolonged. The penultimate phase of the cycle, called "capitulation" sees the last holdouts desperately selling and mirrors the manic behaviour seen at the end of the boom when everyone tries to buy into the profits. The final phase is "revulsion" where market participants swear off credit for life, though credit intermediaries can usually no longer offer credit by this point anyway.

As Kindleberger outlined in the above work, credit bubbles have a recognisable structure which can be used to advantage by those who understand this.

So: do you have the equivalent trading volumes numbers for the above price information?
27

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

02/07/2008 15:51:29
Interesting article from Ireland wondering whether their credit bubble will go the same way as the Japanese one which burst between 1989 and the present (bust still ongoing).

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-mcwilliams/japans-housing-slump-was-scary-and-ours-could-be-too-1425159.html
28

ccc,

02/07/2008 16:00:07
Cheers Fernando,interesting info.

Sales volumes below. (Numbers in brackets are comparable volumes for same period in previous year)

3267(3450)- 5.3% down
3092(3246)- 4.7% down
2510(2979)- 15.7% down
1606(1721)- 6.7% down

Next lot of figures out 10 July. Just go to ESPC home page and to releases. All figures are available there.

So what do the above drops in volumes tell you ? Considering this has all happened during the period when most are still firmly in the 'Edinburgh is different' mindset ?
29

Neil,

Glasgow 02/07/2008 16:41:44
Best estimate is that if government "planning" didn't interfere & technology & the supply & demand system were allowed to work, house prices would be a quarter of what they are.

http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2008/07/house-prices-then-now.html
30

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

02/07/2008 17:33:16
Thanks for the numbers ccc.

OK, so for the four quarters prior to the last one Scotland had year-on-year price rises with falling volumes, indicating the divergence of a market top. That quuarter-on-quarter prices were falling is a confirming signal.

The volume falls aren't high, indicating that for the moment, we're looking at price falls in single digits. One caveat is that at market tops, the structure of sales can change (different proportions if different types of housing) and this can bias average price figures. we need to wait for further data to confirm the trend.

Another caveat is that the market topped in England in October and so at best we only have one quarter's data post top. Some have argued (and I'm sympathetic to the idea) that just as England is 2 to 2.5 years behind the US in this cycle, so Scotland is months behind England.

All we may be able to firmly conclude just now is that we're seeing a top and that we need to look to England and the US to see where we'll be further down the line (because of similarities in our economies and credit structures).

We'll need to keep an eye on new local numbers for trading volumes and absolute increases in housing credit outstanding in order to make more accurate prognostications of future prices here.

All the technical stuff aside though, the folks who say "the more they went up (over 25 years) the more they'll fall" will be the ones proved right eventually. Those places in the boonies which didn't see price rises in the credit bubble will be largely protected from the direct effects of the credit bust.

The sad fact is though that none of us, homeowner or not, will escape the indirect effects.
31

Schot,

02/07/2008 17:48:42
@ CCC

There are seemingly mainstream reports of major new bank failures in the US ? Are these credible in your opinion, and if so, what effect would it have here ?

In my memory when bubbles burst speculators get burned but when there is a genuine crash then it is the poor who get crushed.
32

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

02/07/2008 18:20:53
#31: There's a credible argument that major US banks would be insolvent if it weren't for the Federal Reserve allowing them to swap dodgy mortgage-backed bonds for valuable US Treasury Bonds. The argument runs that the Fed is happy to let the banks raise the mortgage rate well above the prime rate in order to shore up the banks' finances.

The smaller regional banks though are either going under, or being bought out at a large discount. There's also a scramble going on to sell mortgage-backs and related impaired debt at discount in order to get it off the books of the banks.

What's happened up to now is more or less all a result of the collapse of the CDO markets. If the very much larger CDS markets break, and there are real signs of trouble, then what we've got now will look like sweetness and light.

Debt-deflation is never pretty, but on the plus side, it is the cure for the credit bubble.
33

Saoghal Beag,

02/07/2008 18:54:45
falling house prices, obviously a nat based lie. Des Browne says we haven't ever had it so good, labour never lie.
34

easy money,

02/07/2008 20:12:27
ccc - if you're in this for the long run then you've nothing to worry about. The property market goes in cycles and we're hitting the **it end of the stick right now. Forget all the stats and speculation (sounds impressive but means nothing in the long run)...10 years from now a one bed flat in Edinburgh will be circa £200k...
35

Plodjfriss, Hammer of the Numpties,

Edinburgh 02/07/2008 20:58:51
#34 ... and where will the money come from to pay for all these £200,000 one-bedroom flats?
36

easy money,

02/07/2008 21:48:24
#35 probably from alot of people down South who are moving up here....plenty money kicking about Edinburgh...always has been always will be...quality of life comes at a price...this whole thing will blow over and it will become another 1990's type scenario...those in it for the long haul will win out...short termists with depressing views on life will continue to clog our hospital wards...
37

Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 02/07/2008 23:30:25
Great posts. Thanks to all.

Easy money you may well be correct. However, We have been buying property for over twenty five years, and have never seen any cycle quite like this.

Most major western cities have pockets of extreme affluence. That are relatively immune from house price deflation. This time around though. Folks are more leveraged than any time in modern history.

We are looking at beautiful properties in the Palm Springs area, that are half the value of two years ago.Hawaii too has seen major price declines.

Make note of the Nov election, and check out the predicted credit defaults from then till January of 2009.

All the best.

 

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