why are you even writing about what this stupid b**tch thinks about anything ? Is she a scientist, a doctor ? Why is anyone interested in what she thinks ? because she slept with a famous musician ?

Help me with my mythology, was it Romus and Remus who sucked from the udder as twins estranged?

Please Scotsman , no more about Heather. I need to get through the day ( and work ) without hearing about her( and the Spice Girls ) ( and John Reid ).Peace be with you and Heather , she really needs it .

#2~`Romulus and Remus suckled from a she-wolf.

You neglected to report that this demented woman drove up in a huge Mercedez Benz SUV . Large carbon foot print for a one-legged hyprocrit.

#2 Wolves don't have udders, Brian.

...why don't we drink rats' milk?

Well Heather, I guess it is because the supermarkets are all sold out of rat milk.

As Prof Tester said, "...They just don't lactate the same volumes", so presumably the scarce supplies would be expensive too. Not a problem for the likes of you though, eh?

Now be a good girl and don't leave the Merc's engine running whilst spouting guff about environmental issues.

#5 Mr Grump, you neglected to read the final paragraph...

Typical assinine comments from a spouting no-nothing who believes that celebrity, what little she has, is directly related to insight.
She casts aspersions on milk while defending air travel. Let that speak volumes.

Despite the largely puerile comments above, Ms Mills is essentially correct. Production of meat and milk wastes an enormous amount of energy and contributes twice as much to greenhouse gases as travel of all sorts.

The rats' milk thing is to make you think. That's asking a lot for some Scotsman readers.

Romulus and Remus were supposed to have been suckled by a female wolf. Whether you call her milk glands udders or not is probably udderly unimportant.

Well as a love RAT I'm sure she knows all about these animals!!

"Requirements for rats seem to be around 15mg/kg of food. Calcium, Vitamin D and Phosphorus are essential, especially during times of growth, pregnancy and lactation, for the laying down of bone and production of milk. One of the best sources of these minerals in the diet is curly kale. If unavailable this can be substituted with other green leafy veg (such as spring greens, pak choi, broccoli)."

To me, it's absurd that a general purpose animal like humans could have evolved from an ape which is a specialisation for living in forests. This is a weird notion from "Darwinists" , never from C. Darwin himself.

Are we not closer to intelligent and omniverous rodent life? So are we eating enough curly kale -from our own soil! - like the Scots of old who were renowned engineers, scientists, shipbuilders, doctors, warriors etc.

Cod liver oil is good for rats; us too + we need orange juice vitiman C as unlike the rat we don't produce it.

But rat's milk from some stainless steel dairy? -- Somehow, I dinnae think so.

Contemporary Scotland boasts only few pop stars and footballers from our urban wastelands of supermarket pap, junk food, and silly fads.

The native peasant dietary wisdom of our great grandmothers is needed to restore our standing on the planet as is the case with all independent successful nations!

Rats milk - mothers milk to Ms Mills -- Why give space to that woman. She's only of interest because of media space given to her time as a hooker - whose interested for heavens sake?

So according to animal rights group Viva, "meat and dairy animals produce more greenhouse gasses than all the world's transport combined", and James at # 10 assures us that this is essentially correct...

James also tells us that the question about drinking rats' milk is to make us think. (Funny, I thought Heather was actually proposing we DRINK the stuff, and while we are at it, to stop eating meat, dairy products, and fish, but not to go vegan overnight.)

Look, we are not about to solve environmental problems caused by forest depletion (presumably our growing grain instead of trees is the 'root', ahem, of the problem, as opposed to millions of farting cows?) by going vegan!

# 12 Yok, I've got to quote your last paragraph:

"The native peasant dietary wisdom of our great grandmothers is needed to restore our standing on the planet as is the case with all independent successful nations!"

Have you gone completely mad? Do you suppose we'd have more engineers, scientists, shipbuilders, doctors, warriors, pop stars and footballers if we ate more home grown curly kale? Is that what all the independent successful nations are doing?

Heather Who?

Lets suppose we entertain Ms. Mills's idea. How do you suppose to promote a rat's lactation? Well, she will need to deliver a bunch of rats in order for lactation to occur. Now, what do you suppose we do with the little rats, which are produced in a huge number per litter, hmm? As usual, these celebrity types are airheads and give no consideration whatsoever to the things they utter. They run at the mouth and think because they are famous, people will give heed to their sage-like advice. I wish that it might be possible for them to put their advice into action and that they are only ones who get to live out the consequences of their suggestions.

On the other hand, why dont we eat rats, cats and dogs, the chinese do and love it, the frenchies eat horse and frogs, all would save on cattle production.

How much CO2 would rat farms producing milk produce? Would the milking of the rats have to be done by hand? What would be the production costs for a pint of rat's milk?
Does this woman really believe what she is saying or is she being paid to say it? Perhaps she just needs her pic in the newspapers again.

Hypocritical moronic Mills.

"However, Mills's environmental message did not extend to her mode of transport. Rather than the hybrid cars favoured by eco-conscious celebrities, she arrived in a Mercedes 4x4 and conducted a series of interviews inside while the engine was running."

A case of do as I say,not as I do?

When is she to appear on the Simpsons as a rat milker gang master? Sounds like she believes every daft thing she is told much like most other people, problems are rarely solved as simply as popping down to the bins to catch a rat to squeeze onto the cornflakes in the morning. The problem with all this stuff is we don't live a hunter gatherer existence any more and most people really would rather be dead than have to live like that again so engineers will have to engineer us out of this hole and they will. So let's enjoy the laughs while we can, we'll look back on these times as hilarious, unless you happen to be down for being machetted today, or shot, or blown up but let's not bother about these people let's talk about rat's milk. Maybe we should only be left alone with a rat that has breast fed us at least five times. Wasn't there a rule from Egypt about that recently?

"drive to promote a vegan lifestyle with a call to start drinking rats', cats' and dogs' milk"

But if you were drinking any animal's milk, you wouldn't be vegan surely.

Been veggie for 17 years, but can't give up coo, it just tastes so nice. So settle for only drinking organic coo.

we are more intrested in her life on the game, if we do not eat cows pigs sheep,etc they will overrun us,the australians have learned this the hard way as skippy and his pals run amok

She's so empty headed that she doesn't see the gross irony of posing in front of a diesel truck that wil shortly be driving round and round aimlessly promoting a message that no-one will be listening to.

As has been noted before, she's not averse to using the media when SHE wants to ...

If she can't see the fool she's making of herself, then she has no message for anybody.

Rat's milk indeed! I don't think we give a rat's ar*e, do we??

Wanderer from far off, as a happy swamp dweller, please don't wish that on me!

Another article from the Ministry of Propaganda.
Just to keep the AGW con ticking over in the background.You will NOT be allowed to forget.

Well it just goes to show how business like Viva is. Who in there right mind would pick this woman to front up a campaign after the bad publicity that she has brought against herself. She is that much of liar, I would bet she had a full english before she went to speakers corner yesterday!

I think this idiotic woman should give us all a demonstration of her milking a rat. Then for an encore, she could milk a cat and a dog too.

Why doesn't she want people to eat rats as well. I'm sure if a vegan can drink animal milk, she can surely eat them.

Incidentally, I always though all coos were organic. If not, then there's a severe shortage of bionic coos, otherwise known as bócoos, on Rockall.

As I read that the question I asked myself was, "Is it spelled 'Goldigger' or 'Golddigger?'

She's done it !!!!!!! back where she belongs.....PAGE 3 !!!!!

Is it possible to just grab a lactating cat out of the fridge and start to suck away? Boy, would that taste fresh!

Will Heather Mills be giving the poor starving children of Africa the millions, she is expecting from Sir Paul McCartney ?.

#1

A good question Jock and the answer is because 'journalists' or moronic hacks are more stupid than she is!!

ERRR CAUSE THEIR A BEGGAR TO CATCH,MILK AND YOU ONLY GET A WEE BIT.

SHE TURNS UP IN A 4X4 Merc and we are expected to listen to her patronising self publicity? Her brains as hollow as her legs......

WE COULD USE HER LEGS THOUGH TO FIRE A POWER STATION!

Get a life peg-leg. We are not interested in the rantings of a gold digger sitting in her not so eco-friendly suv.

Heathers mulk in ma sago

Heres one for all the males who have to put up with their burds cat. Go home tonight and get caught suckling its teets and see what happens?

Have you gone completely mad?

At heart, no. Diet and nutrition could be the most important thing you've never learned. It should be the core element of secondary level education for which the leaving age should be ~ 16 + or - , since very little else seems to learned by most youth despite the money taxpayers spend on it or get fleeced by the private sector who don't do it any better.

So I suggest civilised unhurried school dinners with linen tablecloths, waitress service, respect and politeness for a nutritious plat du jour previously explained and discussed in the class room. Pupils could also get involved in the preparation and cooking of it: not as a gang or mob but as individuals charged with responsibility.

On the western seaboard people regularly lived to near 100 (unless calamity struck) despite their arduous life and the wet climate because they eked it from the land and sea about them. Then roads were put in bringing white bread, sugar, tins etc and all manner of urban diseases appeared. My great-granny was a peasant fae County Cork and lived to age 96 in darkest Fife and its bone-chilling haars.

Successful Countries.

Exhibit F: Finland -- changing lifestyles made their traditional diets too fatty and salty so their government (which was only your neighbour doon the road you might meet in a sauna) were serious about getting them to eat more berries and fresh stuff and it worked.

Japan: food is considered very seriously. Would anyone have worked on the new Osaka airport if they didn't get a proper lunch whether neatly packed, or in the canteen? No way.

Rats would be on ~ 20% life expectancy if they were fed supermarket food of refined carbos, sugar, salt and e - numbers. These intelligent omnivores are telling us something important. No?

Liquid milk consumption in Scotland has increased by four percent in recent years as real experts recognise the role that milk and dairy products play in a balanced diet. Ms Mills has probably helped to accelerate that trend - thank you Viva.

These veggies still have not told us how they are going to feed the world on a vegetarian diet. There is already a world grain shortage as seen by the doubling of price over the last few months.
Most farms in Scotland can only grow grass, and you need four stomachs to get anything nutritious from that!

30 - you're spot on. I reckon if we all got Mills to keep her mouth closed then the world's CO2 emissions would collapse dramatically......

It's actually a bit Brass Eye - is Chris Morris in the background anywhere milking a dog??

Heather Mills said, "that dairy production had a huge effect by producing greenhouse gases.

Mills said: "When [Viva] told me it was 18 per cent - that's more than all global transport - I was in shock."

Greenhouse gas emissions are as follows, (given as percentages of the total, in terms of CO2 equivalents):

for all agriculture 13.5%
for all transport 13.1%

(Source recent IPCC Report ay4_spr_spm.pdf fig.SPM 3)

The impacts of dairy farming on the environment are real, but Viva do themselves no favours by supporting their claims with false information.

Have you ever tryed to catch a rat and MILK IT???????????

She's totally lost it!!!
What's the bets Macca gets sole custody of the bairn!!!

Couldn't stop myself ... I hope Shirley Bassey will forgive me vandalising her rendition of "Goldfinger"!

Gold-digger
She's the one, the one with just one pin
And she's a pain
Such a gold-digger
Publicising drinking rat's milk and meat
On her own two ... one feet

Golden words she will pour in your ear
But her lies can't disguise what you fear
Vegans speak with odious greenhouse gasses
Produced from their ass*s

Like Miss Gold-digger
What a girl, beware of her wooden leg
She eats no eggs

No plant-life is safe, that's what Vegans eat
No cow and no hen and no fish and no meat
Her dishes are pulses and legumes and beans
No wonder she's got ... no freen's!

She's a gold-digger
She wants to howk millions off Sir Paul
She wants it all ...
She loves only gold
No wonder she's cold
She loves soya cuts
And she's just plain nuts
Really nuts
Totally nuts!!!

She may have a point. I think we should all begin using bull sharks' milk - just as long as she's the one who milks them.

1)brian mcc

Indeed.. Who does she think Romus and Remus sucking from the tits of the motherwolf!

It's unfortunate that Heather made two remarks which obscured some important information that is not well known by the public. 1) The first unfortunate remark was the one about rat's milk -- which I believe to have been joke; and 2) the second remark which diluted the impact of her message was her stating that Viva gave her the statistics on the effect of the livestock industry on global warming.

In fact, the statistics Viva provided Ms. Mills come from a United Nations FAO report issued by the livestock group in November 2006 called "Livestock's Long Shadow." In this report, the livestock group of the FAO made the uneasy (and I say uneasy because I don't think they wanted to make this conclusion) conclusion that the overall value chain involved in the production and delivery of meat and dairy contributes 18% of greenhouse gases, more than all world transportation.

In fact, the UN report recommends that addressing the damaging effects of the livestock industry is so important, that it should be one of the top 2 - 3 policy issues of all governments worldwide. http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html

Today, we see global governments focusing on reducing emissions in industry and transportation, but, apart from the UK, not drawing any coorelation between eating meat and dairy and climate change.

And so while it it true that Heather Mills is no scientist, the people who put out the report and the people who provided information for the report 1) are scientists and 2) by the nature of the fact that they are part of the livestock group, were reluctant to make such conclusions.

It is unfortunate that the press focused on Ms. Mills remarks about rat's milk and attributed the source of the statistics to a vegetarian group rather than the United Nations.

It's ironic that a former porn actress is lecturing us about chomping on meat!

Jakers!

And I thought Sun readers were a bit psycologically challenged

I agree with the curly Kale man above - more porridge, green veg and perhaps some omega 3 DHA and EPA from algae will help restore those famous Scottish braincells to their former deductive, thinking glory

First, listen to the message, not the messenger.
Second, the only reason cows give milk is because they are impregnated. Most calves are taken away from the mother. Many of them are killed. The milk is for the supermarket, not her baby.

Huge amounts of money are made by the dairy industry. They have brainwashed people to think they need 'mothers milk' even if it's the mother of another species! One person said to me "But what will my children drink if not milk?" How about water!

The gold-digger speaks. She needs to crawl back under the rock she come from. Rats indeed! I bet she won't be drinking rat milk anytime soon while driving around in her big SUV. She isn't even good as a hooker anymore.

what kind of milk did she give her child?

oh jee whiz we should pray for this poor soul

Amputee porn? I never knew she did this. Presumably she made this before the accident?

Good idea heather,
Start up your own rat dairy farm.
Have you thought about contacting the Chancellor Alister Darling for financing this?
He has plenty of tax payers money to invest in good schemes like this.

# 59. You must not be a parent. At least I hope not!
Are you not aware infants and children need milk, considered one o natures perfect foods? A veggie diet would not benefit at all.

I must agree, Mills is an idiot and a gold digger

56. qyessence

Thanks for that informed comment. Can you shed any light on the apparent discrepancy between the FAO and IPCC figures I gave above (#49). I note that you state that the 18% figure is for meat and dairy, whereas Viva are reporting it as 18% from just dairy. I suspect the answer may be concerning an over estimation of the climate sensitivity of methane by the FAO.

Yok, in your post (No. 12) you say:

"To me, it's absurd that a general purpose animal like humans could have evolved from an ape which is a specialisation for living in forests. This is a weird notion from "Darwinists" , never from C. Darwin himself."

Give me one logical (i.e evolutionary) reason why a general purpose animal could not evolve from a specialist animal?? happens all the time and vice versa.

As for rats milk, I would think that would be much less efficient to produce than cows milk, but if heather gets up to do the milking every day and they were farmed properly (hygienically) I would love to try it.

Ms Mills has achieved what she set out to do - attract a lot of publicity for the vegan cause. Evidence? Just look at the posts above. I would imagine that she would be having a good laugh just now (if she had ever looked at a copy of this paper).

#53- I thought this was slightly funny when I read it, but you simply put it over the top. As I am typing, the tears are rolling down my cheeks!
Thank goodness she belongs to you not the US..we have enough of the crazies here!

15. S'me
Heather Who?

My feelings exactly !
Why give her credibility ?

There is nothing like a bit of udder nonsense to rattle the cages.

Aberdeen Dan (71): "As for rats milk, I would think that would be much less efficient to produce than cows milk, but if heather gets up to do the milking . . ."

Surely Heather should have suggested human milk as the substitution, not rat or dog. It would be simple to provide lactation hormones to, say, unemployed and poor females, such as Heather Mills after she has paid her legal bills. We could arrange collection via the supermarkets: women would go to Tescos (say), connect themselves to a milking machine in return for a store voucher per cc of milk provided, and the store would then treat the milk before bottling.

a 24 carat bamstik, end of story.

I cant believe it, 75 comments and not a single one in support of Long John Mills!

At last a subject that has united the Scotsman posters as well as the rest of the UK. We could build a form of Unionist Nationalism on the back of the nations hatred of her, rebuild the growing English / Scottish divide, cut through the increasing bigotry that goes with it and give us our first opportunity to really burn some effigies since Guy Fawkes.

#53. Another triumph, BW. You get right to the nub of it, don't you. Had me singing it out loud too! Must've scared all the rats for about 20 miles around! No milk for ratlings today, methinks!

D"rats" I only recently got shot of a 160lb rat who milked me of all my savings. NOW if only I had been aware of Heathers theory I would have kept him around and milked him ,sold the RATS milk and regained my money.

I don't really know much about the Heather Mills in question, BUT' she may have a point about our use off cow milk in particular. Early post war I was employed replacing Creamery concrete floors with a new from of acid resisting tile as the milk when spilt actually caused rapid deterioration too concrete floors.
Whether this makes any sense. I wouldn't debate, but I can assure this was a definite fact!
So there may be some substance in the claims of this female!

Read Christopher Horner's "Politically Incorrect Guide To Global Warming". The whole thing is a myth.
Heather Mills is nutz and I feel for Sir Paul and his daughter.
He so loved his late wife Linda that he just wanted that kind of relationship again. Sadly he needs to realize that is over and move on.
God gave us the Cow for the very purpose of eating the meat drinking the milk and using the hide. Are we to say God is wrong?
Viva/Peta are trying to do good but they are losing the battle with me.
I love meat and will not go Vegan!!! But I do love veggies.
I won't force red meat down your throat please don't force rat's milk down mine.

I have the upmost respect for Heather Mills, she is a dynamic woman who has done very well for herself.

But Rat milk is probably not as good as cows milk..So as far as her comments regarding that are concerned, lets can it.

wattie>x 1 (82): "Early post war I was employed replacing Creamery concrete floors with a new from of acid resisting tile as the milk when spilt actually caused rapid deterioration too concrete floors."

Any acid will damage concrete. Even a relatively mild one like lactic acid will disintegrate concrete slowly. Thus sour milk, fruit juices and beer (which also contains lactic acid) will all attack untreated concrete over time.

How can you NOT see the truth????

The plan is to bring Scotland back to full employment by being the fore-runners in the production of rat milking machines. Parents will be able to hire out their kids in the factories because their wee hands are needed to attach the itty bitty suction cups to the itty bitty tubes. Before long, everyone will prosper on rats' milk and have strange, slanting yellow teeth.

But no! Can it be true? Scotland has been tricked. Heather Mills and Viva will come back to denounce the CRUELTY of battery rat milking. All the wee furry creatures squashed in cages like um.. battery hens. Their crippled little legs all bunched up, so they can't scurry through primary schools, running free and biting the ankles of small children. Instead, condemned to a life of teat tweaking in a tiny cage, dripping milk on the rats below them. Except for the rats on the bottom, who get very fat from drinking everyone else's milk.

Then George Bush, who will soon announce the abolition of presidential elections in the US, simply because he can't figure out yet another way to screw an election in his favor (and besides, the monarchy isn't that bad is it) will attain the official title, King of America and Some Other Places that aren't America Yet. Heather Mills will take her leg off for him, convincing King George that she is a messenger from God with special powers. He will promptly declare Scotland a hotbed of WMD manufacturing and terrorist training. About a million people will tell him otherwise, but sadly when he bombs the life out of Scotland, they bite the dust along with everyone else. He builds a new castle in Scotland, declares it his ancestral home, spends $30 trillion dollars on a monument to the bravery of the now extinct Scots, and turns what was Scotland into a Texas beef ranch.

The rats run free and all become politicians in London, but nobody actually notices the difference.

This is all as clear as day to a

Jings at least we now know why heather is barking at the moon.

this is just barking mad eco-fascism so removed from reality it does not deserve print inches.

Do you think that the dinasour's farts caused the last global warming?

Number 89

Thats it. Can you please verify this with the British Government. They are most anxiouse to find out what caused Global Warming.. It could be cooled down with Rats Milk.

Well thats enough laughing for today, must go and get a cup of tea Minus Rats Milk.and go on to another comment page

Most of these comments are as asinine as Ms.Mills.

She must be suffering the loss of brain cells due to her diet.

""However, Mills's environmental message did not extend to her mode of transport. Rather than the hybrid cars favoured by eco-conscious celebrities, she arrived in a Mercedes 4x4 and conducted a series of interviews inside while the engine was running.""

hahahahaha!

Oh, that was a good one, great punchline! I knew it was coming when the article started using Simpsons episodes in relation to her.

Rats milk - okay Heather, why don't you show us how to? (I believe she was probably querying why we drink the milk from one animal and not another - but hey, its Heather Mills, who knows what goes on in that head of hers.)

Full of wee cars, and they are all crashing.

Wanda # 83

God Who?? Just because something is a tradition it doesn't make it right.

And as for all the highly unpleasant, derogatory and discriminatory remarks about Ms Mills on the basis of her sex and disability that just says tons about the prevalence of colonial/patriarchical world views on this rant-board.

# 56 - yes, I doubt very much that the UN is lying about the contribution of cows and animal husbandry, transport and feed contributes to global warming - though perhaps Ms Mills and Viva could have been clearer about this. But then maybe she was and it was just the usual irresponsibility of journalists trivialising a very serious issue, which perhaps we all do need to think about: do we all need to eat so much meat or drink so much cows milk? I don't think HM was planning on banning it, just asking people to think about the issue. And the rat milk thing was obviously a joke - she could have said goats or sheep but the whole issue would have gone unreported.

The focus on HM keeping her big car running while being interviewed is another trivialisation but probably reflects her need to know she can escape from the beastly throng of paparazzi after speaking - and not be killed by them like that other celebrity 'air-head' was in Paris.

After you, Heather.

#41

-- Give me one logical (i.e evolutionary) reason why a general purpose animal could not evolve from a specialist animal?

happens all the time and vice versa.

No it doesn't. Living in a jungle requires the same specialiation as the Innuit Eskimos.

There is no vice versa. Specialation depends on the continuation of the surrounding environment that you understand. That pygmies know so well.

Unlike the monkeys that we call politicians.

Like Kornad Lorenz, I study our local jackdaws and learn alot.

For their behaviour is importantly LEARNED, not instinctive. For they are general purpose birds, that when when you release your hand-reared brood , know how to fly and will circle up, but havn't leaned to fly down because no older bird has told them this technique.

Universe has no size. Electons are high frequency "particles" and galaxies are low frequency events.

Quarks - as is life - are ultra high frequency and now you're talking of gyroscopic synchronisation as a jackdaw plummets by my window.

#67

LOL!! disgusting is what this is...would she drink milk from a cat a rat or a dog? I doubt it!

Another celebrity endorsement full of "rat crap"!

Now she has completly lost the plot, no wonder Sir Paul gave her the heave Ho, she is a complete lunatic, she is knitting with only one needle.

Correct me if I'm wrong but vegans wouldn't drink rats or cats milk either, oh, that was the joke, ok. Very funny.

At first I thought they must be mad to use HM to publicise this but actually it seems to have worked quite well.

Still, I like my milk and red meat and my fast car, and a little bit of global warming doesn't seem that bad an idea when you live in Scotland.

A pity that an issue of actual worth has probably had more damage done to it than good by the employment of Heather Mills. Cow milk and meat are luxeries as opposed to necessities and the message could have simply been to think about our excessive over-consumption. But of course the focus is actually on Heather Mills' outrageous hypocrisy.

But what would I know, I was looking for the football stories.

SamBDeakins, Richmond, KY USA / 1:22pm 20 Nov 2007 - "Shud we eat rat shit as well?"

We probably do.

103,

It is worth noting that in FDA regs there is an ACCEPTABLE amounnt of rat sh*** permitted in foodstuffs, .............

When Fat Tony was in charge of providing the milk to Springfield Elementary ... the door opens, and there are thousands of rats being milked with tiny little milking machines.

If I remember correctly, somebody said something to the effect of, "Well, it's STILL milk!"

I said "Ewww" then, and I'm saying it now, too.

Vegans cannot be so,

Thier veggies kill so much, ........ ploughing up the fields ...... Wee coorin timrous beastie ........ the transport, kills animals on the road, there are so many "hidden" fats animal based throughout the "vegan" world.

Wool no no leather no no cotton ..... more animal environments destroyed. .......... medicines EVERY vegan must not accept any help from a "normal" A&E accept no drugs .......... they can chew on Willow bark as long as it does not make a single spider or bug homeless ......... no cars AT ALL walk only ,............. carefully brushing aside any bugs, no cockroach extermination or mouse relocation,

all in all unless the vegans go live in a jungle and eat berries and fruits (leaving the birds and animals first pick and no storage for tomorrow ie only eat enough for today ...... then they are hypocrits ............. being a multi millionaire vegan is pure dead nonsense

The plethora of UN statisticts defies my understanding. What about our great scottish BOGS that produce plenty of methane that our planet has handled since time immorial Should you drain them and cultivate, even more methane is produced.

People have cattle because they're useful to them. There are far too many sheep in Scotland as ecologial strip-mining from the Shetlands to Dumfries. Working local and useful cattle breeds like Galloways and Highlanders put fertility back into the land. + the Aberdeen Angus which is very good on more lowland grassland.

I was with the local stockman last week and you might be horrified about the number of healthy animals burried in pits, from Shetland ponies to little blackface lambs. Over this last decade.

Scottish farmers get your act together. Be Indpendent of the NFU and DEFRA. No. For they are looking for "compensation" and subsidy.

What can you do with died in the wool Tories that think they know what they are doing? Visit Ireland? New Zealand? Learn anything? No. Because, they were taught to believe this pish in agric. college or Oxbrodge that they knew what they were doing and would make alot of money from it.

Wake up!

Scottish independence is the only future for farmers.

I got the loan of quad bike from our local landowner during a difficult lambing in mud and blizzard.

He's a good guy. But it's no way to do agriculture.

Man, I thought people in the the UK were more undestanding and compassionate than us "bloody" Americans. You people are worse than us Americans as far as compassion goes. Heather cares about animals and is trying to save the planet from climate change by encouraging people to go one day without ingesting meat or dairy, which is a cruel industry, cruel not only to animals but also to humans, as you guys really believe them when they tell you "milk does the body good." We have so many fat kids here in America because families believe that BS. So, go on believing what you believe but stop slinging mud at Heather. She's not a pig...she's trying to save pigs from being hung upside down to have their throats cut, as the blood pours through your veins and into your hearts. Guess UK really stands for "UnKind" :(

Man, I thought people in the the UK were more undestanding and compassionate than us "bloody" Americans. You people are worse than us Americans as far as compassion goes. Heather cares about animals and is trying to save the planet from climate change by encouraging people to go one day without ingesting meat or dairy, which is a cruel industry, cruel not only to animals but also to humans, as you guys really believe them when they tell you "milk does the body good." We have so many fat kids here in America because families believe that BS. So, go on believing what you believe but stop slinging mud at Heather. She's not a pig...she's trying to save pigs from being hung upside down to have their throats cut, as the blood pours through your veins and into your hearts. Guess UK really stands for "UnKind" :(

Veggie scum, its more health to eat a balanced diet which includes meat, have you ever met a veggie who was also not an argumentitive, self imposing i am wright you are wrong idiot..thought not.

Do Viva really believe that mental case Mills is a good spokesperson?

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Now if Heather was to use her vast millions to track down the scum who did what is shown below I would personally switch on the same machine and watch the guilty be drawn into it.

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Heather Mills never visited an area west of me known as Louisiana where they take large swamp rats called Nutria and make sausage out of them.

as far as I am aware, vegans do not eat anything that is produced by animals, and milk, of any sort is made by an animal, so Ms Mills is contradicting herself by saying that we should all become vegans and drink rats milk!
Another point how exactly do you milk a rat in the first place?!

Again, all comments on the "story" about the conference which says parents are now afraid to give their children healthy and essential freedom for fear of being pilloried like the McCanns have been withdrawn.

This form of censorship is unhealthy and sinister. The fact is, the McCanns left their children - all under five - on their own in a flat which was not their home in a country whose language they did not speak.

Is the McCann legal/media machine now censoring the extent to which The Scotsman may reflect the views of its readers? It is my firm view that childrens' welfare, including freedom to play, should be paramount in any family. Not the freedom of adults to play in Portuguese Tapas Bars.

And that discussion is much more important than one about rats' milk.

117 i agree 100%

This fear ofthe media is very very bad, ............... I think the Scotsman remove dthe comment scaus etheir lawyers got the scares at the way the British public are not supportive of the way the parents were negligent

Hypocrite,she used to eat beetle meat.

119 that is the best one today ........... on the funny side not serious though ......... :-)

Forget drinking rat or dog milk. Shut off the car and drive something eco-friendly if you want to make a positive contribution to reducing pollution.

I already knew she was a can or two short of a six-pack, but this makes me wonder if all she has is the plastic thing which holds the cans together. Richard Tester is right. Dogs, cats, rats, and whatever other small mammals she wants to go on about don't lactate enough to produce enough milk for human beings, and the nutritional content of milk from carnivores and rodents isn't going to meet the needs of humans, which are omnivores. Of course, the milk of herbivores, like cows, goats, and sheep, isn't geared for omnivores, either, and humans are the only ones who drink milk their entire lives. If she wants to promote an eco-friendly milk that will be healthy for humans and meet our nutritional needs, promote drinking breast milk.

#68--Yes, children and infants need milk. HUMAN milk, not cow's milk. As long as the mother is eating a balanced, healthy diet, which is entirely possible with a vegetarian diet, the child will receive the nutrients it needs.

Let her stick to her own loony diet and drink milk from rats, lice or the Loch Ness Monster. Everyone to their own, but let her keep her big mouth shut about what others should do.

122 she is a vegan ........... not a vegetarian ........ both of course impossible

i have extracted 4ml of rats milk from 7 rodents i have just killed. any volunteers to hold her down while i make sure she drinks every drop?

until humans are able to digest grass, ruminants will have a place to turn grass into meat or milk.
Remember that grass is grown primarily where cereals will not.

At the time of their engagement or marriage Paul McC stated that the spirit of Linda was blessing (or similar) the marriage. Perhaps Heather Mills was actually a punishment sent by Linda for any bad times Paul might have inflicted on his first wife, if he did. But surely Heather Mills should be judged innocent before damned. Maybe she really is going to donate the money she gets from Paul to her charities. Saint Heather.

This whole pathetic article only begs one question:

Paul, what the f*** were you thinking?

110 - Veganstar - is it only in the UK that abattoirs exist?

85# Appreciate your comment as I really knew very little about the technical side of acid etc. and still dont.

It is so long ago since that was job my then and maybe we didn't know as much as we should have.
Any way thanks for info!

Heather Mills is a pain in the backside. I have no time for her whatsoever. She is a useless carbuncle on the arse of humanity.

But.....
If you want to question why people eat meat and drink cows milk, it is indeed a relevant question to ask - why drink cows milk?, why not cat's milk?, why not rat's milk?

Nowhere is she actually suggesting that we should drink rat's milk!!

Ignorant journalists pick on certain phrases just to create a story, and a headline. Equally ignorant readers lap it up!

Being of Mills stock on my paternal side and McCarthy (sometimes affiliated with McCartney) stock on my maternal side, I have to say I personally don't agree with Ms. Heather. Perhaps she needs a bit of help right now. She might do well with some therapy to help her through the breakup with Sir Paul, soon before some misguided fans start irritating the rat and dog populations.

I haven't seen anything this queer out of the UK since that mentally challenged man killed and ate a corgy in protest. If there is such a thing as PETA in Europe, some of its associates need to address the rudimentary "E" for "ethical" in explicit details to their protestors.

70 Slioch.

The discrepancy you allude to may be because "all agriculture" presumably includes crops as well as livestock.

Livestock do the damage to the environment by producing 18% of all greenhose global gas emmisions - this for meat and dairy. Plants - including crops - obviously redress the balance by absorbing CO2 when they grow. The UNFAO was quite unequivocal about this figure of 18% for livestock production and also estimated global travel as contributing only 8% to greenhouse gas figures.

Another possibility to explain the anomoly is that the IPCC figures were not for all international food production.

#134 Aye, she has.

Yes, let's kill all milk producing animals, cows, sheep, goats etc. that should sort out the environmental issues.

Also what gives Vegans the right to kill defenceless vegetables, just so they can be eaten? carrots and poatatoes and broccali have rights too.

Sound silly? Maybe because human beings weren't designed to eat vegetables alone. Human beings need meat to survive. Just plain fact.

QUESTION...WHY DON'T WE DRINK RAT'S MILK?!
ANSWER ... WHERE WE FIND PEOPLE WITH FINGERS SMALL ENOUGH TO DO THE MILKING??

OOOPS.. IT SHOULD READ, 'WHERE WOULD WE FIND PEOPLE WITH FINGERS SMALL ENOUGH TO DO THE MILKING??'

The article above about Heather Mills is misleading. She did not advocate drinking rats' milk : she was trying to draw attention to the absurdity of humans drinking cows' milk.

Humans are the only species both to drink milk after infancy and to drink the milk of another species. Yet The Scotsman managed to turn her comments around and miss the point of what she was trying to say.

The truth is that the United Nations report Livestock's Long Shadow found meat and dairy production contribute more to global warming than all the world's transport combined. [Think about that folks]

The campaign Mills is supporting tries to draw attention to this report, since the media don't even pay lip service to it when talking about climate change.