both the Kurds & the Turks believe that the US will help them in this fight. The US is trying to empower the Kurd leaders to be able to control a portion of Iraq. A big US oil company already signed an agreement with the Kurd leaders to develop oil and pay the kurds for it and this agreement is against the law of Iraq. and the US has lots of military bases in Turkey, pays the Turk government very handsomely. diplomats will work overtime.

Things are kinda between a rock and a hard hard place. I'd just let the Turks attack if the Kurds can't keep their acts together. Of what loss would that be?

#3

Not only Kurdistan, it would have given Armenia Trabzon as a port on the Black sea. Instead we have christian priests being stabbed to death there by mohammedans.

#1
You are misinformed. The US does not have "lots of military bases in Turkey". Under a very complex agreement, the US has the use of ONE base. That base is Turkish and is controlled and managed by the Turks, the US have no ownership rights whatsoever.
However, you are correct in that diplomats will be burning the midnight oil.

What a mess, I wonder of Nostradamus was right.

#7. Looks like it, Cadgers. The bomb they dropped on Hiroshima was called "Little Boy". I wonder if they'll call the one they drop on the Turks and Kurds, Little Miss Muffet? There'll be no running a-whey from that!!!

Whatever the rights and manifest wrongs of this ugly and enduring conflict, it's more than a little rich for the Bush administration to urge the Turks to show restraint and not to contemplate invasion...Do as I say , not as I do ?

Good point no.3

1. Wally, By The Rivers Of Babylon (USA)

I read that your team stacked the the deck and voted across party lines for Ron Paul last night. I call that cheating.

Turkey deserves to be condemned for its behavior, but there some things to remember:

- The 'Kurds' are not one, unified people.

- The Treaty of Sevres would NOT have 'put in place the state of Kurdistan', only allow 'a referendum at a later date'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_S%C3%A8vres

- Besides, the British would not give up the Kurdish part of Iraq and the French would not give up the Kurdish part of Syria anyway. Spoils of war for the world's premier imperialist powers, old chap.

- The PKK doesn't necessarily represent the Kurds. Any group that contains the words 'Workers Party' is a loony leftist front based on Marxist-Leninism anyway.

They are merely using nationalism as a tool to forward Marxism. That's why it's been historically difficult for them to gain support among free-thinking democracies - as well as their own people, which 'tolerate' them only because of their nationalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Workers_Party

Headline SHOULD read-
Iraq crisis mounts as PKK raid kills 17 Turkish soldiers

The PKK is about as Kurdish and peace-minded as the IRA was British and peace-minded