A handful of muslims decide to put their allegiance to their country above their religion (or they are presumed to have) and then more muslims who put religion above their allegiance to their country
(allergically) decide to kidnap those others and decapitate them on video to show the world.
Now we have even more muslims complaining that their religion is being attacked (for want of better words).
The police are in a no win situation where if they react they are called anti muslim and if they don't they are accused of not doing their job because they are anti muslim.

UH OH! Watch it world, I see another excuse for muslims rioting.

It could be worse. There could be a cartoon, you know......;-)

Use Emegency Powers you have to show these cartoon haters whose in charge
Start arresting those rabid demonstrators
and have a Judge ready to Deport them IMMEDIATELY Just mabye with 500 on a plane to their homeland the rest will get the idea. If the governing body delays in this type of action THEN YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET.

Please note: Community leaders criticised the intense media speculation. Fair comment they have every right to voice their views. As to the Muslim community's resentment, this would only be justified if the police have under taken this with no evidence, or faulty evidence.
#4 & 5 Frodo take it that you are trying to get a rise. Anyway I would point out to you that demonstration is not against the law (Thank God)

What is it with Muslims?

OK, I grant the Media do go to the extreme at times, but then so do ordinary people.

It seems to me the problem is that there is a Muslim element who want to take over our country, by whatever means, impose their will upon us and if we do not cowtow - they would execute us!!

Nice... from a religion or faith that is supposed to be peaceful! and all this whining from Muslims that they are being persecuted. What in God's name do they expect.

IF they want to live in peace and harmony in this country then help the Authorities by doing something about the Muslims that want to commit murder - DO NOT leave it all to us.

Finally to Blair, Cameron and Menzies, the time has come to SLAM the door shut on immigration otherwise Toxteth and Brixton will look like Sunday school parties. Also, get your acts together - find the troublemakers and kick them back to where they came from - and those born here? send them back to their Parents country.

Frodo, ya hobbit! Where do you suppose they should be deported to if they were born in Birmingham?

#4#5 Frodo, is it not time you slipped on your wee gold ring and disappeared?

These are not the noble Muslims Europeans used to respect and befriend. This seems to be the whining schemer scum who do not know any better but kill innocent people in a most cowardly way. These elements have got no self-control whatsoever and have lost any dignity.

#8# TO THE LAND OF THEIR PROGENITOR'S, OF COURSE? couirse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sir/Madam:
Yet another example of how some Muslims sabotage from within, while rest of them sing the usual songs: harassment/persecution just because we are Muslims; the terrorist acts are not proved; we have a right to whine as per law; we have a right to hold demonstrations as per law and lastly to indulge in rioting (of course, not as per law and none will speak on that); some misguided Muslims are misinterpreting a peaceful Islamic religion; we (of course their parents came for a better life, to escape from the chaos, persecution and so on) are born here and so we have as much right as you have and so on!

So for helping, now take the all the craps on earth from your guests!
Regards,

8. Mikey.
How about sending them back to the land of their Fathers???

oh no, here we go with "send them all back whence their fathers came!"
When do we see Charlie going back to the home of Phil the Greek?

#8...#9...Just remember that as your jugular gives way to the knife and it wont be long now.

To # 6 I guess in your panic to subvert my post you accidently FORGOT that it IS against the law to use terroristic, threatening and subversive language. You have picked the WRONG side bubba by
colluding with cretins who should not be in Scotland to begin with. I will explain in another post

# 6 to conclude.......READ THIS...in this same format go to "muslims fear persecuted etc.... and go to post #60 by Tommy and then tell me Iam wrong.

frodo, when you say "format", do you mean "forum"?

frodo, I have read #60 by Tommy.

You are wrong

15. nell from falkirk.

Just out of curiosity, has Charlie gone round blowing people up, ripping thier guts open with a blade?

By that same token has Phil the Greek behaved as badly as any individual who wants to kill you?

Whilst Charlie's not my most favourite Royal you cannot in all seriousness class him, or Phil the Greek, alongside the average Muslim, let alone the Maniacal variety.

#21 : 99.999999% of Muslims haven't "gone round blowing people up or ripping thier (sic) guts open with a blade", as you so delightfully put it.

As far as I'm aware, there ARE no individuals who want to kill me.

What precisely is "an average Muslim?"

And in terms of repatriation, if we are repatriating some foreigners, we've got to repatriate them all!
I'd start with Charlie & Phil the Greek - and it's just a pity Tony isn't foreign!

#22.....being as how we are being so-so
picky nell. thier is spelt their or did you arrive in scotland BEFORE the lesson I before E. as to the forum question you are right As to your ranting 99.999999%
there are (note the correct use of the word there) the authorities have at least 25 in england alone THAT ARE RABID SCUM So I suggest you straighten your Burka grab your koran and waddle of to the gutter and pray.

22. nell from falkirk.

"99.999999% of Muslims haven't "gone round blowing people up or ripping thier (sic) guts open with a blade", as you so delightfully put it." you want to play semantics! it was a 100% Muslim that murdered those people on a bus in London on 7th July, also it was 3 100% Muslims that murdered those people on the Underground trains.

"As far as I'm aware, there ARE no individuals who want to kill me." As far as you are aware! fine, not knowing - I won't argue.

"What precisely is "an average Muslim?"." In the context of these posts - someone who does NOT go round committing bloody murder (bloody is used literally).

"And in terms of repatriation, if we are repatriating some foreigners, we've got to repatriate them all!
I'd start with Charlie & Phil the Greek" I agree with you whole-heartedly!! but let's get our facts straight. I think you will find when Philip married the then Princess Elizabeth he had NO option but to renounce his Greek nationality and take British citizenship! Now, if you are married would you like you husband taken away from you? which is what you are suggesting for the Queen, and Charlie was born in England.

"- and it's just a pity Tony isn't foreign!" I assume you are Scottish and not an expat Englishman?, I am an Englishman and in common with quite a few of my fellow countrymen maintain that Blair, Brown, Darling ARE Foreigners in that they are Scots, so you are more than welcome to take them back - the sooner the better.

And the sooner the Welsh take Prescott back we shall be happier.

23. Frodo the Scot.

I'm not quite sure how to take this, so I shall try and be polite.

"22.....being as how we are being so-so
picky nell. thier is spelt their or did you arrive in scotland BEFORE the lesson I before E." OK/ ONE typo - have your fingers never got in the way of each other? before you pick me up look at some other posts!!!

"as to the forum question you are right As to your ranting 99.999999%". this percentage did NOT emanate from me.

"there are (note the correct use of the word there) the authorities have at least 25 in england alone THAT ARE RABID SCUM So I suggest you straighten your Burka grab your koran and waddle of to the gutter and pray." and who is this comment aimed at?

I get the impression, through quite a few of these posts over the past weeks, that there are quite a few Scots who do not particularly like the English - for whatever reason! Well, I'm sorry - but you have to blame James VI for your situation.

Schmuel #25 I am sorry for any offence towards you. Evidently you did not see My reference to#22 at the beginning of my post. The other party (if you had read)chose to pick on my use of the wrong word I merely replied in kind. And as to your last comment you wouldn't like my answer.

26. Frodo the Scot.

Apologies, I mis-read her and misunderstood you.

As regards my last comment, I think I can guess and it hasn't been helped along by Blair and co giving yourselves and the Welsh Independence and getting away with telling us we have the National Government, which is why they can poke their noses into our (English) business but we cannot reciprocate.

I'm English - you're Scottish, fine by me, I don't have a problem with that.

Cheers.

Muslims get upset about everything these days. When will they learn that they just can't go on using victimisation and discrimination as excuses for their antisocial and sometimes violent behaviour. They use their alleged victim status to gain special treatment from naive multiculturalist liberals and so subvert European democracy. Organisations like the Muslim Council of Great Britain are not truly moderate at all and help to prevent further Muslim integration into Western society. It is time we cut out this cancer from our midst and maybe we should start with fifth columnists like Ken Livingston, whose support for the fundamentalist mega mosque in London shows that he has no respect for his own country or civilisation. Let's fight back against this alliance of Islamic and 'liberal' bigots in the interests of our freedom and civilisation. What is the matter with you Europeans, have you forgotten Theo van Gogh and September 11th? How many more will die before you recognise the enemy within?

The war on Terror is a giant HOAX!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPmDUxWB6w8&mode=relat...=

Yea, Em & the next thing you are going to tell us is that nobody died on 9/11 & that Elvis ios alive & living benith the Mall of the Americas with Jimmy Hoffa. And if you believe all of that them I haver some beautiful Beach front property in Greenland for sale.

#30

Why don't you do a bit of research as I have, unless you wish to remain in complete denial you will learn the truth of the world that surrounds us.

Ignorance is bliss, aint it.

#30

p.s I didn't say nobody died at 9/11 or any of the other comments you made to try and ridicule.

#7 "What is it with Muslims?"

The answer is that, since they were blamed for the events of 11th September 2001, it has become fashonable to be anti-muslim and the vast majority of muslims are getting SICK AND TIRED of it.

Muslims have tried to integrate; look where it has got them. Stop discriminating against them and constantly accusing them and, given time, the rifts CREATED after September 2001 may heal ...

The vast majority of muslims GENUINELY BELIEVE that those responsible for the the events of 11th September 2001 were NOT muslims ... or, if these events were actually carried out by muslims, who was the PAYMASTER?

Who says that there is a small group of Muslims trying to take over the country and impose their will. WHO? Have any members of this group published a manifesto or publically stated their intentions?

When the IRA comitted terrorist attacks in the UK nobody went round blaming Catholics or saying that, to quote #24, the xxx bombers were 100% catholic. There was no discrimination against (for example) Spanish or Italian catholics because of the activities of the IRA (funded by the US). Yet muslims, from Morocco to Indonesia are being blamed for 11th September 2001 and branded terrorists and you are all too stupid to understand why ...

The hundreds killed on a daily basis in Iraq since our illegal invasion are muslims also ... The palestinians opressed by the US supported Jewish state of Israel are muslims ....

#33....S ROBERTS..How dare you speak the way you do. The very fact that you can do/say or rather SPEW your assinine rant is by The grace of a Christian God and The American and British G.I's, who once AGAIN are saving your scrawny A--

And to em...... posts#29 #31 #32
In your own words plus the high caliber of them "Ignorance is bliss".

#34 - AM

In reply:

- More than a third of young Muslims want Sharia law: The number who said they would prefer to live under Sharia law than British law increased from 17% of over-55s to 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds.

Very interesting and actually supports my own point. My statement that Muslims have tried to integrate is supported by the very low figure for over 55's. The higher figure for 16 - 24 year olds is due to the fact that these are the age group who are suffering most from the anti-Islamic feelings and have 'grown up' after 2001. However, I note that only 1000 people were questioned in this survey; a VERY low sample and chosen how? And who were they, of which ethnic descent .... This survey only shows that out of a sample of 1000 persons, of those who were aged 16 - 24 (how many of the 1000 fell into this age group is not stated), 37% expressed a preference to live under Sharia Law .... but they did not express a desire to bring this about by violent means.

- 7/7 bombings 'justified' say a quarter of British Muslims: I will answer you bluntly. I am sorry to be insensitive. In Iraq before we invaded life was stable and secure for the majority of Iraqi's. Yes, they lived under a dictatorship, but they were SAFE to go about their day to day lives. Now, they suffer worse, much worse, atrocities than 7/7 on a DAILY basis. Perhaps those who stated that the 7/7 bombings were 'justified' thought that the British people should be given a taste, just a very small taste, of what Muslims in Iraq have to endure on a DAILY basis in order for them to reflect on the actions of their government.

Many Muslims have publicly stated their intentions:
Please. How could this REALISTICALLY be brought about? No political party advocating a fundamentalist Muslim state has any chance of winning a general election. No coup attempt could be successful or sustained without the co-operation of the armed forces of the United Kingdom which it would not

37 cont ...

If you were to conduct a survey of Catholics and ask them how many would like to live under laws based on strict Catholic teaching, I wonder how many would be in favour?

And what on earth has lexpressing a desire to live under Sharia law got to do with overthrowing democracy?

AM You ask what my point is. My point is that we, as a society, seem determined to be against the Muslim religion and Muslims in general, which is very wrong. Muslims are only reacting to this as would any group of people treated in this way.

Sir/Madam:

Very interesting comments from many Muslims, some posing as somebody (non-Muslims) else and some pure rebels!

In UK, you are watching the fun with 2.5 percent of Muslims. They came for better life!

In India, 95 percent of Muslims voted for Pakistan and stayed back in India! Pakistan cleaned Hindus and Sikhs! Naive leaders of India left those whose heart was/is with Pakistan in India. Their percentage is 13.5 percent now.

In India, you have same excuses, same conspiracy theories while doing pure subversion and terrorist activities. Of course, some can get asylum in UK giving the excuse that Muslims are persecuted in India.

In UK, you are just getting a small sample and dose If you permit the cancer (everyone at fault except themselves) to grow longer, you will have full scare scenario (only Londonistan now, many in future) noticed in India!
Regards,

People love to have a devil. Witches, communists.... This is the new one.

#36

Clearly you failed to detect the fact that I was referring to people like #30 and yourself who are ignorant. You buy the lie, no questions asked, you refuse to research the truth, what you percieve to be the truth is a lie.

#20--Nell--"Frodo, i have read #60 by Tommy" "you are wrong"...........
>>re-#60--tommy...."can a good muslim be an American?" "this question was sent to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20/yrs"....his reply:
<Theologically-no. because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
<Religiously-no. because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam(Quran2:256).
<Scripturally-no. because his allegiance is to the 5 pillars of Islam & the Quran(Koran).
<Geographically-no. because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer 5/times a day.
<Socially-no. because he must submit to the Mullah(spiritual leaders)who teach annihilation of Israel,
destruction of America, the great satan.
<Domestically-no. because he is instructed to marry 4/women & beat & scourge his wife when she disobeys him(Quran4:34).
<Intellectually-no. because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principals & he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
<Philosophically-no. because Islam, Mohammad & the Quran do not allow, freedom of religion & expression. Democracy & Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim gov't is either dictatorial or autocratic.
<Spiritually-no. because when we declare "one nation under God", the Christian God is loving & kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

....please indicate which of these are NOT true........

#42.....Forgive Nell she never explained she was of the "tiny-brained "people

Dear Sandy

I am not quite sure if you are a christian housewife from middle America, brainwashed by the republican neo-cons, a Jewess or what .... but really some of your comments display an ignorance which defies belief.

Muslims DO NOT worship a 'moon god'. They worship the SAME God as christians and jews.

No Muslim would refer to God as the 'heavenly father' as to use the term 'father' would imply the existanace of a son, which Muslims, exactly like Jews, do not accept.

Muslims, the same as Jews, accept the Old Tesiment of the bible. The problem is with the new testiment and the exact status of Jesus, son or prophet.

Very few Muslims these days actually marry 4 wives. As for beating their wives, I recall that until not so long ago hitting ones wife with a stick was perfectly legal in the United States!

You say that no religion other than Islam is accepted by Allah. This make ssense to me. Do the not all the various Christian faiths and the Jewish faiths claim to be the 'true' faith?

There is nothing anti-American contained in the 5 pillars of Islam. Do you actually know what they are?