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General Pervez Musharraf, your best efforts are to be applauded, but they will be in vain. Any country, anywhere in this world, that is run according to a rigid set of religious precepts is doomed to eternal backwardness.
Lunatics that espouse religion as the driving force of their perception of how their narrow view of the world should be run everywhere are a danger to humanity at large.
Muslims, or the malign forces that operate in the name of Islam, have made their pernicious mark on the world outside of their evil, blinkered, intolerant and eternally impoverished medieval existence. They will fail. They always have and they always will. The rest of the civilized world will see to that.
Angus, you hit the nail right on the head. You speak the words I am not so brilliantly capable of compiling to discribe the pathetic and desolate existance that muslims all over the world experience. Cheers to you and lets end the madness!
End the childhood moleltation that is the muslim brainwashing
#2. indy, USIt's a mighty big ask, but now more than ever it is time for the non-Islamic world to get its thick head together and put an end to this pestilence.
Action now or suffer the future consequences. WTC 1993 in NYC was a wake-up call and your authorities failed you miserably. (I know that area well.)
9/11 was the time that proper action should have been taken taken against the real filth, and it wasn't. Iraq was and is a total lie and failure. Come on America - show the way. Islamist killer scum must be eradicated from the face of our earth.
#1: Angus Lindsay: Very nicely said and I agree, they will fail but, unfortunately, they will do an incredible amount of damage before the western world wakes up.
#5.Yours is redolent of the sickness that afflicts narrow Islamic mindsets. Criticise political parties by all means, but face reality. Islamism is a terminal illness and has NO place in western - or eastern - society. It is an evil, vicious-minded pariah philosophy.
Many living sustenance manifest power after their death, generating life
When humanity dies it reproduces nothing, it only affirm that death is sure
7. Azarias, Nevada ------------------------------------------------------Wrong dude ,
When a homo Sapien dies , it produces enery through body decay . Which transfers energy from one source to another. The cycle of energy cannot be created or destroyed . Proeven mathamatically by energy conservation law.
Chill Dude
GC
#10 Angus, the idiot will probably go crying to his Mommy now.
10. Angus Lindsay, Hong Kong
You continue to demonstrate that you are the lowest of the low.----------------------------------------------------------
Hey Dude,
Your personal name calling, which you and Dragonhead engage in on these threads.....
Is understandable, considering the tyrannical conditions that exist in the communist country you both live in, CHINA.
Since you rated me as" the lowest of the low"
How do you rate you communist masters the CCP?
The CCP who,
Disallows 1.3 billion citizens of China from voting their personal choice. ......... FACT
Carry out the forced abortion of young Chinese women......FACT
Grow the Chinese economy on the backs of peasant slavery, and slave pay.......FACT
Crushes all public protests, that dare criticize you CCP masters.......FACT Some of the posters here maybe interested in your response to my question above.
MY question deals with facts that include brutal oppression occurring daily in CHINA... your country. .......You live there Dude ........
"Brothers in peace vow to beat terrorist 'dark forces'"
Ha Ha Ha. This is like The Roman Catholic Church saying it's going to rid its organisation of homosexuals and child molesters/abusers.
With the shortage of good jokes, thanks to the commissars of the PC New Righteousness, we can always rely on journalists for humourous headlines!
3. Angus Lindsay, Hong Kong Brothers in peace vow to beat terrorist 'dark forces'---------------------------------------------------------
In you near fanatical scribes, you and Dragonhead always fail to include the on-going genocidial destruction of Tibet by your masters the CCP.....FACT
Why do you make this omission dude?
Look at it this way Dude , if you can , or you are allowed too.
The SNP want to take Scotland independent from the UK (England) . Fair enough and it will be done by the peoples vote as for or against.
Should England copy your masters the CCP tacticts, and crush Scotland though a program of genocide, as you are doing to the people of Tibet .
England has the money, the arms, the people to do that .
And like your Chinese masters, who first murdered most of the Tibetan Monks and their leaders . And burned down 600 monasteries, near all.
Would you adivse England to prosecute such butchery against the Scots in 2007 2008..
Dude no amount of your CCP approved and conditioned scribes, can cover the Human Pit of Slavery that your country CHINA represents.
Nor the on-going genocide CHINA continues with , to obliterate the culture of Tibet and its people.
The CCP will force plant, 1 million Chinese into Tibet which has a population of 6 million .
Then the CCP follow up with another 3 million forced plants..
Its not long before the Tibetan people are wiped out and their culture with them . Replaced with a tyrannical Chinese communist culture.
How do you respond dude
He spoke to 600 tribal leaders. Therein lies the problem! Too many chiefs, and all of them tribal in their vision for the future.
17. Infidel, Dar ul harb
Very Tough question to answer dude .
Since I have no respect for either group.
But i will answer you dude.
By a very slim margin I would choose CNINA the lesser of two great evils.
Why because, I believe there is a chance that not every Chinese will want their minds controlled indefinitely by the CCP, as they crawl up the socio-ecomonic ladder.
The others in Islam with the Sharia law are less likely to go against their inherent tribal conditioning.
But like I say I find both extemely evil.
Happy New day
#8, GC, why do you jump on posters from China as if they are not allowed to provide their opinion because of what you think of their government? Don't you think you are setting a precedent which could easily be turned back on you?
1 Angus
Couldnt agree more. I honestly thought that when Bush first took power with the enormous help from the Evangelicals and the anti abortion christian right.
17
How about a government ruled by Evangelical beliefs instead?
GalacticCannibalIt sounds as if you are against those from China speaking up their mind as in this thread and the other threads. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and Scotsman is an public forum, opens to all no matter where they are, whether from Iran, Saudi Arabia or China. Those staying in China do not necessary mean they will support all their government policies. The same goes to those staying in US or UK. Not everyone gives their full support to whatever the government do and some foreign policies. When some posters discuss on the article above, you switch to talk about where they live and the location!! Get a grip.
Typing mistake - "Scotsman is a public forum"
Pervez Musharraf is a military dictator who is implicated in assisting the US government in assisting them with 9/11 .....
Of course there is opposition to him .....
16 Infantile
You are a bigot and your sentiments are no better than the worse kind of Islamic extremist.Why do you bother to condemn people so close to your own heart and mentality?
#27-jock-Seems to me that #16 (Infidel) has read the other article where islamists are calling for "world domination" (or maybe he's seen the protest signs) from the west to the east. He probably also remembers the children of beslan purposely being killed by islamists rebels (you would probably call them "freedom fighters". I think he's also aware that it is arab muslims killing black muslims in darfur. He probably remembers reading about all the beheadings from the extremists. He's not the bigot, the radical islamists extremists are (amongst other things).
28. American, USA
Hey American Dude,
Prey tell where hidest Thou.
Hopefully not with our idiot Pres. Bush in the WH .
Surrounded my a military fortress of protection . In Sandy's "land of the Free" . dude.
I live in the world's biggest lunatic asylum..... California
Plenty of Sun and other stuff dude.
28
Yes mate I read them too but I didnt see the bit where it says every Muslim on the planet was actually involved in this plot or that the religion of Islam was preaching world domination everywhere.You can get the same kind of rhetoric from any group of religious fanatics or politcal half wits anywhere in world why is this different?And how does calling for the genocide of a religious belief put you and Infantile on the moral high ground?
30 Yep seen the same type of religious rhetoric crap in the Bible and Talmud but you dont seem to care about that hense the bigottry.
Re 3 ///
The author of post 3 wrote:
Islamist killer scum must be eradicated from the face of our earth.
Post not removed.
In post 5 (removed) I replied that it is not 'Islamist killer scum' that should be eradicated from the face of the earth but right wing partiotic republican Americans ....
Why is it OK to insult Muslims here but the post is removed when applied the other way round???
A wise old man told me "Don't pay attention to what people say . Watch what they do ." And I watch as fanatical Islamists deliberately slaughter innocents including schoolgirls and teachers .How long is the civilized world going to tolerate this behavior?Where are all the human rights orgs that scream and moan every time our country hic cups ?We have a man running for president who wants to totally isolate the USA from the world.I do not like him or some of what he stands for , but I may vote for him .Maybe Pakistan and Afgan and the rest of the world can work it all out for themselves . I am tired of our country being blamed for everything that goes wrong in the whole world .Just a simple little old grandma's opinions.Maybe the world is waking up . http://sioe.worldpress.com/
33
Where is this civilised world I keep reading about?
Where are all the human rights orgs that scream and moan every time our country hic cups ?
Hic cups? 3/4 million dead plus in Iraq alone and you refer to it as a hic cup add Afganistan and Vietnam and maybe you will compare it to a tickly cough.You are only blamed for what you yourselves create and get involved in which is pretty much nearly every dirty deed last century and this.Wake up woman and smell the napalm.
33/ 'And I watch as fanatical Islamists deliberately slaughter innocents including schoolgirls and teachers' ..... Where are you watching this .... let me know ..... I would like to watch too ....
Actually I thought it was the UK/US forces in Iraq/Afghanistan and the Israelis in Palestine who were doing the slaughter of civilians ...
Anyone seen Oliver F?
Fran:
"And I watch as fanatical Islamists deliberately slaughter innocents including schoolgirls and teachers "
Aye, unfortunately too many muslims have seen US/'uk' troops and 'un' sanctions killing and maiming their kin.
Idiots on all sides. Us in the middle.
Burn the flags, kick out the idiots, one world.
A load of religious bigotry being spouted on this thread. Surprised none of that vileness has been removed.
Gary
Aye, very good Gary. Mastered the art of copy paste as well as hitting 'report'. I bow to your technical ability.
Oliver F?
#41 I'll pass on the link, but Sammy will enjoy it.
"The pathological desire to blame the US and its allies for the world's troubles blinds those so afflicted to the even greater evil.."
Those who can only see evil in the US, who refuse to see the evil that is radical Islam, will not have the freedom to throw their adolescent tantrums in the dar al Islam, if its march on the West is successful. The Religion of Peace has little use for critics.
43 / These so-called quotes from the Holy Qu'ran are false. I do not believe the lies you tell.
Islam is a Glorious religion which you insult by your mis-representations and lies. Your attribution to Muslims of motives and desires that they do not have.
42. SAMPO
Are you also Finnking? Just wondering. Please take note - the posts #39, #40 came from a different person. Not me, OK.
#31-JOCK-"genocide of a religious belief"-Seems to be what many islamists want in regards to other religions. BTW-I dont care about their belief, its their actions in regards to their belief.
#40-gary-Also read many articles where they are killing their own kin. EX-honor killings for women, using their own children as decoys for car bombs, teaching children to sacrafice themselves in the name of allah, gang raping and killing their own daughters because of disapproval of a love interest.
#Azarias, Nevada / 4:53am 13 Aug 2007
Azarias:
"Many living sustenance manifest power after their death, generating life When humanity dies it reproduces nothing, it only affirm that death is sure"
That's what you say.
36 Infantile.
There is no global Jihad there is however yet another global crusade with Christian armies Navies and Airforces invading blockading and terrorising Islamic nations.When we see this scenario in reverse then you can tell us there is a global Islamic Jihad
43
What religious bigotry?
16
Musharraf's noble sentiments will never succeed unless the root source of extremism and terrorism is challenged - namely Islam itself.
Meanwhile we in the (relatively) free (so far) west should use what freedom we have (before the PC brigade and multiculturalists take it from us) to denounce Islam and its child-raping "prophet" at every opportunity
Jock 27 badly needs to waken up and do a little reading for himself. I suggest he starts with the Qu'ran and writes down every time it insults unbelievers, threatens them with hell or a painful doom, incites violence against them or calls for everyone to become followers of Islam.
The pathological desire to blame the US and its allies for the world's troubles blinds those so afflicted to the even greater evil and ultimate source of much of those ills. Unfortunately there's little point in me telling you what that greater evil is because then you'll just call me Islamophobic.
That religious biggotry!
Islamophobic? What the hell else can we call somebody who spouts this kind of sick rhetoric at every opertunity believe me you have earned the title.
47 American
I dont know if you have noticed yet but its the actions of your military in their countries that defines you and yours. You have already lost the moral high ground and the ability to even criticise Islamic extremist actions by your own actions. There is nothing to seperate extreme US foreign policy with that of extreme Islamic foreign policy world wide.Just as the Israellis lost the moral high ground with their treatment of the Palestinians.
46. Gary.
Yes, SAMPO is one of Finnkings several ID's, he is a liar along with thatscottishwoman. Both have been posting under other names since they said they were no longer going to read or post comments here at the Scotsman.
Both denied a couple times now of leaving posts, LOL.
#51 HJ
Before you wax all lyrical about 'the moral high ground' perhaps you'd care to let us know how you got the 'moral high ground' inspector job. Did you pass a correspondence course? Night school? Win a lottery?
Sanctimonious clown. Where do you get off? You couldn't find the 'moral high ground' on a map of the 'moral high ground.' This is the great Scotsman.com international forum. People on here disagree, but they put some effort into their posts and make them as thoughtful as they can. You don't. You need to work on that because it makes you sound weak and stupid. I suggest the you check the archives and read all of Wally's posts. He can really do it. Remember, every day in every way, try to be more like Wally!
53
As you are clearly showing you dont need qualifications or even intellect to post here and I can see the effort you have made with your post.devastating stuff and completely relevant as usual.I see you havent contributed anything to the thread as yet so why dont you nail your colours to the mast and lets see where you stand on the moral ground.
#54 HJ
You bring up the moral high ground again. My question to you was serious and germane to your thesis. Before you can discuss what and where the moral high ground is you must demonstrate that you know what it is. You haven't and there's a reason why. You've got nothing left. You had one marshmallow tipped arrow in your quiver and now that it's gone you've got nothing to say.
Before you question where I stand, let's hear from you since you brought it up. I'll tell you what I think. I think you're used to calling people names and then running home to your mommy when it comes back at you. What one thing have you ever done in your life that qualifies you as an expert on moral living? Stand and deliver. State your qualifications or else be revealed, hollow man.
#35 Sammy25, Honest Jock
Ignorant is the right word for you! Now, crawl out of your cave. You’ve been inside there for too long!! It’s your Muslim friends (shias and sunnis) fighting among themselves, who have been doing the slaughtering, suicide bombing, kidnapping and heads chopping of the innocents!! They are the ones who cause all the world’s problems. Period.
The Beslan event was also caused by your Islamist killer scums and yet, you couldn’t accept they really did the slaughtering of innocents including schoolgirls and teachers. Trying to cover up this truth? No way, man. I won’t be surprised that you spend your time surfing for only anti-American, anti-Christian and anti-Israel news in the Net to suit your personal agenda!
#45 Sammy25, Honest Joke What a fool you are to say “Islam is a Glorious religion”? No one is going to force you to “eat” the facts if you choose to treat Infidel’s posts as lies. It’s up to you. There are many people reading Scotsman news and some are capable enough to know who have been telling the truth. This forum is not for you only.
The quotes are all visibly found in the Qu’ran if you bother to read them but obviously, you won’t read mostly because you refuse to accept and believe the truth of what your beloved Islam preaches!!! The good news is, there’s no way for you to rewrite history and cover up the truth as much as you want to. Do you think other smart posters would ever believe what you have posted and your conspiracy theories (links)? Propaganda and Lies!!
50. Honest Joke, Sammy25
What the hell are you fooling? What global crusade and Christian armies???? The armies as a whole are made up of people with a variety of beliefs and others who are atheists. They don’t keep Holy books to guide and teach them how to combat and kill their enemies unlike those Muslims who kill in the name of their religion and use Islamic principles to apply in their life as a tool to achieve their goal. Modern Islam actually encourages murder of non-believers and so-called apostates. Does modern Christianity has any such directive? You’re a bigot, taking every opportunities to spout out sick anti-Christian rhetoric!
